=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [16:39] bluesabre, crazy idea that would take some effort: how could we offer the xfce defaults for xubuntu users -- in case they want them rather than the xubuntu stuff? [16:39] bluesabre, and i mean within a xubuntu session, not the xfce one [16:39] bluesabre, or is the latter simply the thing you need to do [18:26] i would say that's the essential difference between the two sessions, no? [20:17] ochosi, i guess... but what if the xubuntu defaults fall flat for somebody in some region? oh well [22:59] knome: could provide some script to do it in xubuntu-default-settings [23:01] thing about xfce is that once a property is set, it persists between session (xfce or xubuntu), so the only real way to do it would be some script that overwrites settings with a list of defaults [23:03] and I think that would be quite a bit better than pointing to a wiki page or forum someplace since the setting versions would be tied to xubuntu releases [23:03] "Perhaps we have should provide a way to use Xfce defaults?" "We have the Xfce session." "Perhaps another way?" why? [23:04] If you load the xubuntu session on first boot, you now have xubuntu defaults [23:05] I don't think the Xfce session is an intentional feature [23:05] Unless it is? [23:06] More generally, there's also the issue of "I installed Xubuntu x release and upgraded to x+1, how do I get the new defaults without creating a new user?" [23:08] Unless we're cool with wiki'ing a bunch of xfconf-query commands? [23:08] rm -r ~/.config/xfce4 [23:08] ? [23:09] Does a running xfconf not hold on to those/recreate them? [23:10] kill it, remove the config dir, restart it [23:11] Let it restart itself, it'll do that automagically. :P [23:11] probably best to do it during a relog [23:11] bluesabre: Oh right! I was going to ask, xfce4-power-manager and xfce4-volumed run as daemons when launched, any reason why xfce4-screensaver shouldn't? [23:14] Unit193: nope, I think it'd be good if it did