[00:11] <kc2bez> wxl: should xdg-email open both Firefox and Trojita?
[00:12] <wxl> uhhhhhhh
[00:12] <wxl> i've never used xdg-email
[00:13] <kc2bez> It would be the way to call the default email client  no?
[00:13] <wxl> good question
[00:14] <wxl> i'm suprirsed alternatives doesn't have something for this
[00:15] <wxl> mailx???? no can't be
[00:19] <kc2bez> That regurgitates `sudo apt install mailutils`
[00:19] <wxl> yeah that's `mail`
[00:19] <kc2bez> Same for both it seems
[00:20] <wxl> seems to have something to do with the DE perhaps
[00:20] <wxl> or maybe need to set it through xdg-mime
[00:22] <wxl> please consult the sh manual
[00:24] <wxl> oh jeez we have thunderbird set
[00:24] <wxl> if xdg-mime is not set, but we're using Lubuntu, it uses sylpheed aigh
[00:26] <wxl> you found it broken go fix it XD
[00:26] <wxl> oh wait i was looking at an old one
[00:26] <wxl> LXQt is now in there
[00:27] <wxl> LXDE|Lubuntu)
[00:27] <wxl>   DE=lxde;
[00:27] <wxl> we should probably fix that
[00:28] <kc2bez> XD
[00:28] <kc2bez> Ack
[00:28] <kc2bez> :)
[00:28] <wxl> lxqt is supposed to use open_generic
[00:29] <wxl> which checks xdg-mime (it's set to thunderbird for us)
[00:30] <kc2bez> It isn't my fault :) I was testing these shortcuts. I was thinking instead of calling specific programs we should call the default ones. 
[00:30] <wxl> it doesn't really check if thunderbird is installed............
[00:31] <kc2bez> Worms. Can open. 
[00:31] <wxl> and then it seems to try to run it thruogh xdg-open to see if it gets the right thing? weird. and then uses the browser.
[00:32] <wxl> it seems that it will try to do both
[00:32] <wxl> so the answer to your question: yes, it should
[00:32] <wxl> why it calls trojita, though, i find shocking
[00:42] <wxl> fix: add trojita as x-scheme-handler/mailto in mimeapps.list
[00:42] <wxl> ours is in $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS as expected
[00:42] <wxl> if you want to see it in person: `xdg-mime default trojita.desktop x-scheme-handler/mailto`
[00:42] <wxl> that was an oversight
[00:42] <wxl> OOOPS
[00:42] <kc2bez> You beat me by moments
[00:42] <wxl> ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm might want to see if anything obvious is missing from that file
[00:43] <wxl> and now i'm giong home XD
[00:43] <kc2bez> I will add it to my TODO
[00:43] <kc2bez> Safe travels. 
[00:44] <kc2bez> Thanks for looking into it with me
[00:44] <wxl> np :)
[00:45] <wxl> thank you btw :)
[00:46] <kc2bez> Happy to help. 
[00:46] <kc2bez> I need to hit the hay earlier tonight so I look further tomorrow. 
[00:47] <kc2bez> *I'll
[00:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1402
[03:29] <lubot> <aptghetto> @The_LoudSpeaker [He might need to manually add nvram entries using uefi shell. My laptop has same …], I know that Acer has a special implementation of Secure Boot, but they don‘t give Input/Output Errors. … You have to manually add Grub to the trusted files. There is no need to change the boot loader.
[03:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1404
[03:31] <lubot> <aptghetto> @wxl [<wxl> @aptghetto @The_LoudSpeaker that fellow replied with the parted/efibootmgr …], He solved the issue with a firmware update.
[03:31] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @aptghetto [He solved the issue with a firmware update.], Noice.
[03:33] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> fix: add trojita as x-scheme-handler/mailto in mimeapps.list], I will dig it up. Didn't knew about mailto when I fixed T3.
[03:37] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @aptghetto [I know that Acer has a special implementation of Secure Boot, but they don‘t giv …], Yup! They don't give any errors but my system already trusts grub, only thing being, the nvram entry created by efibootmgr doesn't stay after shutdown, it becomes "unknown" as seen from next boot using Refind. So I add it manua
[03:37] <lubot> lly using UEFI shell. … Lite tho. That guys problem is sorted so it's fine.
[03:46] <wxl[m]> Where did you see the problem is solved?
[03:47] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Where did you see the problem is solved?], @aptghetto  said na ki he solved it with a firmware update.
[03:48] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> "he" implies that guy not aptghetto.
[03:57] <wxl[m]> No i get that but I just don't see anything on the forum post about it being solved
[04:02] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> No i get that but I just don't see anything on the forum post about it …], +1
[04:03] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> ^^ @aptghetto
[04:03] <lubot> <aptghetto> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Where did you see the problem is solved?], It is written in the post (edited) after you asked for parted and efibootmgr
[04:04] <lubot> <aptghetto> (Photo, 904x1280) https://i.imgur.com/OncIAP3.jpg
[04:05] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Ack.
[04:07] <wxl[m]> Closed thanks 😊
[04:07] <lubot> <tsimonq2> ack
[04:19] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 any luck finding insta credentials?
[04:26] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Not quite yet
[05:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6f429c7e057a: Add OK button on update via discover] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6f429c7e057a
[05:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2f220683635a: Add update auth screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2f220683635a
[06:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc5c0d341966e: Add calendar widget to panel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc5c0d341966e
[06:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL470ba8a93845: Add start of change volume settings] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL470ba8a93845
[06:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0911198e2b2e: Add change audio device] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0911198e2b2e
[14:11] <lubot> <HMollerCl> has there been a breeeze icon update? some icons in the menu changed
[14:20] <lubot> <HMollerCl> anyone remembers hwo to solve the delete key doesn't send to trash in pcmanfm-qt issue?
[14:21] <lubot> <RikMills> @HMollerCl [has there been a breeeze icon update? some icons in the menu changed], No
[14:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> bah, sorry I forgot we use papirus
[14:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> and yes, there was an update
[14:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> in papirus
[14:33] <lubot> <HMollerCl> applications-multimedia and applications-graphics
[18:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL95cd62e5c3d9: Add mute on middle click] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL95cd62e5c3d9
[20:38] <lubot> . . was added by: . .
[20:47] <lubot> <. .> @. . [<reply to image>], Hello, a question for professionals. Can I install Lubuntu on a file system other than Ext2? … I want to install on F2FS, for the sake of the least load on the HDD, and to avoid unnecessary journaling. What should I do - try to compile my own kernel?
[20:53] <wxl> wrong channel
[20:53] <wxl> !support
[20:53] <ubot93> For Lubuntu support, please join the #lubuntu channel on IRC or https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support for Telegram.
[21:11] <kc2bez> Meeting?
[21:11] <lubot> <teward001> thought meetings were moved to a different day
[21:12] <kc2bez> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:12] <wxl> no
[21:12] <wxl> let's get it going
[21:12] <wxl> we talked about that but it never got there
[21:12] <wxl> go make a doodle poll
[21:13] <wxl> i'll leave the need to charge to change the meeting time to the people that need to change it
[21:13] <wxl> meanwhile
[21:13] <wxl> !standup
[21:14]  * wxl kicks the bot
[21:14] <kc2bez> :(
[21:14] <lubot> <UniversalSuperBox> standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez wxl[m] guiverc it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Afterwards, in order of announcement, post your items and be sure to mention when you're done.
[21:14] <lubot> <teward001> *kicks wxl*
[21:14] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker you too
[21:15] <kc2bez> o/
[21:15] <lubot> <teward001> *spits at wxl for no reason*
[21:15] <lubot> <teward001> mind if I go first since i have a date within the next 30 minutes?
[21:15] <lynorian> \o just got back from store sorry no paste ready
[21:15] <wxl> sure teward
[21:16] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I'm only a couple of minutes here
[21:16] <lubot> <teward001> Infra: … * Ongoing work on email integration … * Continuing rollout of internal cert authority and resolving headaches related to DNS resolution. … * Still working on figuring out Docker backups, but that's its own chaos.
[21:16] <lubot> <teward001> </done>
[21:17] <wxl> thx @teward001 loving my solved plugin
[21:17] <wxl> @HMollerCl go
[21:17] <lubot> <HMollerCl> ok
[21:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I created new logo and new opd template and uploaded to current in oldart repo
[21:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> the ubuconla webpage now has our new logo
[21:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> EOF
[21:19] <wxl> ok who wants next? Dan?
[21:19] <kc2bez> Sure thing.
[21:19] <kc2bez> Wallpaper contest -
[21:19] <kc2bez> Posted on discourse https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-wallpaper-contest-for-eoan-ermine/164
[21:19] <kc2bez> Blogged - tooted - tweeted - announced on Telegram
[21:19] <kc2bez> calamares-settings-ubuntu
[21:19] <kc2bez> Submitted a change so Calamares starts in full-screen mode
[21:19] <kc2bez> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Resolved] Make Calamares work well with smaller screens: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25
[21:19] <kc2bez> Testing
[21:19] <kc2bez> Shortcuts and globalkeys
[21:20] <kc2bez> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59
[21:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix keyboard shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59
[21:20] <kc2bez> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/pull/123
[21:20] <ubot93> Pull 123 in lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys "daemon: Use XDG hierarchy if no config file given on command line" [Open]
[21:20] <kc2bez> Grub theme
[21:20] <kc2bez> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30
[21:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Theme GRUB: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30
[21:20] <kc2bez> That is all I have at this time.
[21:20] <lubot> <teward001> oh i have one thing to add from this past week
[21:20] <wxl> great
[21:20] <wxl> thanks as always dan
[21:20] <wxl> go @teward 
[21:21] <lubot> <teward001> Cala: CVEs opened on Cala issues, upstream released fixes, no ETA on Lubuntu inclusion available.
[21:21] <wxl> riiiight
[21:21] <lubot> <teward001> *glares at @tsimonq2, then disappears into the shadows*
[21:21] <wxl> @lynorian: me or you?
[21:21] <lynorian> wxl still working on it
[21:21] <wxl> ok me then
[21:21] <wxl> big spew so i might chunk this out
[21:22] <wxl>  * BUG TRIAGE 
[21:22] <wxl>    * Marked a bug about Calamares and mmcblk devices as invalid https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1835679
[21:22] <wxl>    * Commented on the bug about nm-tray https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nm-tray/+bug/1782579/comments/4
[21:22] <wxl>  * TASKS
[21:22] <wxl>    * Helped out Raman with keyboard shortcuts https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59
[21:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix keyboard shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59
[21:22] <wxl>    * Commented on GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR bug https://phab.lubuntu.me/T85
[21:22] <wxl>    * Commented on the marketing task https://phab.lubuntu.me/T88
[21:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Set GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR correctly: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T85
[21:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Wishlist, Open] help create marketing team and basic sop: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T88
[21:22] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1835679 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Calamares don't offer a partitioning scheme on mmcblk devices" [Undecided, Invalid]
[21:22] <wxl>    * Made a task to explore weird things in our packageset https://phab.lubuntu.me/T89
[21:22] <wxl>    * Made a comment on the nm-tray editor fix to add network-manager-gnome as a recommend to the package https://phab.lubuntu.me/rNMTRAYPACKAGING1bc4f5406954093d6967a9482aea74b4338981ab#8902
[21:22] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1782579 in nm-tray (Ubuntu) "nm-tray is missing a native Qt UI for editing connections" [Medium, Triaged]
[21:22] <wxl>  * COMMITS
[21:22] <wxl>    * Reviewed Raman's shortcut patch for lxqt-globalkeys https://phab.lubuntu.me/D18
[21:22] <wxl>    * Reviewed Raman's change to the Openbox keybindings https://phab.lubuntu.me/D17
[21:22] <wxl>    * Sponsored final change to make nm-connection-editor the default in nm-tray https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nm-tray/0.4.1-0ubuntu2
[21:22] <wxl>    * Sponsored fix for Calamares on small screens https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/1:19.10.3
[21:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Revision] Edited shortcuts so that they don't interfere with openbox key bindings.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D18
[21:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Accepted] Edited Shortcuts.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D17
[21:22] <wxl>  * INFRASTRUCTURE
[21:22] <wxl>    * Went through support issues on Discourse and applied the "Solved" plugin where applicable.
[21:22] <wxl>    * Made an Offtopic category on Discourse
[21:22] <wxl>    * Updated the packaging guide to make clear how to do tagging https://phab.lubuntu.me/phriction/diff/14/?l=3&r=4
[21:22] <wxl>    * Updated the packaging tutorial with tagging info, too https://phab.lubuntu.me/phriction/diff/12/?l=15&r=16
[21:22] <wxl>  * UPSTREAM
[21:22] <wxl>    * Commented on old bug to respect XDG in lxqt-globalkeys https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/pull/60#issuecomment-508867374
[21:22] <wxl>    * Tested fix for XDG respect in lxqt-globalkeys https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/pull/123#issuecomment-509898253
[21:22] <wxl>  * TODO
[21:22] <wxl>    * Write article on LXQt v LXDE.
[21:22] <wxl>    * Write an upstream bug re: window sizes 
[21:22] <ubot93> Pull 60 in lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys "WIP: move shortcuts config fom /etc/xdg/lxqt to /usr/share/lxqt" [Open]
[21:22] <wxl>    * Write an upstream bug re: lxqt-globalkeys' conf magic numbers.
[21:22] <wxl>    * Write an upstream bug re: weirdness with lxqt-globalkeys' conf writing and reading.
[21:22] <wxl>    * Write an upstream bug re: restart handling in lxqt-globalkeys.
[21:22] <ubot93> Pull 123 in lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys "daemon: Use XDG hierarchy if no config file given on command line" [Open]
[21:23] <wxl>    * Make a SRU for usb-creator-kde stretching back to xenial through disco: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51
[21:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix usb-creator-kde: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51
[21:23] <wxl>    * Triage bugs that were likely missed due to missing descriptions.
[21:23] <wxl>    * Start on upstream pcmanfm-qt help docs.
[21:23] <wxl>    * Look into brightness/backlight stuff that Chris tested: bug 1829641 (and otherwise catch up on triage— help appreciated/let's chat)
[21:23] <ubot93> Error: I don't have a bugtracker .
[21:25] <kc2bez> Did you break it wxl? ^
[21:25] <wxl> hah no
[21:25] <kc2bez> :)
[21:25] <wxl> Unit193 says it's working fine, but i think it's broke
[21:25] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker you too], \0
[21:25] <wxl> go raman
[21:25] <kc2bez> Awesome as always wxl
[21:26]  * guiverc3 thinks wxl just overloaded bot
[21:27] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Hii:
[21:27] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> So here it goes:
[21:27] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> !. Finished grub theme.
[21:27] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> 2. working on shortcut keys.
[21:27] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> D17 ready to land
[21:28] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> Hey guys. I cloned Lugito on my github and documented goals on what needs to be done to add more logging. Id like to book some time with Simon to help get it done. That's it for me
[21:28] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> waiting for lxqt-globalkeys. whether xdg or not xdg. will proceed with D18 according to that.
[21:29] <wxl[m]> I waiting for everything to get sorted before pushing any piece of the shortcut change. That means we need the xdg support in globalkeys
[21:29] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> To Do: … add mailto: trojita to mimeapps.list … lookup on the long pending xscreensavertask
[21:30] <wxl[m]> Yay on screensaver!
[21:30] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> volunteered to look after instagram handle. waiting for credentials from simon
[21:30] <wxl[m]> Doing great Raman
[21:30] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> that's it.
[21:30] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Doing great Raman], Thanks!
[21:30] <lynorian> wxl[m]: wasn't that one of the earlierst problems that put off the switch with how we had configuration file directories at first then again this is memory from years ago so I could be wrong
[21:31] <lynorian> My turn?
[21:31] <wxl[m]> Thanks Samuel and don't forget to email Simon if you want his attention.
[21:31] <wxl[m]> Yes lyn on both counts!
[21:32] <lynorian> context menu for tabs now has screenshots
[21:32] <lynorian> other ways that cut/copy/paste to firefox
[21:32] <lynorian> changing session(tab) names in qterminal
[21:32] <lynorian> add links to appendix B
[21:32] <lynorian> make unmounting swap way more obvious thanks jyoti and wxl
[21:32] <lynorian> other ways to reload page
[21:32] <lynorian> screenshots for saving files in libreoffice
[21:32] <lynorian> toggle menuebar /hid toolbar in trojita
[21:32] <lynorian> updated a featherpad screenshots and added a screenshot for the sidebar 
[21:32] <lynorian> Go to firslt last tab in featherpad
[21:32] <lynorian> note on scrolling in qterminal
[21:32] <lynorian> that is all from me for this week
[21:34] <kc2bez> That is fantastic lynorian
[21:35] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Master of Manual for a reason. :)
[21:35] <wxl> awesome lyn
[21:35] <wxl> s/Master/Mistress/ :)
[21:37] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> ack.
[21:38] <wxl> anyone/anything else?
[21:38] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 remaining I guess?
[21:39] <wxl> oh he never shows up
[21:40] <wxl> good job everyone
[21:40] <wxl> i really feel like we're making some serious progress recently
[21:41] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> you too. :)
[21:41] <wxl> i really appreciate everyone's efforts
[21:42] <kc2bez> Thanks to you as well wxl
[21:45] <kc2bez> guiverc was instrumental in getting the wallpaper contest off the ground too even though he didn't chime in here ^ :)
[21:46] <wxl> guiverc is always helping
[21:46] <kc2bez> Indeed.
[21:46] <guiverc> (and never has anything much to say)
[21:49] <wxl> @lynorian: an idea for manual: add a bit on how to add a shortcut for an application on the desktop
[21:53] <wxl> apparently a synonym for "editing" is "edition" https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/disco/en/man1/desktop-file-edit.1.html
[21:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd37774e25872: Add other way to fully quit noblenote] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd37774e25872
[22:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL469691c1377f: Add show on middle click checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL469691c1377f
[23:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbe52fb5e3231: Add lxqt-panel over 100% checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbe52fb5e3231
[23:39] <lubot> <N0um3n0> is https://translate.lubuntu.me working???
[23:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL61f7aeb23839: Add lxqt-panel always notify] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL61f7aeb23839
[23:40] <lubot> <lynorian> @N0um3n0 I don't think so
[23:40] <lubot> <N0um3n0> @lynorian [@N0um3n0 I don't think so], ok, thanks ... ;)
[23:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7389200ac853: Add lxqt-panel checkbox for always notify volume changes] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7389200ac853