| Hunhow | That took me to the site and then tossed me a few redirects saying my “iPhone” has been compromised. Nice. Except it’s an iPod touch. | 00:04 |
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| wxl | which did? | 00:04 |
| Hunhow | The one you sent. I clicked it again and I could read it. Idk why you wouldn’t just use Raspbian. It’s amazing. Unless you have a larger card or have specific use cases | 00:05 |
| wxl | the "one" | 00:06 |
| wxl | i sent two links since you've been around | 00:06 |
| Hunhow | Oh, the last one you sent sorry | 00:06 |
| wxl | and that other one is a legitimate link for sure. you might have some issue with your device, for real. | 00:06 |
| wxl | or you typed it wrong or something | 00:06 |
| n-iCe | I like raspbian | 00:07 |
| wxl | or a firewall/antivirus that's doing some goofy man in the middle stuff | 00:07 |
| n-iCe | a lot | 00:07 |
| Hunhow | I just had to tap it. On the Igloo client | 00:29 |
| Hunhow | https://arxius.io/i/ff6a05e2 | 00:58 |
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| Norbi | Hey, I need a little bit of help with installing Lubuntu. Can anyone help me please? | 11:38 |
| diogenes_ | !ask | Norbi | 11:39 |
| ubottu | Norbi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 11:39 |
| Norbi | !patience | 11:40 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ | 11:40 |
| Norbi | Hey, I want to uninstall Windows 10 and install Lubuntu instead, but I don't know how to remove Windows 10 from the partitions and give all the memory to Lubuntu. I don't mind if all my data is deleted. | 11:43 |
| diogenes_ | Norbi, when you run lubuntu installer, choose “Erase disk and install”. | 11:45 |
| diogenes_ | more details you can find here: https://docs.lubuntu.net/lubuntu_installation | 11:46 |
| Norbi | I only have "Install Alongside", "Replace a Partition" and "Manual Partitioning". | 11:48 |
| Norbi | Should I just format the partition that Windows 10 is on? | 11:48 |
| diogenes_ | ok then go with manual partitioning and then i'm gonna tell you what to do next. | 11:49 |
| Norbi | Alright, I did it. What do I do next? | 11:50 |
| diogenes_ | new partition table | 11:51 |
| diogenes_ | GUID partition table | 11:52 |
| diogenes_ | tell me when done | 11:52 |
| Norbi | It's done. | 11:52 |
| diogenes_ | click Create | 11:53 |
| Norbi | I did it. | 11:53 |
| diogenes_ | size: 40960 | 11:54 |
| diogenes_ | file system: ext4 | 11:54 |
| diogenes_ | mount point: / | 11:54 |
| diogenes_ | click ok | 11:54 |
| Norbi | Alrighty, I did it. | 11:54 |
| diogenes_ | now click create again | 11:55 |
| diogenes_ | and tell me what number you see on Size: xxxxx | 11:55 |
| Norbi | 197511 MB | 11:55 |
| diogenes_ | ok then set Size: 190000 | 11:56 |
| diogenes_ | file system: ext4 mount point: /home | 11:56 |
| diogenes_ | ok | 11:56 |
| Norbi | I did it. | 11:57 |
| diogenes_ | click create | 11:57 |
| diogenes_ | Size: 7000 file system: swap | 11:57 |
| Norbi | I have "linuxswap". Is that the same thing? | 11:58 |
| diogenes_ | yes | 11:58 |
| Norbi | Alright then. It's done. | 11:58 |
| diogenes_ | click ok | 11:59 |
| diogenes_ | create | 11:59 |
| diogenes_ | Size: all remaining | 11:59 |
| diogenes_ | file system: fat32 mount point: /boot/efi | 11:59 |
| Norbi | I did it. | 12:00 |
| diogenes_ | ok | 12:00 |
| diogenes_ | and go ahead with the installation | 12:00 |
| diogenes_ | you are done at this point | 12:00 |
| Norbi | Alright. Thanks a lot! | 12:00 |
| diogenes_ | no problem, come with a feedback after the installation is done and you rebooted into the system. | 12:01 |
| Norbi | It gives me an error. | 12:07 |
| Norbi | "The installer failed to create a partition table on ATA ST3250318AS.========================================================================================== Create a new partition table (type: gpt) on ‘/dev/sda’ ========================================================================================== ============================================ | 12:07 |
| Norbi | ============================================== Job: Create new partition table on device ‘/dev/sda’ ==========================================================================================" | 12:07 |
| diogenes_ | Norbi, well i assumed if it was windows 10 then it must have been an UEFI system, go to bios and see if it's in UEFI or it's legacy bios mode. | 12:08 |
| Norbi | It's in legacy. | 12:09 |
| diogenes_ | oh damn ok then create a new partition table | 12:09 |
| diogenes_ | this time pick: Master Boot Record | 12:10 |
| Norbi | Alright done. | 12:10 |
| diogenes_ | create 1 partition: Size: 40960 file system: ext4 mount point: / | 12:10 |
| diogenes_ | create second: Size: 190000 file system: ext4 mount point: /home | 12:11 |
| Norbi | Done | 12:11 |
| diogenes_ | create 3rd: Size: all remaining system: linuxswa | 12:12 |
| diogenes_ | linuxswap* | 12:12 |
| diogenes_ | and this time you should be fine. | 12:12 |
| Norbi | Yay here's another error: | 12:14 |
| diogenes_ | which is | 12:14 |
| Norbi | It didn't copy hold on. | 12:14 |
| Norbi | The installer failed to create a partition table on ATA ST3250318AS.========================================================================================== Create a new partition table (type: msdos) on ‘/dev/sda’ ========================================================================================== =========================================== | 12:15 |
| Norbi | =============================================== Job: Create new partition table on device ‘/dev/sda’ ========================================================================================== | 12:15 |
| diogenes_ | hmmm | 12:16 |
| Norbi | Is it maybe because I used UNetbootin and the Lubuntu ISO file? | 12:17 |
| diogenes_ | Norbi, ok try to write the iso using etcher because unetbootin doesn't really work. | 12:18 |
| diogenes_ | i've never had any success with it. | 12:18 |
| diogenes_ | then restart the installation | 12:18 |
| Norbi | Alright | 12:18 |
| don10 | hello, having trouble with lubuntu dropping ethernet connection randomly | 15:34 |
| tacocat_ | Hello everyone, I'm trying to creating a Lubuntu portable installation without the use of casper_rw. Is this the right channel to ask for help? | 18:02 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @tacocat_ [<tacocat_> Hello everyone, I'm trying to creating a Lubuntu portable installatio …], Yup! This is the right channel to ask. Explain the problem you are facing. Someone will definitely help you. | 18:38 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @don10 [<don10> hello, having trouble with lubuntu dropping ethernet connection randomly], @HMollerCl ? | 18:39 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [@HMollerCl ?], sorry, I'm at work with no much time. Things that are not DE specific could be more quickly be solved looking in ubuntu which has more community tthat lubuntu. | 19:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> That doesn't mean we can't help, it's only that those are problems that people from other *buntu flavos might hace faced. | 19:17 |
| tomreyn | tacocat had left before the first response was given here, but had also cross posted to #ubuntu | 19:53 |
| tomreyn | and got replies there | 19:53 |
| qwertyss | salut | 20:13 |
| qwertyss | cineva on? | 20:13 |
| qwertyss | hello somebody on? | 20:13 |
| wxl | qwertyss: what do you need? | 20:15 |
| qwertyss | where is software center ? | 20:17 |
| qwertyss | in my pc | 20:17 |
| qwertyss | I have now installed lubuntu and do not know how to install the programs I need | 20:18 |
| wxl | what version | 20:18 |
| qwertyss | last | 20:18 |
| wxl | that doesn't help | 20:19 |
| qwertyss | Lubuntu 19.04 | 20:22 |
| qwertyss | https://lubuntu.net/lubuntu-19-04-disco-dingo-released/ | 20:24 |
| qwertyss | #define DISKNAME Lubuntu 19.04 "Disco Dingo" - Release amd64 | 20:24 |
| qwertyss | where do I install the programs I need? | 20:25 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Discover is the software center. | 20:27 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> It can be found in system tools. | 20:28 |
| qwertyss | I have not used lubuntu I hope to succeed, thanks | 20:28 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Ask if you have any other questions. | 20:29 |
| qwertyss | tnx | 20:30 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> We also have a section in our manual on discover. https://manual.lubuntu.me/4/4.1/discover.html | 20:30 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Since you are new there may be other sections of the manual that are helpful. | 20:31 |
| qwertyss | k | 20:35 |
| qwertyss | I found, thank you for your help | 20:49 |
| qwertyss | so far i have used linux endless, i hope i can handle lubuntu | 20:50 |
| lubot | . . was added by: . . | 20:54 |
| lubot | <. .> Hello, a question for professionals. Can I install Lubuntu on a file system other than Ext2? I want to install on F2FS, for the sake of the least load on the HDD, and to avoid unnecessary journaling. What should I do - try to compile my own kernel? | 20:54 |
| wxl | certainly other file systems are supported | 20:55 |
| wxl | never tested on f2fs, though | 20:55 |
| wxl | supposedly it was merged into the 3.8 kernel | 20:57 |
| tomreyn | define "unnecessary journaling" | 20:57 |
| wxl | grub can't boot it though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1817310 | 21:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1817310 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Backport F2FS support" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:00 |
| wxl | however i can install f2fs-tools and run the Calamares installer and it gives me f2fs as an option | 21:00 |
| lubot | <. .> I will try in simple words. Maybe "unnecessary journaling" is in ext3,4, but nonetheless when f2fs writes the same files, file system has less structures. … (Sorry for such uneducated explanation. I mean it is like NTFS vs Fat32 of ExFat) | 21:02 |
| wxl | tomreyn: it might be good to know that it stands for "flash friendly file system" | 21:05 |
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| tomreyn | wxl: it's a HDD though | 21:06 |
| wxl | tomreyn: well lots of folks still refer to solid state drives as such, just like people refer to music recordings as "albums" | 21:07 |
| tomreyn | wxl: i'm not really getting your point, but i bet this is my fault, it's late here and i'm very tired, sorry. | 21:09 |
| wxl | tomreyn: you're good :) | 21:10 |
| tomreyn | ;-) | 21:10 |
| wxl | to the OP with the silly nick, the short answer is it will work, but you won't get grub to recognize it. you'd have to patch it. <6s$NeB)6De6jgeD | 21:11 |
| wxl | https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grub.git/commit/?id=71f9e4ac44142af52c3fc1860436cf9e432bf764 | 21:11 |
| lubot | <. .> (Photo, 177x294) https://i.imgur.com/UcNcFg5.jpg what is the opinion of professionals, would it be appropriate to add F2FS option here? | 21:12 |
| lubot | <teward001> no, only because it's less robust and vulnerable to 'sudden power off corruption' than ext4 | 21:13 |
| lubot | <teward001> my opinion | 21:13 |
| lubot | <. .> what if user wants to install on SSD? | 21:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> MODERN SSDs won't see much 'speed' difference between ext4 and f2fs afaict | 21:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> and ext4 continues to be more stable as a filesystem spec | 21:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> f2fs that i've seen HAS had "huge patches" that are invasive and can cause issues | 21:15 |
| lubot | <. .> so for flash cards your recommendation is Ext2? | 21:16 |
| lubot | <teward001> flash cards aren't SSDs. | 21:17 |
| lubot | <teward001> apples vs. oranges there bub. | 21:17 |
| lubot | <teward001> also phoronix has written up a nice comparison this past January of Linux 5.0 filesystem benchmarking | 21:19 |
| lubot | <teward001> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-50-filesystems&num=1 | 21:19 |
| lubot | <. .> ok, memory cells in both of them wear out with time. Some users want to minimize it. | 21:19 |
| lubot | <teward001> F2FS is 'okay' but I wouldn't want to use it as the base system installer | 21:20 |
| lubot | <teward001> because it sacrifices 'stability' for 'speed' | 21:20 |
| lubot | <teward001> and under the hood it requires more than just the kernel to support the device | 21:20 |
| lubot | <teward001> support the format* | 21:20 |
| lubot | <teward001> ALSO | 21:23 |
| lubot | <teward001> to work in the GUI installers it'd need to be supported globally IMO | 21:23 |
| lubot | <teward001> by all the GUI utilities including gparted | 21:23 |
| lubot | <teward001> which it is not | 21:23 |
| lubot | <teward001> and there hasn't been any major demand to have it default-supported so it's not been given that kind of scrutiny or attention by the development teams | 21:24 |
| lubot | <teward001> and needs Security Team review for any kind of Main Inclusion which would be necessary for more support for it to be available overall | 21:24 |
| lubot | <teward001> so i will let you decide 'which is better' but NO linuxes currently offer it as a default-on-install file system for formatting that I can tell | 21:25 |
| lubot | <teward001> ... well, except for Android internals. | 21:25 |
| lubot | <teward001> but that's a different issue | 21:25 |
| lubot | <. .> ok, undersood, little demand for it in the realm of Linux. The question is settled. | 21:27 |
| lubot | <teward001> at least *currently* there's not major demand for it | 21:28 |
| lubot | <teward001> not that support couldn't be added, but 😛 | 21:28 |
| qwertyss | a | 21:51 |
| wxl | b | 21:51 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> c | 21:52 |
| lubot | <N0um3n0> d? | 21:52 |
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