[00:04] <Hunhow> That took me to the site and then tossed me a few redirects saying my “iPhone” has been compromised. Nice. Except it’s an iPod touch.
[00:04] <wxl> which did?
[00:05] <Hunhow> The one you sent. I clicked it again and I could read it. Idk why you wouldn’t just use Raspbian. It’s amazing. Unless you have a larger card or have specific use cases
[00:06] <wxl> the "one"
[00:06] <wxl> i sent two links since you've been around
[00:06] <Hunhow> Oh, the last one you sent sorry
[00:06] <wxl> and that other one is a legitimate link for sure. you might have some issue with your device, for real.
[00:06] <wxl> or you typed it wrong or something
[00:07] <n-iCe> I like raspbian
[00:07] <wxl> or a firewall/antivirus that's doing some goofy man in the middle stuff
[00:07] <n-iCe> a lot
[00:29] <Hunhow> I just had to tap it. On the Igloo client
[00:58] <Hunhow> https://arxius.io/i/ff6a05e2
[11:38] <Norbi> Hey, I need a little bit of help with installing Lubuntu. Can anyone help me please?
[11:39] <diogenes_> !ask | Norbi
[11:40] <Norbi> !patience
[11:43] <Norbi> Hey, I want to uninstall Windows 10 and install Lubuntu instead, but I don't know how to remove Windows 10 from the partitions and give all the memory to Lubuntu. I don't mind if all my data is deleted.
[11:45] <diogenes_> Norbi, when you run lubuntu installer, choose “Erase disk and install”.
[11:46] <diogenes_> more details you can find here: https://docs.lubuntu.net/lubuntu_installation
[11:48] <Norbi> I only have "Install Alongside", "Replace a Partition" and "Manual Partitioning".
[11:48] <Norbi> Should I just format the partition that Windows 10 is on?
[11:49] <diogenes_> ok then go with manual partitioning and then i'm gonna tell you what to do next.
[11:50] <Norbi> Alright, I did it. What do I do next?
[11:51] <diogenes_> new partition table
[11:52] <diogenes_> GUID partition table
[11:52] <diogenes_> tell me when done
[11:52] <Norbi> It's done.
[11:53] <diogenes_> click Create
[11:53] <Norbi> I did it.
[11:54] <diogenes_> size: 40960
[11:54] <diogenes_> file system: ext4
[11:54] <diogenes_> mount point: /
[11:54] <diogenes_> click ok
[11:54] <Norbi> Alrighty, I did it.
[11:55] <diogenes_> now click create again
[11:55] <diogenes_> and tell me what number you see on Size: xxxxx
[11:55] <Norbi> 197511 MB
[11:56] <diogenes_> ok then set Size: 190000
[11:56] <diogenes_> file system: ext4 mount point: /home
[11:56] <diogenes_> ok
[11:57] <Norbi> I did it.
[11:57] <diogenes_> click create
[11:57] <diogenes_> Size: 7000 file system: swap
[11:58] <Norbi> I have "linuxswap". Is that the same thing?
[11:58] <diogenes_> yes
[11:58] <Norbi> Alright then. It's done.
[11:59] <diogenes_> click ok
[11:59] <diogenes_> create
[11:59] <diogenes_> Size: all remaining
[11:59] <diogenes_> file system: fat32 mount point: /boot/efi
[12:00] <Norbi> I did it.
[12:00] <diogenes_> ok
[12:00] <diogenes_> and go ahead with the installation
[12:00] <diogenes_> you are done at this point
[12:00] <Norbi> Alright. Thanks a lot!
[12:01] <diogenes_> no problem, come with a feedback after the installation is done and you rebooted into the system.
[12:07] <Norbi> It gives me an error.
[12:07] <Norbi> "The installer failed to create a partition table on ATA ST3250318AS.[12:07] <Norbi> [12:08] <diogenes_> Norbi, well i assumed if it was windows 10 then it must have been an UEFI system, go to bios and see if it's in UEFI or it's legacy bios mode.
[12:09] <Norbi> It's in legacy.
[12:09] <diogenes_> oh damn ok then create a new partition table
[12:10] <diogenes_> this time pick: Master Boot Record
[12:10] <Norbi> Alright done.
[12:10] <diogenes_> create 1 partition: Size: 40960 file system: ext4 mount point: /
[12:11] <diogenes_> create second: Size: 190000 file system: ext4 mount point: /home
[12:11] <Norbi> Done
[12:12] <diogenes_> create 3rd: Size: all remaining system: linuxswa
[12:12] <diogenes_> linuxswap*
[12:12] <diogenes_> and this time you should be fine.
[12:14] <Norbi> Yay here's another error:
[12:14] <diogenes_> which is
[12:14] <Norbi> It didn't copy hold on.
[12:15] <Norbi> The installer failed to create a partition table on ATA ST3250318AS.[12:15] <Norbi> [12:16] <diogenes_> hmmm
[12:17] <Norbi> Is it maybe because I used UNetbootin and the Lubuntu ISO file?
[12:18] <diogenes_> Norbi, ok try to write the iso using etcher because unetbootin doesn't really work.
[12:18] <diogenes_> i've never had any success with it.
[12:18] <diogenes_> then restart the installation
[12:18] <Norbi> Alright
[15:34] <don10> hello, having trouble with lubuntu dropping ethernet connection randomly
[18:02] <tacocat_> Hello everyone, I'm trying to creating a Lubuntu portable installation without the use of casper_rw. Is this the right channel to ask for help?
 @tacocat_ [<tacocat_> Hello everyone, I'm trying to creating a Lubuntu portable installatio …], Yup! This is the right channel to ask. Explain the problem you are facing. Someone will definitely help you.
 @don10 [<don10> hello, having trouble with lubuntu dropping ethernet connection randomly], @HMollerCl ?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [@HMollerCl ?], sorry, I'm at work with no much time. Things that are not DE specific could be more quickly be solved looking in ubuntu which has more community tthat lubuntu.
 That doesn't mean we can't help, it's only that those are problems that people from other *buntu flavos might hace faced.
[19:53] <tomreyn> tacocat had left before the first response was given here, but had also cross posted to #ubuntu
[19:53] <tomreyn> and got replies there
[20:13] <qwertyss> salut
[20:13] <qwertyss> cineva on?
[20:13] <qwertyss> hello somebody on?
[20:15] <wxl> qwertyss: what do you need?
[20:17] <qwertyss> where is software center ?
[20:17] <qwertyss> in my pc
[20:18] <qwertyss> I have now installed lubuntu and do not know how to install the programs I need
[20:18] <wxl> what version
[20:18] <qwertyss> last
[20:19] <wxl> that doesn't help
[20:22] <qwertyss>  Lubuntu 19.04
[20:24] <qwertyss> https://lubuntu.net/lubuntu-19-04-disco-dingo-released/
[20:24] <qwertyss> #define DISKNAME  Lubuntu 19.04 "Disco Dingo" - Release amd64
[20:25] <qwertyss> where do I install the programs I need?
 Discover is the software center.
 It can be found in system tools.
[20:28] <qwertyss> I have not used lubuntu I hope to succeed, thanks
 Ask if you have any other questions.
[20:30] <qwertyss> tnx
 We also have a section in our manual on discover. https://manual.lubuntu.me/4/4.1/discover.html
 Since you are new there may be other sections of the manual that are helpful.
[20:35] <qwertyss> k
[20:49] <qwertyss> I found, thank you for your help
[20:50] <qwertyss> so far i have used linux endless, i hope i can handle lubuntu
[20:55] <wxl> certainly other file systems are supported
[20:55] <wxl> never tested on f2fs, though
[20:57] <wxl> supposedly it was merged into the 3.8 kernel
[20:57] <tomreyn> define "unnecessary journaling"
[21:00] <wxl> grub can't boot it though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1817310
[21:00] <wxl> however i can install f2fs-tools and run the Calamares installer and it gives me f2fs as an option
[21:05] <wxl> tomreyn: it might be good to know that it stands for "flash friendly file system"
[21:06] <tomreyn> wxl: it's a HDD though
[21:07] <wxl> tomreyn: well lots of folks still refer to solid state drives as such, just like people refer to music recordings as "albums"
[21:09] <tomreyn> wxl: i'm not really getting your point, but i bet this is my fault, it's late here and i'm very tired, sorry.
[21:10] <wxl> tomreyn: you're good :)
[21:10] <tomreyn> ;-)
[21:11] <wxl> to the OP with the silly nick, the short answer is it will work, but you won't get grub to recognize it. you'd have to patch it. <6s$NeB)6De6jgeD
[21:11] <wxl> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grub.git/commit/?id=71f9e4ac44142af52c3fc1860436cf9e432bf764
 no, only because it's less robust and vulnerable to 'sudden power off corruption' than ext4
 my opinion
 MODERN SSDs won't see much 'speed' difference between ext4 and f2fs afaict
 and ext4 continues to be more stable as a filesystem spec
 f2fs that i've seen HAS had "huge patches" that are invasive and can cause issues
 flash cards aren't SSDs.
 apples vs. oranges there bub.
 also phoronix has written up a nice comparison this past January of Linux 5.0 filesystem benchmarking
 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-50-filesystems&num=1
 F2FS is 'okay' but I wouldn't want to use it as the base system installer
 because it sacrifices 'stability' for 'speed'
 and under the hood it requires more than just the kernel to support the device
 support the format*
 ALSO
 to work in the GUI installers it'd need to be supported globally IMO
 by all the GUI utilities including gparted
 which it is not
 and there hasn't been any major demand to have it default-supported so it's not been given that kind of scrutiny or attention by the development teams
 and needs Security Team review for any kind of Main Inclusion which would be necessary for more support for it to be available overall
 so i will let you decide 'which is better' but NO linuxes currently offer it as a default-on-install file system for formatting that I can tell
 ... well, except for Android internals.
 but that's a different issue
 at least *currently* there's not major demand for it
 not that support couldn't be added, but 😛
[21:51] <qwertyss> a
[21:51] <wxl> b
 c
 d?