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vorlon#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:02
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Jul 11 15:02:05 2019 UTC.  The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:02
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vorlon#topic Lightning rounds15:02
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vorlonecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)15:02
vorlonbdmurray juliank xnox rbalint tdaitx infinity doko sil2100 waveform cyphermox vorlon mwhudson15:02
bdmurrayfixed a Traceback in retracing retry code, submitted RT re production update of daisy15:02
bdmurrayinvestigated amd64 queue growth, updated daisy to save core files in another case15:02
bdmurraysubmitted RT regarding cassandra write timeouts15:02
bdmurrayconverted more of oops-repository from using pycassa to python-cassandra15:02
bdmurraysponsored gdb 18.04 SRU for manoj15:02
bdmurrayuploaded better fix for motd-news.timer, wrote test case too (LP: #1829968)15:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1829968 in base-files (Ubuntu Bionic) "motd [on at least some instances] does not auto-update daily" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182996815:02
bdmurrayuploaded findutils with a change so that command-not-found will not suggest locate (package)15:02
bdmurraydocumented / carded additional mlocate work15:03
bdmurraytested and worked with Laney on his changes to whoopsie15:03
bdmurraycreated a different PPA with Error Tracker packages for staging15:03
bdmurraydone15:03
juliankNot really here, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JulianAndresKlode/Status/190715:03
* juliank is running around finding groceries for dinner :(15:04
vorlonxnox is out15:04
vorlonrbalint:15:04
rbalint* released unattended-upgrades 1.13 via Debian with a few more fixes15:05
rbalint* released shadow 1:4.7-1 via to Debian15:05
rbalint* sponsored & SRU-d LP: #183580915:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1835809 in systemd (Ubuntu) "AMD Ryzen 3000 series fails to boot" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183580915:05
rbalint* setting up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WSL and other WSL related tasks15:05
rbalint(done)15:05
tdaitx* jck 1115:05
tdaitx  - testing different jti templates (ie. jck settings)15:05
tdaitx  - setting up for manual tests15:05
tdaitx(done)15:05
sil2100Guess no doko and no infinity15:05
sil2100So it's me15:05
sil2100- Some stomach problems this week15:05
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:06
sil2100- New core18 release phasing15:06
sil2100- Kernel SRUs15:06
sil2100- Rust 1.35.0 update:15:06
sil2100  * Wasting some time working on an out-of-date version15:06
sil2100  * Pulling new upstream, refreshing patches, building tarballs15:06
sil2100  * Preparing new cargo, updating the patches, lots of hacking of orig-vendor15:06
sil2100  * Asked Olivier for help testing - firefox successfully built and ADT tests passing15:06
sil2100  * Uploaded to eoan15:06
sil2100  * Prepared backports, sent to a Bileto PPA, ready for copy to archive and/or rust PPA15:06
sil2100- ubuntu-core gadget updates:15:06
sil2100  * A few PRs, working through snap build failures15:06
sil2100  * Promoting snaps to beta15:06
sil2100- Final tweaks to the new automated infra for core18 snap promotion - all working now15:06
sil2100- Investigating issues with SRU ADT failure comments sent when there are no failures15:06
sil2100- Friday: working half-day only15:06
sil2100(done)15:06
vorlonwaveform:15:06
waveform* Chased licensing on libraspberrypi0 for Pi spec (related to bug #1819444); seems to be some confusion upstream as to where the source for the package is15:06
waveform* Responded to review on ubuntu-image instructions for rpi15:06
waveform* Figured out A/B booting mechanism on core, related to combining the core & classic bootscripts. Unfortunately, it's going to require changes (snapd?) due to the way it's currently operating15:06
waveform* Figured out steps for switching bluetooth and serial console on the pi without locking the VPU's clock (which we currently do; however, fix requires up to date u-boot, currently eoan only)15:06
waveform* Working my way down into the depths of u-boot for pi4 support; nothing working yet but identified several changes required (bus to phys address mapping, serial console changes (?), the list goes on)15:06
ubottubug 1819444 in libcec (Debian) "libcec: Please stop linking to GPL-incompatible libraries" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181944415:06
waveform(done)15:06
vorloncyphermox:15:06
vorlonevidently out15:08
vorlon * a few weeks since my last report15:08
vorlon  * travelled to and from the UC20 sprint in London15:08
vorlon  * last Thursday was a holiday here15:08
vorlon  * was off Tuesday; will be off tomorrow and also next Wednesday15:08
vorlon * reviewing the (touchy) ubuntu-advantage-tools SRU to trusty15:08
vorlon  * currently just working on verifying the authenticity of the GPG keys it's set up to import into apt's keyring15:08
vorlon * discussions around the toolchain-triggered regressions in kernel module buildability that made it into the release pocket15:08
vorlon * various follow-ups around full-disk encryption in UC2015:08
vorlon(done)15:08
vorlonany questions over status?15:08
bdmurrayI have no questions about status15:09
rbalintnot a single one either15:09
vorlon#topic Release incoming bugs (eoan)15:11
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vorlon#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:11
bdmurrayI forget did we talk about bug 1834226 before?15:12
ubottubug 1834226 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183422615:12
vorlonnot that I know15:12
juliankI don't think we did15:12
juliankBut we should definitely investigate this15:12
vorlonagreed15:13
vorlonif there is disagreement about what the UX here should be, we will probably want to involve the design team15:14
vorlonbut based on the bug history it looks like the current behavior in 19.04 is not what's expected15:14
vorlontargeting, carding15:15
bdmurraymoving on then15:15
bdmurraythe initramfs-tools one is still incomplete15:16
vorlonok, skip then?15:16
bdmurrayyeah, bug 139637915:16
ubottubug 1396379 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installer uses first EFI system partition found even when directed otherwise" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139637915:16
vorlonfwiw I think there had been some discussion of that bug on #ubuntu-release at the time w/ infinity, xnox, and tsimonq2; but it's not documented in the bug, so15:17
bdmurrayat what time?15:17
vorlonwhen the bug was filed and xnox added his comment marking it incomplete15:17
vorlonthat was re: the initramfs-tools bug, not the ubiquity bug15:18
vorlonwhy has this 5yo bug been escalated now?15:18
bdmurraycomment #29 I believe15:18
bdmurrayI don't know who Tom Reynolds is15:18
vorlonI think we should decline this one15:19
sil2100+1 - since sure, it's a bug, but it doesn't seem like a high-impact one15:20
bdmurraycomment #24 somebody says they bricked their laptop?15:20
vorlonI think this is largely user error, and perhaps things could be made clearer but I don't think ubiquity is fundamentally broken here when multiple ESPs are present15:21
vorlonbdmurray: with no other context we don't know what "bricked" actually means or why the user thinks this bug is their bug15:21
bdmurrayack15:22
bdmurrayDo you want to comment on the bug / tag it rls-ee-notfixing?15:23
vorlonI've tagged it15:24
bdmurrayapt-xapian-index is in universe for most releases...15:24
bdmurraybug 161294815:24
ubottubug 1612948 in apt-xapian-index (Ubuntu) "axi-cache conversion to python3 broke the script" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161294815:24
bdmurrayseb128 tagged the bug though15:24
vorlondoesn't mean it's Foundations' responsibility to work it15:25
vorlonbecause universe15:25
vorlonskip?15:25
bdmurrayskip not decline?15:25
vorlon(and I'll let seb128 know it's not Foundations)15:25
vorlonwell someone else could commit to doing the work15:25
vorlonactually, good point, since -incoming is only for Canonical teams15:26
vorlonyeah, decline then15:26
bdmurrayIs desktop subscribed to the package too?15:26
bdmurrayNope, okay I will decline it15:26
bdmurraythe next is a ftbfs so card it15:26
vorlonI will15:27
vorlonactually it sounds like the ftbfs is fixed so I'll follow up on the bug state15:28
bdmurraybug 1835809 is assigned to rbalint already, should it have a card?15:29
ubottubug 1835809 in systemd (Ubuntu) "AMD Ryzen 3000 series fails to boot" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183580915:29
vorlonhe mentioned that one in his status, I guess it's already uploaded and in -proposed15:30
bdmurraysil2100: you were going to look at bug 1833758 iirc15:30
ubottubug 1833758 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "lvm2: vgcfgbackup in postinst takes several minutes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183375815:30
vorlondid we skip LP: #1836064?15:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1836064 in glibc (Ubuntu) "glibc needs an update for linux-5.2 kernel headers (alpha)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183606415:30
vorlonah that might be the other end of the previous cross-build bug?15:30
bdmurrayvorlon: Oh, I think I did skip it.15:30
vorlonoh, this is for alpha not powerpc, so a different bug15:31
vorlonand evidently not fixed15:31
vorlonso yes, that's another ftbfs, let's card it15:31
vorlon(I will)15:31
sil2100bdmurray: yes, but then I noticed you already checked what needed checking, right?15:32
bdmurraysil2100: my vague note says "will see if image building is affected"15:33
sil2100bdmurray: ok, so I can still check that, guess I missed that one15:33
sil2100Will do that this week15:33
bdmurraysil2100: okay, thanks15:34
bdmurraySo now we are in undecided territory15:34
bdmurraybug 183004415:34
ubottubug 1830044 in glibc (Ubuntu) "glibc 2.29-0ubuntu2 ADT test failure with linux 5.2.0-0.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183004415:34
bdmurrayThat seems High correct?15:35
sil2100Is that the kernel bug affecting glibc that we were talking about 2 weeks ago?15:35
sil2100I mean, I remember some kernel bug affecting glibc thingy being discussed recently15:35
bdmurrayIt was reported on 5/22 so maybe15:35
vorlonmay or may not be the same one, but it's surely resolved, the glibc in -proposed has passing autopkgtests15:36
bdmurraySo High and card it?15:37
vorlonI don't think it should be carded15:37
vorlonit's fixed in proposed15:37
sil2100I guess it's just a matter of getting glibc released15:37
sil2100Since it's the previous one that's failing15:37
bdmurrayAh, got it.15:38
sil2100Guess Adam's working on getting it migrating?15:38
vorlondon't know if he is, but I have been15:38
bdmurrayMoving on to bug 1835660. Its super vague but seemed important so I tagged it.15:38
ubottubug 1835660 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "initramfs unpacking failed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183566015:38
vorlondoko: why did you mark LP: #1830044 rls-ee-incoming, given that the fixed glibc was already in -proposed?15:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1830044 in glibc (Ubuntu) "glibc 2.29-0ubuntu2 ADT test failure with linux 5.2.0-0.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183004415:39
vorlonnot much detail in that bug15:40
bdmurrayIs there any follow up that should be done on the unpacking failed bug?15:40
vorlonanyone have a booted eoan that they can check to see if this message shows on boot for them?15:40
sil2100I guess it doesn't cause boot to fail, right?15:41
vorlonright, but we don't want junk messages showing on the console at boot15:41
vorlonreassigning to linux15:43
bdmurrayOkay. Then seb128 reminded me of a patch in bug 155162315:43
ubottubug 1551623 in gconf (Ubuntu) "[SRU] package gconf2 3.2.6-3ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155162315:43
vorlonis gconf a foundations package?15:44
seb128vorlon, see the last comment15:45
vorlonseb128: which is an observation about why the patch might be unnecessary when using newer dpkg15:45
seb128vorlon, I asked bdmurray about whether we should/could consider SRUing that dpkg patch instead15:46
vorlondoes that imply desktop team is declining to apply the patch in this bug to gconf and wants Foundations to SRU dpkg instead?15:46
seb128we would like the dpkg patch to be applied15:46
vorlonI don't see a dpkg patch that's been isolated in that log15:46
seb128it doesn't imply we nacl the gconf fix15:46
seb128but bdmurray nacked the sponsoring request because the patch isn't in debian15:46
seb128and it's not in debian because they EDONTCARE because they fixed dpkg15:47
bdmurrayI didn't nack it, I asked a question about it.15:47
seb128https://git.dpkg.org/cgit/dpkg/dpkg.git/commit/?id=b5c50b3c615:47
seb128I guess?15:47
seb128and https://git.dpkg.org/cgit/dpkg/dpkg.git/commit/?id=7f43bf515:48
vorlonok, so someone should file a bug against dpkg with this context15:49
seb128k15:49
seb128thx15:49
seb128will do that for next week :)15:49
vorlonseb128: thanks - probably target the bug directly to xenial/bionic and flag us the bug # so we get it on our trello15:49
vorlon#topic Release incoming bugs (bionic)15:50
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bdmurraydisco?15:50
vorlon#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:50
vorlonyeah, disco too15:50
bdmurrayand the bug here is the one we just declined15:51
* vorlon nods15:51
bdmurraybecause its in universe15:51
bdmurrayShould we unsubscribe from the package now?15:51
vorlonwhat did we decide wrt packages that are in main only in releases that are in ESM now?15:51
vorlonI think Foundations is no longer responsible for those; Security Team is responsible for ESM15:52
bdmurrayI don't think we did decide about ESM15:52
vorlonI propose that we should unsubscribe if they're only in main for <= trusty15:52
vorlonbdmurray: do you want an action for this? :)15:53
vorlon(or a card?)15:53
bdmurrayvorlon: for unsubscribing from the package or something more?15:53
vorlonfor unsubscribing from all packages that are only in main for <= trusty15:53
seb128vorlon, bdmurray, bug filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/183622515:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1836225 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "SRUing the dpkg trigger improvements to bionic" [Undecided,New]15:54
bdmurraya card as I'm taking off this afternoon and tomorow and might forget stuff15:54
vorlonok15:54
juliankI filed a bug for thatearlier15:54
vorlonjuliank: for dpkg?15:54
juliankOr reused bdmurray's bug15:54
juliankyes, for dpkg15:54
juliankIt already has a card15:54
seb128juliank, ah, sorry, I didn't see it in the recent dpkg ones, feel free to mark it as dup then15:55
juliankI also have the list of commits from guillem I have to cherry-pick :)15:55
bdmurraybug 1828639 has dpkg tasks15:55
ubottubug 1828639 in dpkg (Ubuntu Eoan) "package libvlc-bin 3.0.6-1 failed to install/upgrade: 90.8592:triggers looping, abandoned" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182863915:55
juliankyeah, that's it15:55
bdmurrayisn't it fixed for Eoan now though?15:55
juliankIt's certainly in proposed15:56
juliankFWIW, this is the card: https://trello.com/c/nECzoqs2/2039-package-menu-2147ubuntu3-failed-to-install-upgrade-triggers-looping-abandoned15:56
bdmurrayWe'd found that already15:56
juliankPlanned uploading that soon, was waiting for infinity to do eoan, which has been done now15:57
vorlonjuliank: so you are SRUing that?15:57
juliankI planned on doing that, yes15:57
vorlonok15:57
bdmurrayjuliank: that should fix many? all? trigger looping issues15:57
juliankbdmurray: all AFAIUI15:57
bdmurrayso a bug scrub may be in order15:58
vorlon#topic Team proposed-migration report15:58
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vorlon#link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:58
vorlonI guess we have to go quick, 1 minute left :P15:59
vorlona lot of ppc64el backlog there15:59
vorlonwhich explains most of glibc15:59
vorlonsphinx was a non-Foundations upload, but it's not clear if oSoMoN is following up16:00
vorlonI'll ping him16:00
waveformvorlon, I was handling the sphinx one16:00
vorlonwaveform: oh ok16:00
waveformsorry - slipped under the radar this week with pi4 and u-boot filling my head!16:00
vorlonpython-service-identity16:00
vorlonwas anyone working on this? it was an autosync16:01
vorlonwho wants to volunteer to take python-service-identity?16:02
seb128vorlon, waveform, sphinx was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.7/+bug/1834236 afaik16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1834236 in python3.7 (Ubuntu) "codecs.open(errors='strict') doesn't fail on invalid encoding with python3.7.4 RC1" [High,Fix released]16:02
seb128(unless we have a new one)16:02
rbalintlet's see, i retried the build16:03
vorlonpython-reportlab: the autopkgtests don't fail in Debian, I've retried them now and will follow through16:03
vorlonpython-setuptools: reprotest/i386 is a progression (or flaky test) rather than a regression, we can sort that out16:04
vorlonbut libcloud/armhf looks like a real regression16:04
vorlonanyone want to dig into that?16:05
* vorlon tries a --no-proposed autopkgtest retry16:05
vorlonput your hand up if you want to claim it; meanwhile, moving on16:06
vorlondebian-installer needs an update for linux 5.216:06
vorlonI'll check w/ infinity on that16:06
vorlonglib2.0, I think the Desktop Team is managing that one16:06
vorlonand then we're done16:06
vorlon#topic Chair selection for next meeting16:07
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vorlonwho should we nominate that isn't here to object?16:07
bdmurraydoko!16:07
juliankHe'll be at DebCamp16:07
juliankI'm off next Thu, Fri16:07
vorlonanyone else who hasn't had a turn lately?16:08
juliankShould we keep a list of this16:09
* vorlon shrugs :)16:09
vorlonI'm not keeping the list :)16:09
juliankWe could grep the backlog16:09
vorlontdaitx: you want to chair next?16:09
tdaitxvorlon: yeah16:09
juliankSounds sensible16:09
vorlon#agreed tdaitx to chair next16:09
vorlon#topic AOB16:10
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vorlonanything else?16:10
juliankAgain, to make sure it sticks: I'm off next Thu, Fri16:10
* vorlon nods16:10
juliankAlso DebConf after that16:10
bdmurrayI'm out this afternoon and tomorrow16:10
vorlon#endmeeting16:11
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vorlonthanks, all!16:12
dokovorlon: there's no hint about that in the report16:30
vorlondoko: sure; the bug report was untriaged, but a check of the current status of the autopkgtests would've shown that there's a newer passing version, so I don't understand why you were a) looking at this bug and b) nominating it16:42

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