| didrocks | good morning | 06:10 |
|---|---|---|
| * tsimonq2 waves to didrocks | 06:10 | |
| didrocks | hey tsimonq2 | 06:12 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks and tsimonq2 | 06:12 |
| duflu | biab | 06:12 |
| didrocks | afternoon duflu | 06:12 |
| tsimonq2 | didrocks: I hope it's a bit cooler around there? :) | 06:13 |
| tsimonq2 | Close to 30 around here outside. | 06:14 |
| didrocks | tsimonq2: oh yeah, it is, thanks! It's only 29-31°C outside for the peek, but at night, we have 18-19°C, which helps cooling down ;) | 06:23 |
| tsimonq2 | didrocks: That's about what we're at right now :) | 06:23 |
| didrocks | yeah, really nice weather at that temperature :) | 06:24 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers, happy Friday! | 06:27 |
| Wimpress | o/ | 06:30 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN, hello Wimpress | 06:30 |
| oSoMoN | hey Wimpress | 06:32 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:33 |
| === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski | ||
| seb128 | hey there, happy friday desktopers! | 07:19 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 07:20 |
| duflu | How goes? | 07:20 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you? | 07:20 |
| seb128 | good mostly, but day is only starting that launchpad is already timeouting :/ | 07:20 |
| duflu | I'm slightly unwell, but for the moment not too unwell to log off | 07:20 |
| duflu | Yes it's better in my morning | 07:20 |
| duflu | usually | 07:20 |
| seb128 | those a frequent enough that it starts being really irritating the work with launchad | 07:24 |
| seb128 | launchpad | 07:24 |
| seb128 | worked now... | 07:24 |
| duflu | The weirdest part is that it times out before the human using it thinks it's taking too long | 07:24 |
| duflu | So the timeout is too short | 07:24 |
| didrocks | hey seb128, happy friday | 07:25 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, en forme ? | 07:25 |
| didrocks | ça va, c'est vendredi :) | 07:25 |
| didrocks | et toi, à part launchpad ? | 07:26 |
| seb128 | ça va :) | 07:27 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 , hey duflu | 07:28 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 07:28 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, en forme ? | 07:28 |
| oSoMoN | oui, la forme! | 07:28 |
| amurray | seb128: how accurate are richard hughes comments in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/O4CMUKPHMMJ5W7OPZN2E7BYTVZWCRQHU/ - basically I want to try and make sure we still offer fwupd support out-of-the-box going forward | 07:30 |
| seb128 | hey amurray | 07:31 |
| seb128 | amurray, he's exagerating the snap problems I think | 07:32 |
| seb128 | amurray, we don't plan to move away from fwupd don't worry | 07:32 |
| amurray | hey seb128 - cool - I notice he said we plan to drop gnome-software in favour of snap-store but that snap-store doesn't support fwupd (or at least that was my interpretation) | 07:33 |
| seb128 | he's right that if we move away from using gnome-software we loose that frontend to it but that part would be easy to replace | 07:33 |
| amurray | ok so as long as we replace it at the same time as we drop it then I am fine :) | 07:34 |
| duflu | I'm not convinced Gnome Software was ever a good place for fwupd things in the first place. Maybe. Kind of. | 07:36 |
| duflu | If someone was new to Linux they wouldn't go looking in anything resembling an app store for firmware updates | 07:38 |
| duflu | It's just a convenient way to implement it | 07:38 |
| seb128 | right | 07:39 |
| marcustomlinson | morning didrocks tsimonq2 duflu Wimpress oSoMoN seb128 | 07:44 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 07:44 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson, how are you? | 07:45 |
| tsimonq2 | Hey marcustomlinson | 07:45 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: hey, bit tired :P happy it's Friday :) | 07:46 |
| marcustomlinson | you? | 07:46 |
| duflu | Trevinho, you've got an MR(s) that are linking to the wrong MR number (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/681) | 07:48 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue (Merge request) 681 in mutter "Clarify that `clutter_actor_is_visible` doesn't always mean *is visible*." [Opened] | 07:48 |
| duflu | oops | 07:49 |
| duflu | Trevinho, you've got a commit(s) that is linking to the wrong MR number (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/681) | 07:49 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue (Merge request) 681 in mutter "Clarify that `clutter_actor_is_visible` doesn't always mean *is visible*." [Opened] | 07:49 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, same, weekend is going to be welcome! | 07:50 |
| Trevinho | duflu: oh thanks.. | 07:50 |
| Trevinho | MORNING also... | 07:50 |
| duflu | Morning Trevinho | 07:50 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho! | 07:50 |
| marcustomlinson | hey Trevinho | 07:50 |
| amurray | duflu: yeah I agree - esp since we don't use the 'updates' part of gnome-software for deb related updates - was always a bit lonely having just firmware updates there (since they are generally pretty rare) - would be good to have all updates in 1 place (debs/firmware/etc) | 07:50 |
| oSoMoN | good morning marcustomlinson, tsimonq2, Trevinho | 07:54 |
| didrocks | hey Trevinho | 07:55 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ oSoMoN | 08:00 |
| willcooke | le yawn. Morning all | 08:01 |
| Laney | morning | 08:01 |
| willcooke | hi Laney | 08:01 |
| marcustomlinson | hey willcooke and Laney | 08:04 |
| willcooke | hi marcustomlinson | 08:04 |
| marcustomlinson | le yawn aussi | 08:05 |
| Laney | moin willcooke marcustomlinson | 08:08 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 08:10 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 08:10 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke Laney | 08:11 |
| seb128 | (brb, changing location) | 08:11 |
| Laney | hi didrocks & se TAB TAB TABTABTABTABTBAB FAIL | 08:12 |
| marcustomlinson | willcooke: https://i.imgur.com/aUhOj95.jpg | 08:15 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:16 |
| willcooke | In plant news now, I forgot to water my peace lilly and it was looking pretty sad. Watered it this morning and it's back to normal already | 08:16 |
| duflu | Morning willcooke and Laney | 08:17 |
| willcooke | afternoon duflu | 08:17 |
| duflu | 🕊 | 08:17 |
| Laney | hi didrocks | 08:18 |
| Laney | yeah I just water the peace lily when it droops a lot | 08:18 |
| Laney | it's kind of it to let you know so openly | 08:18 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:18 |
| === ecloud_wfh is now known as ecloud | ||
| Laney | Trevinho: no other changes in mutter than the 2 bugs listed? | 13:22 |
| Laney | (checking we don't need another bug) | 13:22 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, have you had a chance to test the chromium snap in the candidate channel wrt bug #1821765 ? | 14:35 |
| ubot5 | bug 1821765 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] Missing icon in indicator" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821765 | 14:35 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN: actually chromium doesn't display an icon there for me anymore | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | so i haven't seen the issue in a while | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | maybe i have removed something | 14:36 |
| oSoMoN | darn… and I've never managed to get the icon there myself, so I can't confirm the fix is correct :/ | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN: ah, installing the hangouts extension triggered it | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | and yes... it fixed it :) | 14:37 |
| oSoMoN | \o/ | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | install the hangouts extension :) | 14:37 |
| oSoMoN | doing now | 14:37 |
| oSoMoN | thanks for the confirmation | 14:37 |
| oSoMoN | yep, confirmed that with the hangouts extension and the snap in stable, the icon isn't there, and with the update in candidate it is | 14:47 |
| oSoMoN | I'll do some more smoke testing and will promote to stable if everything goes well | 14:47 |
| Laney | kenvandine: just saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1828500 fyi | 14:50 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1828500 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "snapd fails always in Optimised Ubuntu Desktop images available in Microsoft Hyper-V gallery" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | Laney: yeah, i asked chipaca to set it to livecd-rootfs | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | the daily isos are broken as well | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | and the 1805 and 1806 hwe isos | 14:51 |
| Laney | ok | 14:57 |
| Trevinho | Laney: other few changes were mostly cleanups... | 15:39 |
| Laney | it's cool, I just renamed the old bug | 15:40 |
| Laney | kenvandine: ok, checked eoan (and bionic, the same in this respect) dailies: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w47zMwcVnk/ - core18 is there | 16:59 |
| Laney | BUT snaps seem broken | 16:59 |
| Laney | Jul 12 16:54:42 ubuntu snapd[989]: stateengine.go:102: state ensure error: devicemgr: cannot proceed without seeding "core" | 16:59 |
| kenvandine | we couldn't find anything in livecd-rootfs that is added core18 | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | and we have images that didn't have core18 | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | livecd-rootfs is also seeding snapd instead of core | 17:00 |
| kenvandine | which is a problem | 17:00 |
| Laney | it's there, you can see it in that seed.yaml I just pastebinned | 17:01 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 17:03 |
| kenvandine | ok | 17:03 |
| kenvandine | so maybe that was a problem only in the bionic based images | 17:03 |
| Laney | same there afaics | 17:04 |
| Laney | but snaps are broken due to this missing core thing | 17:04 |
| kenvandine | mvo has a livecd-rootfs PR that will prevent the missing core18 snap problem | 17:05 |
| kenvandine | our released 18.04.2 iso is fine | 17:05 |
| kenvandine | but images built based on bionic since then are missing core18 | 17:05 |
| kenvandine | like the OEM isos | 17:05 |
| kenvandine | and hyperv images | 17:05 |
| kenvandine | 1805 ad 1806 isos are broken, from what i've been told | 17:06 |
| kenvandine | https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/370065 | 17:06 |
| kenvandine | should be very good to have | 17:06 |
| willcooke | Does that mean we need core *and* core18? | 17:07 |
| Laney | ok, sorry to be annoying here but this is a pastebin from the /pending bionic iso: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DkG24WdsVJ/ | 17:08 |
| kenvandine | https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/tree/live-build/functions?h=ubuntu/eoan#n434 | 17:08 |
| kenvandine | that does not match what others are saying... | 17:09 |
| kenvandine | although it is broken | 17:09 |
| kenvandine | that seed.yaml won't work | 17:09 |
| kenvandine | as it has snapd not core | 17:09 |
| kenvandine | but it does have core18 | 17:09 |
| kenvandine | and he errors reported on the 18.04 images are missing core18 | 17:09 |
| kenvandine | Laney: this is good info! | 17:09 |
| Laney | sure, I can see that it doesn't work,a nd it is quite clear about why: "cannot proceed without seeding "core"" | 17:10 |
| Laney | I'm mainly saying that your MPs aren't going to fix it :P | 17:10 |
| willcooke | :() | 17:10 |
| willcooke | :) | 17:10 |
| Laney | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/427662367/livecd-rootfs_2.525.26_2.525.27.diff.gz <- that's the livecd-rootfs SRU that went into bionic-updates | 17:11 |
| Laney | I simply don't know myself if that is wrong but it looks to be what made these changes happen | 17:11 |
| kenvandine | so maybe the missing core18 is only on the hyperv case | 17:12 |
| kenvandine | but Chipaca said OEM reported the same thing, but I can't actually find any reference to that | 17:12 |
| Laney | sucks | 17:12 |
| Laney | it'd be cool if this code printed more things when it was doing stuff | 17:13 |
| kenvandine | yeah, see there if core isn't seeded it adds snapd | 17:13 |
| Laney | do you just always need core? | 17:14 |
| kenvandine | yes | 17:14 |
| kenvandine | for now | 17:14 |
| kenvandine | eventually snapd can be used for core18 snaps without core | 17:14 |
| kenvandine | but apparently that doesn't work yet | 17:14 |
| Laney | nod | 17:15 |
| Laney | this sounds like the bit that needs to have the fix then | 17:15 |
| kenvandine | yes | 17:16 |
| Laney | ok, glad to have got that far at least :) | 17:16 |
| Laney | can help review stuff Monday morning if you get anything done | 17:16 |
| Laney | (also, need more QA at various points) | 17:16 |
| Laney | CI | 17:16 |
| Laney | + / | 17:17 |
| * Laney waves, happy weekend | 17:17 | |
| oSoMoN | enjoy Laney! | 17:23 |
| kenvandine | have a great weekend Laney! | 17:26 |
| willcooke | thanks Laney | 17:30 |
| willcooke | have a good one | 17:30 |
| willcooke | night all | 18:31 |
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