| mwhudson | Unit193: i use the package import git for casper | 00:20 |
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| Unit193 | The only thing I found current just had imported dscs, not development commits. :/ | 00:21 |
| mwhudson | Unit193: well yes | 00:31 |
| Unit193 | mwhudson: I'm trying to narrow down why certain ISOs I'm playing with drop me in the initramfs, d/changelog and Launchpad diffs are nice but sometimes actual commits have more reasoning and much more narrow changes. The importer is just as good as reviewing d/changelog and diffs. :/ | 00:33 |
| mwhudson | Unit193: yeah, it's exactly as good as that | 00:34 |
| mwhudson | Unit193: i don't know of anything more finegrained though | 00:34 |
| Unit193 | Eg https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/log/ is quite useful. Ah, OK. Well as long as it's "It doesn't exist" rather than "I can't find it", that'll do. Thanks, mwhudson. | 00:36 |
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| seb128 | hum, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html hasn't been updated for more than a day ... who is the right person to ping about that? | 11:43 |
| Laney | I can look at that | 11:44 |
| Laney | this happened last week too... | 11:44 |
| Laney | yeah, stuck process | 11:45 |
| rbasak | Does it use lots of launchpadlib? git-ubuntu tends to hang when Launchpad is struggling. I never got to the bottom of it. | 11:46 |
| seb128 | Laney, thx | 11:47 |
| Laney | rbasak: Yeah, it's doing more or less what you'd expect to get a list of published packages in -proposed, check they've built, things like that - a lot of API usage | 11:49 |
| Laney | I can't see what it was doing | 11:49 |
| Laney | Not ideal that there's no monitoring | 11:50 |
| Laney | Maybe it could be run through 'timeout' at least | 11:50 |
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| Laney | vorlon or tobikoch (found you in 'git log'): can you please comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/+merge/370062 ? (cc kenvandine) | 15:57 |
| Laney | I thought that livecd-rootfs was supposed to be able to figure this out (hence sil2100 removing that entry), BICPW | 15:57 |
| Laney | BW* | 15:57 |
| Laney | possibly something around this area https://git.launchpad.net/livecd-rootfs/tree/live-build/functions#n485 | 16:00 |
| tobikoch | Laney: the functionality is missing from livecd-rootfs in Xenial, afaict. | 16:09 |
| Laney | tobikoch: kenvandin_e said it was broken for eoan too (that MP is for the eoan seeds) | 16:16 |
| tobikoch | Laney: It should work in eoan. | 16:20 |
| vorlon | Laney, tobikoch: does mvo's livecd-rootfs MP fix this? https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/370065 It seems to only add validation, so maybe that just turns the runtime failure into a debuggable build failure | 17:17 |
| Laney | vorlon: we should get that in I think | 17:17 |
| vorlon | Laney: k. I'm off today, feel free to merge & upload or get someone from Foundations to do it | 17:18 |
| Laney | kenvandine is saying (#ubuntu-desktop) that core is always needed - snapd is saying "cannot proceed without seeding "core"" which certainly sounds fairly definitive | 17:18 |
| Laney | ('core' is missing from seed.yaml) | 17:18 |
| kenvandine | livecd-rootfs is added snapd if core isn't seeded | 17:19 |
| * Laney is off, please talk amongst yourselves :) | 17:19 | |
| kenvandine | and according to the snapd folks, we still need core for the classic case | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | vorlon: ^^ | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | vorlon: mvo's MP only adds a check to prevent us from getting broken images | 17:19 |
| vorlon | right, so we have to add core back into livecd-rootfs's handling to work around snapd not being ready for a core-free system (and now enforcing this at seed time instead of failing later) | 17:20 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 17:20 |
| kenvandine | might be better to seed core explicitly, which livecd-rootfs will see and not add snapd? | 17:21 |
| kenvandine | then we don't need to touch livecd-rootfs when we can have a core free system | 17:21 |
| kenvandine | just by changing the seeds | 17:21 |
| kenvandine | this way we can control this in the seed | 17:21 |
| * kenvandine prefers to be explicit | 17:21 | |
| vorlon | I think that's inconsisent with the design principle of seeds, which is generally that you declare the top level / leaf packages that you care about and expect the machinery to spit out the right result | 17:22 |
| kenvandine | yeah, but without a dependency system | 17:23 |
| vorlon | we *don't* want the core snap as part of the definition of Ubuntu 19.10, but we have to pull it in because ugs | 17:23 |
| vorlon | bugs | 17:23 |
| vorlon | so I think the machinery should handle this, and not declare it in the seed | 17:23 |
| kenvandine | ok | 17:24 |
| kenvandine | mvo suggested they should really provide a tool for us to use in livecd-rootfs that takes the seed and figures out what needs to be added to pass validation | 17:24 |
| kenvandine | instead of having the logic in livecd-rootfs itself | 17:24 |
| kenvandine | that doesn't exist today, but would be nice to have in the future | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | vorlon: go back to enjoying your time off and I'll handle this | 17:28 |
| kenvandine | vorlon: thanks for your feedback | 17:28 |
| * vorlon waves :) | 17:29 | |
| kenvandine | /query tobijk | 20:05 |
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