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chealervalorie: 19.0401:14
valoriehmmm, that's recent enough01:29
valoriedo you run backports?01:29
valorieI do, to have the latest01:29
valorie!backports01:29
ubottuIf new updated packages are built for an application, they may go into Kubuntu Backports, which is one of the official Kubuntu PPAs. See https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs for more information.01:29
valorieapplications, plasma, and the frameworks01:30
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chealervalorie: no. though in fact I don't remember Plasma crashing before today. the taskbar bug with Firefox I had already seen though.03:05
valorieI had too many problems with FF after using it for so many years03:05
valorienow I use Falkon03:05
chealervalorie: I'm far from satisfied by Mozilla and eventually tried Chrome instead of Firefox, but it has its fair share of issues too. I mostly still haven't migrated from Firefox for personal use in the end.03:10
valorieI used both chrome and chromium and brave03:11
chealerI've been out of the loop for a long time but I must say I never heard of Falkon. didn't think Konqueror had competition.03:11
valoriekonq was the best for so long03:12
valoriebefore Falkon joined KDE, it was called qupzilla03:12
valorieit was decent but not a winner03:12
valorienow very good03:12
chealervalorie: thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'll stick to Firefox. In fact, I migrated to Kubuntu from Debian hoping to waste less time on problems, as I thought no one used KDE on Debian. the strategy is to stick to popular software when possible... although I've got quite a few issues with Kubuntu so far too :-/03:14
chealervalorie: thanks, I read that, yes. that would still be switching for a browser at least 100 times less tested :-)03:15
valorieI get it.....03:16
chealerI used Konqueror for at least 1 year but went back to Firefox because it was getting just too much behind, even though I appreciate better KDE integration.03:16
valorieeveryone should use the tools that they find effective IMO03:16
valoriekonq is just too old, agreed03:16
chealervalorie: anyway, I wasn't saying Firefox is really responsible for the bug. I'm guessing (based on very limited understanding) this is more of a Plasma bug exposed by something I'm doing with Firefox.03:17
valoriewe work with the Debian KDE team, but they don't take our team uploads03:17
valorieso we end up being ahead of them03:17
valorieit's possible03:17
valoriedunno03:17
valorieplasma team might know more03:17
chealervalorie: hehe. so you're a developer?03:17
chealer(I mean, a Kubuntu developer)03:18
valorieand they have been working to make plasma play nice with *all* browsers03:18
valoriewell, I'm on the team03:18
valorieI'm not a coder/packager03:18
valorieI'm on the Council03:18
imac_Told you valorie rocks :)03:19
chealervalorie: cool, thank you. is pusling still on the Debian side?03:19
valorieha03:19
valoriehe is03:20
valoriealthough he just got married and bought a house03:20
valorieso I imagine less involved than he used to be03:20
chealeroh, wow, you're well informed. so yeah, with regards to backports, again, my current goal is to stick to the most popular and tested to minimize bugs (or regressions), and hit bugs others already had to find workarounds for. I used to run Debian testing and hoped I would hit less bugs with it, but 15 years later I'm no longer sure that bleeding edge means much more stable (if any) :-)03:26
valorieof course03:26
valoriethe reason I have no problems with backports is that it is a PPA, it is tested before release, and there is PPA-purge03:27
valorieI've never had to purge backports, but it is useful for other nasty PPAs03:27
valorie!ppapurge03:27
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html03:27
chealerbut yeah, on the other hand, maybe I'm asking about an issue already resolved :-S By the way valorie, this may be more of a request than advice, but we'll read you faster if you highlight the persons you reply to.03:29
chealerthanks again, rebooting to Debian03:30
valorieI do that if we're not in active conversation03:30
chealergood night03:30
valoriethanks03:30
valorieniters03:30
chealerah, to answer my own question, there's no KDE module which maps locales to time formats. Qt does (Qt core's QLocale).03:40
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BluesKajHey folks11:22
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