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ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [i think it was, just not in a version that was shipped on the phone yet], ah i see00:21
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Lyokanthrope [Inexpensive and it supports display out which I'm massively excited about tbh], same tbh00:21
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Note for the Pinephone: external display support might be a little strange. The A64 technically supports multiple displays out, but all of the ports share a few key clocks00:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So unless you've got a 1440x700 monitor lying around, I don't think we'll be able to drive both displays at once00:31
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> @UniversalSuperBox [Note for the Pinephone: external display support might be a little strange. The …], Meh, I'm fine if it disables the onboard display00:32
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> 1440x720 rather00:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @UniversalSuperBox [1440x720 rather], so only that resolution is supported?00:45
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> No, that's the only resolution where you could run both the internal and external displays simultaneously00:45
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah interesting00:45
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There's probably more details than that I don't know00:45
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> hmmm00:46
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> running both displays now is a bit useless because the OSK/touchpad is not working as intended yet, I hope that will change in the future of course01:01
ubptgbot<mateosalta> still way more than expected for a phone priced around $150 :)01:07
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Totally01:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @malditobastardo [running both displays now is a bit useless because the OSK/touchpad is not worki …], it is tho? i can see a small notepad on the small screen with a video on the bigger one :p01:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Except you can't do that right noe01:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> except on a 1440 720 i assume :p … ohw ait its the way external screens are handled right now huh01:31
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] except on a 1440 720 i assume :p … ohw wait its the way external screens are handled right now huh01:32
ubptgbot<TuxThePenguin> In ubuntu touch is it possible to change the device form factor on the fly with a terminal command?02:47
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> wut?03:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> do you mean windowed mode?03:11
ubptgbot<TuxThePenguin> I mean things like changing the px/gu and changing the form factor between handset and tablet03:12
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @malditobastardo [running both displays now is a bit useless because the OSK/touchpad is not worki …], I'm excited for UT to support workspaces which can be assigned to each display, Staged on device display and windowed on external 😍12:45
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> @TotalSonic [Why does age of the device matter to some people?  First - as mentioned it is a …], Note that the C port is only for fast charging, unfortunately Meiizu capped the data transfer to 2.0 speeds.12:50
ubptgbotAhmad was added by: Ahmad13:25
ubptgbot<Ahmad> (Photo, 476x250) https://irc.ubports.com/LPyD50DV.png English: ​​​Very nice app. …  Record a video of someone (or yourself) press start the app will reverse all the actions taken by👌🏻 … A wonderful app, a very entertaining and fascinating magic trick. … To load. press here. … https://g.ayhamtech.com/2019/07/blog-post_13.html?m=113:25
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Ahmad [<reply to media>], @UniversalSuperBox spam13:30
ubptgbot<bhushanshah> Gone13:36
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @Javacookies [I'm excited for UT to support workspaces which can be assigned to each display, …], Oh. True. It wasn't merged yet right?14:03
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @TotalSonic [as an owner of both a OnePlus One and Meizu Pro 5 - I agree that PinePhone's spe …], bingo.14:11
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @malditobastardo [Oh. True. It wasn't merged yet right?], correct14:25
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Is there any way we can adapt the sound indicator to talk to audio-playng apps in Libertine?15:31
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> [Edit] Is there any way we can adapt the sound indicator to talk to audio-playing apps in Libertine?15:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> @TartanSpartan [Is there any way we can adapt the sound indicator to talk to audio-playing apps …], does said app support MPRIS?16:11
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> I'd need to check but I wasn't thinking of any one specific app.16:26
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TuxThePenguin [I mean things like changing the px/gu and changing the form factor between hands …], changing scaling can be done with UT, but simulating a tablet on a handset and vice versa, i don't believe that's currently possible16:57
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Javacookies [I'm excited for UT to support workspaces which can be assigned to each display, …], woohoo16:57
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> media hub for legacy apps? hmmm16:58
ubptgbotAndrewSChapman was added by: AndrewSChapman18:24
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @AndrewSChapman [AndrewSChapman was added by: UniversalSuperBox], Welcome!18:41
ubptgbot<advocatux> Oh! If that user is who I think he is   \o/18:48
ubptgbot<advocatux> But if you aren't who I think, welcome anyway! 😄18:53
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> When you read about people saying the PinePhone is not exciting, and you are literally planning to upgrade to it as a daily driver.18:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, think of it like travelling on an airplane. boring flights are preferable to the excitement of crashing into the sea18:55
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> For me it is just that modern phones are mostly far too big for me. And the PinePhone is pretty much the same phone I have right now, just with a bigger battery and the possibility to use ubuntu touch on it.18:59
ubptgbot<libremax> Not to be under surveillance by big tech compagnies is exciting for some people.19:00
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> I would like to have a better phone, but there is literally no one selling one for me. (even with just android)19:00
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> I guess the pine phone will also be one of the, if not *the*, cheapest device to run ubuntu touch on.19:05
ubptgbot<advocatux> Q&A is live btw :)19:05
ubptgbot<libremax> Thanks19:06
ubptgbot<advocatux> 👍19:06
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> We're live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_-ajpTvHRE19:06
ubptgbot<neothethird> @ubports_qa_team19:07
ubptgbot<neothethird> http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/contribute/quality-assurance.html19:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> uh, is it really close enough to current devel to move it over?19:12
ubptgbot<neothethird> @dohbee [uh, is it really close enough to current devel to move it over?], soon (TM)19:12
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> Hey guys, thanks for all your hard work.  Greatly appreciated.19:18
ubptgbot<Flohack> @wayneTBT [Hey guys, thanks for all your hard work.  Greatly appreciated.], Welcome ^^19:20
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> Thanks for your dedication to TELEports.  Amazing.19:21
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> I have a question... maybe not on the top of your list, do you intend to add a feature to be able to import .ovpn files into the VPN tab on UT?19:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, we could theoretically switch to new kernels on devices where pmOS upstream work has been completed enough that the device would be usable without android19:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> hmmm interesting19:38
ubptgbot<liberacuriser> I have question. Would add translations TelePORTS in Russian?19:39
ubptgbot<liberacuriser> and others UBPorts apps19:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> @liberacuriser [I have question. Would add translations TelePORTS in Russian?], should be set up on weblate i think, and just needs someone to maintain the translations there19:39
ubptgbot<liberacuriser> [Edit] and other UBPorts apps19:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> @liberacuriser [and other UBPorts apps], core apps are translatable through weblate. other apps will depend on what the developer prefers to do for translations, but i'm sure they'll take PRs where possible19:40
ubptgbot<advocatux> @liberacuriser [I have question. Would add translations TelePORTS in Russian?], You can start that translation at https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/teleports/19:40
ubptgbot<Flohack> @liberacuriser [I have question. Would add translations TelePORTS in Russian?], You can add Russian if it is not there now: https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/teleports/ - press the button add translation19:40
ubptgbot<Flohack> yes this one lol19:41
ubptgbot<advocatux> 😄19:41
ubptgbot<liberacuriser> in weblate no projects TelePORTS to Russian19:41
ubptgbot<advocatux> Click on "Start new translation"19:41
ubptgbot<liberacuriser> oh19:41
ubptgbot<Flohack> I do it for you19:41
ubptgbot<liberacuriser> thx19:42
ubptgbot<Flohack> @liberacuriser [thx], https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/teleports/ru/19:42
ubptgbot<advocatux> That was fast :)19:42
ubptgbot<liberacuriser> @Flohack [https://translate.ubports.com/projects/ubports/teleports/ru/], thank you :319:42
ubptgbot<RoyNL> Thank you!19:43
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @liberacuriser [thank you :3], now just to have an actual translator :319:44
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Wanna do some laid-back chat? Grab your mic and an optional camera and come on in. https://appear.in/ubports-chat19:58
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> (Photo, 1080x606) https://irc.ubports.com/dozJilkE.png20:45
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> I had a go at importing the ovpn file on the terminal but got this missing library error.20:45
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> I did also spot your tutorial in the docs for segregating the keys, I'll have a play with that.20:46
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> Nice to meet ye in appear_in.20:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> huh, seems that file is in the -gnome package20:48
ubptgbot<DC7IA> @MotoFufu9k [For me it is just that modern phones are mostly far too big for me. And the Pine …], I'd like 3.5" to 4"...20:53
ubptgbot<samzn> @DC7IA [I'd like 3.5" to 4"...], Nokia N9, baby!20:53
ubptgbot<samzn> Either that or the iPhone 5S are the only small phones that can run modern software20:54
ubptgbot<jja2000> @samzn [Either that or the iPhone 5S are the only small phones that can run modern softw …], Deprecated20:54
ubptgbot<samzn> [Edit] Either that or the iPhone SE are the only small phones that can run modern software20:54
ubptgbot<samzn> @jja2000 [Deprecated], mainline no batt 😉20:54
ubptgbot<jja2000> @samzn [Either that or the iPhone SE are the only small phones that can run modern softw …], [Edit] Deprecated (it said 5S before)20:54
ubptgbot<jja2000> @samzn [mainline no batt 😉], sad20:54
ubptgbot<liberacuriser> (Photo, 320x75) https://irc.ubports.com/8hrGIZAg.png Nice20:59
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> @DC7IA [I'd like 3.5" to 4"...], My current phone is 4.7" 16:9, which I consider my absolute maximum, when it comes to width.21:02
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> Also I just noticed that the PinePhone is 5.95" not 4.95" like I thought.. … Guess I am not sure about buying it anymore.21:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> @MotoFufu9k [Also I just noticed that the PinePhone is 5.95" not 4.95" like I thought.. … Guess …], but it's also 2:1, not 16:921:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> you need to look at physical dimensions of completed case, to make reasonable decision about size21:04
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> Yeah that is why I thought it would be small enought even though I thought it was 4.95"21:04
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> my current DD is 5.71" but it's the same size as my Nexus 5 lol21:05
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> [Edit] my current DD has a 5.71" display but it's the same physical size as my Nexus 5 lol21:06
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> The pinephone is almost one centimeter wider than my current one =,(21:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah, mine's 5.8" and only slightly taller than my nexus 521:07
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> Guess if I actually want to use ubuntu touch on my phone, I will need to get into halium21:15
ubptgbot<DC7IA> Anbox: … Do we have some information anywhere on what's working and what's not (yet)?21:24
ubptgbot<dohbee> the forum thread about anbox development or testing, probably21:25
ubptgbot<DC7IA> Link..?21:26
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @UniversalSuperBox [We're live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_-ajpTvHRE], "OTA ETA = ASAP" - Jan, 201921:27
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> genius.21:28
ubptgbot<DC7IA> Also, the drop down bar with all the tabs is confusing... I wonder wether that will change at some point21:33
ubptgbot<DC7IA> @DC7IA [Anbox: … Do we have some information anywhere on what's working and what's not (y …], Like.. Does audio work? Internet connection..? What does not work..?21:34
ubptgbotmi_kue was added by: mi_kue21:35
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> Anbox on the M10 doesn't work at all, for one.21:36
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> Actually there is a forum thread and a gitlab I think.21:37
ubptgbot<DC7IA> Will Signal via Anbox have Push Notifications and Calls..?022:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> Probably not push22:40
ubptgbot<Flohack> @DC7IA [Will Signal via Anbox have Push Notifications and Calls..?0], Push very unlikely. Calls one day when we can route hardwarea ccess into it, but its huge since you will have UT and Anbox to fight for hardware resources like Audio, Camera GPS etc.22:55
ubptgbot<NotKit> push can work with MicroG probably, but Anbox needs quite some work to be usable first22:59
ubptgbot<DC7IA> @NotKit [push can work with MicroG probably, but Anbox needs quite some work to be usable …], Signal doesn't need GCM, it just keeps a connection open23:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> @DC7IA [Signal doesn't need GCM, it just keeps a connection open], App lifecycle should still apply to anbox apps23:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Flohack [Push very unlikely. Calls one day when we can route hardwarea ccess into it, but …], Nah, anbox apps should have to go through UT platform, so permissions and everything works as normal23:23

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