[00:17] <Gallomimia> raid5dumb, i'm at some loss as to explain how things were at the start of your dilemma. how did you start with a raid5 having only two disks? did one fail?
[00:29] <Gallomimia> and now i have to copy a bootable drive to a logical volume. any advice?
[00:30] <Gallomimia> someone suggested i use rsync. what options would i use for that
[00:33] <donofrio> anyone know why firefox on 19.04 is unable to work with google on duo like it has on two on my windows 10 desktops?
[00:33] <donofrio> it's unable to sync
[00:34] <donofrio> I just installed on this notebook
[00:34] <donofrio> Client: HexChat 2.14.2 • OS: Ubuntu "disco" 19.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B960 @ 2.20GHz (798MHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.6 GiB Total (2.8 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 33.0 GB / 486.6 GB (453.6 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Control
[00:34] <donofrio> ler • Uptime: 9m 21s
[00:36] <donofrio> firefox is unable to sync says "invalid two factor code" but I know it's right
[00:37] <sarnold> Gallomimia: rsync -avzP is nice if you're going over a network; leave off the -z if it's between two local disks
[00:37] <Gallomimia> thanks sarnold. ever done that for a /boot/EFI partition?
[00:38] <Gallomimia> been trying to do this for days. can't seem to find a clear-headed moment for it
[00:38] <sarnold> Gallomimia: no; that's FAT, right? all files, nothing fancy?
[00:38] <Gallomimia> uh, yeah
[00:38] <Gallomimia> pretty sure
[00:38] <sarnold> part of -a is user, group, and mode; I wonder how rsync will take that
[00:39] <sarnold> it might continue on silently, might give warnings, or might die loudly :)
[00:39] <Gallomimia> pretty sure it just ignores things in a fat partition
[00:41] <Sven_vB> how can I ask systemd why a certain unit is running?
[00:45] <sarnold> systemctl list-dependencies can probably show you the Wants, somehow, but .. man.
[00:46] <donofrio> anyone found a vmware intelligent hub (MDM agent) for ubuntu 19.04 yet?
[00:48] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: if you place your ESP on LVM your firmware will most likely fail to detect / read it. in the unlikely case that the mainboard firmware will not fail to read it, but then attaempt to write to it, it'll cause data corruption due to the LVM layer.
[00:48] <Gallomimia> what's an ESP?
[00:49] <tomreyn> efi system partition, what /boot/EFI usually points to
[00:49] <Gallomimia> anyway, no. that and /boot are located outside my containers
[00:49] <sarnold> donofrio: is open-vm-tools the thing you're looking for?
[00:50] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: then you must have been discussing something else when you said <Gallomimia> and now i have to copy a bootable drive to a logical volume. any advice?
[00:50] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: but thats fine then ;)
[00:50] <Gallomimia> the, root FS and the EFI and boot. gotta copy them all to the existing setup. i have predefined partitions for boot and efi
[00:52] <tomreyn> alright. boot could actually be on lvm.
[00:53] <sarnold> Sven_vB: < sarnold> systemctl list-dependencies can probably show you the Wants, somehow, but .. man.
[00:53] <Sven_vB> sarnold, thanks!
[00:53] <Gallomimia> oh yeah? i uh... don't really know the difference between them.
[00:53] <Gallomimia> i had this set up working before. but current installers don't support the nested containers. regression of features does not sit well with me :(
[00:53] <sarnold> Sven_vB: systemctl cat can show you what's in the files, but I don't think it'll show you anything with the wants.d/ directories ..
[00:54] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: ESP is where the UEFI mainboard firmware loads the bootloader (usually grub) from. /boot is where grub loads the initrd and kernel from.
[00:56] <tomreyn> there are grub modules which add support for lvm and other storage mechanisms such as md raid, luks1
[00:57] <Gallomimia> i am using all 3 of those. nested
[00:57] <Gallomimia> is there some deadly reason i need to encrypt /boot ??
[00:58] <tomreyn> if evil maid attacks are part of your scenario, those would be why.
[00:59] <Gallomimia> you mean, someone poisoning my boot kernel?
[01:00] <tomreyn> firmware, boot loader, initrd or kernel image, yes
[01:00] <Gallomimia> i.... suppose they could do it to the EFI partition or the boot partition
[01:02] <tomreyn> the first part is what uefi secure boot could potentially safeguard against, the boot partition could be luks encrypted, decrypted by grub
[01:02] <tomreyn> but as you can tell this can easily get complex
[01:03] <Sven_vB> sarnold, list-dependencies just shows the trivial ones, no hints about why it delays the stopping.
[01:04] <sarnold> "delays the stopping"?
[01:04] <sarnold> what problem are you *actually* trying to solve? :)
[01:04] <Gallomimia> it's already quite complex.. the last time i had it fully set up, the GUI for the passphrase input was totally borked.
[01:05] <Gallomimia> but this brings me to a third problem i seem to be having. i usually catch a view of some error message saying secure boot is not signed by a trusted key. what's up with that?
[01:06] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: i doubt this is the exact message. the message is more likely telling you that something that's being loaded is not signed with a key that secure boot considers trusted.
[01:09] <Sven_vB> the closes thing seems to be sudo systemctl show bluetooth.target | grep WantedBy, so I'll try that
[01:10] <Sven_vB> however, that one becomes empty instantly when I unplug the antenna
[01:11] <Sven_vB> probably that's why systemd reports "bluetooth.target: Unit not needed anymore. Stopping."
[01:11] <sarnold> Sven_vB: oh! that's better indeed :)
[01:14] <donofrio> sarnold, no but looks promising https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workspace-ONE-UEM/1905/Linux-Device-Management/GUID-91D4F55D-E4C3-41D3-BB79-56BB24C1CC41.html
[01:15] <sarnold> donofrio: cripes. so many different tools..
[01:15] <sarnold> donofrio: good luck sorting them all out ;)
[01:19] <donofrio> yepper
[01:21] <Sven_vB> the BindsTo= option might be a way to ensure BT.svc won't run w/o BT.tgt, "it declares that if the unit bound to is stopped, this unit will be stopped too."
[01:39] <Sven_vB> nope, it just gives systemd a reason to keep bluetooth.target alive. =)
[01:43] <Sven_vB> I'll try PartOf=
[01:55] <Sven_vB> yes, finally! that's it. printf '%s\n' '[Unit]' 'PartOf=bluetooth.target' >/etc/systemd/system/bluetooth.service.d/10-stop-asap-when-not-needed.conf && systemctl reenable bluetooth.service
[02:30] <snadge> so i upgraded to a ryzen 3700X, and now i can't boot into 19.04, because of systemd XD
[02:30] <snadge> I can boot into 18.04.2 lts.. is there some kind of beta systemd I can update to?
[02:30] <snadge> that i can install chrooted from 18.04
[02:33] <snadge> never mind guys.. always first
[02:33] <snadge> google
[02:33] <snadge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1835809
[02:33] <snadge> can this get pushed into proposed or something?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> snadge: AMD is putting out the fix: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Releases-Linux-Zen2-Fix
[02:34] <snadge> ok so just use 18.04 until my vendor releases an updated bios
[02:35] <snadge> or install that patch if im super impatient
[02:35] <leonardus> How can I double-check that my wireless interface is in monitor mode?
[02:38] <magic_ninja> is there any kind of system restore type programs in the ubuntu ecosystem?
[02:39] <Bashing-om> !backups | magic_ninja
[02:45] <magic_ninja> So much saying so little.
[02:46] <magic_ninja> That gives an entry point, though.
[02:47] <magic_ninja> Looks like grsync is what I want. I just want to back up the system configuration periodically.
[02:51] <Bashing-om> magic_ninja: Everyone has a different use case - but why back up anything other than personal files and data ? as system files are in the install medium and only takes 20 minutes to reinstall the system and restore personal files.
[02:56] <magic_ninja> I have other backup means in place for important personal files.
[02:57] <magic_ninja> I was just feeling like it would be faster to restore a system configuration backup rather than reinstall and have it back to working and set up how I want.
[02:57] <magic_ninja> I do have a separate home partition set up already.
[02:58] <deltab> system configuration can have all sorts of things you want to keep
[03:00] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I'
[03:00] <deltab> hostnames, ssh keys, network passwords, key bindings, colour schemes, user ids, etc.
[03:00] <magic_ninja> ^^
[03:00] <magic_ninja> fstab
[03:01] <bobdobbs> I'm trying to start ardour5. It's installed from ubuntu 18.04's default repos. When I try to start it I get this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zFBsbMdz33/
[03:02] <bobdobbs> I think the significant line is "Color shuttle bg not found". If I google that error a number of results come up that are related to Ardour and gtk. But there seem to be a range of solutions to this error, going back to 2013.
[03:02] <bobdobbs> I'm simply not sure where to start. I don't really know anythign about gtk
[03:02] <b4udv8> is Gnome w/ Evolution available on 19.04?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> !info evolution disco | b4udv8
[03:07] <Gallomimia> tip: don't search for "evolution" on google expecting to find this software.
[03:12] <b4udv8> thanxubottu
[03:14] <deltab> search for  evolution email  or the like
[04:56] <nikolam> I have 2 LAN interfaces with fixed IPs and 2 Wireless interfaces, one on USB, one on PCI. Only PCI Wireless card comes up and get DHCP address, after cominug up from standby
[04:57] <nikolam> enp3s0 and enp4s0 does not get their fixed IPs (Xubuntu 18.10) upon coming form standby
[04:59] <nikolam> It's ASUS P5W DH Deluxe with two gigabit LAn on board 2X (Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 20))
[05:00] <Gallomimia> i think i am finally doing it. rsync is doing its thing. i mounted the various root and boot and efi partitions into /target and /source
[05:01] <Gallomimia> oh it might be awhile. in the mean time can someone remind me the command to mount certain special filesystems prior to doing a chroot so i can update grub?
[05:10] <nanoz> how to delete software in ubuntu?
[05:10] <magic_ninja> nanoz, use synaptic
[05:11] <magic_ninja> nanoz, get the package name you want to remove, and uninstall it
[05:11] <nanoz> via terminal?
[05:11] <magic_ninja> You can also use the terminal. apt search <package>
[05:11] <magic_ninja> sudo apt remove <package>
[05:12] <mdemo> Anybody know if any of the various todo lists / wikis / kanban packages let you define a task that needs to recur X number of days after you last did it? Example would be mowing the lawn. Most recurring todos I've seen don't recur that way.
[05:13] <wylel> So are you wanting it to go out 10 days even if you complete it late? or every 10 days? mdemo
[05:14] <mdemo> yeah, like that. next mow should always be 10 days out even if current mow was late
[05:15] <wylel> Gotcha, so you set 10 days from now, but in 12 days is when you click complete, so you then want the next mow to be 10 days from that day automatically?
[05:16] <mdemo> that'd be nice, the todo lists I've looked at don't seem to work that way with scheduled tasks
[05:18] <mdemo> but right now I'm using tiddlywiki so I have no recurring tasks at all
[05:18] <wylel> Yeah I honestly dont think I have ever seen that, im looking though some ive used before to see
[06:01] <malv> what sort of apps does ubuntu have for transgender pan-sexual people?
[06:01] <Gallomimia> any app they choose.
[06:02] <malv> will ubuntu change their background for lgbt pride month?
[06:03] <Gallomimia> im going to say that's probably off-topic for a support channel
[06:03] <malv> oooo... looks like someone is on it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1831375
[07:30] <psprint_> Hello. In which package is the /bin/column or /usr/bin/column tool?
[07:33] <EriC^> psprint_: bsdmainutils
[07:33] <psprint_> EriC^: thanks!
[07:33] <EriC^> no problem
[07:43] <blackflow> EriC^: no problems, welcome to my ignore list.
[07:44] <EriC^> blackflow: i dont care what you do as long you refrain from messaging me
[07:44] <EriC^> there's 1161 other people you can fight with here, i'm sure you'll keep entertained
[07:45] <blackflow> But you still keep going, noob.
[07:45] <blackflow> Bye.  /ignore'd
[07:50] <BovineWalrusVamp> I'm running ClipGrab from latest appimage (3.8.3) on Ubuntu 19.04. Whenever I paste a link into ClipGrab to download, it says: "Please wait while ClipGrab is loading info about the video." It won't go any further than that message. Anyone else have the same issue on 19.04? Any suggestions on how to fix?
[07:51] <adol-christin> I am good i fixed all (:
[08:18] <basalt> i cannot see the "VPN Connection" in the top right menu on 19.04 with ubuntu desktop, any hints?
[09:07] <Bob-Obo> tomreyn: Hi, finally back online now able to focus on this issue, are you available to assist?
[09:13] <ckopn> When I wake up my laptop, It loses soundcard, and shows only bluetooth headphones in output dropdown list. How to fix it?
[10:06] <aurolac> using 19.04 and firefox 68.0, i dont want firefox to switch to new tab when i open it in the background
[10:06] <aurolac> can't seem to change the behaviour, anyone any tips?
[10:07] <blackflow> aurolac: there's a checkbox for that in Preferences :: General :: Tabs
[10:07] <aurolac> i have that unchecked
[10:07] <aurolac> didnt resolve issue
[10:08] <aurolac> thinking maybe a re-install at this stage :/
[10:08] <blackflow> aurolac: Works for me, "Open Link in New Tab" context menu when I right click on a link, or when I use middle click.
[10:09] <aurolac> and it doesnt switch window to new tab?
[10:09] <blackflow> nope
[10:09] <aurolac> :/
[10:10] <blackflow> aurolac: is your FF from snaps?
[10:10] <aurolac> nope
[10:10] <blackflow> mine neither.
[10:11] <aurolac> its odd, as i re-installed 19.04 yesterday and was never an issue before
[10:11] <blackflow> aurolac: with fresh new profile?
[10:12] <aurolac> brand new install
[10:12] <aurolac> firefox updated  a la apt
[10:12] <aurolac> latest one
[10:15] <aurolac> thx anyways, i'll try re-installing
[10:15] <aurolac> im out
[11:21] <Youboontwo> hello
[11:21] <Youboontwo> I have a weird problem with apt
[11:21] <Youboontwo> I can't install winehq-devel
[11:21] <Youboontwo> it says The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:21] <Youboontwo>  winehq-devel : Depends: wine-devel (= 4.12.1~bionic)
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:22] <tomreyn> hi Youboontwo. there's no package winehq-devel in ubuntu
[11:22] <Youboontwo> tomreyn: well, I've installed their repo
[11:23] <Youboontwo> dl.winehq.org//wine-builds/ubuntu
[11:23] <tomreyn> Youboontwo: so when something with a 3rd party repository is not working. you should contact their support.
[11:24] <gamester> How do I apt search for something with a + in its name. It seems to be finding just about everything. If I do "apt install libc++" it'll try to install a whole crapload
[11:24] <gamester> "Note, selecting 'libcgicc-doc' for regex 'libc+"
[11:25] <gamester> quotes do not work
[11:25] <blackflow> gamester: \+  ?
[11:26] <gamester> blackflow: no, doesn't seem to help. Seems to do the same thing.
[11:26] <blackflow> put it in quotes
[11:26] <blackflow> apt search '\+'
[11:27] <gamester> Here's what I'm now trying: sudo apt install "libc\+\+"    ->     Regex compilation error - Trailing backslash
[11:28] <blackflow> gamester: you said "apt search" not "apt install", the latter doesn't require escaping
[11:29] <blackflow> gamester: apt install libc++<tab><tab>
[11:29] <gamester> ah okay got it
[11:29] <gamester> thanks
[11:31] <Youboontwo> tomreyn: okay, wine-devel is ubuntu's package, right?
[11:31] <Youboontwo> The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine-devel : Depends: wine-devel-amd64 (= 4.12.1~bionic) but it is not going to be installed           Depends: wine-devel-i386 (= 4.12.1~bionic) E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[11:32] <tomreyn> Youboontwo: there's wine-development in ubuntu 18.04
[11:33] <rud0lf> Youboontwo: anything else than wine-stable is difficult to install on ubuntu 18.04
[11:33] <rud0lf> and later
[11:35] <Youboontwo> thanks, that worked
[11:44] <Youboontwo> 1kb/sec, oh wtf
[11:44] <Youboontwo> 2h to install wine...
[11:44] <WereCatf> So, it seems a lot of apps in Ubuntu are now these idiotic Snap-packages and that's causing me one issue that bothers me: any Qt-based apps provided as snap-packages look horribly out-of-place due to not using a similar theme as the GTK-apps. I did try Googling around, yes, but I haven't (yet) found any fix that works, so does anyone here know how to make Snap-based Qt-apps themed nicely to go with the
[11:44] <WereCatf> GNOME-desktop?
[11:47] <tomreyn> WereCatf: what you said was cut off after "... themed nicely to go with the"
[11:47] <tomreyn> actually, ignore me ;)
[11:48] <WereCatf> Read it too quickly, eh? Happens to me all the time.
[11:48] <tomreyn> WereCatf: for several snap packages, there are apt alternatives
[11:48] <tomreyn> yes i did, sorry
[11:51] <LittleManson> hi
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> welcome LittleManson
[11:54] <LittleManson> i'm new guy to irssi, could everybody help me with me? a problem about ubuntu
[11:56] <TomyLobo> LittleManson, 1. surely not *every*body and 2. not unless you state your problem
[11:57] <TomyLobo> common courtesy is not to make us ask you to state your problem
[11:58] <TomyLobo> also, this isn't just "irssi". your client is irssi, connecting to the #ubuntu channel on an IRC network called freenode.
[12:17] <WereCatf> Welp, it seems the issue with snap-packages having broken theming has been around since 2016 in Ubuntu's bug-tracker and there's still no fix for it
[12:18] <WereCatf> One more reason to hate the whole stupid thing, in my book
[12:18] <TomyLobo> what do you mean by "theming"?
[12:19] <TomyLobo> oh gtk themes
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> WereCatf: snaps are created by their maintainers, nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:19] <TomyLobo> if snap ever goes away, it's going to be replaced by flatpack
[12:21] <TomyLobo> which shares that problem
[12:22] <WereCatf> lotuspsychje: Actually, it does. Themes not being applied to apps distributed as Snap-packages, yet Ubuntu nowadays insisting on distributing so many apps as Snap-packages definitely is Ubuntu's problem
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> WereCatf: feel free to discuss that in #ubuntu-discuss
[12:23] <WereCatf> No point in discussing it, since the bug-tracker has already had an issue open for it for years with no fix in development.
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> WereCatf: this channel is only for ubuntu support questions
[12:23] <TomyLobo> wait, which ubuntu-shipped applications are being distributed as snaps?
[12:24] <TomyLobo> i'm not aware of any
[12:24] <WereCatf> VLC is, by default, installed as Snap, for example
[12:24] <TomyLobo> what do you mean by default
[12:24] <WereCatf> It is available as a regular package, but you have to install it manually
[12:24] <ikonia> is the snap made by ubuntu or by a 3rd party
[12:24] <WereCatf> By default I mean by default
[12:25] <TomyLobo> what do you mean? is it installed by default?
[12:25] <ikonia> so if you do apt install vlc it defaults to a snap ?
[12:25] <WereCatf> Yes
[12:25] <ikonia> vlc isn't installed in a default install from what I can see
[12:25] <viju> How do I turn off keyring authentication popup? I get this every time I look for some application.
[12:25] <WereCatf> Anyways, I'm off, since I got my answer.
[12:26] <ikonia> you haven't answered any of the questions though
[12:26] <WereCatf> ikonia: no, snap isn't a replacement for apt and you can't install snap-packages by calling apt
[12:26] <ikonia> doesn't look like VLC is part of the default insall, so not sure why you think it's default, is the snap made by ubuntu or a 3rd party
[12:26] <ikonia> WereCatf: right, so if you apt install vlc - it won't install a snap
[12:26] <ikonia> so it's not "default"
[12:27] <TomyLobo> so let's get an ubuntu 18.04 lts image and install it in a VM to see which snaps - if any - are installed by default.
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> TomyLobo: there are, like gnome-calculator
[12:28] <TomyLobo> well i use gnome-calculator
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> TomyLobo: and gnome-logs and some other base ubuntu packages
[12:28] <TomyLobo> i dont*
[12:28] <TomyLobo> in fact i use kubuntu
[12:45] <Malgorath> Hey all, need some advice or help maybe.  I just moved my SSD from my old laptop that is to slow to a newer i5 box and when I boot of course the graphics are borked but not sure how to 'fix' it, I booted into a livecd right now
[12:47] <Malgorath> I can reinstall but I'd want to save all the setting in my /home directories so that I might be able to get all my settings back as I have them now if possible.
[12:47] <viju> How do I turn off keyring authentication popup? I get this every time I look for some application.
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Malgorath try this
[12:52] <Malgorath> lotuspsychje: I do not get a black screen or corrupted graphics, I get the login terminal prompt instead of it booting into X
[12:54] <TomyLobo> lotuspsychje, "snap list", for kubuntu at least, says "No snaps are installed yet."
[12:54] <TomyLobo> ubuntu is still installing
[12:58] <TomyLobo> ok i'm still installing system updates and vbguest, but what's already annoying is that ubuntu shows an amazon icon in whatever that sidebar thingy is called
[13:02] <tomreyn> !details | viju
[13:03] <TomyLobo> oh awesome. updates installed, rebooted, now i get a black screen
[13:04] <TomyLobo> oh nm i know why
[13:04] <TomyLobo> lacks VRAM
[13:07] <TomyLobo> lotuspsychje, you were right about regular ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PH3K7kXw56/
[13:07] <TomyLobo> that's annoying as hell
[13:08] <tomreyn> you can replace the gnome-[a-z]* packages by apt installations
[13:08] <TomyLobo> yes but i shouldn't haveto
[13:09] <tomreyn> starting 19.04 you can uninstall all snaps and snapd
[13:09] <tomreyn> (not sure for how many releases, though)
[13:11] <tomreyn> 18.04 flavours also don't depend on snapd
[13:12] <PottyTheShitter> yo
[13:15] <BluesKaj> nice nick :/
[13:15] <blackflow> lol
[13:16] <BluesKaj> blackflow, well, it's the weekend :-)
[13:19] <PottyTheShitter> Im on the shitter all day
[13:20] <PottyTheShitter> i got drunk last night
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> !language | PottyTheShitter
[13:25] <OnceMe> xdotool does not work on 16.04
[13:25] <OnceMe> xdotool key XF86AudioLowerVolume
[13:28] <TomyLobo> xdotool is what keepass uses to do auto-typing
[13:28] <OnceMe> ?
[13:28] <TomyLobo> works for me on 14.04 and 18.04
[13:28] <TomyLobo> specifically the auto-typing
[13:28] <OnceMe> Im trying to bind my new logitech mouse for increasement of volume
[13:28] <TomyLobo> hard to believe it doesn't work on 16.04
[13:28] <OnceMe> TomyLobo: what did you type?
[13:28] <TomyLobo> maybe it's just that particular key that can't be triggered
[13:29] <OnceMe> do you get a notification volume bar when you lower volume?
[13:29] <TomyLobo> try another key and see if that works
[13:29] <TomyLobo> since your problem is "xdotool does not work on 16.04", let's first establish that that's really the case
[13:29] <TomyLobo> or if it's not just a few keys that won't work
[13:30] <OnceMe> well I think xdotool actually works
[13:30] <OnceMe> but key XF86AudioLowerVolume does not
[13:30] <TomyLobo> also, why xdotool?
[13:30] <TomyLobo> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/32206/set-volume-from-terminal
[13:30] <OnceMe> what to use to manipulate volume?
[13:30] <TomyLobo> this isn't windows, remember? :)
[13:30] <OnceMe> how to bind that to my mouse?
[13:31] <OnceMe> I have left and right on my scroller
[13:31] <TomyLobo> same way you bind xdotool to it? heck if i know
[13:31] <OnceMe> how to increase volume with alsa
[13:31] <TomyLobo> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/32206/set-volume-from-terminal
[13:31] <TomyLobo> read it
[13:31] <TomyLobo> THEN ask questions
[13:31] <TomyLobo> not before having read it
[13:32] <TomyLobo> i already took the chore of googling for it yourself off of you
[13:33] <OnceMe> I read it and I also saw this before you
[13:33] <OnceMe> giving first results from google is not that helpful
[13:33] <OnceMe> I clearly said bind key from my mouse to linux so I can increase volume
[13:33] <OnceMe> that solution is not working
[13:35] <OnceMe> Ill figure something out
[13:45] <BluesKaj> I just use the vol +- KB keys
[13:48] <BluesKaj> unless you use vlc which doesn't bind to the KB
[14:23] <gavimobile> hey folks, i have a script i creatted in /etc/init.d/myscript.sh. i would appreciate some assistance with the runlevel. i am trying to have the script run after network loads.
[14:23] <gavimobile> also, i dont need this script to do anything before shutdown
[14:24] <blackflow> gavimobile: Write a proper systemd service unit. sysvinit is no longer supported.   and then schedule it After=network-online.target
[14:24] <code2be> Is ppa.launchpad.net down ?
[14:24] <code2be> I can't do any apt install or even update
[14:25] <code2be> Even ping to ppa.launchpad.net is not working from many computer I tried.
[14:25] <ioria> code2be, https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[14:27] <code2be> Oh OK !
[14:27] <OerHeks> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ >>> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[14:28] <wgrant> It's currently being moved, should be back in a bit.
[14:30] <gavimobile> blackflow: could you please send me an article about this?
[14:33] <blackflow> gavimobile: You could google for "systemd service unit examples", and also consult the systemd.directives(7) manpage.
[14:34] <OerHeks> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/126009/cause-a-script-to-execute-after-networking-has-started --- and the opposite, *before network* .. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/229048/how-to-start-a-systemd-service-before-networking-starts
[14:34] <tomreyn> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/systemd-essentials-working-with-services-units-and-the-journal looks ok for a generic systemd introduction
[14:35] <OerHeks> 2 minutes ago .. http://ppa.launchpad.net  and http://bazaar.launchpad.net  are offline for maintenance. Should be back soon.
[14:35] <blackflow> ... or ask our resident free google Search4U(tm) volunteers.
[14:36] <donofrio> blackflow, lol
[14:36] <OerHeks> blackflow, if that does not work, i'll bing4you
[14:36] <blackflow> :)
[14:37] <bear38> Can anyone help me understand the scope of lib* packages? I know that *-dev packages are needed to compile code, so does that mean that the lib* packages strictly only provide libraries that other programs need?
[14:37] <OerHeks> the lib packages are the reuslt of building dev packages
[14:37] <bear38> So, from an end user perspective, the lib* packages are meaningless?
[14:38] <OerHeks> if they were meaningless, they would not occupy diskspace
[14:38] <bear38> OerHeks: Ah, thank you. So, basically, they will never provide and new items in (for example) /usr/bin/, they just provide the precompiled headers and such for other programs to use?
[14:38] <bear38> never provide any new*
[14:38] <blackflow> bear38: they're mostly for shared .so libs/functions/utilities/code, as more than one program may require it, so that's why they're packaged like that
[14:39] <bear38> they would only put stuff in /usr/lib* and other such locations?
[14:39] <blackflow> I don't think there's any such guarantee.
[14:39] <bear38> blackflow: Thanks, that makes sense.
[14:42] <MadCamel> is ppa.launchpad.net down for everyone?
[14:42] <OerHeks> MadCamel, jups, it will soon be up, maintenance
[14:42]  * MadCamel facepalms
[14:43] <OerHeks> https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[14:44] <MadCamel> Yeah I see the twitter now. Two hours.. That's no good. Guess I'll have to figure out how to build these machines without apt
[14:45] <MadCamel> Odd that there's no mirrors of this system that I can easily find
[14:45] <code2be> Just spent 10 minutes to look for, download and install dependencies of graphicsmagick, but got it working at the end.
[14:45] <code2be> I'm missing a simple `apt install graphicsmagick` :)
[14:51] <blackflow> "two hours" was 9 hours ago tho
[14:53] <MadCamel> beats me. I have a deadline in 2 hours. I've resorted to rsyncing /usr and /var from one machine to another..
[14:54] <MadCamel> and I now know to locally mirror any ppa debs I may need
[15:11] <jelly> is http (not https) broken for PPA right now?
[15:11] <jelly> https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ppa.launchpad.net
[15:12] <jelly> ah.  I see the channel log, thanks! :-D
[15:12] <OerHeks> jelly, indeed
[15:32] <novns> hello. are PPAs down for everybody?
[15:33] <novns> apt says  "Could not connect to ppa.launchpad.net:80 (91.189.95.83), connection timed out"
[15:33] <jeremy31> novns: https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[15:34] <compdoc> yeah, launchpad.net is stuck
[15:34] <novns> jeremy31, ok, thanks
[15:35] <Bob-Obo> I have some weird problem with my left-click function (on both mouse, and trackpad button, and trackpad simulated left-click via single tap on the trackpad), seemingly completely randomly not working, and the only way I've been able to figure out how to get it working again (aside from restarting) is by pressing ctrl+alt+f2, and then ctrl+alt+f7. [Using a Dell Latitude E7440 with Ubuntu 19.04, and I do update/upgrade regularly via terminal].
[15:35] <Bob-Obo> Advise/suggestions?
[15:39] <TJ-> Bob-Obo: that sounds suspiciously like some application/process is grabbing input focus and not releasing it
[15:40] <Bob-Obo> Ok.....
[16:01] <henninb> using gpg and trying to import a secret personal key and it will not import into my secret keyring. I have attempted to trust it ultimate. any advise?
[16:04] <teward> henninb: are you sure you're importing a secret key and not just the pubkey of the secret key/
[16:06] <henninb> teward: I am sure it is a secret key. It has a password, but I am never prompted
[16:06] <teward> how were you attempting to import?
[16:06] <henninb> teward: gpg --import private.key
[16:09] <henninb> teward: I may have figured it out.  I think I have to import as  follows: gpg --batch --import private.key
[16:09] <henninb> now it shows on my secret keyring.
[16:29] <Bob-Obo> TJ: so any possible solutions?
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> Bob-Obo: compare with 18.04 LTS maybe as a test?
[16:36] <gavimobile> they folks, i have a script which i would like to start when the system starts after network has been loaded using systemctl. the script works when i run systemctl restart myservice, but i cannot get it to run on its own. here is my units file https://pastebin.com/YR2bHPNi
[16:50] <rfm> gavimobile, did you enable it? (systemctl enable myservice.service)
[16:52] <TJ-> gavimobile: did you 'enable' your service?
[16:52] <TJ-> doh, rfm beat me to it :)
[16:55] <gavimobile> rfm: TJ- yes,
[16:56] <gavimobile> here is the output for systemctl status myservice
[16:56] <gavimobile> https://pastebin.com/AQ07AUHX
[16:56] <TJ-> gavimobile: did you confirm the symlink was created as expected? "ls -l /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/"
[16:57] <gavimobile> TJ-: i dont recall if i saw any output when enabling the service
[16:57] <gavimobile> TJ-: how can i fix this?
[16:57] <gavimobile> or verify it at least
[16:57] <TJ-> gavimobile: also, "sudo" in your script is not needed since it is running as root
[16:58] <gavimobile> TJ-: i removed the sudo, but that shoudnt make any difference
[16:59] <TJ-> gavimobile: no, as I said, check if the sym-link exists
[16:59] <gavimobile> TJ-: where do i check? how can i verify if the link has been created or if it is correct?
[17:00] <OerHeks> playing a sound.. this page may give a clue to play .wav , After=sound.target   https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=213751
[17:02] <lakitu> hi - i'm having trouble running some crontabs on startup, & have tried a few different ways. this is the crontab line: `@reboot /home/myusername/scripts/#irc/renew all` - but when i check with `ps -aux | grep renew` its not running after reboot. do i need to invoke bash?
[17:03] <lakitu> the script (renew) has execution permissions, & runs normally from invokation in a console.
[17:04] <MMYStic> hi, what's the journalctl command to show the log about why a daemon is not started ?
[17:06] <OerHeks> systemctl status name.service - systemctl –failed
[17:06] <MMYStic> thx
[17:06] <OerHeks> journalctl -b -0 shows messages from the current boot, journalctl -b -1 from the previous boot
[17:07] <gavimobile> OerHeks: this post this is exactly what i am trying to do. it isnt clear towards the end of the post what the $D variable is.
[17:07] <MMYStic> ok thx... but systemctl status name.service doesn't give me clue... is there anything else ?
[17:08] <MMYStic> it simply say "exited"
[17:09] <OerHeks> where $D is the sound card device unit. i think that is unnessasary
[17:09] <OerHeks> after=sound.target should have all sound devices loaded
[17:10] <finnhq> Hello, i just installed Ubuntu 16.04 on my second hard drive. I have windows on another one and everything works fine on that. After updating Ubuntu however my internet connection stopped working on Ubuntu only
[17:10] <TJ-> MMYStic: "systemctl status <name.service>" and "journalctl -u <name.service>"
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> finnhq: wich network card chipset is that?
[17:11] <rfm> lakitu, there are some strange bits about the environment of a cron job that differ from a console session that can cause scripts to fail.  what I've done in the past is put a "set -x" at the top of the script so I get a trace...
[17:11] <gavimobile> OerHeks: not sure i understand.
[17:12] <gavimobile> if thoese lines arent relevant, than my file should be sufficent
[17:12] <finnhq> lotuspsychje, how do I find that?
[17:12] <gavimobile> here is my current setup https://pastebin.com/LE4CjB5Z
[17:15] <tomreyn> finnhq: lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller'  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:16] <Cybergrad> Hello. I'm curious about coloration in TexInfo and other programs in terminal emulators. I'd like nodes in TexInfo to be colored as they are on a TTY.
[17:16] <Cybergrad> I'm using Ubuntu 19.04. Thanks for any information.
[17:17] <tomreyn> lakitu: you'd need to espace the #
[17:18] <rfm> lakitu, I also have the script output redirected to syslog so it's not emailed to root  (which I did in a clumsy way because I didn't know about process substitution at the time.)  I found thin: https://urbanautomaton.com/blog/2014/09/09/redirecting-bash-script-output-to-syslog/ which seems complete, albeit with gratuitous profanity...
[17:18] <tomreyn> lakitu: the 'right' way to start services and run scripts at boot is using systemctl units
[17:18] <finnhq> tomreyn i get nc: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
[17:19] <tomreyn> finnhq: lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller'  | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[17:19] <lakitu> =)
[17:19] <lakitu> ok - hm. let me try escaping the `#`
[17:19] <finnhq> tomreyn ok done
[17:20] <tomreyn> finnhq: this should have printed a url
[17:21] <tomreyn> finnhq: does this syste not have internet access at all currently?
[17:21] <tomreyn> *systems
[17:23] <tomreyn> finnhq: if so, just run lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller'   and list the trailing characters in suqare brackets and revision numbers. example:  [8086:24fb] (rev 10)
[17:23] <finnhq> tomreyn, yes not at all i cant connect to anything. My network controller is: Intel I217-V [8086:153b] (rev05) devicename: onboardlan subsystem ASUSTEK Computer Inc. Ethernet Connection I217-V [1043:859f] Kernel driver in use: e1000e
[17:24] <TJ-> finnhq: haha! has the PC been booted into Windows and you've just warm rebooted into Ubuntu?
[17:25] <tomreyn> oh well, bbl
[17:26] <TJ-> tomreyn: if it's the issue I'm thinking of (I217-V) the Rx side is asleep, due to the driver not correctly initialising it, and usually occurs on dual-boot systems. Easiest fix is to alter settings in the Windows device driver
[17:27] <TJ-> finnhq: if it's the issue I'm thinking of (I217-V) the Rx side is asleep, due to the driver not correctly initialising it, and usually occurs on dual-boot systems. Easiest fix is to alter settings in the Windows device driver settings to disable Wake On LAN
[17:27] <finnhq> TJ- I booted into windows yes, but how do i not warm reboot into ubuntu? Completely shut it off and not restart?
[17:27] <TJ-> finnhq: read https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=191981
[17:27] <TJ-> finnhq: it may not be that, but it is highly likely.
[17:28] <TJ-> finnhq: i seem to recall i did find a solution on the Linux side with another user affected, using ethtool. Let me search my logs
[17:30] <finnhq> So I completely shut it off and it is still not working so im gonna try to go into windows and try that
[17:35] <TJ-> finnhq: I just found the udev rule I created that disables EEE which others have used to solve this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S5bHY8t6T7/
[17:36] <TJ-> finnhq: you'd need to alter it to use the interface name on your system (change ENV{INTERFACE}=="enx0050b68c5e50" )
[17:36] <TJ-> finnhq: test it first by identifying the interface name with "ip link show" then use "sudo /sbin/ethtool --set-eee off >IFNAME> "
[17:49] <Bob-Obo> lotuspsychje: still a novice.. whats the command to downgrade?
[17:57] <finnhq> TJ- so for "sudo /sbin/ethtool --set-eee off >IFNAME> " would i use „enx000000000000“ or just „000000000000“ or with brackets <> even?
[17:57] <TJ-> finnhq: if the local inteface name is, e.g., eth0 you would use that
[17:58] <TJ-> finnhq: I'll expect the interface is using  predictable naming so will be something like enpXsY where X and Y are the port and slot numbers respectively
[17:58] <finnhq> TJ- So in my network manager is one thats called eno1 is that it?
[17:59] <TJ-> finnhq: that would likely be it if the PC only has 1 wired ethernet interface
[18:00] <finnhq> TJ- then thats also the name that goes into the rules file?
[18:00] <TJ-> finnhq: correct... As I said, test it manually first to prove this commands fixes the issue, before doing the udev rule
[18:01] <TJ-> finnhq: the udev rule will trigger at boot-time as the kernel reports the hardware it is finding
[18:04] <viju>  I get authentication request dialog box asking for username and password. It won't authenticate and I don't know why it's there. Help me get rid of this annoying prompt.
[18:05] <viju> Usually when it tries to connect to gnome-calendar
[18:09] <Bob-Obo> lotuspsychje: I seem to remember that it was doing the same thing before when I had 18.04 LTS.
[18:10] <finnhq> TJ- it says bad command line arguments, whats the right format for the name?
[18:13] <TJ-> finnhq: exactly as the other tools report it. As I said "ip link show" will list the interfaces
[18:14] <TJ-> finnhq: e.g. "sudo /sbin/ethtool --set-eee off en01 "
[18:32] <finnhq> TJ- so i tried everything and my ip link show command shows me 2 networks however, one „lo <loopback, up, lower_up> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state unknown mode default group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00“ and one „eno1:<broadcast,multicast,up,lower_up> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state up mode default group de
[18:32] <finnhq> fault qlen 1000 link/ether e0:3f:49:ac:00:20 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff“. No matter what i use as the network param in the command it doesnt work
[18:32] <MMYStic> hi, anyone know where to archive a youtube video ? I mean something like archive.is or archive.org ... archive.org should work but in truth doesn't
[18:34] <vlt> MMYStic: Could you define "doesn't work"?
[18:35] <lakitu> say... i just lost all web browsing ability - i unpluggged/plugged in my router quicker than normal, & now this compute can't (but others can) access anything on firefox, including the router. how can i fix this without a total reinstall? =/
[18:35] <finnhq> Output: ethtool bad command line arguments for more information run ethtool -h
[18:36] <MMYStic> vlt simply it just run but it wait for infinity time
[18:36] <MMYStic> vlt: if I reload the archived page I can't watch the video
[18:36] <lakitu> i'm in Ubuntu 18.10
[18:36] <vlt> MMYStic: What page?
[18:37] <lakitu> what's weird is irc & console pinging work, but not any firefox pages
[18:37] <lakitu> i tried reinstalling firefox
[18:37] <lakitu> i could see if it's all my port 80 traffic or if it's specific to firefox
[18:37] <lakitu> ('ll do that here)
[18:40] <MMYStic> vlt: I insert the youtube url in archive.org, It try to search the page and it doesn't find it, then I click on save this page... it start to load/save the the url for infinity time. After that, while it is running, I try to reload the archive.org saved page and I can't watch the video
[18:42] <vlt> MMYStic: Did you observe this problem also on any other OS than Ubuntu?
[18:42] <MMYStic> vlt: I haven't other os
[18:42] <lakitu> argh. it is just firefox that got messed up
[18:42] <lakitu> i'll try to purge it
[18:42] <lakitu> (chromium works)
[18:44] <lakitu> wow - chromium flies. i'll give it that
[18:44] <lakitu> still gotta go with a non-profit web browser, for my tastes
[18:45] <lakitu> purge should work, i bet.
[18:47] <sixie6e> eyevee stop
[18:54] <lakitu> that didn't work
[18:55] <lakitu> any ideas on how to resuscitate my firefox? or do i need to go to mozilla's chan
[18:57] <aavar> Hi. Has anyone here had any luck running Advanced IP Scanner in wine? If not, do you have any suggestions for replacements? Angry IP scanner is the natural choice, but it does not show all the info...
[19:03] <lakitu> well refreshing firefox fixed it, whatever it was
[19:04] <lakitu> lost a few webpage zoom settings, nothing major
[19:04] <finnhq> TJ- I finally managed to execute the command. It was ethtool „—set-eee eno1 eee off“ but the connection still doesnt work
[19:04] <lakitu> back up & running - thanks anyway
[19:04] <finnhq> TJ- do I have to disable WOL in windows first?
[19:23] <lakitu> "Damn I'm good." - my differently-abled neighbor =D
[19:23] <lakitu> k - thanks. i'll work on that - script thing again later, computered out for now
[19:23] <lakitu> see you =)
[20:48] <vadique> hi, does Ubuntu support my laptop? Asus vivobook
[20:49] <vadique> Debian 10 can’t recognize 10ec:b822 rtl8822be card
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> vadique: ubuntu can be installed on alot of machines
[20:49] <OerHeks> maybe, there are more than one vivobooks
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> vadique: realtek chipset are sensitive to kernel versions, you might want to try a few, or the realtek git
[20:50] <vadique> I need for mine
[20:50] <Gerowen> vadique: Best way to find out is make a backup image of it as it is right now and then give it a shot.  If it doesn't work you can just restore the image and it'll be like nothing happened.
[20:50] <jeremy31> vadique:  I think kernel 5.2 has support for that wifi with rtw88 module
[20:51] <vadique> and which linux is inside 19.04?
[20:51] <vadique> Debian ones are way too old
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic disco
[20:51] <jeremy31> vadique: a 5.0 kernel, https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/tree/extended should also work
[20:52] <OerHeks> also for your rtl8822be http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/04/nstall-rtl8723de-wifi-driver-ubuntu-19-04/
[20:52] <vadique> nice then, I am downloading ubuntu
[20:53] <vadique> that handbook is funny, it does apt install when there's no internetz
[20:54] <vipin7275> Hi
[20:54] <vipin7275> Usb drive not getting detected. When i try dmesg command got result as "unable to enumerate USB device"
[20:54] <vipin7275> anyone please help
[20:56] <tomreyn> vipin7275: try disconnecting all other usb devices you dont strictly need, then try again. also try connecting the usb drive to other usb ports.
[20:56] <vipin7275>  there is no other usb attached. and also same result in other usb ports
[20:57] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version is this? which hardware?
[20:57] <tomreyn> ubuntu version: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[20:57] <tomreyn> hardware: journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'
[20:57] <vipin7275> Ubuntu 16.04
[20:58] <B|ack0p> hi there
[20:58] <vipin7275> Its a USB pendrive
[20:58] <B|ack0p> can i change this link with duckduckgo ? http://start.ubuntu.com/current/Google/?sourceid=hp
[20:59] <tomreyn> vipin7275: i mean the computer
[21:00] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: in a text editor?
[21:00] <wylel> So I am updating DNS servers in system settings, but its not actually changing anything
[21:00] <wylel> Do I need to logout/back in to get it to take?
[21:00] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: i want to make that page my homepage but i d like duckduckgo
[21:00] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: on some specific web browser, i assume?
[21:01] <vipin7275> tomreyn: you mean the brand of computer?
[21:01] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: yes default firefox on ubuntu 18.04
[21:01] <wylel> tomreyn: I believe he is wanting to change Google to DuckDuckGo
[21:01] <tds> wylel: you might need to take the connection down and back up again
[21:01] <tomreyn> vipin7275: can you just post the outputof the commands i posted above?
[21:01] <tds> (ie nmcli connection down foo, nmcli connection up foo)
[21:01] <wylel> tds: thanks, ill try that
[21:01] <tds> wylel: also, how are you checking this?
[21:01] <wylel> tds: nslookup
[21:02] <wylel> to my machine
[21:02] <wylel> the resolve.conf file does not get changed
[21:02] <tds> what's in resolv.conf?
[21:02] <wylel> the default info that was there before
[21:02] <tds> on a modern system I'd expect it to just point to resolved's stub resolver
[21:02] <tds> (ie 127.0.0.53)
[21:02] <wylel> how do I check that?
[21:02] <wylel> yeah it does
[21:03] <tds> if you `resolvectl` you'll see what resolvers resolved is configured to use
[21:03] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: aput:config -> browser.startup.homepage
[21:04] <wylel> tds: ahh okay so on that it shows my link to have the correct servers
[21:04] <wylel> why would nslookup show the stub?
[21:04] <tds> because nslookup reads in /etc/resolv.conf and queries the resolver listed there
[21:04] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: or just preferences -> home -> new window and tabs
[21:04] <tds> as do dig, host, etc
[21:05] <wylel> i see
[21:05] <vipin7275> tomreyn: sorry im new to ubuntu. should i do any modification in that commands
[21:05] <vipin7275> tomreyn: sorry im new to ubuntu. should i do any modification in that commands?
[21:05] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: i mean ubuntu vantage startpage
[21:05] <tds> wylel: if you're actually getting back replies with records not as you were expecting, you can flush resolved's cache
[21:06] <B|ack0p> but i did it
[21:06] <B|ack0p> i changed source codes of html
[21:06] <tomreyn> vipin7275: no, you can just run them as they are, and post the output here. please use a !pastebin when posting multiple lines
[21:06] <tomreyn> !pastebin | vipin7275
[21:06] <tds> wylel: and if you really want resolv.conf to point at something other than resolved's stub, you can symlink it to the other file provided by systemd
[21:06] <tds> ah yeah, /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf
[21:06] <tds> rather than /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf
[21:07] <wylel> okay ill check that out
[21:07] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: i do not know what you mean by "ubuntu vantage startpage", i'm afraid. did what i suggested not help you replace the google homepage by https://duckduckgo.com ?
[21:07] <tds> but that shouldn't be needed, and may cause problems in some cases :)
[21:10] <vipin7275> tomreyn: when i try to directly run, im getting command not found error
[21:11] <tomreyn> vipin7275: which command were you running?
[21:11] <vipin7275> ubuntu version: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)hardware: journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'
[21:12] <tomreyn> vipin7275: omit "ubuntu version:"
[21:12] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: http://start.ubuntu.com/current/Google/?sourceid=hp  this link
[21:12] <B|ack0p> not just google.com
[21:12] <B|ack0p> start.ubuntu.com i mean
[21:13] <vipin7275> Ubuntu Version: https://termbin.com/wc2w
[21:14] <tomreyn> vipin7275: well done. now:     journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'
[21:14] <MAISELF_t2> .
[21:14] <MAISELF_t2> Hello, what means the I flag on lsattr output flags?
[21:15] <vipin7275> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J7RcdTp6sK/
[21:15] <MAISELF_t2> i on Caps Lock I
[21:16] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: if you want the same looks but the search poitning to duckduckgo, you'd have to save the html to your computer and modify it, replacing the google logo and changing the target of the html form.
[21:17] <vipin7275> tomreyn: pastebin url https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J7RcdTp6sK/
[21:18] <tomreyn> vipin7275: okay. so first of all make sure you install all pending updates. your ubuntu has not received security patched in more than a year.
[21:18] <tomreyn> vipin7275:      sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[21:18] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: then how can i set offline page as homepage of firefox?
[21:18] <B|ack0p> i saved html and edited. now duckduckgo is set as search engine but it is html file running from my pc
[21:19] <MAISELF_t2> what means the I flag on lsattr output flags?
[21:19] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: copy the local file path  and prefix it with file://  and put this in your url bar
[21:19] <tomreyn> see if it loads
[21:20] <vipin7275> tomreyn: i have initiated the update. After the update what should i do?
[21:21] <OerHeks> one needs a tool like this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/new-tab-override/ for own hosted html ?
[21:21] <tomreyn> MAISELF_t2: immutable
[21:21] <friendlyGoat> hey i was wondering if anyone can help me at all with pam_kwallet. no matter what when i log in theres always this in the logs and its bothering me so much.
[21:21] <friendlyGoat> "pam_kwallet5(lightdm:session): pam_kwallet5: Impossible to write walletKey to walletPipe"
[21:21] <friendlyGoat> i have no idea how to get it to go away.
[21:21] <tomreyn> MAISELF_t2: see the chattr(1) !man page
[21:21] <tomreyn> !man | MAISELF_t2
[21:21] <MAISELF_t2> tomreyn: no, immutable is i
[21:22] <tomreyn> vipin7275: after the update is complete, reboot to the new kernel image, see if the problem persists.
[21:22] <tomreyn> MAISELF_t2: oh you wrote something about caps lock, i assumed you meant to say you could not type lower case 'i'
[21:22] <MAISELF_t2> tomreyn: I Caps Locked, on the first trace. the manpage does not show + or - I is i and the i is on the middle of trace
[21:23] <tomreyn> MAISELF_t2: well read the man page, it will tell
[21:23] <tomreyn> 'I' is there
[21:23] <MAISELF_t2> the manpage does not haves I
[21:23] <MAISELF_t2> is i
[21:23] <tomreyn> quote: The 'I' attribute is used by the htree code to indicate that a directory is being indexed using hashed trees.  It may not be set or reset using chattr(1), although it can be displayed by lsattr(1).
[21:23] <vipin7275> tomreyn: actually the USB was corrupted when using in Windows. so will the update solve the issue?
[21:24] <MAISELF_t2> okay, tomreyn: so, i will have troubles or not with this?
[21:24] <tomreyn> vipin7275: no. if the file system is corrupt, then you'll need to run utilities to fix the file system. but running a 1+ year old kernel on an internet connected system is not a good idea in the first place. you need to upgrade either way.
[21:25] <tomreyn> vipin7275: if it's an NTFS file system (i'm just guessing!) you'll need to run ntfsfix against it. or better windows' chkdsk
[21:26] <tomreyn> MAISELF_t2: i don't see why you would
[21:28] <MAISELF_t2> tomreyn, paranoia, i got an,error on this partition but was not related to the attr, i
[21:28] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: thank you
[21:29] <tomreyn> MAISELF_t2: you can read up on HTree here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTree and in more technical detail at https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/filesystems/ext4/dynamic.html#hash-tree-directories
[21:29] <MAISELF_t2> tomreyn: ok thanks
[21:30] <tomreyn> you're both welcome.
[21:40] <vipin7275> tomreyn: i've almost done with the update. Will restart my system. can i continue this chat after the restart as well?
[21:41] <tomreyn> vipin7275: you can rejoin the chat, sure. you won't get to see what we chatted about, though.
[21:42] <vipin7275> tomreyn: okay ill rejoin. After the update a normal system restart only is what required right?
[21:42] <tomreyn> the easiest way to access the chat is via https://webchat.freenode.net/#ubuntu
[21:42] <tomreyn> vipin7275: correct
[21:43] <tomreyn> looks like you have an irc account and irc client installed, that's better than the web chat.
[22:17] <catbeard> 18.04 LTS , shift isn't working for grub boot menu, need to reset a password
[22:18] <vipin7275> tomreyn: i have updated. but still didnt solve the issue
[22:18] <TJ-> catbeard: Esc key, and needs tapping, not just holding down
[22:19] <tomreyn> vipin7275: ok, so as expected.
[22:19] <catbeard> twss and ty
[22:20] <TJ-> catbeard: if the system uses UEFI boot mode UEFI doesn't allow GRUB to read the shift-state of shift/ctrl/alt (which BIOS does allow) so GRUB uses Esc key as the alternative but it has to be tapped to cause key-down/key-up events
[22:20] <Bashing-om> catbeard: EFI ?  then it is the escape key that grub looks for .. there is but a 3 second window here, spam the wscape key.
 vipin7275: no. if the file system is corrupt, then you'll need to run utilities to fix the file system. but running a 1+ year old kernel on an internet connected system is not a good idea in the first place. you need to upgrade either way.
 vipin7275: if it's an NTFS file system (i'm just guessing!) you'll need to run ntfsfix against it. or better windows' chkdsk
[22:21] <vipin7275> tomreyn: i think its not ntfs. but to check that the usb is not showing anywhere.
[22:21] <vipin7275> tomreyn: can you guide me the next step?
[22:23] <tomreyn> vipin7275: unplug it, then run this in a terminal window:     dmesg -w      then press enter the 3 times, then plug in the usb and copy and paste (to the pastebin) the newly printed output
[22:23] <tomreyn> vipin7275: you can cancel the dmesg output and get back to the shell prompt by pressing Ctrl-C
[22:26] <TJ-> tomreyn: I've found "udevadm monitor -k" more useful for those situations (more targeted)
[22:26] <vipin7275> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jsr3yNN8Yx/
[22:27] <tomreyn> thanks TJ-
[22:27] <TJ-> tomreyn: it helps because it'll also report partitions, if found
[22:28] <tomreyn> vipin7275: so can you retry with TJ's command?
[22:29] <vipin7275> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MyVSpxkF9p/
[22:30] <TheWild> hello
[22:30] <tomreyn> TJ-: hmm does this mean no partitions found?
[22:31] <TheWild> what's the price of removing unattented-updates? Does it update something that cannot be updated via apt full-upgrade?
[22:31] <TJ-> tomreyn: no, it means the USB mass storage 'device' has no storage (there is no raw device (e.g. sda ))
[22:31] <TJ-> vipin7275: this USB device you're connecting, what is it exactly?
[22:31] <TJ-> vipin7275: is it an SD-card reader with an SD-card in it?
[22:31] <TJ-> tomreyn: the result looks like a generic USB card reader that cannot read the inserted card
[22:32] <vipin7275> TJ: its a normal pendrive
[22:32] <OerHeks> Theit checks on boot and in the background for updates
[22:32] <OerHeks> TheWild^
[22:32] <TJ-> vipin7275: all in one? does it have a make/model stamped on it?
[22:32] <OerHeks> so ye, one can disable it and trust on own update actions
[22:33] <vipin7275> TJ: its HP 16 GB pendrive
[22:33] <TJ-> vipin7275: is it a USB 3 device?
[22:33] <vipin7275> TJ: NO
[22:33] <TheWild> the X problem is: I'm pissed off of something (possibly unattented-updates) breaking my Firefox session.
[22:34] <tomreyn> TJ- / vipin7275: the USB vendor ID (03f0) is HP (i wasn't aware they make any)
[22:34] <OerHeks> why would it break a FF session?
[22:34] <OerHeks> Firefox update itself?
[22:34] <Bashing-om> TheWild: If you are content to manage update/upgrades your-self then yes you may remove unattended-upgrade package :)
[22:34] <OerHeks> https://linuxconfig.org/disable-automatic-updates-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux >> APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists to "0";
[22:35] <vipin7275> TJ: is there any serious issue?
[22:35] <TJ-> tomreyn: this does seem weird, if it is USB2 then and we can see its using ehci-pci
[22:35] <TheWild> Bashing-om: yes, I'll take care of them completely manually.
[22:35] <TJ-> vipin7275: I'm trying to deduce!
[22:35] <OerHeks> only lists is enough, no new lists = no new packages
[22:36] <tomreyn> vipin7275: you said it initially worked on windows, but then "got corrupted"? how long had it been working fine? how did you know it got corrupted? what did it show like on windows then?
[22:37] <tomreyn> TJ-: isnt ehci usb 2.0?
[22:37] <tomreyn> and xhci is 3.0?
[22:37] <vipin7275> It was working for years. AFter 1 day of usage, when i plug the USB im hearing the tone, but nothing is getting detected.
[22:38] <TJ-> tomreyn: precisely, so we apparently have a USB2 device in a USB2 port with a USB2 controller :)
[22:39] <tomreyn> right, now what's strange about this?
[22:39] <vipin7275> TJ: It was working for years. AFter 1 day of usage, when i plug the USB im hearing the tone, but nothing is getting detected.
[22:39] <TJ-> tomreyn: vipin7275 this makes me think there's something strange: "New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3"
[22:40] <TJ-> tomreyn: vipin7275  that is telling there are Manufacturer Product and Serial Number strings in the USB descriptor... but then those aren't found/reported, which they should be in the following lines
[22:41] <TJ-> tomreyn: vipin7275  compare that with one I have here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8mTMb7g6Sz/
[22:42] <tomreyn> TJ-: right, reading product, manufacturer and serialnumber failed
[22:42] <tomreyn> but "New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3" is the same on yours
[22:43] <TJ-> tomreyn: yes, those are the 'index' numbers of the descriptor entries the OS should expect to find data in... in vipin7275 device those aren't there apparently
[22:44] <tomreyn> vipin7275: personally i just assume this device is broken beyond repair. and i need to get some sleep now, sorry...
[22:44] <TJ-> vipin7275: will this USB device work in other PCs ?
[22:44] <tomreyn> TJ-: sorry, i have to pull out of this at this point.
[22:45] <TJ-> tomreyn: I'm not far off either :)
[22:45] <vipin7275> TJ: no i've tried and its not working
[22:45] <TJ-> vipin7275: then I think we can, as the Monty Python Dead Parrot Sketch says, say "It's Dead!"
[22:46] <vipin7275> TJ: ohhhh
[22:48] <vipin7275> TJ: and tomreyn: thanks for you time...
[22:49]  * tomreyn drops 16 ton weight on usb drive and walks off ministry of silly walks style #3
[22:52] <OerHeks> now on sale: foldable16 Gb usb ...
[22:55] <nikasio> Is it possible to create a persistent ubuntu usb from macOS or only from another installation?
[23:01] <OerHeks> on linux, mkusb can do that ..
[23:02] <OerHeks> on mac, it could be done https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/285722/persistent-ubuntu-boot-usb-macos-sierra
[23:06] <nikasio> many many thanks I'll give it a try
[23:08] <Gallomimia> still struggling to drag my ubuntu 19.04 install inside my LVM/crypto container. got everything done (i think) except on boot it still searches for my ubuntu 16.04 LV. the boot command has the old UUID. not sure where to look to change this. any tips?
[23:11] <TJ-> Gallomimia: from inside a full device chroot run "update-grub" and "grub-install ..." to ensure the correct UUID/device names are used
[23:11] <Gallomimia> ah i think i neglected the update-grub. i did a mkinitrd or whatever that's called
[23:15] <Gallomimia> what's the collection of special things i need to mount inside a chroot?
[23:26] <TJ-> Gallomimia: "for n in proc sys dev etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --rbind /$n /$TARGET/$n; done" where $TARGET is the directory where you've mounted the root file-system
[23:26] <Gallomimia> TJ-, i feel i did something wrong. it gave me a ton of errors about LVM, did some scanning, and added my current boot drive
[23:27] <Gallomimia> ooh. what's the diff between --bind and --rbind?
[23:28] <TJ-> Gallomimia: see "man mount" :) recursive bind (mounts subsidiary file-systems which deal with /dev/pts )
[23:28] <Gallomimia> igru
[23:28] <Gallomimia> oops
[23:29] <Gallomimia> must try this now...
[23:34] <Guest77239> Anyone had any trouble with gpg on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS recently? I use gpg and pass and they've been working great for the last couple months, but today I tried to use pass and gpg isn't aware of any private or public keys, even though there are keys in the ~/.gnupg directory.
[23:35] <Guest77239> The only thing I can think of that has changed is the update last night, which included a bunch of things, but nothing I know of that would be related to gpg.
[23:36] <Guest77239> I can see the keys in ~/.gnupg, and as far as I know nothing has changed with the files, so it seems to be an issue with gpg itself, but I'm not sure what
[23:39] <TJ-> Guest77239: sounds like the gpg-agent isn't running
[23:45] <Guest77239> gpg-agent[5315]: gpg-agent running and available
[23:48] <TJ-> Guest77239: is pass failing to find gpg-agent's socket ?
[23:52] <Guest77239> gpg: 81C065CB: skipped: No public key
[23:52] <Guest77239> gpg: [stdin]: encryption failed: No public key
[23:52] <Guest77239> Password encryption aborted.
[23:52] <Guest77239> that's what I see ^
[23:53] <Guest77239> And when trying to decrypt a password:
[23:53] <Guest77239> gpg: decryption failed: No secret key
[23:53] <Guest77239> There is no password to put on the clipboard at line 1.
[23:55] <TJ-> Guest77239: have you done a log-out/log-in to ensure this isn't a temporary glitch
[23:57] <Guest77239> TJ-: yes, restarted my computer for good measure.
[23:58] <TJ-> Guest77239: next thing I'd check is what packages were upgraded, via /var/log/apt/history.log