[00:56] <wxl> guiverc: you might see me go through some old bugs in lubuntu-meta. don't sweat it
[00:59] <wxl> guiverc: if you're bored, go look for old ones that aren't relevant anymore!
[00:59] <guiverc> i'd just started looking for 'easy' ones (which would include old!)
[01:00] <wxl> i'd sort by number and start with the oldest ones. those should be WAY easy
[01:05] <teward> "This is no longer valid.  [close]"  :P
[01:07] <guiverc> no idea how to 'sort'; i'm crap with browsers; but i've already invalidated some, mostly though incomplete (old untouched bug message)
[01:08] <wxl> let me get you what you need
[01:09] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bugs?orderby=id&start=0
[01:09] <wxl> hahahahah Lubuntu - ICQ for Linux does not work
[01:09] <kc2bez> "UhOh" LoL
[01:10] <kc2bez> I last used ICQ 20 years ago :D
[01:10] <kc2bez> Still remember the notification sound.
[01:11] <guiverc> THANK YOU wxl !   
[01:11] <wxl> np :)
[01:11] <wxl> thanks for the help
[01:11] <wxl> anyone else that wants to jump in feel free
[01:11] <wxl> btw i have a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally easy sru if someone wants to do it
[01:15] <wxl> here 'tis https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1812594
[01:15] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1812594 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 18.04 mistakenly sets the default lock problem to lxlock instead of light-locker" [Low, Triaged]
[01:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T90: Bionic locker should be light-locker] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90
[01:18] <guiverc> wxl i'm not touching any i've queries about, eg. wishlist https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/726007 should probably be incomplete & please re-test on supported .. but i've skipped
[01:18] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 726007 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Replace xscreensaver by a mechanism with xlock + *-power-manager" [Wishlist, Confirmed]
[01:20] <wxl> won't fixed it :)
[01:21] <guiverc> i can look at reaaaaaa.. later if not grabbed.... i'm best at single things (can't juggle, not even two balls)
[01:21] <lubot> <teward001> "wishlist" is easy to won'tfix 😔
[01:21] <lubot> <HMollerCl> question, is it possible to use kio-gdrive in lubuntu?
[01:21] <lubot> <HMollerCl> what would it need?
[01:24] <wxl> @HMollerCl dunno. i'd try installing it!
[01:24] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I installed it
[01:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> but couldn't make it run
[01:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://community.kde.org/KIO_GDrive
[01:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> kioclient5 exec gdrive:/
[01:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> gave me an error file not found /
[01:25] <wxl> what about just gdrive: ?
[01:27] <lubot> <HMollerCl> it's not in ubuntu repo, I was searching for soemthing that was
[01:27] <wxl> no i mean `kioclient5 exec grive:`
[01:28] <lubot> <HMollerCl> then the error was the same but without /
[01:29] <wxl> yeah i don't know. maybe track down support from them
[01:29] <wxl> what about in the network section of pcmanfm?
[01:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> didn't appear
[01:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> only "windows network"
[01:30] <guiverc> Lubuntu doesn't support PPC anymore do we?
[01:30] <wxl> nope
[01:31] <guiverc> thanks wxl, just foudn 4x ppc bugs..
[01:31] <wxl> woohoo!
[01:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> This is awfull... https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/intent-to-provide-chromium-as-a-snap-only/5987
[02:04] <lubot> <teward001> @HMollerCl this has been on the radar for a while now
[02:04] <lubot> <teward001> it's what blocked httpd for a few days
[02:04] <wxl> what? how? why?
[02:04] <lubot> <teward001> @wxl23 wxl: should read it
[02:04] <lubot> <teward001> in short:
[02:04] <lubot> <teward001> easier to update the snap than push repo packages with SRU, etc.
[02:05] <wxl> oh i get that, but i'm wondering about why it blocked httpd
[02:05] <lubot> <teward001> unrelated, i'm hungry back later
[02:05] <lubot> <teward001> oh
[02:05] <lubot> <teward001> wxl: that's because kopano-webapp relies on chromium and selenium for its tests
[02:05] <lubot> <teward001> kopano-webapp triggers its tests for any package providing httpd
[02:05] <lubot> <teward001> so APache, Lighttpd, NGINX were all impacted
[02:06] <wxl> jeez
[02:06] <lubot> <teward001> but we got the test badtested while it was dug into
[02:06] <lubot> <teward001> thank you for me being a persistent SOB 😛
[02:06] <lubot> <teward001> was how the chromium snap and stuff handled things different from packaged
[02:07] <lubot> <teward001> and isolation and stuff with snap isolations
[02:09] <lubot> <teward001> wxl: so it wasn't a direct impact, it was just how autopkgtests work
[02:12] <wxl> ic
[02:15] <wxl> guiverc: unfortunately kfontview is part of plasma-desktop :/
[02:15] <guiverc> wxl - i'll look more later at fonts, & more old-bugs - taking rest awhile (eyes & mouse-hand)
[02:15] <guiverc> :(  explains why I couldn't run it (but found heaps on kde sites about it)
[02:15] <guiverc> i'll look for somethign else later ; prompt me if I forget
[02:16] <wxl> i really wish they could pull out some of the pieces of plasma out. it really doesn't need to be that way
[02:17] <wxl> !info fontmanager.app
[02:17] <ubot93> fontmanager.app (0.1-1build3, eoan): Font manager for GNUstep. In component universe, is optional. Built by fontmanager.app. Size 56 kB / 350 kB
[02:17] <wxl> XD
[02:19] <wxl> !info fontypython | guiverc
[02:19] <ubot93> guiverc: fontypython (0.5-1, eoan): Find, view and manage font files of all kinds. In component universe, is optional. Built by fontypython. Size 180 kB / 830 kB
[02:19] <wxl> it' wxWidgets but looks like it would do the trick
[02:19] <wxl> ooooh python2 though
[02:19] <wxl> nevermind
[02:21] <guiverc> python2 still has some life https://pythonclock.org/ :)
[02:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Traceback (most recent call last): …   File "/usr/bin/dput", line 11, in <module> …     load_entry_point('dput===1.0.3ubuntu1', 'console_scripts', 'execute-dput')() …   File "/usr/share/dput/dput/dput.py", line 1032, in main …     config, check_only, check_version, unsigned_upload, debug) …   File "/usr/share/dput/dput/dput.py", lin
[02:36] <lubot> e 450, in verify_files …     % (distribution, host)) … dput.helper.dputhelper.DputUploadFatalException: Error: uploading files for distribution UNRELEASED to ppa not allowed.
[02:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> when trying to dput. Any ideas?
[02:36] <lubot> <teward001> you can't dput with UNRELEASED
[02:36] <lubot> <teward001> where're you uploading to @HMollerCl
[02:37] <lubot> <teward001> if it's a PPA, you have to change UNRELEASED -> an actual codename
[02:37] <lubot> <HMollerCl> a ppa I created
[02:37] <lubot> <teward001> use the target release
[02:37] <lubot> <teward001> eoan, for example, for current devel
[02:37] <lubot> <teward001> then `debuild -S` the package
[02:38] <lubot> <teward001> then change your changelog back to UNRELEASED for git and such
[02:39] <lubot> <HMollerCl> thanks!
[02:39] <lubot> <HMollerCl> didn't knew that
[02:41] <lubot> <teward001> now you do 😛
[02:44] <lubot> <HMollerCl> ok, so, here is the lubuntu-update -notifier
[02:45] <lubot> <HMollerCl> ppa:hmollercl/lubuntu-update-notifier
[02:45] <lubot> <HMollerCl> pelase test it.
[02:46] <wxl> ooo
[02:46] <wxl> link please
[02:49] <wxl> uhh i think we broke launchpad guiverc XD
[02:49] <guiverc> fyi:  i've got up to 14.04, but now getting launchpad errs (I've broken it; or maybe it thinks I'm a scammer - anyway it's an excuse for me to stop!)
[02:49] <wxl> hah see! me too!
[02:50] <wxl> i thought we'd actually catch up to one another too
[02:51] <lubot> <teward001> wxl: you broke it lol
[02:51] <guiverc> alas none of us are local to it; we can't give kick
[02:59] <lubot> <HMollerCl> wxl: ppa:hmollercl/lubuntu-update-notifier
[02:59] <lubot> <HMollerCl> https://launchpad.net/~hmollercl/+archive/ubuntu/lubuntu-update-notifier
[03:00] <guiverc> birdfont; gtk+ written in vala; no better than gnome's I suspect
[03:02] <guiverc> font: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/fontmanager.app - what's this, an appimage?
[03:02] <guiverc> fontmanager ^ is  gtk according to github anyway
[04:00] <guiverc> wxl, i guess i got to the 'middle' - i just got to one closed 2 hours ago by you..
[04:28] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [ppa:hmollercl/lubuntu-update-notifier], Waaaw!!
[06:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL825de7add175: Add how to enable/disable an output] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL825de7add175
[06:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdc5bc9d3341a: Add pavucontrol volume config] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdc5bc9d3341a
[10:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T90: Bionic locker should be light-locker] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90#1418
[18:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL59d26daff04c: Add locale numbers dropdown menu] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL59d26daff04c
[18:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T90: Bionic locker should be light-locker] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90#1419
[18:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T90: Bionic locker should be light-locker] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90#1420
[18:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe6881b2d9513: Add change of time format by advanced] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe6881b2d9513
[18:27] <wxl> @lynorian: is this still affecting you in e.g. bionic? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1436509
[18:27] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1436509 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (Ubuntu) "cursor not visible but mouse moves on first login after install" [High, New]
[18:29] <lynorian> wxl that machine is broken that motherboard died I don't think I reprodcued on toehr hardware
[18:29] <wxl> ok thx
[18:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6df2e7dd135d: Add currency format changing] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6df2e7dd135d
[18:41] <wxl> @HMollerCl best way to test this?
[18:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9ec4412cf82f: Add locale measurment units drop down] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9ec4412cf82f
[19:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3d3f3a34aa82: Add lock button to change channels] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3d3f3a34aa82
[19:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL83d916abf7b2: Add changing volume of each channel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL83d916abf7b2
[19:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6749d685db1c: Add mute input devices] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6749d685db1c
[19:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2cfbf9e2a572: Add back to one volume bar] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2cfbf9e2a572
[20:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcbfbe5543df8: Add latency offset] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcbfbe5543df8
[20:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL373cb82aa7b6: Descirbe changing channels better] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL373cb82aa7b6
[20:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc60faf6a0d1e: Add profile example] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc60faf6a0d1e
[20:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL040d748c6fd9: Add back to one slider] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL040d748c6fd9
[20:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6a7831b7cd1b: Add better screenshots with multiple outputs to output devices tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6a7831b7cd1b
[21:33] <lynorian> oh wow pavucontrol-qt has way more hidden options when you have multiple sound outputs
[21:34] <lubot> <kc2bez> I think there was a recent update.
[21:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL95018b5a881a: Add change whcih output for which application] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL95018b5a881a
[21:43] <lynorian> on 19.04?
[21:44] <lubot> <kc2bez> Now that you mention it, it might have been 19.10.
[21:44] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl best way to test this?], Install in eoan and wait till an update pops
[21:45] <lubot> <HMollerCl> In eoan because it has more updates
[22:13] <wxl> @HMollerCl will apt update trigger it?
[22:19] <lubot> <kc2bez> I logged out and logged back in and that triggered it.
[23:13] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl will apt update trigger it?], If you install it yes
[23:14] <wxl> huh, i can't get it to go for some reason
[23:14] <lubot> <HMollerCl> It has a bash script that runs every 1 hour and check if it's an update
[23:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Did you restart.?
[23:16] <wxl> didn't recognize that as a necessity
[23:16] <wxl> that's why i asked :)
[23:30] <wxl> it worked!
[23:30] <wxl> good job @HMollerCl!
[23:34] <wxl> as a suggestion: add an option to list packages available to upgrade before upgrading