[00:37] anyone here intrested in setting the backlight to lowest setting? or off? since the top does not go to 1% I'm thinking of making a app [00:40] @liberacuriser [], what is that? [00:41] @wayneoutthere ["OTA ETA = ASAP" - Jan, 2019], ikr 😂 [00:42] @Fuseteam [what is that?], Weblate :) [00:43] ah cool [00:44] @DC7IA [Also, the drop down bar with all the tabs is confusing... I wonder wether that w …], have tried swiping down from one of the icons? [00:44] @wayneoutthere ["OTA ETA = ASAP" - Jan, 2019], [Edit] ikr 😂 … also that looks like january 2019 😎 [00:49] @DC7IA [Also, the drop down bar with all the tabs is confusing... I wonder wether that w …], [Edit] have you tried swiping down from one of the icons at the top? [00:50] am [00:50] [Edit] that is my favorite part [00:51] whops, typing error :P [01:20] @dohbee PRs waiting on review on Unity8, I am lonely [01:25] @UniversalSuperBox [@dohbee PRs waiting on review on Unity8, I am lonely], approved/merged [01:27] Neat thanks [03:40] @dohbee [huh, seems that file is in the -gnome package], Which? [05:41] 余秉恩 was added by: 余秉恩 [06:29] hackneydave was added by: hackneydave [06:29] newbie here - completed installation on Nexus 5 [06:36] i'm looking for some documentation on app control and how to do the updates without disrupting the apps already installed [06:54] How YOU can create a Serverless API in C# and .NET https://dev.to/azure/how-you-can-create-a-serverless-api-in-c-and-net-1ie [06:57] Fwd from hackneydave: i'm looking for some documentation on app control and how to do the updates without disrupting the apps already installed [10:29] Wiz Ermi (B) 🔫 🏀💯 was added by: Wiz Ermi (B) 🔫 🏀💯 [10:29] (Photo, 1020x467) https://irc.ubports.com/HJkASF3t.png ✅ Participate - http://bit.ly/Margin_Service … ✅ Group - t.me/joinchat/MietDEvl29QRMawudFT_DA [10:52] @mateosalta [anyone here intrested in setting the backlight to lowest setting? or off? since …], Yep, I'd love to have it less bright [10:52] Yes, too many tabs... [11:04] (That's the thing that annoys me most while using Ubuntu Touch xD) [11:05] A lower minimum brightness modification sounds nice [11:06] On another note what was the reason for switching to a different browser from firefox? [11:08] cool, test this on your device in terminal [11:08] `sudo mirbacklight 1` [11:08] @TuxThePenguin [On another note what was the reason for switching to a different browser from fi …], I don't understand this, as we never used firefox [11:09] Really? I thought Ubuntu Touch versions before 16.04 used Firefox [11:09] then we can see how the brightness workson diffrent devices [11:09] @mateosalta [sudo mirbacklight 1], I'll test on my Axon 7 in a bit, I'm just testing a change to see if it fixes the WiFi on boot [11:09] @TuxThePenguin [Really? I thought Ubuntu Touch versions before 16.04 used Firefox], Nope [11:16] @TuxThePenguin [I'll test on my Axon 7 in a bit, I'm just testing a change to see if it fixes th …], cool working on a port? [11:18] @mateosalta [cool working on a port?], Yeah [11:25] Ok it lowers the "backlight" (OLED display) quite a bit although I'm not 100% sure if it goes below the bottom end of the slider [11:32] [Edit] Ok it lowers the "backlight" (OLED display) quite [11:32] [Edit] Ok it lowers the "backlight" (OLED display) quite a bit [13:02] For sync of my Nextcloud Calendar in would like to start "syncevolution" on CLI but how to know the right ,name ? The names printed with "—print-database" are show as Evolution Calendar and not CalDAV is this right ? [13:26] Hello, I have a problem with a tweak tools and sharing connaction via USB [13:27] is there a way to enable connection sharing otherwise? [13:27] via USB [13:28] [Edit] Hello, I have a problem with a tweak tools and sharing connection via USB [13:28] Ouaone was added by: Ouaone [14:34] Google thinks their upcoming OS Fushia or whatever will change history because unlike android , its multiplatform.... … But what Google don't know is that people neither hate Android … Or Whatever OS , People hate Google for their intrusion.... … Thanks to Ubports Linux and all other devs ... … Grateful to the community [14:34] [Edit] Google thinks their upcoming OS Fushia or whatever will change history because unlike android , its multiplatform.... … But what Google don't know is that people neither hate Android nor Whatever OS , People hate Google for their intrusion.... … Thanks to Ubports Linux and all other devs ... … Grateful to the community [14:35] [Edit] Google thinks their upcoming OS Fushia or whatever will change history because unlike android , its multiplatform.... … But what Google don't know is that people neither hate Android nor Whatever OS , People hate Google for their intrusion.... … Thanks to Ubports Linux and all other MobileOS devs ... … Grateful to the community [14:39] Peopple don't care privacy [15:15] @mimecar [Peopple don't care privacy], I disagree, I think they do, but only if you market it correctly. [15:15] It's a feature, not a necessity [15:22] Regarding Fuchsia, it is not GPL. Meaning no sources from hardware vendors. Meaning everything locked even more down. So when this happens custom roms will most probably have even harder time getting their os running on most devices. [15:48] Fuschia is nothing but an experiment [15:50] @samzn [Fuschia is nothing but an experiment], Who knows Mann what wil happen [15:54] @mimecar [Peopple don't care privacy], People increasingly care about privacy. There are people of course who will always say "I don't care what Google does with my data as long as I don't have to pay for using Google's services" but popularity of privacy-minded services / software is on rise. Just look up how many people switched from [15:54] Google to DuckDuckGo. [15:56] Yeah, but if they change search engines but keep Google's services for mail or similar things, it's not much use. [15:56] It's really disturbing how much Google knows about its users. It's no exaggeration to say that Google knows things about its users their spouses and partners don't know about. [15:57] who wants another google os anyway [15:57] unless they are google fan [15:57] @austenite [unless they are google fan], Google doesn't make systems for fans [15:57] I feel Amazon and eBay are the new Google. [15:58] there are google fans, these are custom rom communities that also flash Google app suite [15:59] @austenite [there are google fans, these are custom rom communities that also flash Google a …], .01% of the userbase, woo. [15:59] @samzn [.01% of the userbase, woo.], what? almost every custom rom user(lineage to rr) flash opengapps [16:00] @mimecar [Yeah, but if they change search engines but keep Google's services for mail or s …], True .... if you're starting to be aware of what Google and other big players are doing then merely changing your search engine isn't enough. Gmail is very powerful source of information about people and 30% of all data Google collects about [16:00] you is from your usage of Gmail. That's why I educated all my friends and loved ones to ditch Gmail and to either switch to ProtonMail or some other privacy-minded alternative. Same goes with one's usage of smartphone. [16:00] @austenite [what? almost every custom rom user(lineage to rr) flash opengapps], Custom ROM user are .01% of the userbase. [16:01] Ubuntu Touch has approximately 1800 users. Is that correct ? [16:03] @samzn [Custom ROM user are .01% of the userbase.], so the rest 99.99 already have google app suite [16:04] @austenite [so the rest 99.99 already have google app suite], Yup, google doesn't make systems for "enthusiasts", they do it for the broad audience [16:05] Isnt it down to the idividual, some people have apps that they 'cant live without'. This was not for me. I was lineage and fdroid before moving to UT. [16:05] @samzn [Yup, google doesn't make systems for "enthusiasts", they do it for the broad aud …], the point is who cares, that doesnt mean 'broad audience' is intelligent and everyone has to follow them [16:10] and everybody wants everything for no price, so they choose google which provides many services at no cost (such as GCP ) where many custom roms are being built [16:10] reminder that we have https://t.me/UBportsOF for such lengthy conversations not directly related to UT [16:12] @zubozrout [Regarding Fuchsia, it is not GPL. Meaning no sources from hardware vendors. Mean …], This is really no different from current kernel being GPL. Manufacturers already use proprietary drivers, and don't comply with the GPL. So Fuschia being Apache isn't really going to change anything in that respect. [16:12] Thanks for always being helpful Rodney 🙃 [16:15] @dohbee [This is really no different from current kernel being GPL. Manufacturers already …], At least they release their kernel sources, you can edit and compile it and use the proprietary drivers with that. That will no longer work. Not to mention the majority if not every current custom phone OS is Linux based and Fuchsia is not. [16:17] @zubozrout [At least they release their kernel sources, you can edit and compile it and use …], The Fuscia kernel source is available. But it doesn't matter for us. We support Linux and not Fuchsia. [16:17] Building a distro on top of Fuchsia is not what we're doing with UT [16:18] Harware vendors always make changes to the kernel. Those won't get released. Anyway, you are correct. Just saying that when Android is Fuchsia based (if ever) custom os on a Fuchsia phone will be quite a challenge. [16:20] they aren't getting released most of the time anyway, which is why we can only support so few devices [16:20] but custom ROMs will still be a thing, because most of those don't need to change the kernel anyway. they just need to build AOSP images with whatever custom apps they have and such [16:21] but again, nothing to do with UT at that point, and we can't support it anyway [16:21] @zubozrout [Harware vendors always make changes to the kernel. Those won't get released. Any …], Nah [16:21] The SoC will have a Linux BSP [16:56] @deepinlnx [Google thinks their upcoming OS Fushia or whatever will change history because u …], The shocking truth about Google: People don't care. [16:56] We're pretty much an exception. [16:56] @DC7IA [The shocking truth about Google: People don't care.], They care about the wrong shit [16:57] @USERMANE_OXLONG [They care about the wrong shit], Ubports is a niche that fills the needs we have, not to say those who aren't using it are "wrong" [17:00] Yeah really, no need to be elitist about your mobile OS [17:02] @samzn [Ubports is a niche that fills the needs we have, not to say those who aren't usi …], How ever... [17:19] @TuxThePenguin [Ok it lowers the "backlight" (OLED display) quite a bit], intresting, so maybe not a phone specific oversight then [17:23] @mateosalta [intresting, so maybe not a phone specific oversight then], no, indicator-power sets brightness via powerd, so the minimum and maximum levels are whatever get reported through there [17:23] @UniversalSuperBox [Yeah really, no need to be elitist about your mobile OS], Purism Librem or bust [17:23] (Sticker, 512x438) https://irc.ubports.com/8l8juRqJ.webp [17:24] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Ps8L0CZF.webp [17:25] :-/ [17:25] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/zsBPM3BZ.webp [17:25] Lol ok I'm done haha [17:31] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/lP07wMCt.webp [17:31] @dohbee [no, indicator-power sets brightness via powerd, so the minimum and maximum level …], yeah, so i think it comes back to a purposful design choice then [17:34] @samzn [], you've been asked many times to stop using these stickers in this community, yet you continue to be disrespectful by persisting, and by stating unhelpful misinformation to people asking questions about UT when they come in here. please delete this sticker and stop. [17:34] @mateosalta [yeah, so i think it comes back to a purposful design choice then], i don't think so. that is an assumption [17:34] Why are you so aggressive, jesus christ [17:35] why are you posting white supremacist stickers in here. [17:35] ?? [17:35] What [17:35] ?? [17:38] @samzn [??], in the USA the "Pepe the Frog" memes have been coopted by so called "alt-right" ethno-nationalist trolls - so some folks find the images offensive these days. [17:38] I don't know anything about that [17:39] @TotalSonic [in the USA the "Pepe the Frog" memes have been coopted by so called "alt-right" …], the creator of Pepe has even separated himself from it at this point, it's so bad [17:39] @samzn [I don't know anything about that], well, now you know the back story [17:39] Rodney keeps attacking me for any action I try to do and it's honestly disgusting [17:40] I don't know if he has any personal grudge or if I have done anything, but if I have, I am sorry [17:40] nobody keeps attacking you [17:40] you keep being offended when people are asked to respect the community [17:40] You keep calling me a liar when I am just answering some confusion. [17:41] [Edit] You keep calling me a liar when I am just answering to some confusion. [17:41] This isn't the first time [17:41] @samzn [Rodney keeps attacking me for any action I try to do and it's honestly disgustin …], Rodney is an administrator here, and a regular contributor to the improvements in UT's code - so what he requests is good to heed if you wish to continue to post. [17:41] i did not call you a liar. [17:42] And this is escalating beyond measures, again. [17:42] then please leave [17:42] if you can't stay on topic, avoid posting trollish/racist memes, and can't respect the community's rules, why are you here? [17:42] this is supposed to be a forum very focused solely on UT - not a "free speech" zone [17:43] @dohbee [if you can't stay on topic, avoid posting trollish/racist memes, and can't respe …], Because I am interesting in UBports, have contributed to it, use it, and never acted with a troll/racist behaviour? [17:44] @dohbee [if you can't stay on topic, avoid posting trollish/racist memes, and can't respe …], [Edit] Because I am interested in UBports, have contributed to it, use it, and never acted with a troll/racist behaviour? [17:44] I don't think having a fuss over stickers is a goos idea [17:44] [Edit] I don't think having a fuss over stickers is a good idea [17:45] it wasn't sent with any offense meant [17:46] @NotKit [it wasn't sent with any offense meant], that is an assumption. you wouldn't go walking around germany waving a nazi flag and be all "no offense meant" as if it somehow granted you the right to do it. [17:46] especially after having been asked repeatedly to not do so every previous time you did it [17:46] Okay, you don't like cartoon frogs, I got that. [17:46] I'll respect that. [17:47] Now if you could, I would appreciate if you could stop being so acid towards people. [17:47] i don't like symbols of white supremacy/nationalism/naziism/etc… [17:47] you are getting personal for no reason [17:47] I'm not the one that escalates it every time [17:47] But it doesn't matter anymore [17:48] That pack of stickers has a negative connotation. It is enough not to use them. [17:48] "please don't do this thing" is not an escalation [17:48] if you think it is, perhaps the problem lies within yourself [17:48] I do not see the reason that this conversation is getting out of hand. [17:49] @dohbee [if you think it is, perhaps the problem lies within yourself], So you just mentioned to not get personal, which I never have except asking if I ever done you a thing and you hint at a personal attack towards me. [17:49] @mimecar [I do not see the reason that this conversation is getting out of hand.], Yepppppp [17:49] JFC [18:06] @samzn [But it doesn't matter anymore], that sticker was offically desiginated a hate symbol by anti-defamation legue, plus the creator of the frog was suing people for using it [18:07] @DC7IA [Yes, too many tabs...], i think i misunderstood what i mean hmmm try to swipe down starting from the battery icon [18:08] @Sconio [Hello, I have a problem with a tweak tools and sharing connection via USB], sharing connection as in usb tethering? [18:17] what in the— all this over a frog [18:18] [Edit] what in the— all this over a frog sticker [18:22] this like the time i discovered a thumbs up mean FU in turkey [18:23] or a ok gesture meaning 'you are worth nothing' in brasil [18:24] @Fuseteam [this like the time i discovered a thumbs up mean FU in turkey], yeah - I often post that emoji - but I do worry that it will be taken wrong by some on an international forum [18:26] there are plenty of stickers and emoji that have an negative connoctation elsewhere the trick is to not assume the negative meaning unless the context points to that being the intention [18:26] context is everything in those situation [18:26] [Edit] context is everything in those situations [18:26] @Fuseteam [what in the— all this over a frog sticker], 🤷‍♀️ [18:27] i see no context to point to it being intended to be offensive but hey that's my take on it [18:31] @UniversalSuperBox [No, that's the only resolution where you could run both the internal and externa …], Will it be possible to send a Libertine screen to a Miracast WiFi Display? [18:35] uhhh probably? if it supports miracast i'm sure that anything that can be opened on the phone screen can be send to a miracast screen [18:39] Asis was added by: Asis [18:53] @Fuseteam [sharing connection as in usb tethering?], yes [18:57] @Fuseteam [uhhh probably? if it supports miracast i'm sure that anything that can be opened …], When I start a Libertine app, the phone screen is blank, so I think it's trying to send to a remote screen. [18:57] Also there's a difference between screen mirroring the phone resolution versus casting the desktop resolution. [18:58] @John (Marlin) [When I start a Libertine app, the phone screen is blank, so I think it's trying …], Did you try adjusting your muffler bearings? 😁 [18:58] @Stebomurkn420 [Did you try adjusting your muffler bearings? 😁], lol! What brings you in this way!?! [18:59] @John (Marlin) [lol! What brings you in this way!?!], I've been in here. Like to check in on the progress from time to time. Good stuff being done here. And well their vodcast [18:59] Plus very friendly! [19:00] @Stebomurkn420 [I've been in here. Like to check in on the progress from time to time. Good stuf …], Wireless display is broken on hammerhead. I'm thinking PinePhone will work better. [19:00] @John (Marlin) [Wireless display is broken on hammerhead. I'm thinking PinePhone will work bette …], You've come to live by that wireless display stuff. Haha [19:01] @Stebomurkn420 [You've come to live by that wireless display stuff. Haha], Convergence is just kind of a curiosity. I really can't see carrying a bluetook keyboard and miracast adaptor to try to find someplace to do work instead of just taking a laptop. [19:01] Plus it will be a long time before phones match laptop power. [19:02] @John (Marlin) [Plus it will be a long time before phones match laptop power.], You think? Lol [19:02] Idomt [19:02] Well, some of these new phones have monster ram. [19:02] @John (Marlin) [Well, some of these new phones have monster ram.], Riiiight. Lmao [19:03] Anywho just checking in. Lata! [19:03] Yeah, let's go back to the towers to play. [19:08] @dohbee [if you can't stay on topic, avoid posting trollish/racist memes, and can't respe …], What makes you think you have the right to command people like this? Shut the frog up and get off your high horse. [19:12] I start to get the feeling I'll have to silence someone, which I prefer not having to do [19:41] @Kamakurako [What makes you think you have the right to command people like this? Shut the fr …], You have already expressed you have no valid interest here and are only here to troll and make stupid comments. If you can't respect the community either, why are you here? Just leave. [19:42] @dohbee [You have already expressed you have no valid interest here and are only here to …], I obviously do have an interest otherwise I wouldn't be here. Idk why you feel the need to be a baby about everything Sam, I or others say. Get a grip dude. [19:42] @Fuseteam [sharing connection as in usb tethering?], ''' [19:43] You just cause drama because you have nothing better to do with your life. Get a hobby or a job or something. [19:43] @Kamakurako [I obviously do have an interest otherwise I wouldn't be here. Idk why you feel t …], If you can't respect the rules of the community, and must have a temper tantrum every time community admins/elders ask people to behave, then you clearly do not belong in this community [19:44] @Kamakurako [You just cause drama because you have nothing better to do with your life. Get a …], @UniversalSuperBox Can you just ban this person already? [19:44] @dohbee [If you can't respect the rules of the community, and must have a temper tantrum …], Nobody has asked me to do anything, only you. [19:44] Just stop causing issues for the sake of causing issues. [19:49] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/KfhVop1b.webp [19:49] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/vYMLwLh2.webp [19:49] (Sticker, 307x512) https://irc.ubports.com/YVqMfE0b.webp [19:50] We are missing the hear no evil. [19:51] Ah, they told the artist to stop monkeying around [19:51] Which is why you don't have that one 🐸 [19:53] @fredldotme [I start to get the feeling I'll have to silence someone, which I prefer not havi …], Agree it's not preferable, but it is sometimes necessary, especially for people who contribute nothing valuable, and only ever make personal attacks or post off-topic nonsense. [19:54] Dude, thats literally all you do here. [19:55] All involved have been muted for a week. [20:30] phew... a lot people were involved... :-) [20:31] [Edit] phew... many people were involved... :-) [20:43]