[00:06] There are tons of things in that recent update. I'm not even sure what to look at. [00:09] I don't see anything that gnupg depends on in that file though. [00:10] greps for "gnu" "gpg" and "dirmngr" didn't find anything. [00:12] what is wrong with your system, is it mounted RO? [00:16] As far as I know nothing else is wrong with my system. I am able to write to disk. [00:23] Guest77239: does "gpgp --list-secret-keys" report all you'd expect? [00:23] Guest77239: oops, "gpg" not gpgp" [00:26] TJ-: no, it doesn't. It doesn't print anything and exits with a status code of 127. [00:28] Guest77239: there's your problem then; time to pull out your key backups [00:29] Guest77239: you might get some clue as to the cause of the error code with strace [00:29] TJ-: well I see the key files in ~/.gnupg. [00:30] It appears as if everything on disk is fine. [00:30] Guest77239: that doesn't mean the contents aren't corrupted [00:30] That's true. Let me diff them against my backups [00:30] Guest77239: as I said, strace may give useful clues [00:40] What should I be looking for in the strace output? [00:41] I see it accessing some of the files I would expect it to access. [00:42] pubring.gpg, pubring.kbx, secring.gpg, trustdb.gpg... [00:45] Black screen if I end a session and reopen it (via gdm) with the hdmi cable and then an external monitor connected. The screen remains black and I am forced to open another terminal and reboot. All this does not occur if I use Wayland instead of xorg, where everything works properly. How can I find the culprit? What records should I investigate? So maybe I can create an issue. I'm on Ubuntu 19.04 and I use the gdm [00:45] and gnome standards. [00:56] TJ-: I ended up just re-importing everything from my backup. Disturbing not knowing what happened to the keys, but something must have corrupted them. After importing files from my backup everything works fine. [01:09] does Linux have anything like the lockf(1) command? [01:10] https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=lockf&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+12.0-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch=default&format=html for those who aren't familiar [01:25] oh, i guess flock(1) === zbenjamin is now known as Guest46569 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:36] gonna rename my system to "griefer" soon... === Mr-Potter|Drunk is now known as Mr-Potter [01:47] "root@ubuntu:~# file --brief /dev/mmcblk2 && echo kill MBR >/dev/mmcblk2¶ block special (179/24)¶ bash: /dev/mmcblk2: Read-only file system" <- Why? File systems shouldn't be relevant when I write directly to a block device. The web tells me how to unlock SD cards but this is a MicroSD card, I can't find a physical toggle on it. [01:48] also there's no SD adapter involved. the drive accepts microSD only. [01:52] the error persists even after hdparm -r0, even though hdparm -r now shows readonly = 0 (off) [01:56] I have a really strange question, and it pertains to Secure Boot. [01:56] How does Ubuntu handle it? [01:56] communist punch [01:56] just like any other linux branch [01:57] Funny. But I actually would like to understand. [01:57] its not the eighties [01:58] technology has gone a long way [01:58] buy me cheesesticks later [01:59] Right. Let me actually explain the problem I am having. IN most Ubuntu installations some key files from Canonical is usually provided for an EFI installation to be functional and not invoke a Secure Boot violation, yes? [01:59] the microSD problem seems to be with the drive. using another drive, I was able to write to the card. [01:59] Except, System76 are a bunch of idiots who didn't implement this means fo making Secure Boot viable, and it requires Secure Boot to be turned off in order to use the system. [01:59] the only problem you are having is the plug [02:00] up there [02:00] So this brings me to an impasse where I need to fiddle with my BIOS in order to boot into Pop!_OS which uses Ubuntu's stuff as a base. [02:01] Everybody else is saying that it's impossible for me to resolve this. I think not; if Canonical can figure it out, why can't I make Secure Boot work in anything else that uses Ubuntu's stuff? [02:01] tiox, maybe you could use another computer to sign the EFI whatever yourself, and then tell the BIOS to trust that signature? [02:02] tiox, if Canonical's key would be accepted, it would probably be because the BIOS shipped with it trusted. [02:02] How can i "Sign" the EFI after installation then? [02:02] the secure boot bioses I've seen so far defaulted to only trust microsoft. [02:03] BTW totally me being lazy and not using Google, but also I don't even know where to begin. [02:04] first try whether you really have to. in one of my EFI config utilities (I learned it's not a BIOS), I could just select EFI options and mark them as trusted, as long as the BIOS had an admin password configured. [02:11] so I tried to see in lshw what kind of microSD drive I have, whether I need a better driver, but all it shows is "product: xHCI Host Controller" / "vendor: Linux 4.15.0-29-generic xhci-hcd" [02:11] using a bionic live session [02:11] I'll try with windows to see whether it's a hardware problem. [02:13] actually I could try installing Ubuntu via my USB card reader, and use that ubuntu from a read-only drive. I'd just need to boot it from the USB card reader for updates or config changes. === [b0b] is now known as b0b [02:58] Hi Where are you from Sven_vB ? [02:59] Just curious [02:59] let's query as it's off-topic here. [03:18] Good evening everyone. [03:23] whats that app that is like windirstat where it breaks down dirs graphically and by heatmap? [03:26] qdirstat [03:27] ahh yisss [03:27] tyvm [03:29] repo version is pretty old === _Stifler is now known as Stifler [03:32] kinghat, is there some reason you need a newer one? dirstat is dirstat [03:34] i need that new new [03:37] kinghat: new new == eoan (misc): graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities [universe] ; 3.1.3-1: amd64 arm64 armhf i386 ppc64el s390x . [03:37] !info dirstat disco [03:37] Package dirstat does not exist in disco [03:38] qdirstat [03:38] it couldnt resolve the deps so it wont work anyways [03:40] kinghat: ^^ wrong paste anyways - https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/qdirstat . [03:43] Bashing-om: ya i tried to install it and it said it "couldnt resolve the dependencies." [03:44] . [03:45] kinghat: What release are you working .. and if dependencies can not be reolved when strickly working the offical repo then a bug report is warrented. [03:46] im on beaver [03:47] 1.5.91 deb is what i tried [03:47] qdirstat_1.5.90-1_amd64.deb [03:49] kinghat: That is a 19.10 package ,, sure to break libc6 - Ouch ! [03:49] Bashing-om: its no biggie. unless im doing something silly wrong. ive already installed the version from repo. [03:50] kinghat: :) ,, repo version " Version: 1.4-2 [03:54] ya that version === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit [06:29] anyone have a link to getting hdmi audio to work? [06:31] what problem are you having? [06:31] it just.... "won't work" ? [06:31] yeah the volume control shows levels [06:31] but nothing coming out of the speaker [06:32] where on your computer is the hdmi port? [06:32] part of a graphics board? [06:32] built in [06:35] hmmm. no i usually have no problem by the time i've gotten where you're at [06:36] there;s no "hdmi audio " in the "output devices" [06:36] only headphones [06:36] there isn't one? oh [06:37] well then you'll probably need to install a driver. it's likely intel graphics [06:37] weird that the "additional drivers" thing didn't catch that [06:38] there's a few things i think you need to check on first... [06:38] i'm bound for bed. really tired and not thinking too clearly [06:38] !intel [06:38] i also don't know much about intel graphics drivers [06:38] that's ok i know what i am looking for now [06:38] !graphics-drivers |geneswitch [06:39] i just realized that lspci didn't show a graphics card [06:39] that's if you even have an intel GPU driving that port [06:39] yeah it's off the atom CPU [06:39] it's an iGPU 600 or whatever they call it [06:40] well, good night to you. hope you find something [06:48] well, somehow ubuntu hosed everything on xfce4, i lost the bottom bar and the top bar [06:48] but sound is working now [06:52] xfce-panel === mouses is now known as longcat [07:46] cant remember how to get a deb package from pull-lp-source === longcat is now known as mouses [08:06] I'm having issues with suspend on my laptop. If it stays suspended for some prolonged time, it wont wake up. When I press power buttom to wake it, power led starts to blink randomly, and I have to hard reboot it by holding down power button. [08:08] The laptop is dell latitude, it has no discrete gpu, only intel [08:08] I'm on 19.04 [08:11] How do I debug the issue? I don't see any suspend related info in system logs [08:11] fastfresh, when it's locked up; have you tried magic-sysrq keys to force clean shutdown (instead of power button, ie. is kernel running?) [08:11] fastfresh: see if you have some scpi issues [08:11] Hey guys, i've installed 18.04 and there's no audio coming out. Well according to pavcucontrol it is but i can't hear anything. [08:11] pulseaudio output is [08:11] E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. [08:11] fastfresh: * acpi - check acpi related records in journalctl -b [08:11] E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed. [08:12] alsactl init [08:12] whoa, why i didn't know about "checkinstall" earlier... in the rare occasion i need to compile newer versions of some applications manually this tools is really awesome as it converts the make install to deb file automatically making guaranteed uninstallation to work. [08:13] fastfresh: also see journalctl -b-1 -e to find out whether anything was logged when you tried to return from susupend [08:14] New SSD Issue (msata & sata, internal & usb enclosure) - formatted both, but not detecting/reading properly. Running 19.04 on a Dell Latitude E7440. Here's the details: https://i.imgur.com/quhRTC3.png [08:21] >also see journalctl -b-1 -e [08:21] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/T3vrW2Fb/ [08:21] suspend entry is the last line [08:23] There are indeed some ACPI related errors, but I'm not sure what do they mean [08:23] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/R3iXsiB1/ [08:24] And I'm not sure if they are related to the problem [08:24] How to get Msata via usb enclosure working properly? And is there a way to make Sata via usb enclsure more 'stable' so it detects/mounts everytime [not just sometimes]? -thx [08:25] fastfresh: so indeed it did not wake up fully. feel free to share the full current log so we can look for problems together: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [08:26] fastfresh: in case you prefe rnot to share the full log, please show journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:' so we'll know which hardware you have there exactly. [08:31] Bob-Obo: what do you mean by "sata via usb enclosure"? [08:32] `Jul 14 11:29:36 workstation kernel: DMI: Dell Inc. Latitude 7280/0KK5D1, BIOS 1.14.1 04/03/2019` [08:36] tomreyn: that's how it's being connected. I was testing 2 ssd's connected via 2 methods (msata and sata / connected via internal secondary bay, or connected via usb external enclosure device) [08:40] guiverc: Can't do this, no sysrq key on my laptop [08:42] fastfresh, on newer dell keyboards the sysrq key isn't marked but still works; i've seen like on another newer make (no key marked but it it works as expected) [08:42] fastfresh: so you have th latest BIOS installed already. then i guess yuo could try TJ-'s workaround for acpi issues https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [08:44] Bob-Obo: okay. but you're aware that sata / msata hot plugging may not be possible - you didn't attach these on the running system? [08:46] fastfresh: it's probbaly the 'print' key, combined with altgr (right hand alt), maybe with extra ctrl (if the key is just labelled 'alt') [08:46] fastfresh: you can test this using the H sysrq key, which prints its help to a tty. [08:47] !tty [08:47] To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [08:54] tomreyn: I wasn't aware that couldn't be done. Forgive me if I'm wrong b/c still very novice but I don't see why not possible... both can connect internally, and both can connect via an external enclosure, so I just figured of course its possible. Yes I did attach these (only testing one at a time.. If A was connected internally, B was being tested via usb enclosure. And vice-versa.) I did connect them on the running system, which seems to work for the [08:54] Sata but not the Msata. I also tried connecting them while powered off then rebooting with them connected (independently, 2 different tests) and both times would be stuck on startup Ubuntu splashpage until I unplugged it, then the machine would finish booting up, and I would then connect the usb enclosure drive, and if it was the msata it wouldnt detect, but if it was the sata then most times it would detect/mount properly, while the system was running. [08:54] Full details in the screenshot I provided. [08:56] Ok, thanks, I will try this windows trick. [08:58] Bob-Obo: mainboards may support hot-plugging sata devices, but most of the time this is disabled by default. i'm not certain whether ubuntu will always be able to detect hot-plugging of these automatically or whether you need to manually query the bus in some cases. [08:58] Do you think this could be related to secure boot? I've read that systems with secure boot are not allowed to hibernate because security. Maybe it's trying to hibernate while suspended? [08:59] how would I manually query the bus if needed? [08:59] fastfresh: uefi settings can influence things, like network card or graphics for example [09:00] fastfresh: but i dont think thats your case [09:02] fastfresh: i'm not sure whether hibernation is considered to break secureboot. secureboot certainly introduces more complexity and it's not rare that mainboard firmwares run into bugs they would not run into when its disabled. generelly, i'd recommend to suspend to ram rather than disk if you'd like a good user experience (faster recovery). [09:04] Bob-Obo: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tomreyn/scripts/master/rescan_scsi [09:05] fastfresh: looks like hibernation is not possible with secure boot enabled https://askubuntu.com/questions/1106105/18-04-hibernate-with-uefi-and-secure-boot-enabled [09:07] Yes, i've already read this. That's what made me think it might be related to SB. [09:07] `systemctl hibernate` reports hibernation not supported [09:08] `systemctl suspend` suspends as expected [09:10] and resumes from suspend as well? [09:10] Yes. But if it stays suspended too long it wont resume. That's my problem. [09:11] I have disabled sb and put that windows string into boot line, will check back in an hour to see if it survives [09:11] tomreyn: thx much [09:11] maybe you have a setting in your 'BIOS' where the mainboard firmware will set the system into a lower power state after a while of suspend-to-disk to prevent the battery from draining. [09:12] yw Bob-Obo, but keep in mind you'll need the firmware to support it first of all [09:14] tomreyn: ok I saw they both had software for each on their websites, but they were for mac or windows only. [09:15] fastfresh: i don't think it's ubuntu that switches the system into a deeper power state there a while after reaching suspend-to-ram. it just couldn't do that at this point, unless woken up by the firmware. [09:17] Yes, that makes sense [09:21] Bob-Obo: i see. so i guess it's possible, either by this software enabling the functionality (such as by writing to some MSR), or by default. [09:36] gmorning gentlemen [09:37] tomreyn: MSR? [09:37] good morning abbie [09:37] how can we help you this morning abbie [09:37] im waiting for my turn [09:37] abbie: there are no turns here, you can ask in the channel [09:38] Bob-Obo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-specific_register [09:38] thx [09:38] i recently did a full upgrade [09:39] and having pavucontrol isssues [09:39] abbie: whats your ubuntu version and kernel please? [09:39] pulseaudio outputs sound [09:39] but the mixer keeps respawning as if i did not have sound [09:41] nevermind [10:08] Bob-Obo: i just discussed a bit with ##hardware folks - there was at least one person saying that they'd expect sata hotplugging to work on linux *desktops* (not sure about laptops) whether or not the firmware has it set to enabled (though it would be better to enable the setting where available). so all you should need to do then is to rescan the bus. and if this doesn't work, keep in mind that on some boards connecting devices to msata ports [10:08] disables some sata ports and the other way around. [10:08] and that you should cross-test sata cables [11:50] hi [11:51] i dont know if it is ubuntu related issue but may i ask about vscode running on ubuntu 18.04 ? [12:01] How do I find out exactly which filesystem my drive is formatted to? [12:03] Bob-Obo, sudo parted -l ; lsblk -f [12:03] mount [12:03] df -T . [12:05] Bob-Obo, you can also check /etc/fstab [12:07] mount | awk -F" " '{print $3 , "|", $5 }' | grep -v cgroup [12:07] ioria: sometime not in fstab [12:08] really ? [12:08] might as well do that grep with awk [12:09] ioria: > if you plug an usb key . she-s not in fstab [12:09] :) [12:09] i was trying to enable fingerprint on ubuntu 18.04 by " sudo apt install -y fprintd libpam-fprintd " and "sudo pam-auth-update" but it doesnt work [12:09] ircarcs, ofc [12:09] in settings i enabled and trying to enroll my finger but it is stuck on enroll setting. [12:10] now fingerprint device is getting too hot on my laptop [12:10] what can i do? [12:11] i hope it doesnt burn anything [12:11] i cant close the window now [12:11] oh finally closed [12:11] but something is wrong, how can i fix it? [12:13] :~$ lsusb > Bus 004 Device 002: ID 08ff:2810 AuthenTec, Inc. AES2810 [12:13] device is recognised but i cant set it [12:20] howdy folks [12:26] geirha: actually i dont know awk but what i used , you're right. i ll try to learn [12:27] awk '$5 != "cgroups" { print $3" | "$5 }' [12:28] thanks :) [12:29] geirha: not good not bad but probably both > this project > https://tldr.sh/ [12:41] ioria: thx [12:41] ok [13:13] The ethernet port on my device doesn't seem to be working (the Tx/Rx lights don't go up). The device name (eth0/eno1) isn't being detected by commands like ethtool, however its being detected by others. [13:13] I am trying to connect a raspberry pi via an ethernet cable and everything seems to be fine on its side. Ifconfig/dmesg/ethtool output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3dsqGwDrQk/ LSHW output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/prjmsMwng4/ [13:14] I don't think I have altered the ethernet drivers, however I have installed/compiled an external wireless driver. What can I do about this? [13:17] terpin: you could try installing r8168-dkms [13:18] lets see [13:23] Rebooting [13:28] jeremy31: Thanks! I knew this problem would have a one minute solution. [13:29] had been on this for about an hour and a half [13:30] Hopefully that driver will fix it [13:31] I think the port used to work with that driver before I upgraded ubuntu [13:38] good morning [13:38] welcome coz_ [13:39] how can we help you today? [13:44] lotuspsychje, well cant help right now , just thought I would say good morning ") [13:49] 'morning coz_ [13:58] www.nohello.com [13:59] BluesKaj, hey ") [14:00] I install ubunut in a docker tzdata ask me about configuration. Is there a way to prevent it to prompt the user? [14:00] I mean preventing this https://i.imgur.com/Tk4LgSc.png [14:01] docker is designed for single process / app containerization, how did you install and run a whole distro in it? [14:01] blackflow I mean I take a ubuntu image of docker and I add some stuff in there [14:01] I derive my own Dockerfile [14:06] or what do you mean? [14:15] This is absolutely retarted [14:15] people work so that one can automate installations [14:15] and some idiots come and break everything with a pointless question [14:15] renn0xtk9: this isnt the complaints channel [14:16] renn0xtk9: focus on actual ubuntu issues instead please [14:16] Hello. I've used rsync to copy a set of files/folders from HostA to HostB, moved and renamed things on HostB and want to sync the changes back to HostA. It appears that rsync cannot simply move and rename files, and instead wants to copy all the changed files/folders back leaving me with two copies on HostA. Is there any other tool I can use that will simply move/rename files as necessary on HostA without leaving me with two copies? [14:16] renn0xtk9, I have never used docker so I dont think I can help, but I was a bit confused about the issue [14:20] try git ? [14:20] Antioch: rsync has a "--delete" option. [14:21] Antioch: THat will "clean" your tree on HostA. [14:21] Antioch: But the renamed files will get copied anyways because rsync has no checksum machanism to find file duplicates. [14:22] Antioch: There's also "unison". It will track changes for you but afaik it might also copy a renamed file. [14:22] Antioch: And then there's git, of course. [14:23] renn0xtk9, did you try to join #docker channel? [14:23] renn0xtk9, nevermind, I see you are already there [14:23] not yet. It seems to me at first glance that -yq does not behave the same with apt ant apt-get [14:23] vlt, thank you! [14:23] can it be? [14:35] I have a netbook that shall run Ubuntu bionic, and I'm in a bionic live session. the BIOL before I take the effort to install Ubuntu, I'd like to try install a bootloader [14:35] sorry sent too early [14:36] I have a netbook that shall run Ubuntu bionic, and I'm in a bionic live session. the BIOS-like EFI utility doesn't like me much (or at least it doesn't like SuperGrub), so before I take the effort to install Ubuntu, I'd like to try install a bootloader to see a failure message to the effect of "I would have booted Ubuntu now, if there was any." what would you suggest? [14:38] Sven_vB: what brand is this netbook? [14:38] renn0xtk9, I guess so. the man page of apt doesn't even have -y. [14:39] lotuspsychje, Acer Aspire Switch SW5-012. I even had to compile some special version of GRUB to get the live session to boot. [14:39] this is the tutorial I used https://gist.github.com/mk-pmb/512a8105d3b39e55152c7fda248cd976 [14:41] I've tried bootctl install and it looked like it had successfully installed a Linux Boot Manager, but when I boot w/o the USB thumb drive, "No Bootable Device" [14:43] Sven_vB: are you trying uefi or legacy? [14:44] I also renamed the microsoft stuff on the EFI partition and placed the SuperGrub EFI files instead, same [14:44] lotuspsychje, I'd like legacy, but I can't get the BIOS-like config program to allow that, so instead I'm trying EFI. [14:46] maybe I should try supergrub + my custom GRUB EFI [14:46] wonder why it cant go legacy [14:47] probably same why the Config Utility won't accept navigation via arrow keys: they reeeeally want me to acknowledge how futuristic they are. (e.g. the only way to navigate the config utility quickly is by touching the screen.) [14:48] to the point that you can't even confirm the BIOS admin password with return, no, you have to click ok [14:49] and each time I get the "No Bootable Device" error, it tries to help me by resetting all settings to factory default, reeealy annoying as well. [14:50] I'm so glad I got this one for free, so I know to never _buy_ an Acer Switch. [14:52] oh yeah and I did update the config utility this week, so it's not like they'd be fixing such stuff. [14:52] Sven_vB: maybe you cant switch to legacy without a bios update or so? [14:52] probably no-one at Acer uses the either, or they'd have found out their onscreen keyboard blocks the ok button [14:53] Sven_vB: try to set the supervisor password, maybe you can also switch then [14:53] lotuspsychje, right, some blogs said that. the config utility update claimed to have included a BIOS update, and it indeed increased the "BIOS version" on the info screen. [14:53] yes I do have a supervisor password [14:53] and yes that was required to disable secure boot [14:54] hmm weird you cant still legacy then [14:54] did you reboot after setting legacy [14:54] yeah. or maybe it just has a weird name so I didn't find it? [14:54] I don't find any option to select legacy [14:55] should be when you choose uefi/legacy [14:55] however, if the live session USB boots, there's gotta be a way to pwn the disk as well. [14:55] I'll reboot and see if I can find such a combo option [14:55] ok [14:55] good luck [14:55] shall I make photos of the config screens? [14:56] Sven_vB: if you want [14:57] Sven_vB: https://itsfoss.com/no-bootable-device-found-ubuntu/ [14:59] thanks, I'll read [15:00] oh if I go legacy I probably need to reconfigure the BIOS-like utility if I want to boot Windows 10, right? in that case I should stay with EFI [15:00] Sven_vB: are you going to dualboot? [15:01] yeah, at least sometimes. like yesterday when I needed to know whether the SD card malfunction was a problem with Ubuntu or the hardware. [15:01] in those cases it's nice to be able to compare [15:02] !uefi | Sven_vB might wanna read this then [15:02] Sven_vB might wanna read this then: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [15:03] Sven_vB: or talk to EriC^^ later, he's our uefi expert === yhm12345 is now known as ted1 === ted1 is now known as yhm12345 [15:06] will do [15:19] hi, I compiled and installed a package, now I need to make a -devel version, how to do that without adding source repo and other stuff [15:21] anyone alive here? [15:21] aneon: are you contributing to an ubuntu package? [15:21] !ask | Br|aN [15:21] Br|aN: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [15:25] ok my vps is running ubuntu 14.04 and i do the do upgrade thing adn it wont upgrade any other way to upgrade it [15:26] !14.04 | Br|aN [15:26] Br|aN: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 25th, 2019. Paid support (ESM) is available. See also !esm, !eol, !eolupgrade [15:26] lotuspsychje: I may but for now I need some upstream packages [15:27] Br|aN: so 14.04 is end of life, this is why upgrading may be more difficult. but actually i assume you can still upgrade using the standard approach. [15:27] for now I have fixed the stuff by moving pcre-8.41 in the src directory [15:27] Br|aN: what's the "upgrade thing" you're doing? [15:28] Br|aN: and what does "it wont upgrade" look like? [15:36] Hi, I bought a dongle D-Link DW222 and apparently it does not support My kernel version (latest) and I tried every possible way of installing it and it didn't work. [15:37] Now, I am looking for a recommendation ab about a dongle with SIM card that you can recommend and works with Ubuntu for sure? [15:37] i.e a mobile router [15:41] netgear 4g modem will work [15:43] I use asus pocketsize router with USB dongle [15:43] (when I go abroad but generally dislike wireless) [15:43] aneon: can you send a link or specific model ? :) [15:47] New release '14.04.1 LTS' available. [15:47] Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it. [15:47] thats what i did [15:47] and i got [15:48] After updating your package information, the essential package [15:48] 'ubuntu-minimal' could not be located. This may be because you have [15:48] no official mirrors listed in your software sources, or because of [15:48] excessive load on the mirror you are using. See /etc/apt/sources.list [15:48] for the current list of configured software sources. [15:48] In the case of an overloaded mirror, you may want to try the upgrade [15:48] again later. [15:50] my bad forgot sabout pastebin [15:58] do I really need to install Ubuntu onto a local hard drive just to be able to install GRUB in UEFI mode into my existing ESP? I don't want it to find any kernels yet, just want to see a GRUB rescue shell so I know my BIOS-like utility managed to load GRUB. [15:58] !patience [15:58] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [15:58] !eolupgrade | Br|aN [15:58] Br|aN: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [16:00] Br|aN, if that guide doesn't help, please report what step failed, with details: what did you attempt? what did you expect? what did you observe instead= [16:04] Br|aN: you should update your system to the latest point release before you try to do a release upgrade. [16:05] my understanding is that you do *not* need to use the 'manual' process discussed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades to upgrade ubuntu 14.04.6 to 16.04.6, but that you can do so using do-release-upgrade. [16:07] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V8SQybRXmc/ [16:08] !precise [16:08] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) was the sixteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 28th 2017. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2017-April/003833.html for more information [16:08] you're on 12.04, not 14.04 [16:09] o ya [16:09] duh [16:09] i suggest you backup and do a fresh install [16:09] i missed that [16:09] wildermind: search netgear LTE modem 1120 [16:09] ok its been a min since i messed wtih ubuntu and this server how to do backup [16:10] aneon: ty! [16:10] !backup | Br|aN [16:10] Br|aN: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup, !borg, and !cloning [16:11] and please do use punctuation. [16:15] hmm seems my vps provider doesnt have teh stuff i need [16:15] what is the 'stuff [you] need'? [16:16] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/43rG7Xcjmc/ [16:17] freakin buyvm [16:18] are you still trying to upgrade this system which is two LTS releases behind? [16:18] i.e., did you decide against my recommendation (backup, install a supported ubuntu release)? [16:18] no im trying to back up everything like my ircd znc users and stuff [16:19] but it wont find the back up utitlity thing [16:19] sorry im running on no sleep [16:19] sleep first, come back when you did. [16:20] ill do t his on my next day off on tuesday with a fresh mind [16:20] girls about to come over anyway [16:21] to install software, you'll need to point your apt sources to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [16:22] thanks for the help [16:25] you're welcome, have a good night. [16:46] tomreyn: thank you, that windows ACPI line trick helped. Now it wakes up nicely [16:47] any graphicsmagick users here? [16:47] fastfresh: nice! i bet TJ- would love to hear this when he's around. [16:48] hypercore: no polls, please. just state the support question, if any. [16:48] tomreyn: i want to create a gif where each frame is a word from a string of text [16:50] each frame, so an animated gif, i assume? [16:50] correct [16:51] basically the graphicsmagick equivalent of this -> https://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/text/ [16:51] I wonder why it doesn't work out of the box. `sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep Linux` reports found strings, so I would expect support for linux acpi [16:51] tomreyn: or if you know another piece of software which could do it faster, that would be even better [16:52] hypercore: i personally lack experience with this, sorry. [16:53] how can i enable fingerprint on my ThinkPad t400 on Ubuntu 18.04 ? [16:53] fastfresh: apparently your mainboard firmware, like so many, send / announce different ACPI tables to Linux systems than to Windows ones, and the Linux ones are not sound. [16:53] i tried this but doesnt work: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1107755/fingerprint-reader-in-ubuntu-18-04 [16:54] fingerprint device vendor is Authentec [16:54] Bus 004 Device 002: ID 08ff:2810 AuthenTec, Inc. AES2810 [16:54] tomreyn: all good, apparently nobody has experience with this :P [16:54] fastfresh: many just know of Windows versions and "anything else", and "anything else" is a(n often badly composed) baseline. [16:55] hypercore: see also: snap find gif [16:55] earlier i had another thinkpad, i installed fingerprint gui but it was not so effective that it was asking me swap my finger everytime it asks password. i just want it on login [16:55] hypercore: I did that once, long time ago. basically a two step process, first you create individual frames as individual images, then you combine them into gif. as for specific commands, it's been a while and it's too long for irc anyway [16:57] We had a facebook app where you could supply text for pre-defined gif templates and post the result on your or friend's wall. [16:59] B|ack0p: there's a small wiki here, maybe it can help? https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/session-fingerprint.html.en [16:59] blackflow: nice, yeah struggling to find how to do it with graphicsmagick [16:59] apparently there are not many experts on this particular topic [16:59] hypercore: there are IM tutorials on how to write text into images [17:00] hypercore: http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/text/ [17:00] B|ack0p: seems also interesting: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1049526/fingerprint-activation-on-ubuntu-18-04?noredirect=1&lq=1 [17:00]