 wxl: that's not so easy, and brings a couple of items to discussion.  Now it use update-notifier-commons to check if there are upgrades avaialbles. /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check
[00:07] <wxl> well i got to wait for all the updates to be done first XD
 the way update-notiifier-common works is that it marks all the package for full-upgrade but if there is a deletion it moves to only safe-upgrade
 I could get the packages marked from update-notifier-common but It wouldn' be a dist-upgrade or full-upgrade or safe-upgrade. i tis something in between
 and since I dfon't know whic pakcages will be installed and which removed, I'm not sure if it woul dwork well.
 So, I decided to go with a full-upgrade, and I would have to check which woul be the packages involved before showing, makin it slower.
 My idea was to make a very simple updagrader, If someone wants more control over teh packages he/she can use muon or discover
 or command line?
 or commandline of course.
 I think it works well, I only ran it once though.
 my first idea was something like "hey, there are upgrades" you can do something, but then doing a full-upgrade was so easy that I added it.
 It is far better than what we had. :P
[00:14] <wxl> ^^^^
[00:20] <wxl> got a fix for bug 1629715 if everyone could test https://launchpad.net/~wxl/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages
 I will be home in about a half hour. I can give it a spin.
[00:30] <wxl> you'll notice it's available all the way back to xenial
[00:30] <wxl> should be an easy test. basically if usb-creator-kde doesn't get stuck opening, you're set
[00:30] <wxl> but it might be good to try some general usability
[00:30] <wxl> it's been non-functional for so long who knows if the basic program works
 I need to enable proposed for this
 and being that broken I can't write the manual on it
 Sounds good. I can run it through some paces. wxl
[00:32] <wxl> no, no proposed
[00:32] <wxl> it's in a ppa
[00:32] <wxl> although technically i'll need to get the eoan version in the archive before i can fully submit the ppa
 ppa works in disco
 well at elast doesn't autocrash
[00:40] <wxl> XD
[00:43] <lynorian> and slow usb drive is slow
[00:45] <wxl> omg papirus-icon-theme is slow
[00:45] <wxl> i've been waiting forever on this upgrade
[00:45] <lynorian> texlive-full is probably worse
[00:46] <wxl> X''''''''''''''''''''D
[00:46] <wxl> "probably"
[00:46] <wxl> omg you kill me lyn
[00:46] <wxl> i wonder what is the biggest package in the archive
[00:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#1423
[00:49] <lynorian> that is a metapackage though so a bit cheating
[00:49] <wxl> true
[00:49] <wxl> little do we know but tex itself is tiny
[00:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#1424
[01:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1425
[03:50] <lynorian> wxl why does the ubs-creator-kde say linpus lite 
[03:50] <lynorian> well it booted
[03:56] <lynorian> oh wow the papirus icon theme will need new screenshots for lots of stuff
[03:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#1426
[03:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#1428
[04:08] <wxl> linpus lite???????
[04:08] <wxl> anyways thanks for the testing folks
 I havae no clue why is says that as the label?
[04:09] <wxl> huh yeah i have no clue
 I missed that.
 wxl I even tested cosmic fwiw
[04:10] <wxl> cool thx i really appreciate that
 Happy to help.
[04:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#1429
 @wxl [<wxl> linpus lite???????], What about it?
[05:31] <wxl> read above
 @lynorian [<lynorian> wxl why does the ubs-creator-kde say linpus lite], This you mean?
[07:18] <lynorian> yes
 I will check when I am free.
[10:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1430
 Should we add different fonts to the grub theme?
[16:34] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker yep
 @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker yep], Which font? Any suggestions?
[17:30] <wxl> no i meant something else; i don't care about the fonts that much XD
 Me too. I don't think any special font is required. But if anyone has any suggestions for a font then I can try.
 Any other suggestions ? Other than font? wxl: ?
[17:33] <wxl> no, not really
 Anyone else? @kc2bez @HMollerCl @lynorian guiverc: @tsimonq2
[17:36] <kc2bez> GRUB Theme? LGTM
 LGTM means?
[17:36] <kc2bez> Looks Good To Me
 Ack
[17:37] <kc2bez> We are referring to GRUB theme right?
 Yup!
 I would vote for majority
[17:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1432
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