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Fudgeanyone able to chip in with some advice regarding live build?01:56
FudgeE: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com disco/updates Release' does not have a Release file.01:56
robert_ancellTrevinho, can you rebase https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/307 ?02:42
robert_ancelland https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/31402:43
dufluGood afternoon robert_ancell02:53
robert_ancellduflu, hi!02:53
dufluI suspect our mornings won't ever align02:53
Fudgewhat is the git repo being used for ubuntu's live build?02:54
robert_ancellFudge, the seeds?02:55
Fudgeno sir the actual livecd-rootfs I think?02:56
dufluFudge, apt-get source says:  https://git.launchpad.net/livecd-rootfs -b ubuntu/master02:56
Fudgeooh that's very handy to know apt-get source shows that02:57
Fudgeduflu:  thank you03:00
dufluNo problem03:00
Fudgeno wonder i was having so much problem before, i was using the debian lb03:14
Fudgeoh no back to this problem E: Unable to locate package syslinux-themes-ubuntu-oneiric03:37
Fudgeim not running live build in a vm, using the current dev branch to build a disco system so thought it should work05:51
Fudgeguess similar to05:55
Fudgebug #173979005:55
ubot5bug 1739790 in live-build (Ubuntu) "live-build fails to build" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173979005:55
didrocksgood morning06:20
dufluMorning didrocks06:26
didrockshey duflu06:28
Fudgeseems like installing syslinux-themes-ubuntu fixed it06:29
seb128goooood morning desktopers!07:10
didrockshey seb12807:18
seb128lut didrocks, bon w.e ? en forme ?07:19
dufluMorning seb12807:21
seb128hey duflu, how are you? had a good w.e and monday?07:22
dufluseb128, I am sore and out of shape, but also because I got a lot done. How about you?07:22
didrocksseb128: ça va, et toi ?07:22
seb128getting things done is at least something :) a bit the same here, tired, it was a busy/productive w.e07:23
seb128which included another trip to ikea to buy 20 boxes of wood floor for the terrasse and bring them from the car parking to the second floor and then installing them07:25
seb128good that it's monday and I can sit a bit :)07:25
dufluThat's a lot07:25
dufluYeah I know Monday is often that physical break you need07:25
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:27
didrockssalut oSoMoN07:27
seb128lut oSoMoN, en forme ? passé un bon w.e?07:27
oSoMoNsalut didrocks & seb12807:28
seb128et au "frais"? ;)07:28
oSoMoNoui, très bon week-end, bien arrivé en Bretagne hier soir, la température est très agréable :)07:28
seb128:)07:30
seb128tu veux dire que ça caille ?07:30
seb128here it's quite cold, 17°C ... I don't like too hot weather but that's the opposite, stil supposed to be summer07:31
didrocksI still prefer 17°C to 38°C, you can put a jacket on07:34
dufluMorning oSoMoN07:37
oSoMoNgood afternoon duflu07:38
oSoMoNdidrocks is a Norseman07:38
oSoMoNI don't know what the temperature is tbh, but I find it pleasantly cool, for now07:39
didrocksnot that far, but after living too many to hoot summer, I know what is more pleasant to me :)07:39
didrocks(as long as it's sunny)07:40
willcookemorning all07:54
oSoMoNmorning willcooke07:54
Fudgeor good evening if you're in AU07:55
dufluOnly evening in the east :)08:01
Laneyhi hi08:01
dufluHi Laney08:02
didrockshey willcooke, Laney08:03
oSoMoNmorning Laney08:05
seb128hey Laney willcooke08:06
Fudgehi Laney  long time no wave08:08
Fudgeduflu:  so true WA two hours behind Eastern Australia08:08
Laneyhi duflu didrocks oSoMoN seb128 Fudge!08:11
seb128the people triaging WSL issues on github have some way to get into a non-windows-user mindset :-/08:20
seb128they blogged about 'nicety, now you can browse your directories in explorer directly by doing 'explorer.exe .' from withing the WSL env'08:21
seb128which is nice indeed, and works as adverted ... now I tried to 'explorer.exe /etc' and that gives a 'empty dir' result08:21
seb128I opened an issue about it, but they are like 'yeah, it's normal, why would you expect that to work, /etc isn't a valid windows path'.... and don't budge from that position :-/08:22
dufluseb128, remember /foo in Windows is used for parameters like -foo in Unix/Linux08:24
dufluSo for consistency some programs might prefer to not support /etc08:25
seb128right, but you are in WSL08:25
dufluThough the parsing is reimplemented per-program. You can do anything you like08:26
seb128they could provide a wrapper script "explorer_linux' which wrap the patch into a wslpath conversion and call explorer.exe on the real path08:26
seb128it's not my problem as an user that they document explorer.exe as the way to browse you unix files but do it in a confusing way08:26
duflu:(08:45
dufluwillcooke, seb128, my changes to the release bugs page got lost/overwritten by others08:45
dufluMaybe this won't work08:45
* duflu tries again08:45
willcookeah, that's interesting.  I expected it to deal with that in a better way than just dropping some edits.08:46
dufluYes08:47
dufluNext time I will do it earlier in the day08:48
seb128no conflict handling? that's annoying :-/08:49
dufluwillcooke, it would probably work better with one post per bug08:49
Laneyhttps://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/658508:49
seb128is there some history of the changes?08:49
Laneymaybe we need to upgrade or something08:49
dufluIf each bug had its own post then it should be OK and people would be editing different posts08:51
dufluOr each person had their own post :)08:52
Laneythat would be a lot of clicking for the person making the post08:52
pieq_willcooke, https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ubuntu-what-does-the-future-look-like-post-unity/ → nice interview! :)08:55
=== pieq_ is now known as pieq
willcookepieq, thanks.  I wish they'd edited it a bit more than just recording a phone call and putting it straight out .09:05
willcookeAlso, I need to realise that 1999 isn't five years ago any more09:05
ograit is always as 1999 as you make it ;)09:10
pieqwillcooke, hahah :)09:12
pieqwillcooke, well, people always complain that the interviews are *too* edited, so maybe the journalist wanted to be as faithful as possible...09:12
pieqwe are all getting older09:12
dufluIn 1999 I could say I had a major in AI. I would not claim to know anything about AI anymore.09:13
pieqin 1999 I was told by my teacher "NASA has to process huge datasets, like 10 GB, in real time. That's an impossible task!".09:16
dufluAlso, ignore those kids building "Google". It won't amount to much09:16
pieqI've helped three friends installing Ubuntu on their laptops. Each of them have quite different use cases. I'm interested in their feedback in a few months.09:17
pieqduflu, :)09:17
dufluCurious. I am getting the problem with XDG_DATA_DIRS being ignored again. Laney did you make a suggestion last week?09:30
xnoxhey09:31
LaneyCan't remember09:31
Laneydidn't that turn out to be some other problem?09:31
Laneyhello xnox09:31
* duflu has another idea09:32
dufluHi xnox09:32
xnoxLaney:  thanks! so i think i fixed most of my weechat irc =)09:32
marcustomlinsonWhoops forgot to open irc this morning. Hola!09:32
xnoxSSL cert expired, and nickserv is broken, and like oftc is still broken09:32
dufluHi marcustomlinson. Was it blissful?09:33
marcustomlinsonhaha yeah :)09:33
dufluLaney. Yes it was a combination of two problems: (1) Last week I clobbered half my environment; and (2) Last week upstream mutter started requiring manual recompilation of schemas after `install`. Maybe it always did and only recent changes made it fatal...09:37
clobranohey all 0/09:44
Laneyduflu: ah, right - compiling schemas has always been required but perhaps a new key ended up in the codepath you were using for the first time09:46
Laneyyo clobrano, how's it going?09:46
dufluHi clobrano09:46
clobranohi Laney, very well indeed, what about you?09:47
Laneyaye can't complain09:48
Laneylooking at the weird image building scripts09:48
clobrano:)09:48
clobranoI applied for the Ubuntu membership for the next Wednesday, if anyone feels to drop a note on my page I will really appreciate (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/clobrano) [shameless promotion OFF]09:49
clobranothanks already to didrocks and willcooke :)09:49
willcookewoot!09:51
oSoMoNricotz, good morning! can you push your changes to the firefox-beta branches, please?10:05
ricotzoSoMoN, done10:07
ricotzoSoMoN, just holding back a tarballing update for now10:08
oSoMoNcheers!10:08
ricotzhello, what is up with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/240-6ubuntu1010:09
Laneydon't ask us :-)10:10
ricotzhopefully the uploader notices it ;)10:11
didrockshey clobrano, yw :)10:12
Fudgelol10:20
Laneykenvandine: did you want to do an MP to bring back the core snap?11:00
willcookeWoot.  Emailed Pete Laurence from The Sky At Night about his lunar eclipse images and got the OK to enter them in to the wallpaper comp, he's removed the watermarks and licenced under CC11:29
willcookeIn other news.... I installed Gimp on Disco from the deb and some bits of it are in German11:29
willcookeI think I remember seeing something about this sort of bug recently11:30
marcustomlinsonwillcooke: awesome re: the wallpaper!11:43
marcustomlinsonMan, it's gonna be hard to tear me away from the dingo though11:46
willcookemarcustomlinson, check it! https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/wallpaper-competition-eoan-ermine-19-10/11635/7112:30
marcustomlinson🤤12:32
Laneykenvandine: btw I think 05e71b38409b5a7cef41ebc864223466292268bb in livecd-rootfs (possibly with a seed change) broke it13:45
kenvandineLaney: thanks13:46
LaneyI'm filing a bug since the Hyper-V thing seems to be something different13:47
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/183659414:07
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1836594 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Snaps are broken in daily images" [Undecided,New]14:07
Laneywhich was all because I wanted to create https://trello.com/c/QJzgZClV/214-qa-ci-for-snaps-on-isos14:08
* Laney hopes that can be scheduled14:09
willcookethanks for adding that card Laney14:58
Laneynps14:58
ricotzoSoMoN, if you made changes to firefox-beta then consider to push them, 69.0b5 is due today15:39
oSoMoNricotz, I haven't made any changes yet15:40
ricotzoSoMoN, ok, I assumed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/183486615:41
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1834866 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Stop building and remove firefox-globalmenu" [Medium,Triaged]15:41
willcookenight all.  Have a good evening16:57

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