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| trewel | I am trying to install Xubuntu but when I reach the "Installation type" in the install wizard its like it automatically takes me to the "something else" menu. I'm okay with that (although I wish it would provide the erase and install option) except the menu won't show any partitions on my hard drive, even though windows shows the partitions in "Dis | 19:21 |
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| trewel | k Management." I would appreciate any help I can get! | 19:21 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, hdd or ssd? | 19:24 |
| trewel | HDD 1TB | 19:24 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, so now you hace a working windows system on it? | 19:25 |
| diogenes_ | have* | 19:25 |
| trewel | Yes, I have windows 10 but want to replace it with ubuntu | 19:25 |
| usney | how do I change my default keyring? | 19:26 |
| usney | is it safe to use the same key you use as admin password? | 19:27 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, if you want to erase it then choose create new partition table and pick gpt if uefi and mbr if bios legacy. | 19:27 |
| diogenes_ | usney, generally safe but if you wanna change it then install seahorse, that's the frontend for keyring. | 19:28 |
| trewel | Do I have to create the new partition table from Xubuntu on my USB? | 19:29 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, yes when you chose "something else" then there you choose your hdd and create new partition table. | 19:30 |
| usney | are you diogenes_ the cynic or diogenes from oedoanda? | 19:30 |
| diogenes_ | usney, and living in a barrel :D | 19:31 |
| diogenes_ | btw from Sinope. | 19:31 |
| usney | I suppose the later then | 19:32 |
| trewel | I can't click the "New Partition Table" button. The menu doesn't register any partitions of my hard drive. | 19:33 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, couled you make a screenshot? | 19:34 |
| trewel | I could try | 19:34 |
| diogenes_ | ok would be helpful. | 19:35 |
| usney | diogenes_, seahorse only lets me change the password successful but it doesn't do anything if I try to unlock it | 19:36 |
| usney | what am I doing wrong? | 19:36 |
| diogenes_ | usney, did you right click on login > unlock? | 19:37 |
| usney | yes | 19:37 |
| diogenes_ | and what happened? | 19:38 |
| usney | then no dialog comes up | 19:38 |
| usney | how do I do the keyring via gnupg? Surely that has to work? | 19:39 |
| diogenes_ | usney, that's weird, maybe you need to re-log. | 19:39 |
| usney | okay I'll be back | 19:39 |
| trewel | diogenes_, how do insert a picture on this platform | 19:41 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, upload it to imgur.com and share the link. | 19:41 |
| trewel | https://imgur.com/jEZ8oEo; /dev/sda is the only option in the menu, so I assume that is my drive. | 19:44 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, and do you see any other options if you click on /dev/sda | 19:46 |
| trewel | No, that is the only one. | 19:46 |
| diogenes_ | ok close this installer, open the menu and type in: gparted | 19:47 |
| trewel | Gparted is showing my computer's hard drive (plus its partitions) and the USB I am booting from | 19:49 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, ok the opeations we gonna do now will erase it completely, are you sure you don't need any data from it? | 19:50 |
| trewel | The Windows OS? No. | 19:50 |
| diogenes_ | windows os and any pics, music, videos will be gone. | 19:51 |
| trewel | I know, I don't have anything whatsoever on the computer | 19:51 |
| trewel | I actually want to get rid of Windows | 19:52 |
| diogenes_ | ok then in the upper right corner pick you hdd (make sure it's hdd and not your usb) then go to Device > create partition table | 19:53 |
| trewel | There | 19:53 |
| diogenes_ | and again, if uefi = gpt, if bios legacy then = master boot record | 19:53 |
| trewel | how do I know if I have uefi or bios | 19:53 |
| trewel | it is an hp computer by the way | 19:54 |
| diogenes_ | that's the thing you need to bios for or make a screenshot of the partitions and share here. | 19:54 |
| trewel | https://imgur.com/Lj2ktfX | 19:57 |
| diogenes_ | yeah looks like it has not efi partition then choose mastr boot record | 20:00 |
| diogenes_ | master* | 20:00 |
| diogenes_ | which is also sometimes called msdos and mbr | 20:00 |
| trewel | Ok | 20:01 |
| trewel | whoops! i just applied msdos. hope there wasn't anything else I was supposed to do! | 20:02 |
| diogenes_ | yes it's good, now create a primary partition, 40 Gb size, fily system: ext4, mount point: / | 20:03 |
| trewel | the entire drive is unallocated | 20:03 |
| diogenes_ | i know, just click on that unallocated and + symbol | 20:03 |
| trewel | Will it automatically mount to root? I don't see anywhere to select /. | 20:05 |
| diogenes_ | screenshot. | 20:06 |
| diogenes_ | or wait | 20:06 |
| diogenes_ | i might be called / or root | 20:06 |
| usney | hi | 20:06 |
| usney | diogenes_ that worked logging back in | 20:06 |
| diogenes_ | hi | 20:06 |
| diogenes_ | usney, glad it worked. | 20:06 |
| trewel | Here's the link: https://imgur.com/NuPuTwY | 20:08 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, ok it's good like that, we will assign them in the installer, just hit ok and apply. | 20:08 |
| usney | what's the difference between lxde and xfce? | 20:09 |
| trewel | Done | 20:09 |
| usney | diogenes_ which backup software do you use? | 20:10 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, now create a second partition, size = all remaining minus 5GB, filesystem: ext4 | 20:10 |
| usney | I use luckybackup | 20:10 |
| diogenes_ | usney, i usually have several drives with copies of my data, so no backup tool. | 20:11 |
| trewel | make the second partition primary also | 20:12 |
| trewel | ? | 20:12 |
| diogenes_ | doesn't matter, primary or logical, but yeah i always pick primary. | 20:13 |
| trewel | I applied the operation | 20:13 |
| diogenes_ | after that create the last one with remaining 5Gb, file system: swap (linuxswap) | 20:14 |
| diogenes_ | apply changes, close gparted and open the installer again. | 20:14 |
| trewel | I think I will have to make it swap in the installer | 20:15 |
| diogenes_ | ok | 20:15 |
| trewel | It still looks like this https://imgur.com/jEZ8oEo | 20:18 |
| diogenes_ | that's the weird thing i haven't seen so far, what happens if you click on +? | 20:19 |
| trewel | this happens https://imgur.com/Sa10Mab | 20:21 |
| trewel | By the way, this happened with xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver also | 20:22 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, ok, go to bios and change the SATA mode, if it's IDE change to AHCI and vice versa and try again. | 20:22 |
| diogenes_ | don't forget to save changes. | 20:22 |
| trewel | it is currently on RAID | 20:24 |
| diogenes_ | oh that's probably why, change it. | 20:24 |
| trewel | to AHCI? | 20:25 |
| diogenes_ | yes | 20:25 |
| diogenes_ | and delete the raid. | 20:25 |
| trewel | how? | 20:25 |
| diogenes_ | ok if there is no option, just pick AHCI, save and reboot. | 20:26 |
| trewel | Nothing has changed in the installer, should I switch to IDE? | 20:28 |
| diogenes_ | yeah try IDE. | 20:29 |
| diogenes_ | if that doesn't work then restore bios defaults. | 20:30 |
| trewel | k | 20:30 |
| Spass[m] | trewel: maybe Windows 10 blocked your disk somehow? is it hibernated maybe? just a wild guess | 20:34 |
| trewel | trying bios defaults, IDE didn't work | 20:35 |
| trewel | how would i "unhibernate" it? | 20:35 |
| Spass[m] | boot into it, shut it down | 20:36 |
| diogenes_ | Spass[m], but the partitions were already formatted with ext4. | 20:36 |
| diogenes_ | hiberfil.sys is long gone. | 20:37 |
| Spass[m] | ah, missed that, right | 20:37 |
| Spass[m] | well, I would look into some bios options, like disabling fast boot if possible etc. | 20:38 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, if bios defaults don't work then with gparted create a new partition table and leave it unallocated and try again witht he installer. | 20:38 |
| diogenes_ | with* | 20:38 |
| trewel | I did that in Windows using the Disk Manager, it didn't work | 20:39 |
| trewel | Unfortunately, defaults didn't work | 20:40 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, if none of the above work, then it's some bug in ubiquity, try to get on the insternet and from terminal do: sudo -S apt install calamares | 20:40 |
| diogenes_ | and run calamares installer. | 20:40 |
| trewel | heading to the installer | 20:41 |
| trewel | I mean terminal | 20:41 |
| trewel | should I click the "Install System" app or the "Run calamares" app? | 20:44 |
| diogenes_ | yes | 20:45 |
| diogenes_ | install system | 20:45 |
| trewel | it doesn't bring anything up when i click it | 20:47 |
| diogenes_ | ok then from terminal run: calamares | 20:47 |
| trewel | just type calameres? | 20:48 |
| diogenes_ | firs type in: cala and double hit tab | 20:48 |
| diogenes_ | and see what you get | 20:48 |
| trewel | I get: calamares | 20:49 |
| diogenes_ | ok not hit enter | 20:49 |
| trewel | the last line says "Calamares is already running, shutting down | 20:50 |
| diogenes_ | ok in terminal run: calamares --help and hit enter | 20:51 |
| diogenes_ | see what options you have there. | 20:51 |
| diogenes_ | if there is something like --install then run: calamares --install | 20:51 |
| trewel | there is only --help, --version, --debug, <level>, --config <config>, --xdg-config | 20:53 |
| diogenes_ | see what you get with: calamares --xdg-config | 20:54 |
| trewel | the first line says " KDSingleApplicationGuard: Could neither create nor attach to shared memory segment." it is the same message I got when I ran just "calamares" | 20:57 |
| diogenes_ | maybe you missing some packages, run: apt search calamares | 20:58 |
| diogenes_ | get the list of packages and see which one have the [installed] tag | 20:58 |
| jorgersm | Hello guys!My Xubuntu installation is catching in normal use.What can it be ?How do I find out the cause of this problem? | 21:02 |
| diogenes_ | jorgersm, what do you mean catching? | 21:05 |
| trewel | Sorry I took a while. there are 6 files, 2 have the installed tag | 21:05 |
| trewel | One of the 2 has [installed, automatic] | 21:06 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, ok then run: killall calamares, then sudo -S apt purge calamares and then this: sudo -S add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-calamares/testingthen sudo apt update then sudo apt install calamares-settings-ubuntu | 21:07 |
| trewel | is "then" part of the command | 21:08 |
| diogenes_ | no, just fast typing | 21:08 |
| jorgersm | diogenes_ the system stop and the screen stop also. Mouse and keyboard don't respond. I just reboot the power button to get it out of this situation. | 21:08 |
| diogenes_ | jorgersm, and has it always been like this since the first time you installed the system? | 21:09 |
| jorgersm | Yes. I installed it today. The computer was stopped a while ago. I wiped it lightly and he turned it back on. I installed the system and it started to present this problem. | 21:14 |
| diogenes_ | jorgersm, pastebin the output of: inxi -F | 21:15 |
| jorgersm | ok | 21:15 |
| trewel | diogenes_, i got "E: unable to locate package calamares-settings-ubuntu" after i ran sudo apt install calamares-settings-ubuntu | 21:16 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, then try with synaptic: sudo -S synaptic | 21:18 |
| diogenes_ | and there search calamares and it will show you all the relevant packages to install. | 21:18 |
| trewel | just run the line " sudo -S synaptic?" | 21:18 |
| diogenes_ | yes | 21:18 |
| trewel | I got "sudo: synaptic: command not found" | 21:19 |
| diogenes_ | sudo -S install synaptic | 21:19 |
| trewel | "install: missing destination file operand after 'synaptic'" | 21:22 |
| trewel | "Try 'install --help' for more information" | 21:22 |
| diogenes_ | oh sorry, i'm getting sleepy, it's: sudo -S apt install synaptic | 21:23 |
| trewel | done | 21:24 |
| trewel | diogenes_, I have synaptic package manager open | 21:34 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, search for calamares | 21:34 |
| diogenes_ | and install it and all the relevand packages | 21:35 |
| diogenes_ | relevant* | 21:35 |
| trewel | done | 21:38 |
| trewel | diogenes_, only calamares-settings-lubuntu wouldn't install (I think the warning said it would overwrite another file) | 21:40 |
| diogenes_ | ok now run calamares again in erminal and if it doesn't start then install calamares-settings-lubuntu and let it overwrite. | 21:43 |
| trewel | digenes_, in the details the notifications says the file failed to install. | 21:53 |
| trewel | I don't think its an overwrite issue after all | 21:54 |
| diogenes_ | trewel, ok then at this point i'm too tired to continue but before i go, i have the following things you can try: | 21:56 |
| diogenes_ | 1) in terminal run: sudo -S ubiquity and when you reach partitioning, look in the terminal and notice any errors warnings that will give you a hint of what could go wrong. | 21:56 |
| trewel | diogenes_, thanks a lot for you time, i'll probably just try Ubuntu or something. | 21:56 |
| diogenes_ | 2) download mx-linux which should install fine becaise it uses gparted for partitioning and with gparted you have no problems. | 21:57 |
| diogenes_ | if mx linux installs fine then you can try again the xubuntu installer. | 21:57 |
| diogenes_ | 3) put your hdd into another computer of even a hdd enclosure and see if you can install on it that way, if you are successful then install and then place it back in. | 21:58 |
| diogenes_ | these are the things i can think of right now, tomorrow you may come with a feedback on how it went. | 21:59 |
| trewel | Thanks for the suggestions! | 21:59 |
| diogenes_ | and of course maybe someone here has other ideas and will step in to helpt you further on. | 21:59 |
| diogenes_ | goodnight and good luck! | 21:59 |
| trewel | thanks | 21:59 |
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