[19:21] <trewel> I am trying to install Xubuntu but when I reach the "Installation type" in the install wizard its like it automatically takes me to the "something else" menu. I'm okay with that (although I wish it would provide the erase and install option) except the menu won't show any partitions on my hard drive, even though windows shows the partitions in "Dis
[19:21] <trewel> k Management." I would appreciate any help I can get!
[19:24] <diogenes_> trewel, hdd or ssd?
[19:24] <trewel> HDD 1TB
[19:25] <diogenes_> trewel, so now you hace a working windows system on it?
[19:25] <diogenes_> have*
[19:25] <trewel> Yes, I have windows 10 but want to replace it with ubuntu
[19:26] <usney> how do I change my default keyring?
[19:27] <usney> is it safe to use the same key you use as admin password?
[19:27] <diogenes_> trewel, if you want to erase it then choose create new partition table and pick gpt if uefi and mbr if bios legacy.
[19:28] <diogenes_> usney, generally safe but if you wanna change it then install seahorse, that's the frontend for keyring.
[19:29] <trewel> Do I have to create the new partition table from Xubuntu on my USB?
[19:30] <diogenes_> trewel, yes when you chose "something else" then there you choose your hdd and create new partition table.
[19:30] <usney> are you diogenes_ the cynic or diogenes from oedoanda?
[19:31] <diogenes_> usney, and living in a barrel :D
[19:31] <diogenes_> btw from Sinope.
[19:32] <usney> I suppose the later then
[19:33] <trewel> I can't click the "New Partition Table" button.  The menu doesn't register any partitions of my hard drive.
[19:34] <diogenes_> trewel, couled you make a screenshot?
[19:34] <trewel> I could try
[19:35] <diogenes_> ok would be helpful.
[19:36] <usney> diogenes_, seahorse only lets me change the password successful but it doesn't do anything if I try to unlock it
[19:36] <usney> what am I doing wrong?
[19:37] <diogenes_> usney, did you right click on login > unlock?
[19:37] <usney> yes
[19:38] <diogenes_> and what happened?
[19:38] <usney> then no dialog comes up
[19:39] <usney> how do I do the keyring via gnupg? Surely that has to work?
[19:39] <diogenes_> usney, that's weird, maybe you need to re-log.
[19:39] <usney> okay I'll be back
[19:41] <trewel> diogenes_, how do insert a picture on this platform
[19:41] <diogenes_> trewel, upload it to imgur.com and share the link.
[19:44] <trewel> https://imgur.com/jEZ8oEo; /dev/sda is the only option in the menu, so I assume that is my drive.
[19:46] <diogenes_> trewel, and do you see any other options if you click on /dev/sda
[19:46] <trewel> No, that is the only one.
[19:47] <diogenes_> ok close this installer, open the menu and type in: gparted
[19:49] <trewel> Gparted is showing my computer's hard drive (plus its partitions) and the USB I am booting from
[19:50] <diogenes_> trewel, ok the opeations we gonna do now will erase it completely, are you sure you don't need any data from it?
[19:50] <trewel> The Windows OS? No.
[19:51] <diogenes_> windows os and any pics, music, videos will be gone.
[19:51] <trewel> I know, I don't have anything whatsoever on the computer
[19:52] <trewel> I actually want to get rid of Windows
[19:53] <diogenes_> ok then in the upper right corner pick you hdd (make sure it's hdd and not your usb) then go to Device > create partition table
[19:53] <trewel> There
[19:53] <diogenes_> and again, if uefi = gpt, if bios legacy then = master boot record
[19:53] <trewel> how do I know if I have uefi or bios
[19:54] <trewel> it is an hp computer by the way
[19:54] <diogenes_> that's the thing you need to bios for or make a screenshot of the partitions and share here.
[19:57] <trewel> https://imgur.com/Lj2ktfX
[20:00] <diogenes_> yeah looks like it has not efi partition then choose mastr boot record
[20:00] <diogenes_> master*
[20:00] <diogenes_> which is also sometimes called msdos and mbr
[20:01] <trewel> Ok
[20:02] <trewel> whoops! i just applied msdos. hope there wasn't anything else I was supposed to do!
[20:03] <diogenes_> yes it's good, now create a primary partition, 40 Gb size, fily system: ext4, mount point: /
[20:03] <trewel> the entire drive is unallocated
[20:03] <diogenes_> i know, just click on that unallocated and + symbol
[20:05] <trewel> Will it automatically mount to root? I don't see anywhere to select /.
[20:06] <diogenes_> screenshot.
[20:06] <diogenes_> or wait
[20:06] <diogenes_> i might be called / or root
[20:06] <usney> hi
[20:06] <usney> diogenes_ that worked logging back in
[20:06] <diogenes_> hi
[20:06] <diogenes_> usney, glad it worked.
[20:08] <trewel> Here's the link: https://imgur.com/NuPuTwY
[20:08] <diogenes_> trewel, ok it's good like that, we will assign them in the installer, just hit ok and apply.
[20:09] <usney> what's the difference between lxde and xfce?
[20:09] <trewel> Done
[20:10] <usney> diogenes_ which backup software do you use?
[20:10] <diogenes_> trewel, now create a second partition, size = all remaining minus 5GB, filesystem: ext4
[20:10] <usney> I use luckybackup
[20:11] <diogenes_> usney, i usually have several drives with copies of my data, so no backup tool.
[20:12] <trewel> make the second partition primary also
[20:12] <trewel> ?
[20:13] <diogenes_> doesn't matter, primary or logical, but yeah i always pick primary.
[20:13] <trewel> I applied the operation
[20:14] <diogenes_> after that create the last one with remaining 5Gb, file system: swap (linuxswap)
[20:14] <diogenes_> apply changes, close gparted and open the installer again.
[20:15] <trewel> I think I will have to make it swap in the installer
[20:15] <diogenes_> ok
[20:18] <trewel> It still looks like this https://imgur.com/jEZ8oEo
[20:19] <diogenes_> that's the weird thing i haven't seen so far, what happens if you click on +?
[20:21] <trewel> this happens https://imgur.com/Sa10Mab
[20:22] <trewel> By the way, this happened with xubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver also
[20:22] <diogenes_> trewel, ok, go to bios and change the SATA mode, if it's IDE change to AHCI and vice versa and try again.
[20:22] <diogenes_> don't forget to save changes.
[20:24] <trewel> it is currently on RAID
[20:24] <diogenes_> oh that's probably why, change it.
[20:25] <trewel> to AHCI?
[20:25] <diogenes_> yes
[20:25] <diogenes_> and delete the raid.
[20:25] <trewel> how?
[20:26] <diogenes_> ok if there is no option, just pick AHCI, save and reboot.
[20:28] <trewel> Nothing has changed in the installer, should I switch to IDE?
[20:29] <diogenes_> yeah try IDE.
[20:30] <diogenes_> if that doesn't work then restore bios defaults.
[20:30] <trewel> k
[20:34] <Spass[m]> trewel: maybe Windows 10 blocked your disk somehow? is it hibernated maybe? just a wild guess
[20:35] <trewel> trying bios defaults, IDE didn't work
[20:35] <trewel> how would i "unhibernate" it?
[20:36] <Spass[m]> boot into it, shut it down
[20:36] <diogenes_> Spass[m], but the partitions were already formatted with ext4.
[20:37] <diogenes_> hiberfil.sys is long gone.
[20:37] <Spass[m]> ah, missed that, right
[20:38] <Spass[m]> well, I would look into some bios options, like disabling fast boot if possible etc.
[20:38] <diogenes_> trewel, if bios defaults don't work then with gparted create a new partition table and leave it unallocated and try again witht he installer.
[20:38] <diogenes_> with*
[20:39] <trewel> I did that in Windows using the Disk Manager, it didn't work
[20:40] <trewel> Unfortunately, defaults didn't work
[20:40] <diogenes_> trewel, if none of the above work, then it's some bug in ubiquity, try to get on the insternet and from terminal do: sudo -S apt install calamares
[20:40] <diogenes_> and run calamares installer.
[20:41] <trewel> heading to the installer
[20:41] <trewel> I mean terminal
[20:44] <trewel> should I click the "Install System" app or the "Run calamares" app?
[20:45] <diogenes_> yes
[20:45] <diogenes_> install system
[20:47] <trewel> it doesn't bring anything up when i click it
[20:47] <diogenes_> ok then from terminal run: calamares
[20:48] <trewel> just type calameres?
[20:48] <diogenes_> firs type in: cala and double hit tab
[20:48] <diogenes_> and see what you get
[20:49] <trewel> I get: calamares
[20:49] <diogenes_> ok not hit enter
[20:50] <trewel> the last line says "Calamares is already running, shutting down
[20:51] <diogenes_> ok in terminal run: calamares --help and hit enter
[20:51] <diogenes_> see what options you have there.
[20:51] <diogenes_> if there is something like --install then run: calamares --install
[20:53] <trewel> there is only --help, --version, --debug, <level>, --config <config>, --xdg-config
[20:54] <diogenes_> see what you get with: calamares --xdg-config
[20:57] <trewel> the first line says " KDSingleApplicationGuard: Could neither create nor attach to shared memory segment." it is the same message I got when I ran just "calamares"
[20:58] <diogenes_> maybe you missing some packages, run: apt search calamares
[20:58] <diogenes_> get the list of packages and see which one have the [installed] tag
[21:02] <jorgersm> Hello guys!My Xubuntu installation is catching in normal use.What can it be ?How do I find out the cause of this problem?
[21:05] <diogenes_> jorgersm, what do you mean catching?
[21:05] <trewel> Sorry I took a while. there are 6 files, 2 have the installed tag
[21:06] <trewel> One of the 2 has [installed, automatic]
[21:07] <diogenes_> trewel, ok then run: killall calamares, then sudo -S apt purge calamares and then this: sudo -S add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-calamares/testingthen sudo apt update then sudo apt install calamares-settings-ubuntu
[21:08] <trewel> is "then" part of the command
[21:08] <diogenes_> no, just fast typing
[21:08] <jorgersm> diogenes_ the system stop and the screen stop also. Mouse and keyboard don't respond. I just reboot the power button to get it out of this situation.
[21:09] <diogenes_> jorgersm, and has it always been like this since the first time you installed the system?
[21:14] <jorgersm> Yes. I installed it today. The computer was stopped a while ago. I wiped it lightly and he turned it back on. I installed the system and it started to present this problem.
[21:15] <diogenes_> jorgersm, pastebin the output of: inxi -F
[21:15] <jorgersm> ok
[21:16] <trewel> diogenes_,  i got "E: unable to locate package calamares-settings-ubuntu" after i ran sudo apt install calamares-settings-ubuntu
[21:18] <diogenes_> trewel, then try with synaptic: sudo -S synaptic
[21:18] <diogenes_> and there search calamares and it will show you all the relevant packages to install.
[21:18] <trewel> just run the line " sudo -S synaptic?"
[21:18] <diogenes_> yes
[21:19] <trewel> I got "sudo: synaptic: command not found"
[21:19] <diogenes_> sudo -S install synaptic
[21:22] <trewel> "install: missing destination file operand after 'synaptic'"
[21:22] <trewel> "Try 'install --help' for more information"
[21:23] <diogenes_> oh sorry, i'm getting sleepy, it's: sudo -S apt install synaptic
[21:24] <trewel> done
[21:34] <trewel> diogenes_, I have synaptic package manager open
[21:34] <diogenes_> trewel, search for calamares
[21:35] <diogenes_> and install it and all the relevand packages
[21:35] <diogenes_> relevant*
[21:38] <trewel> done
[21:40] <trewel> diogenes_, only calamares-settings-lubuntu wouldn't install (I think the warning said it would overwrite another file)
[21:43] <diogenes_> ok now run calamares again in erminal and if it doesn't start then install calamares-settings-lubuntu and let it overwrite.
[21:53] <trewel> digenes_,  in the details the notifications says the file failed to install.
[21:54] <trewel> I don't think its an overwrite issue after all
[21:56] <diogenes_> trewel, ok then at this point i'm too tired to continue but before i go, i have the following things you can try:
[21:56] <diogenes_> 1) in terminal run: sudo -S ubiquity and when you reach partitioning, look in the terminal and notice any errors warnings that will give you  a hint of what could go wrong.
[21:56] <trewel> diogenes_, thanks a lot for you time, i'll probably just try Ubuntu or something.
[21:57] <diogenes_> 2) download mx-linux which should install fine becaise it uses gparted for partitioning and with gparted you have no problems.
[21:57] <diogenes_> if mx linux installs fine then you can try again the xubuntu installer.
[21:58] <diogenes_> 3) put your hdd into another computer of even a hdd enclosure and see if you can install on it that way, if you are successful then install and then place it back in.
[21:59] <diogenes_> these are the things i can think of right now, tomorrow you may come with a feedback on how it went.
[21:59] <trewel> Thanks for the suggestions!
[21:59] <diogenes_> and of course maybe someone here has other ideas and will step in to helpt you further on.
[21:59] <diogenes_> goodnight and good luck!
[21:59] <trewel> thanks