[00:20] <daftykins> !info zulucrypt xenial
[00:20] <daftykins> !info zulucrypt bionic
[00:21] <daftykins> !info zulucrypt-gui bionic
[00:21] <daftykins> !info zulucrypt-gui xenial
[00:21] <daftykins> those look mighty different to me
[00:24] <pauljw> yeah they do, perhaps i'll setup a new persistent live device of bionic and load zulucrypt on it.
[01:03] <coffeecow> seahorse vs. keepassxc? just bringing up this again
[01:03] <daftykins> the people aren't really going to change
[01:15] <leftyfb> coffeecow: try them both and decide for yourself
[01:23] <coffeecow> using gpg+pass+git sounds like a nightmare
[01:23] <coffeecow> i have tried them both
[01:23] <coffeecow> keepassxc doesn't integrate well with like anything
[01:24] <daftykins> worked fine for me when i was testing it on kubuntu recently
[01:24] <daftykins> just what are you after being integrated exactly? Firefox worked fine
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:27] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:16] <marcoagpinto> Heya!!!!!! The demon is here!
[13:25] <marcoagpinto> guys?! I only slept from 8:30am to 12pm... I spent the night working on the projects... I have no life
[14:16] <lordcirth> marcoagpinto, hi
[14:17] <marcoagpinto> hey hey hey
[14:17] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[14:48] <lordcirth> Has anyone ever seen a link with MTU 2034?? I seem to have found one and I have no idea what's up
[14:52] <pragmaticenigma> someone monkeying around in the settings that shouldn't have?
[14:52] <pragmaticenigma> I thought max was 1500
[14:53] <lordcirth> pragmaticenigma, default is 1500, 9000 is common, we try to run 9000 internally
[14:54] <lordcirth> A lot of switches (Mellanox in particular) run 9036 or something like that, to allow MTU 9000 + tunnelling overhead.
[14:54] <lordcirth> But 2034 is just bizarre.
[14:55] <pragmaticenigma> lordcirth: Is that set on a commercial router or in someone's home configuration?
[14:56] <lordcirth> pragmaticenigma, commercial. Troubleshooting at $WORK
[14:56] <lordcirth> Also, tcp gets through but UDP doesn't, and I'm not aware of a firewall that would do this.
[14:57] <pragmaticenigma> UDP doesn't go out... or UDP goes out but that NAT doesn't recognize the return?
[14:58] <lordcirth> Shouldn't be any NAT involved. Not sure about how far it gets, still working on it
[14:58] <lordcirth> I was just hoping that someone had seen that odd 2034 and remembered what did that.
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> doesn't ring any bells for me... just seems like a random value someone set
[15:29] <TJ-> lordcirth: radius and 802.1x with jumbo frames?
[15:30] <lordcirth> TJ-, no wifi involved either. thanks tho
[15:31] <lordcirth> This *should* be entirely across 10Gbit tagged links between managed switches with MTU 9000+
[15:37] <TJ-> is it all UDP or just some?
[15:43] <TJ-> lordcirth: 802.1x (p-NAC) not 802.11 (wifi)
[15:43] <lordcirth> oh, oops
[15:43] <lordcirth> I am not aware of anything doing PNAC on our network
[15:44] <lordcirth> However, the target systems all have one thing in common - they are VMware VMs, which we don't use often. And I had MTU problems with another VMware system a few months ago. So I'm pretty sure that's it.
[15:44] <TJ-> lordcirth: the reason I mention it is if 802.1x is in use there are some circumstances where the EAP certificates are larger than a 1500 frame and need the DF bit set... 2034 could be set to allow larger EAP frames at some point.
[15:45] <lordcirth> TJ-, good to know, thanks
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> ssl updates incoming
[16:02] <tomreyn> on apollo 13?
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> no on r00tb0x
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/07/new-ubuntu-snap-store-app
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> !landscape
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> i should have used this teward :p
[18:27] <teward> heh\
[18:27] <teward> indeed.
[19:59] <OerHeks> 802.11n is now Wi-Fi 4; 802.11ac, Wi-Fi 5; and the upcoming 802.11ax, Wi-Fi 6
[19:59] <OerHeks> where -ax 4 times better performance than -ac
[20:36] <tomreyn> are those generation numbers, or has the wifi alliance relabelled those?
[20:37] <daftykins> it's a whole new naming scheme, mm
[20:37] <daftykins> though it doesn't factor in multiple transmit/receive streams on each, so there's more than meets the eye as always
[20:41] <OerHeks> yes, relabeling
[20:42] <OerHeks> https://techerati.com/features-hub/opinions/wi-fi-6-vs-5g-what-is-right-for-your-organisation/
[20:42] <OerHeks> mu-mimo
[20:42] <OerHeks> ya have to know the slang
[20:43]  * OerHeks got abducted by 2 chihuahua's for walk
[20:47] <tomreyn> aaaw poor OerHeks
[20:47] <tomreyn> should we send in the hero ninja turtles?
[20:48] <tomreyn> i guess the new naming scheme is helpful for the average users. the non tech user can't tell apart ab/g ac n ax very well
[20:54] <sonicwind> $200 for a cheap wifi 6 router - https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Nighthawk-Next-Gen-Router-AX3000/dp/B07PCMG75T
[20:59] <tomreyn> with Amazon Alexa Voice Controls
[20:59] <tomreyn> Alexa: make me an internet.
[21:21] <OerHeks> i am safe now
[21:21] <daftykins> phew, the dogs are sated for another few hours
[21:22] <OerHeks> How would a martini taste like, in California? http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
[21:25] <Gallomimia> like cucumber and norri?
[21:27] <OerHeks> ah yes, not stirred