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wxlguiverc: just added some info to your askubuntu answer re: 18.1000:45
guivercfeels strange me having to approve something from you!   (great catch; python2 was mentioned; but the significance escaped me completely!)00:48
guivercthanks wxl00:48
wxlnp :)00:48
wxlthanks for doing all the askubuntu questions for lubuntu!!! i haven't really done a good job of even paying attention to them00:49
lubot<teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 speaking of askubuntu do you think it would be reasonable to in …], meta post it00:50
lubot<teward001> beyond my decision 😛00:50
guivercyou can't be expected to; there's only 24 hours in a day (we don't live on bajor - sorry I'm a trekkie)00:51
wxlhahahah00:51
wxlno need to apologize my friend00:51
wxl@tsimonq2: do you know why trojita is not in our packageset?03:35
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: do you know why trojita is not in our packageset?], No clue03:35
wxlsiiiiiiiiiigh03:35
lubot<teward001> because chaoticness?  😛03:36
lubot<teward001> yes i'm not helping :)03:36
wxluh03:42
wxlneither is qterminal03:43
wxli quit, i swear03:45
wxlthese packagesets are making me crazy. i can't look at them anymore.03:45
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: I'm constantly recieving an error in some pages with falkon. For example in www.spiegel.de13:36
lubot<HMollerCl> Failed loading page … Something went wrong while loading this page. … Try reloading the page or closing some tabs to make more memory available.13:36
lubot<HMollerCl> but some works ok like: https://news.yahoo.com/herbalife-nutrition-ltd-nyse-hlf-194116482.html13:36
lubot<HMollerCl> on monday it worked fine13:37
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> Are you actually out of RAM?13:37
lubot<HMollerCl> @UniversalSuperBox [Are you actually out of RAM?], nope13:38
lubot<HMollerCl> the only warning that I don't remember seeing before in terminal is:libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile13:38
lubot<HMollerCl> $ free -m …               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available … Mem:           3942        1834         650         101        1457        1760 … Swap:             0           0           013:39
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> Hmm, could it be checking `free` rather than `free-buffers` to determine if it can load a page?13:41
lubot<HMollerCl> $ free …               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available … Mem:        4037184     1927736      609604      105044     1499844     1752076 … Swap:             0           0           013:42
lubot<HMollerCl> @UniversalSuperBox [Hmm, could it be checking free rather than free+buffers to determine if it can l …], not sure What you mean13:43
lubot<HMollerCl> restarted the system, still the same problem16:26
lubot<HMollerCl> also duck duck go gives me teh same problem in falko16:26
lubot<HMollerCl> @RikMills have you heard of this behaivour in falkon before?16:26
lubot<RikMills> No. I don't use falkon16:34
lubot<N0um3n0> @HMollerCl [restarted the system, still the same problem], I'll try it later, to see if I have the same problem16:50
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/falkon/+bug/183693817:16
wxl@HMollerCl i actually had that happen to me the other day although NO PAGE would load, even ones that i had previously loaded and the tabs were still open. i couldn't reproduce it so i'm not sure where to go with that17:35
lubot<SamuelBanya> Hey wxl I was in Oregon the other week on vacation for a few days in Portland. You got a gorgeous state my dude17:44
lubot<SamuelBanya> Just wanted to say17:44
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl i actually had that happen to me the other day although NO PAGE …], me neither, how did you fix it?17:45
wxlinstall and reinstall :/17:45
lubot<HMollerCl> I thought @RikMills could help us, but  he doesn't use falkon, he says..17:46
lubot<HMollerCl> did you try creating another profile?17:46
lubot<HMollerCl> anyway, I'm not sure, because of this type of things, to put falkon instead of firefox.17:47
lubot<RikMills> I build it. But there are 100's of KDE apps. I can't use them all!17:47
lubot<HMollerCl> which browser do you use?17:48
lubot<RikMills> Firefox developer17:48
lubot<HMollerCl> nice, wil we have video HW acceleration soon in firefox?17:48
lubot<HMollerCl> that's my main issue with linux.17:49
lubot<RikMills> I have no issues with video in it.17:52
lubot<RikMills> Have used Firefox mainly from the point it was called Firebird17:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcc32c1ea7cd9: Add or later to permafix version number] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcc32c1ea7cd918:55
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa8f960ec6909: Add command verabitum to download over zsync] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa8f960ec690919:06
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: If I create a new profile and open falkon with it, the problem with this profile doesn't happen. But then if I use tho older profile, it happen again with the older profile.19:37
wxl@HMollerCl oh good catch. let's see if we can find the profile file and compare them.20:07
lubot<HMollerCl> ~./config/falkon/<profiles> but it's a directory, not a file20:19
wxlstill something in there has to be different20:25
lubot<HMollerCl> a lot of things are different...20:34
lubot<HMollerCl> changing "session" in the same profile doesn't solve the issue20:34
wxl@HMollerCl try `diff -r` or kdiff20:58
lubot<N0um3n0> for me is failing in google.com page20:59
lubot<N0um3n0> deleting the profile directory falkon creates again21:00
lubot<N0um3n0> and fails again21:00
wxlis there a process you can reliably make it fail with?21:01
lubot<HMollerCl> did the same of deleting "default" directory in profile. It created it again and failed again21:03
lubot<HMollerCl> but for me google.com works21:03
lubot<HMollerCl> is duckduckg who doesn't21:03
lubot<HMollerCl> but it shouldn't be in the profile directory the issue then..21:04
lubot<N0um3n0> mmm21:05
lubot<N0um3n0> with portable option is not failing for me in google.com21:05
wxl19.10 btw?21:06
lubot<N0um3n0> yes21:06
wxlfresh browser gets right to both of them21:07
wxlrestart works fine21:08
wxli loaded as many programs as i could, got down to 62 MiB free, and loaded falkon and it still works21:15
lubot<HMollerCl> 19.10 too21:17
wxli'm not sure what i can do to re-create this :(21:17
lubot<N0um3n0> in my case I do not get an error if I do not let falkon write in the profiles folder ....21:18
wxlcurious21:18
wxlhow do you do that?21:18
lubot<N0um3n0> changing owner to root xDD21:19
wxlhahahah21:19
wxlmean21:19
wxl:)21:19
lubot<N0um3n0> @HMollerCl you still have problems with https://www.spiegel.de/    ???21:20
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, and is the "funnier" of all, it starts render teh page (apparently it ends) and the it gives the "failed loading page" message21:22
wxlworks here21:24
lubot<HMollerCl> I have appVersion 3.1.0 and QtWebENgine version 5.12.421:24
lubot<HMollerCl> what do you have wxl?21:24
wxlah i'm on 5.12.221:25
wxllet me upgrade21:25
lubot<HMollerCl> your anot using lubunu-update-notifier???21:25
wxl394 packages? jeeeeeeeeeeeez21:25
wxlno i'm using the latest daily live!!!21:25
lubot<HMollerCl> that's how 19.10 works21:26
wxlprobably going to run out of space21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> maybe you can upgrade only falkon21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> you can select them in muon21:26
wxlyeah i should do that21:27
lubot<N0um3n0> @HMollerCl [I have appVersion 3.1.0 and QtWebENgine version 5.12.4], me too21:27
wxlbut what's weird is i had just installed falkon.. so.. it should already be that way...21:27
wxlmaybe qtwebengine is only a recommend? hahahahahah21:28
wxlhuh21:29
wxlhold on21:29
* wxl facepalms21:29
wxlpointed vm at wrong iso21:29
wxlwrong meaning disco uhhhhh21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> jaja21:33
wxlyeah i've got like every app open and still can't reproduce21:34
wxlthat said i don't think it's related to memory21:34
lubot<HMollerCl> me neither21:36
lubot<N0um3n0> the message says it, but I do not believe it either21:37
lubot<HMollerCl> mm, so I created a new profile "a" it has no problem. I copy everything over "default" profile and it worked21:38
lubot<HMollerCl> then I restored my "default" profile and failed again21:39
wxlok so the issue lies there21:40
wxldid you try the `diff r`?21:40
lubot<HMollerCl> but if I force the system to create a new default profile, it fails21:40
wxl-r i mean21:41
lubot<HMollerCl> I didi it know, with a "clean" default profile which fails21:42
lubot<HMollerCl> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T6jbf8xnBW/21:42
lubot<HMollerCl> "a" i the one that works21:43
lubot<HMollerCl> mmm, and in private browsing works ok21:45
wxlum21:47
wxlcan you `diff -r -y`?21:47
wxlthese have different values.. wonder what they are < RunsWithoutOptimizeDb=121:48
wxlif you swap out settings.ini, does that make a difference?21:49
wxlthere's a databases file that's only in a. that's weird21:50
wxlthreepercenternation.com << what kind of madness are you getting into? XD21:51
wxldifferent value of sts_include_subdomains too..... hm21:53
wxlthat might be something worth toggling21:53
wxlnew adblock/easylist.txt. might be worth trying with adblock off21:54
lubot<HMollerCl> threepercentnation.com works ok21:58
lubot<HMollerCl> already tried with adblock off21:59
wxli was just commenting on the fact that you visited it apparently XD21:59
lubot<HMollerCl> mmm, not that I know21:59
lubot<teward001> ... why do I know that domain...21:59
lubot* teward001 sifts through his cyber-security things21:59
lubot<HMollerCl> but maybe I was... don't remember...21:59
wxl"Three Percenter Nation is an advocate for the Second Amendment and gun toting Bible believers."22:00
wxlANYWAYS22:00
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> I find it very amusing that that movement is split between multiple sites with a variation of the three percent name22:01
lubot<teward001> oh i know why i know this this was on a watchlist for spam recently...22:01
lubot<teward001> *shrugs*22:01
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> Seems like a special form of irony22:01
wxlwell, according to the Anti-Defamanation League, they're a loosely organized group22:02
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> The irony doesn't stop22:03
wxlwikipedia says they're a paramilitary group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Percenters22:03
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: the diff -r -y creates now a 4Mb file...22:04
wxlhahahha ok nevermind22:06
wxlso what about swapping settings.ini out?22:06
lubot<HMollerCl> swapping settings.ini worked!!!22:08
wxlok so that's one thing22:08
wxlnow we need to figure out which part of settings.ini made the difference22:08
wxllines 65-192 are all settings.ini changes22:08
wxlmostly in the form of additions to a22:09
lubot<HMollerCl> I will make a dif of only settings.ini22:09
wxlthe one thing that's different is that "RunsWithoutOptimizeDb" setting. so restore default back to the broken state and try change that to 3 rather than 122:09
wxlwhen you pastebinit, use --lang diff22:09
wxlsorry22:10
wxl-f diff22:10
lubot<HMollerCl> mmm, strange things is that swapping settings .ini I lost my saved passwords22:13
wxlthere's probably a reference in there22:14
wxlAutoCompletePasswords=true22:14
wxlpossibly also22:14
wxlCachePath=/home/hmoller/.cache/falkon/a22:14
wxland > SavePasswordsOnSites=true22:15
lubot<profetik777> So you may or may not have seen a task on phab for marketing and building a small  marketing team. If anyone is interested in learning more dm  me.22:15
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: but I need to get back to work22:16
lubot<HMollerCl> I will continue tomorrow22:16
lubot<profetik777> Wanted to connect w a few to kick some ideas on framework and approach.22:16
wxlsounds good22:16

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