[00:45] <wxl> guiverc: just added some info to your askubuntu answer re: 18.10
[00:48] <guiverc> feels strange me having to approve something from you!   (great catch; python2 was mentioned; but the significance escaped me completely!)
[00:48] <guiverc> thanks wxl
[00:48] <wxl> np :)
[00:49] <wxl> thanks for doing all the askubuntu questions for lubuntu!!! i haven't really done a good job of even paying attention to them
 @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 speaking of askubuntu do you think it would be reasonable to in …], meta post it
 beyond my decision 😛
[00:51] <guiverc> you can't be expected to; there's only 24 hours in a day (we don't live on bajor - sorry I'm a trekkie)
[00:51] <wxl> hahahah
[00:51] <wxl> no need to apologize my friend
[03:35] <wxl> @tsimonq2: do you know why trojita is not in our packageset?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: do you know why trojita is not in our packageset?], No clue
[03:35] <wxl> siiiiiiiiiigh
 because chaoticness?  😛
 yes i'm not helping :)
[03:42] <wxl> uh
[03:43] <wxl> neither is qterminal
[03:45] <wxl> i quit, i swear
[03:45] <wxl> these packagesets are making me crazy. i can't look at them anymore.
 wxl: I'm constantly recieving an error in some pages with falkon. For example in www.spiegel.de
 Failed loading page … Something went wrong while loading this page. … Try reloading the page or closing some tabs to make more memory available.
 but some works ok like: https://news.yahoo.com/herbalife-nutrition-ltd-nyse-hlf-194116482.html
 on monday it worked fine
 Are you actually out of RAM?
 @UniversalSuperBox [Are you actually out of RAM?], nope
 the only warning that I don't remember seeing before in terminal is:libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile
 $ free -m …               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available … Mem:           3942        1834         650         101        1457        1760 … Swap:             0           0           0
 Hmm, could it be checking `free` rather than `free-buffers` to determine if it can load a page?
 $ free …               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available … Mem:        4037184     1927736      609604      105044     1499844     1752076 … Swap:             0           0           0
 @UniversalSuperBox [Hmm, could it be checking free rather than free+buffers to determine if it can l …], not sure What you mean
 restarted the system, still the same problem
 also duck duck go gives me teh same problem in falko
 @RikMills have you heard of this behaivour in falkon before?
 No. I don't use falkon
 @HMollerCl [restarted the system, still the same problem], I'll try it later, to see if I have the same problem
 wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/falkon/+bug/1836938
[17:35] <wxl> @HMollerCl i actually had that happen to me the other day although NO PAGE would load, even ones that i had previously loaded and the tabs were still open. i couldn't reproduce it so i'm not sure where to go with that
 Hey wxl I was in Oregon the other week on vacation for a few days in Portland. You got a gorgeous state my dude
 Just wanted to say
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl i actually had that happen to me the other day although NO PAGE …], me neither, how did you fix it?
[17:45] <wxl> install and reinstall :/
 I thought @RikMills could help us, but  he doesn't use falkon, he says..
 did you try creating another profile?
 anyway, I'm not sure, because of this type of things, to put falkon instead of firefox.
 I build it. But there are 100's of KDE apps. I can't use them all!
 which browser do you use?
 Firefox developer
 nice, wil we have video HW acceleration soon in firefox?
 that's my main issue with linux.
 I have no issues with video in it.
 Have used Firefox mainly from the point it was called Firebird
[18:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcc32c1ea7cd9: Add or later to permafix version number] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcc32c1ea7cd9
[19:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa8f960ec6909: Add command verabitum to download over zsync] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa8f960ec6909
 wxl: If I create a new profile and open falkon with it, the problem with this profile doesn't happen. But then if I use tho older profile, it happen again with the older profile.
[20:07] <wxl> @HMollerCl oh good catch. let's see if we can find the profile file and compare them.
 ~./config/falkon/<profiles> but it's a directory, not a file
[20:25] <wxl> still something in there has to be different
 a lot of things are different...
 changing "session" in the same profile doesn't solve the issue
[20:58] <wxl> @HMollerCl try `diff -r` or kdiff
 for me is failing in google.com page
 deleting the profile directory falkon creates again
 and fails again
[21:01] <wxl> is there a process you can reliably make it fail with?
 did the same of deleting "default" directory in profile. It created it again and failed again
 but for me google.com works
 is duckduckg who doesn't
 but it shouldn't be in the profile directory the issue then..
 mmm
 with portable option is not failing for me in google.com
[21:06] <wxl> 19.10 btw?
 yes
[21:07] <wxl> fresh browser gets right to both of them
[21:08] <wxl> restart works fine
[21:15] <wxl> i loaded as many programs as i could, got down to 62 MiB free, and loaded falkon and it still works
 19.10 too
[21:17] <wxl> i'm not sure what i can do to re-create this :(
 in my case I do not get an error if I do not let falkon write in the profiles folder ....
[21:18] <wxl> curious
[21:18] <wxl> how do you do that?
 changing owner to root xDD
[21:19] <wxl> hahahah
[21:19] <wxl> mean
[21:19] <wxl> :)
 @HMollerCl you still have problems with https://www.spiegel.de/    ???
 yes, and is the "funnier" of all, it starts render teh page (apparently it ends) and the it gives the "failed loading page" message
[21:24] <wxl> works here
 I have appVersion 3.1.0 and QtWebENgine version 5.12.4
 what do you have wxl?
[21:25] <wxl> ah i'm on 5.12.2
[21:25] <wxl> let me upgrade
 your anot using lubunu-update-notifier???
[21:25] <wxl> 394 packages? jeeeeeeeeeeeez
[21:25] <wxl> no i'm using the latest daily live!!!
 that's how 19.10 works
[21:26] <wxl> probably going to run out of space
 maybe you can upgrade only falkon
 you can select them in muon
[21:27] <wxl> yeah i should do that
 @HMollerCl [I have appVersion 3.1.0 and QtWebENgine version 5.12.4], me too
[21:27] <wxl> but what's weird is i had just installed falkon.. so.. it should already be that way...
[21:28] <wxl> maybe qtwebengine is only a recommend? hahahahahah
[21:29] <wxl> huh
[21:29] <wxl> hold on
[21:29]  * wxl facepalms
[21:29] <wxl> pointed vm at wrong iso
[21:30] <wxl> wrong meaning disco uhhhhh
 jaja
[21:34] <wxl> yeah i've got like every app open and still can't reproduce
[21:34] <wxl> that said i don't think it's related to memory
 me neither
 the message says it, but I do not believe it either
 mm, so I created a new profile "a" it has no problem. I copy everything over "default" profile and it worked
 then I restored my "default" profile and failed again
[21:40] <wxl> ok so the issue lies there
[21:40] <wxl> did you try the `diff r`?
 but if I force the system to create a new default profile, it fails
[21:41] <wxl> -r i mean
 I didi it know, with a "clean" default profile which fails
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T6jbf8xnBW/
 "a" i the one that works
 mmm, and in private browsing works ok
[21:47] <wxl> um
[21:47] <wxl> can you `diff -r -y`?
[21:48] <wxl> these have different values.. wonder what they are < RunsWithoutOptimizeDb=1
[21:49] <wxl> if you swap out settings.ini, does that make a difference?
[21:50] <wxl> there's a databases file that's only in a. that's weird
[21:51] <wxl> threepercenternation.com << what kind of madness are you getting into? XD
[21:53] <wxl> different value of sts_include_subdomains too..... hm
[21:53] <wxl> that might be something worth toggling
[21:54] <wxl> new adblock/easylist.txt. might be worth trying with adblock off
 threepercentnation.com works ok
 already tried with adblock off
[21:59] <wxl> i was just commenting on the fact that you visited it apparently XD
 mmm, not that I know
 ... why do I know that domain...
 but maybe I was... don't remember...
[22:00] <wxl> "Three Percenter Nation is an advocate for the Second Amendment and gun toting Bible believers."
[22:00] <wxl> ANYWAYS
 I find it very amusing that that movement is split between multiple sites with a variation of the three percent name
 oh i know why i know this this was on a watchlist for spam recently...
 *shrugs*
 Seems like a special form of irony
[22:02] <wxl> well, according to the Anti-Defamanation League, they're a loosely organized group
 The irony doesn't stop
[22:03] <wxl> wikipedia says they're a paramilitary group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Percenters
 wxl: the diff -r -y creates now a 4Mb file...
[22:06] <wxl> hahahha ok nevermind
[22:06] <wxl> so what about swapping settings.ini out?
 swapping settings.ini worked!!!
[22:08] <wxl> ok so that's one thing
[22:08] <wxl> now we need to figure out which part of settings.ini made the difference
[22:08] <wxl> lines 65-192 are all settings.ini changes
[22:09] <wxl> mostly in the form of additions to a
 I will make a dif of only settings.ini
[22:09] <wxl> the one thing that's different is that "RunsWithoutOptimizeDb" setting. so restore default back to the broken state and try change that to 3 rather than 1
[22:09] <wxl> when you pastebinit, use --lang diff
[22:10] <wxl> sorry
[22:10] <wxl> -f diff
 mmm, strange things is that swapping settings .ini I lost my saved passwords
[22:14] <wxl> there's probably a reference in there
[22:14] <wxl> AutoCompletePasswords=true
[22:14] <wxl> possibly also
[22:14] <wxl> CachePath=/home/hmoller/.cache/falkon/a
[22:15] <wxl> and > SavePasswordsOnSites=true
 So you may or may not have seen a task on phab for marketing and building a small  marketing team. If anyone is interested in learning more dm  me.
 wxl: but I need to get back to work
 I will continue tomorrow
 Wanted to connect w a few to kick some ideas on framework and approach.
[22:16] <wxl> sounds good