[00:45] guiverc: just added some info to your askubuntu answer re: 18.10 [00:48] feels strange me having to approve something from you! (great catch; python2 was mentioned; but the significance escaped me completely!) [00:48] thanks wxl [00:48] np :) [00:49] thanks for doing all the askubuntu questions for lubuntu!!! i haven't really done a good job of even paying attention to them [00:50] @wxl [ @teward001 speaking of askubuntu do you think it would be reasonable to in …], meta post it [00:50] beyond my decision 😛 [00:51] you can't be expected to; there's only 24 hours in a day (we don't live on bajor - sorry I'm a trekkie) [00:51] hahahah [00:51] no need to apologize my friend [03:35] @tsimonq2: do you know why trojita is not in our packageset? [03:35] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: do you know why trojita is not in our packageset?], No clue [03:35] siiiiiiiiiigh [03:36] because chaoticness? 😛 [03:36] yes i'm not helping :) [03:42] uh [03:43] neither is qterminal [03:45] i quit, i swear [03:45] these packagesets are making me crazy. i can't look at them anymore. [13:36] wxl: I'm constantly recieving an error in some pages with falkon. For example in www.spiegel.de [13:36] Failed loading page … Something went wrong while loading this page. … Try reloading the page or closing some tabs to make more memory available. [13:36] but some works ok like: https://news.yahoo.com/herbalife-nutrition-ltd-nyse-hlf-194116482.html [13:37] on monday it worked fine [13:37] Are you actually out of RAM? [13:38] @UniversalSuperBox [Are you actually out of RAM?], nope [13:38] the only warning that I don't remember seeing before in terminal is:libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile [13:39] $ free -m … total used free shared buff/cache available … Mem: 3942 1834 650 101 1457 1760 … Swap: 0 0 0 [13:41] Hmm, could it be checking `free` rather than `free-buffers` to determine if it can load a page? [13:42] $ free … total used free shared buff/cache available … Mem: 4037184 1927736 609604 105044 1499844 1752076 … Swap: 0 0 0 [13:43] @UniversalSuperBox [Hmm, could it be checking free rather than free+buffers to determine if it can l …], not sure What you mean [16:26] restarted the system, still the same problem [16:26] also duck duck go gives me teh same problem in falko [16:26] @RikMills have you heard of this behaivour in falkon before? [16:34] No. I don't use falkon [16:50] @HMollerCl [restarted the system, still the same problem], I'll try it later, to see if I have the same problem [17:16] wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/falkon/+bug/1836938 [17:35] @HMollerCl i actually had that happen to me the other day although NO PAGE would load, even ones that i had previously loaded and the tabs were still open. i couldn't reproduce it so i'm not sure where to go with that [17:44] Hey wxl I was in Oregon the other week on vacation for a few days in Portland. You got a gorgeous state my dude [17:44] Just wanted to say [17:45] @wxl [ @HMollerCl i actually had that happen to me the other day although NO PAGE …], me neither, how did you fix it? [17:45] install and reinstall :/ [17:46] I thought @RikMills could help us, but he doesn't use falkon, he says.. [17:46] did you try creating another profile? [17:47] anyway, I'm not sure, because of this type of things, to put falkon instead of firefox. [17:47] I build it. But there are 100's of KDE apps. I can't use them all! [17:48] which browser do you use? [17:48] Firefox developer [17:48] nice, wil we have video HW acceleration soon in firefox? [17:49] that's my main issue with linux. [17:52] I have no issues with video in it. [17:54] Have used Firefox mainly from the point it was called Firebird [18:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcc32c1ea7cd9: Add or later to permafix version number] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcc32c1ea7cd9 [19:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa8f960ec6909: Add command verabitum to download over zsync] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa8f960ec6909 [19:37] wxl: If I create a new profile and open falkon with it, the problem with this profile doesn't happen. But then if I use tho older profile, it happen again with the older profile. [20:07] @HMollerCl oh good catch. let's see if we can find the profile file and compare them. [20:19] ~./config/falkon/ but it's a directory, not a file [20:25] still something in there has to be different [20:34] a lot of things are different... [20:34] changing "session" in the same profile doesn't solve the issue [20:58] @HMollerCl try `diff -r` or kdiff [20:59] for me is failing in google.com page [21:00] deleting the profile directory falkon creates again [21:00] and fails again [21:01] is there a process you can reliably make it fail with? [21:03] did the same of deleting "default" directory in profile. It created it again and failed again [21:03] but for me google.com works [21:03] is duckduckg who doesn't [21:04] but it shouldn't be in the profile directory the issue then.. [21:05] mmm [21:05] with portable option is not failing for me in google.com [21:06] 19.10 btw? [21:06] yes [21:07] fresh browser gets right to both of them [21:08] restart works fine [21:15] i loaded as many programs as i could, got down to 62 MiB free, and loaded falkon and it still works [21:17] 19.10 too [21:17] i'm not sure what i can do to re-create this :( [21:18] in my case I do not get an error if I do not let falkon write in the profiles folder .... [21:18] curious [21:18] how do you do that? [21:19] changing owner to root xDD [21:19] hahahah [21:19] mean [21:19] :) [21:20] @HMollerCl you still have problems with https://www.spiegel.de/ ??? [21:22] yes, and is the "funnier" of all, it starts render teh page (apparently it ends) and the it gives the "failed loading page" message [21:24] works here [21:24] I have appVersion 3.1.0 and QtWebENgine version 5.12.4 [21:24] what do you have wxl? [21:25] ah i'm on 5.12.2 [21:25] let me upgrade [21:25] your anot using lubunu-update-notifier??? [21:25] 394 packages? jeeeeeeeeeeeez [21:25] no i'm using the latest daily live!!! [21:26] that's how 19.10 works [21:26] probably going to run out of space [21:26] maybe you can upgrade only falkon [21:26] you can select them in muon [21:27] yeah i should do that [21:27] @HMollerCl [I have appVersion 3.1.0 and QtWebENgine version 5.12.4], me too [21:27] but what's weird is i had just installed falkon.. so.. it should already be that way... [21:28] maybe qtwebengine is only a recommend? hahahahahah [21:29] huh [21:29] hold on [21:29] * wxl facepalms [21:29] pointed vm at wrong iso [21:30] wrong meaning disco uhhhhh [21:33] jaja [21:34] yeah i've got like every app open and still can't reproduce [21:34] that said i don't think it's related to memory [21:36] me neither [21:37] the message says it, but I do not believe it either [21:38] mm, so I created a new profile "a" it has no problem. I copy everything over "default" profile and it worked [21:39] then I restored my "default" profile and failed again [21:40] ok so the issue lies there [21:40] did you try the `diff r`? [21:40] but if I force the system to create a new default profile, it fails [21:41] -r i mean [21:42] I didi it know, with a "clean" default profile which fails [21:42] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T6jbf8xnBW/ [21:43] "a" i the one that works [21:45] mmm, and in private browsing works ok [21:47] um [21:47] can you `diff -r -y`? [21:48] these have different values.. wonder what they are < RunsWithoutOptimizeDb=1 [21:49] if you swap out settings.ini, does that make a difference? [21:50] there's a databases file that's only in a. that's weird [21:51] threepercenternation.com << what kind of madness are you getting into? XD [21:53] different value of sts_include_subdomains too..... hm [21:53] that might be something worth toggling [21:54] new adblock/easylist.txt. might be worth trying with adblock off [21:58] threepercentnation.com works ok [21:59] already tried with adblock off [21:59] i was just commenting on the fact that you visited it apparently XD [21:59] mmm, not that I know [21:59] ... why do I know that domain... [21:59] * teward001 sifts through his cyber-security things [21:59] but maybe I was... don't remember... [22:00] "Three Percenter Nation is an advocate for the Second Amendment and gun toting Bible believers." [22:00] ANYWAYS [22:01] I find it very amusing that that movement is split between multiple sites with a variation of the three percent name [22:01] oh i know why i know this this was on a watchlist for spam recently... [22:01] *shrugs* [22:01] Seems like a special form of irony [22:02] well, according to the Anti-Defamanation League, they're a loosely organized group [22:03] The irony doesn't stop [22:03] wikipedia says they're a paramilitary group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Percenters [22:04] wxl: the diff -r -y creates now a 4Mb file... [22:06] hahahha ok nevermind [22:06] so what about swapping settings.ini out? [22:08] swapping settings.ini worked!!! [22:08] ok so that's one thing [22:08] now we need to figure out which part of settings.ini made the difference [22:08] lines 65-192 are all settings.ini changes [22:09] mostly in the form of additions to a [22:09] I will make a dif of only settings.ini [22:09] the one thing that's different is that "RunsWithoutOptimizeDb" setting. so restore default back to the broken state and try change that to 3 rather than 1 [22:09] when you pastebinit, use --lang diff [22:10] sorry [22:10] -f diff [22:13] mmm, strange things is that swapping settings .ini I lost my saved passwords [22:14] there's probably a reference in there [22:14] AutoCompletePasswords=true [22:14] possibly also [22:14] CachePath=/home/hmoller/.cache/falkon/a [22:15] and > SavePasswordsOnSites=true [22:15] So you may or may not have seen a task on phab for marketing and building a small marketing team. If anyone is interested in learning more dm me. [22:16] wxl: but I need to get back to work [22:16] I will continue tomorrow [22:16] Wanted to connect w a few to kick some ideas on framework and approach. [22:16] sounds good