[00:19] <ubptgbot> <A C> (Photo, 600x1024) https://irc.ubports.com/CENqoJpD.png
[00:24] <ubptgbot> <A C> (Photo, 600x1024) https://irc.ubports.com/7oxgRnSi.png
 A, please stop posting random links and screenshots.
[02:07] <ubptgbot> <A C> What difficulties would there be to replace Qml with Python?
 Loving the TELEports app for Ubuntu Touch. Makes the phone a lot more usuable for me.
 @UniversalSuperBox [A, please stop posting random links and screenshots.], Any update on moto g5 after 2018?
 @UniversalSuperBox [A, please stop posting random links and screenshots.], [Edit] Any update on moto g5 plus after 2018?
 @RedBlade4555 [Any update on moto g5 plus after 2018?], @UniversalSuperBox this is for you. … Do answer wen u see it
 Lost the internet connection while flashing a Nexus 5. Recovery works, but how do I install Ubuntu Touch now..?
 Now ubports installer won't detect it
 Didn't it download the whole image before flashing?
 I take it you can see the device with ADB?
 I lost internet connectivity after flashing the recovery. So I have a working recovery, therefore no ADB.
 I've always used ubuntu-device-flash to flash my phones. What O/S are you using to flash from?
 Ubuntu
 recovery should have working adb?
 Have you tried to adb kill-server
 Sometimes adb is still running and 'stuck' I've had to kill of the server then connect again
 Foudn the section "Manually install Ubuntu Touch", that's what I was looking for. :)
 *Found
 Great. Let us know how it goes.
 It says "Installing update". Seems to take some time now.
 Yes. I've found it can take some time. Not sure if this will apply to you but when I've had a failed install using ubuntu-device-flash I've had to delete the image files that were downloaded to my local PC
 It's working. :) … Finally I have replaced the old and broken E4.5.
 Cool
 But OpenStore does not show me any apps, for some reason
 Sorry not sure about that.
 Anbox was pretty straight-forward to install :)
 @RedBlade4555 [Any update on moto g5 plus after 2018?], no
 @DC7IA [But OpenStore does not show me any apps, for some reason], that sounds like a bad internet connection
 @UniversalSuperBox [no], @UniversalSuperBox are there any future plans?
 @RedBlade4555 [@UniversalSuperBox are there any future plans?], I personally don't have any. Too much maintaining a mobile OS for porting a bunch of devices ;)
 But if you'd like to try it out, all the information is on the halium projectmanagement issue tracker
 Thanks
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 Does installing OTA updates remove Anbox..?
 Yes
 So that's why it isn't working anymore. Thanks.
 So RC is a bad idea if I don't want to flash it every week, I guess. :D
 Can you join invite link telegram groups with any of the Ubuntu Touch apps? None seem to be playing ball.
 Forget it I was being a dunce.
[16:37] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @iamjackscompletelackofsurprise [Can you join invite link telegram groups with any of the Ubuntu Touch apps? None …], Teleports and browser don't do it?
 @John (Marlin) [Teleports and browser don't do it?], Yep. Got it sorted. It was me being stupid.
 Manged to sort it in a web browser.
[17:00] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @iamjackscompletelackofsurprise [Manged to sort it in a web browser.], Great. We have to rely on the browser a lot to make up for the lack of apps.
 Hi
 Loli pictures or videos?
 :)
 i think you're in the wrong place?
 this group is about UBports and Ubuntu Touch https://ubuntu-touch.io
 *Calling FBI*
 that person is gone
 uh, because they asked something in the wrong place once?
 maybe confused yumi with that other robot?
 @mateosalta [maybe confused yumi with that other robot?], Lolibot 5000?
 ?
 that person was asking for innapropriate content in UBports room,
 not necessarily
 @dohbee [Lolibot 5000?], something like that, although they changed the design a bit since first - it was nearly a direct knock of at first
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0HWp0q0N.webp
 (Photo, 176x208) https://irc.ubports.com/SYwvR8gn.png
 hmm.
 (Photo, 108x119) https://irc.ubports.com/odUgamzO.png
 the first one even had the logo badge spot ...
 granted that perhaps japanese cultural things are off topic, claiming it to be outright inappropriate seems a bit off :)
 thanks
 unbanned. thanks for explaining.
 Is Signal dead? There has not been any activity on github for 1.5 years.
 https://github.com/nanu-c/textsecure-qml
 Oh, correcting... 13 Jan this year
 No its not dead, would be nice if someone could help... Aaron is also actively contributing to teleports...
 So 0.5 years
 @hummlbach [No its not dead, would be nice if someone could help... Aaron is also actively c …], I could do translation stuff.. German and  Swedish
 If that is of any use... :)
 Don't know how the translation is organized... @nanu_c
 Also, I don't get any new messages (since two weeks). They appear on the desktop, but I can't load them on UT for some reason. Closing and opening the app for ~100 times makes it load one or two, though
 The hurdle to contribute to the signal app is a  bit higher than usual, as it is written in go, with a crude interface between go and qml... And there are less people out there knowing go than people knowing c++...
 [Edit] The hurdle to contribute to the signal app is unfortunately a  bit higher than usual, as it is written in go, with a crude interface between go and qml... And there are less people out there knowing go than people knowing c++...
 [Edit] The hurdle to contribute to the signal app is unfortunately a  bit higher than usual, as it is written in go, with a crude interface between go and qml if I understood that correctly... 😁 And there are less people out there knowing go than people knowing c++...
 So true... I know at least _very_ limited C, so would understand a bit, but I don't know anything about go.
 Furthermore API is not documented and has to be extracted from the java android app
 wtf
 I think they changed the API way to much
 @DC7IA [Also, I don't get any new messages (since two weeks). They appear on the desktop …], Is that a known problem?
 Until now not you can file an issue on GitHub
 Will do tomorrow. Need help with translations?
 It's a know issue that if you have to many messages that it breaks
 What can I do to fix that..?
 I mean somehow I must be able to load a few, right..?
 Logout and register again 😜
 No, please not... :(
 Then all messages will be deleted and every group has a problem
 Already had to reverify all my contacts when I flashed UT
 @nanu_c [Then all messages will be deleted and every group has a problem], + that
 I am really undecided with it, because maintaining it means, maintaining the crypto library, the API changes and the go/qml  bindings. Furthermore the database needs a rework because it loads always all messages and if ram is full the app breaks
 Did that just make my phone reboot when opening the app..? :D
 Perhaps could be 😜😜
 If someone steps in, and if I am not alone with all this tasks, then I will be for sure motivated to continue.
 Would help, but I can only translate... I don't know go. :/
 is it just using QML LocalStorage for the db stuff? or something else?
 It uses sqlite
 from the golang side?
 And all the db handling happens in go
 ah ok :-/
 And the most important bit that is the bridge between qml and go is written in assembler
 wait, what?!
 oh, no not really
 there is a tiny bit of assembler
 https://github.com/nanu-c/qml-go/blob/master/cdata/cdata_arm.s
 yes, it's a very tiny bit
 and not well documented
 But it has to be adjusted to every platform
 Actually I don't know any assembler
 for a very specific thing, not for general issues
 Instead of push, would it be possible to just start the app every n minutes so it can load messages..?
 At least until OWS decides to push to ubports
 @DC7IA [Instead of push, would it be possible to just start the app every n minutes so i …], Not currently. There's no way for an app to hold a background service or get started on an interval
 Unless it's naughty like Dekko
 there is a somewhat less naughty way to do it
 You're talking account-polld?
 yeah
 Makes sense
 @nanu_c [Until now not you can file an issue on GitHub], done
 does account-polld supports websocket?
 no; it would spawn your helper binary/script which has a few seconds to do the work
 and i'm not sure what the format of the json is to register said helper
 "Do your work, you will die in a few seconds" xd
 "Do your work, you will die in a few seconds" xD
 Without restrictions you end up with Electron
 oh jeez did I say that out loud
 @dohbee [no; it would spawn your helper binary/script which has a few seconds to do the w …], Would that be enough to load messages once in a while? @nanu_c
 actually it check's it atm once in the minute
 Just tried deleting the DB, but that makes no difference :/
 The thing is: If I re-register, I will have the same problem again.
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 One thing that is bugging me: … I can't find a way to select text so I can copy/paste it. … How do I select something..?
 @DC7IA [One thing that is bugging me: … I can't find a way to select text so I can copy/p …], hold press on the text, move second cursor on area of text selected as needed to change what text is selected, press "Copy" icon.  Go to app that you wish to paste into and hold-press "Paste" icon
 ... although sometimes this is buggy and not consistent between apps
 @Javacookies has been creating some OSK improvements that might make these easier once they are completed
 [Edit] @Javacookies has been creating some OSK improvements that might make these tasks easier once they are completed
 Tried copying a URL in the browser.. I either selected LOTS of text also or just a part of the URL.
 @TotalSonic [@Javacookies has been creating some OSK improvements that might make these tasks …], \o/
 this is super cool - can't wait until it actually makes it into UT - https://youtu.be/Qh_CkiM4nyQ
 earlier vid with some of the functionality on better display - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKlWif0YhI
 (Photo, 1280x697) https://irc.ubports.com/pa8A00d6.png first step for debugging, clickable desktop works now
 @nanu_c [<reply to media>], (Selecting text was not meant as Signal-specific)
 (Upsi i tried to response to another message)
 So I tried Anbox, but don't need it and prefer battery. … How do I uninstall it?
[23:23] <ubptgbot> <A C> Duck duck go uses Google to search
 @DC7IA [So I tried Anbox, but don't need it and prefer battery. … How do I uninstall it?], reflash without wipe, or perhaps switching between rc amd stable may be sufficient
 I want to use devel anyway, so let's see
 currently the difference between rc and devel is sufficient to clean rootfs not sure if the difference between rc and devel is also sufficient
 @Fuseteam [currently the difference between rc and devel is sufficient to clean rootfs not …], rc and devel = rc and devel … ?
 rc is release candidate which updated weekly
 devel is daily :p
 Yeah
 Which is why I want devel
 hmhm which one are you on now?
 Went from RC to devel. Icons are still there, but anbox image seems gone. How do I get rid of it completely..?