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| tdaitx | o/ | 14:59 |
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| cyphermox | o/ | 15:00 |
| * vorlon waves | 15:01 | |
| waveform | o/ | 15:01 |
| vorlon | tdaitx: you're chairing, correct? | 15:01 |
| tdaitx | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Jul 18 15:01:51 2019 UTC. The chair is tdaitx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:01 |
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| tdaitx | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:02 |
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| tdaitx | echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform) | 15:02 |
| tdaitx | doko tdaitx juliank cyphermox mwhudson xnox bdmurray sil2100 vorlon rbalint infinity waveform | 15:02 |
| juliank | lol | 15:03 |
| * juliank disappears again | 15:03 | |
| vorlon | doko: are you here or are you conference-idle? | 15:04 |
| tdaitx | ok, I am going | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | * jck 11 | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | - splitting into separated snaps for upload | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | - fixing a few more test failures from the runtime testsuite | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | * openjdk-11 & openjdk-8 security update | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | - fixed build + autopkgtests tests | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | - local build tests + ppa upload for sanity checking | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | Other: | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | - will be at debconf next week | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | - away on vacation from Aug 1st to 18th (2 weeks from now) | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | (done) | 15:05 |
| tdaitx | juliank: go! =) | 15:05 |
| cyphermox | cyphermox: | 15:05 |
| cyphermox | off next week: monday and tuesday for move | 15:05 |
| cyphermox | grub efi testing and debugging (side-effect of merging and conflicting patches) | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | uploaded grub2 2.04 merge | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | investigating chainloader issues loading EFI binaries from bootctl | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | speccing NM plugin work | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | speccing netplan renderer for openvswitch | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | preparing new shim release / upload, carrying over the shim upload Dann prepared (and herding cats to get it reviewed) | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | I do need to do some aggressive upstreaming of grub patches | 15:06 |
| doko | online, but unprepared ... | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | no mwhudson | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | xnox: you're up | 15:07 |
| xnox | * building core20 snap off eoan => it work! * progressing with ubuntu-core-initramfs => debugging systemd is fun! * code reviews * packaging to go to debconf & toronto product sprints. Done | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | xnox: packaging for debconf? | 15:07 |
| xnox | bdmurray: >_< packing | 15:08 |
| xnox | bdmurray: same difference | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | modified daisy jobs and oops-repository code to use consistency level of ONE for new cassandra DC | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | submitted RT regarding updating daisy to r837 w/ consistency level changes | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | updated daisy to stop accepting crashes from Ubuntu 18.10 | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | modified daisy and oops-repository to stop using unicode in package and version which fails when writing to cassandra | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | submitted RT regarding updating daisy to r841 w/ unicode changes | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | submitted ET mojo spec MP switching to staging PPA for staging Error Tracker | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | uploaded laney's changes to whoopsie to eoan | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | SRU verification of bug 1829968 for 18.04, 18.10, 19.04 | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | further research into ubiquity minimum installation sizes | 15:08 |
| ubottu | bug 1829968 in base-files (Ubuntu Cosmic) "motd [on at least some instances] does not auto-update daily" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829968 | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | — done | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | ✓ done | 15:09 |
| vorlon | and sil2100 is away | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | this is from sil2100 email: | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - Slightly shorter week - was half-there on Friday | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - SRU reviews and releases | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - New core18 release phasing | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - Gadget snap promotions, re-spinning 2 that were missing some fixes (cm3, pi3) | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - Coordinating the release of the rust 1.35.0 update, publishing it to | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | -updates/-security | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - Updating RustUpdates slightly | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - Finalizing the NEW review of dpf-plugins | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - Testing some scenarios of classic preinstalled Ubuntu images grub | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | package upgrades | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | * Started thinking about what our design should be here, will modify | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | my current solution slightly | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - Refereshed netplan's PR for enabling support for hashed passwords in | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | 802.1x and added tests | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - Started investigation of autopkgtest regression bug comments | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | sometimes commenting when no failures are present | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - Investigating a false alarm regarding the pi gadgets and cm3+ | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | support (coming from ogra) | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | sil2100: netplan PR <3 | 15:10 |
| tdaitx | (done) | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | (I know he's not there, but my cheerleading will be in the logs for posteriority) | 15:10 |
| vorlon | * short week: was out last Friday and again yesterday | 15:10 |
| vorlon | * fixing various autopkgtests that were blocking glibc and linux in -proposed | 15:10 |
| vorlon | * SRU spot reviews (having missed my SRU Friday) for regression-updates (apache2) | 15:10 |
| vorlon | * prepping for the Toronto sprint | 15:10 |
| vorlon | * discussions around interesting partner SecureBoot requirements | 15:10 |
| vorlon | (done) | 15:10 |
| vorlon | rbalint is off | 15:11 |
| vorlon | infinity not here | 15:11 |
| vorlon | waveform: | 15:11 |
| doko | - vacation on Fri/Mon, traveling on Tue | 15:11 |
| doko | - now at DebCamp | 15:11 |
| waveform | * Worked on pi4 u-boot; patches are now available from agherzan's u-boot fork but I have yet to get them working with our u-boot (successfully built patches on our version but while it worked on pi3, it failed on pi4; will probably need to bump u-boot) | 15:11 |
| waveform | * Worked on core+classic combined boot script (need to talk to snapd team about modifying the A/B support) | 15:11 |
| waveform | * Investigated lack of splash screen on core 18 (no conclusion as yet: psplash seems intact and the boot script certainly loads it, but nothing is displayed) | 15:11 |
| waveform | * Tested package to SRU linux-firmware-raspi2 to bionic (for CM3+ and 3B+ boot support) | 15:11 |
| waveform | (done) | 15:11 |
| doko | (done) | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | anything else before we move to incoming bugs? | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | vorlon: what is the status of that apache2 upload? Does it need releasing? | 15:13 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: yes | 15:13 |
| bdmurray | Is that something you need help with? | 15:13 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: I can take care of it this morning | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | tdaitx: bug time? | 15:15 |
| tdaitx | #topic Release incoming bugs (eoan) | 15:15 |
| tdaitx | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:15 |
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| bdmurray | Do we start with Undecided or Critical and High first? | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | Lets say undecided | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | bug 1833758 sil2100 was going to test something | 15:16 |
| ubottu | bug 1833758 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "lvm2: vgcfgbackup in postinst takes several minutes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1833758 | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | bug 1836782 loooks new | 15:16 |
| ubottu | bug 1836782 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) ""ubi-partman failed with exit code 10" when stepping back and forward over partitioning screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1836782 | 15:16 |
| vorlon | ¯\(シ)/¯ | 15:16 |
| xnox | exit code 10 suggests "question not found from debconf" | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | 19.04? | 15:17 |
| xnox | could happen if like a disk falls off the bus | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | Sounds like he clicked back when he shouldn't have | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | Regardless it needs testing in Eoan | 15:18 |
| cyphermox | yup | 15:18 |
| cyphermox | I can haz a look | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | Okay, thanks | 15:18 |
| cyphermox | I'm going to be doing some reinstalls next week | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | Importance Medium? | 15:18 |
| vorlon | a disk fell off the back of the bus? | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | dabus | 15:19 |
| bdmurray | dbus! | 15:19 |
| cyphermox | feels like it's maybe some crash because of weirdness in the partitioning | 15:19 |
| bdmurray | remind me about partitioning weirdness | 15:19 |
| vorlon | targetting/carding | 15:19 |
| cyphermox | I'll give a shot to weird partitioning I can thing of and see if I can reproduce on eoan and 18.04 | 15:19 |
| bdmurray | okay moving back to High | 15:20 |
| bdmurray | bug 1829805 | 15:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1829805 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Eoan Daily Image fails to boot after install on KVM" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829805 | 15:20 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: so 1833758 stays in limbo because sil2100 is going to test "something"? | 15:20 |
| bdmurray | vorlon: whether or not it affects the build environment iirc | 15:20 |
| vorlon | even if it did, I don't think that would make it a bug we need to commit to for eoan | 15:21 |
| vorlon | we have plenty of other fish to fry | 15:21 |
| bdmurray | ah, alright | 15:21 |
| cyphermox | calamares breaking things? | 15:21 |
| vorlon | calamares exposing a regression in initramfs-tools behavior that doesn't affect other install paths | 15:22 |
| bdmurray | I'll do some detective work on it | 15:22 |
| vorlon | this was discussed on #ubuntu-release at the time but the bug did not get updated; bdmurray to dig it out | 15:22 |
| ogra | tdaitx, note that the false alarm is caused by cdimage dirs for core being a giant mess :) (/me expecting that "stable/current" actually has something stable and current :P, i know others from my team ran into similar issues before trying to get the last stable image from cdimage) ... the dir structure needs cleanup | 15:23 |
| vorlon | but I think we should also decline committing to the bug in question given that the impact is now ~0 | 15:23 |
| vorlon | ogra: that was a paste of sil2100's status, you're playing telephone | 15:24 |
| ogra | oops | 15:24 |
| ogra | i didnt notice, sorry ... only saw the ping | 15:24 |
| vorlon | also it's false that stable/current is not the current stable | 15:24 |
| bdmurray | bug 1834226 has a tag for a card and a release task so untagging | 15:24 |
| ubottu | bug 1834226 in software-properties (Ubuntu Eoan) "update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1834226 | 15:24 |
| * vorlon nods | 15:25 | |
| bdmurray | bug 1798992 is also tagged like there is a card | 15:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1798992 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Fresh minimal desktop installation has packages pending autoremoval, pending updates" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798992 | 15:25 |
| vorlon | that bug was previously duped, then got unduped the other day per discussion w/ submitter on irc | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | and the card is archived too | 15:26 |
| vorlon | yeah I'll unarchive it | 15:27 |
| ogra | vorlon, well, the cm3+ support is only in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/18/current/ ... not in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/18/stable/current/ ... i tested the latter, developerd a PR with a fix and was then told the fix is in current/ ... the structure is confusing and it isnt easy to catch that "current" is a daily build from edge | 15:27 |
| bdmurray | so open a release task on the bug then? | 15:27 |
| vorlon | yes | 15:27 |
| vorlon | ogra: correct, the directory structure is busted and 18/current should be 18/edge/current but isn't because I haven't fixed ubuntu-cdimage to DTRT | 15:28 |
| bdmurray | bug 1836064 is already carded etc | 15:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1836064 in glibc (Ubuntu Eoan) "glibc needs an update for linux-5.2 kernel headers (alpha)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1836064 | 15:28 |
| bdmurray | and systemd has missing builds | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | bug 1835809 | 15:29 |
| ubottu | bug 1835809 in systemd (Ubuntu Eoan) "AMD Ryzen 3000 series fails to boot" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835809 | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | regardless though that has a task already so dropping the tag | 15:30 |
| vorlon | the glibc one only impacts the build of gcc-9-cross-ports which is not in main | 15:30 |
| vorlon | from a Foundations pov we should decline it | 15:31 |
| vorlon | (because doko could work around this by dropping alpha as a target) | 15:31 |
| vorlon | so I'm adding rls-ee-notfixing | 15:31 |
| doko | I worked around it adding the fix | 15:32 |
| vorlon | ok | 15:32 |
| doko | but it should be added to glibc proper for the next upload | 15:32 |
| doko | sugessting an action involving four source packages is not appropriate | 15:32 |
| vorlon | I'm not suggesting any action except that this is not a priority for Foundations to track at a team level | 15:33 |
| vorlon | you can work out landing the fix w/ the glibc maintainer without it being part of the cognitive load of the team | 15:34 |
| vorlon | bdmurray, tdaitx: I think that's all the ee bugs, right? | 15:35 |
| bdmurray | vorlon: Yes, all the high and undecided ones | 15:35 |
| tdaitx | #topic Release incoming bugs (bionic) | 15:35 |
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| tdaitx | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | The only one there was still tagged when it had a task. | 15:37 |
| bdmurray | So that's done. | 15:37 |
| tdaitx | proposed migration then? | 15:38 |
| vorlon | yes please | 15:38 |
| tdaitx | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:38 |
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| tdaitx | #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:39 |
| vorlon | I've just now pushed retries of various flaky tests blocking readline and bison (network-manager, automake-1.16, cmake) | 15:39 |
| vorlon | geoip-database is unmigratable in Debian unstable and in -proposed because it drops a binary package which has revdeps | 15:39 |
| vorlon | so someone could follow through on that, make sure debian bugs are filed, recommend removal of the packages depending on the NBS package, etc | 15:39 |
| vorlon | I've also just done a batch retry of the failures blocking bzip2, which are likely largely flaky and/or fallout of the dkms breakage which is now fixed | 15:40 |
| vorlon | looks like that takes us down to aptdaemon? | 15:41 |
| vorlon | who wants to take each of geoip-database and aptdaemon | 15:41 |
| vorlon | aptdaemon hilariously is a real test regression introduced by changed lintian output | 15:42 |
| vorlon | <crickets, crickets> | 15:42 |
| vorlon | waveform: you want one of these? | 15:42 |
| waveform | vorlon, not especially while I'm neck deep in pi4 u-boot :) | 15:44 |
| vorlon | heh | 15:44 |
| vorlon | well none of these are particularly urgent, but we are going to need to get to them sooner or later | 15:44 |
| tdaitx | should we card those? | 15:44 |
| vorlon | have we been carding stuck -proposed packages? | 15:45 |
| vorlon | they tend to be bitesized | 15:45 |
| tdaitx | ok | 15:45 |
| vorlon | like, if you tell me I need to card them I might fix them both myself and then guilt y'all later | 15:45 |
| vorlon | but if no one has capacity to take these on, we should just skip for now and move on to the next topic | 15:47 |
| cyphermox | geoip-database | 15:47 |
| tdaitx | #topic Chair selection for next meeting | 15:47 |
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| cyphermox | (this was me claiming one) | 15:48 |
| vorlon | cyphermox: ta :) | 15:48 |
| tdaitx | cyphermox: want to claim chair for next meeting as well? | 15:48 |
| cyphermox | sure. | 15:48 |
| vorlon | cyphermox: lua-geoip, no bug filed yet in Debian | 15:48 |
| cyphermox | oh wait | 15:48 |
| cyphermox | sorry, I would prefer not to claim chair for next week | 15:48 |
| tdaitx | ok, any volunteers? | 15:48 |
| cyphermox | I will be mostly on cellular next week, only getting Interwebs plugged in in Thu PM | 15:49 |
| cyphermox | vorlon: wee, lua ang geoip, WCPGW | 15:49 |
| vorlon | cyphermox: (it might be as simple as updating the binary dep, or dropping the package since it has no revdeps) | 15:50 |
| waveform | I can do it | 15:50 |
| cyphermox | yep | 15:50 |
| vorlon | waveform: ta :) | 15:50 |
| cyphermox | waveform: ta | 15:50 |
| cyphermox | I can right away offer to do the following week | 15:50 |
| tdaitx | #topic AOB | 15:50 |
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| bdmurray | I'm taking a half day tomorrow so I can go wear my Aloha shirt in the appropriate venue. | 15:51 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: into a small municipality adjacent to Beaverton? | 15:51 |
| cyphermox | I'm off Monday and Tuesday, and internet-challenged for most of the week. If you see I'm not responding next week on IRC, Telegram *will* work. | 15:51 |
| tdaitx | I will be on vacations from Aug 1st to 18th, not even a cellphone working from Aug 4th onwards | 15:52 |
| vorlon | end of meeting? | 15:54 |
| tdaitx | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Jul 18 15:54:35 2019 UTC. | 15:54 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-07-18-15.01.moin.txt | 15:54 |
| tdaitx | thanks y'all! | 15:54 |
| vorlon | thanks! | 15:54 |
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