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[14:59] <tdaitx> o/
[15:00] <cyphermox> o/
[15:01]  * vorlon waves
[15:01] <waveform> o/
[15:01] <vorlon> tdaitx: you're chairing, correct?
[15:01] <tdaitx> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jul 18 15:01:51 2019 UTC.  The chair is tdaitx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:02] <tdaitx> #topic Lightning rounds
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[15:02] <tdaitx> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)
[15:02] <tdaitx> doko tdaitx juliank cyphermox mwhudson xnox bdmurray sil2100 vorlon rbalint infinity waveform
[15:03] <juliank> lol
[15:03]  * juliank disappears again
[15:04] <vorlon> doko: are you here or are you conference-idle?
[15:05] <tdaitx> ok, I am going
[15:05] <tdaitx> * jck 11
[15:05] <tdaitx>   - splitting into separated snaps for upload
[15:05] <tdaitx>   - fixing a few more test failures from the runtime testsuite
[15:05] <tdaitx> * openjdk-11 & openjdk-8 security update
[15:05] <tdaitx>   - fixed build + autopkgtests tests
[15:05] <tdaitx>   - local build tests + ppa upload for sanity checking
[15:05] <tdaitx> Other:
[15:05] <tdaitx> - will be at debconf next week
[15:05] <tdaitx> - away on vacation from Aug 1st to 18th (2 weeks from now)
[15:05] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:05] <tdaitx> juliank: go! =)
[15:05] <cyphermox> cyphermox:
[15:05] <cyphermox> off next week: monday and tuesday for move
[15:06] <cyphermox> grub efi testing and debugging (side-effect of merging and conflicting patches)
[15:06] <cyphermox> uploaded grub2 2.04 merge
[15:06] <cyphermox> investigating chainloader issues loading EFI binaries from bootctl
[15:06] <cyphermox> speccing NM plugin work
[15:06] <cyphermox> speccing netplan renderer for openvswitch
[15:06] <cyphermox> preparing new shim release / upload, carrying over the shim upload Dann prepared (and herding cats to get it reviewed)
[15:06] <cyphermox> I do need to do some aggressive upstreaming of grub patches
[15:06] <doko> online, but unprepared ...
[15:06] <bdmurray> no mwhudson
[15:07] <bdmurray> xnox: you're up
[15:07] <xnox> * building core20 snap off eoan => it work! * progressing with ubuntu-core-initramfs => debugging systemd is fun! * code reviews * packaging to go to debconf & toronto product sprints. Done
[15:07] <bdmurray> xnox: packaging for debconf?
[15:08] <xnox> bdmurray:  >_< packing
[15:08] <xnox> bdmurray:  same difference
[15:08] <bdmurray> modified daisy jobs and oops-repository code to use consistency level of ONE for new cassandra DC
[15:08] <bdmurray> submitted RT regarding updating daisy to r837 w/ consistency level changes
[15:08] <bdmurray> updated daisy to stop accepting crashes from Ubuntu 18.10
[15:08] <bdmurray> modified daisy and oops-repository to stop using unicode in package and version which fails when writing to cassandra
[15:08] <bdmurray> submitted RT regarding updating daisy to r841 w/ unicode changes
[15:08] <bdmurray> submitted ET mojo spec MP switching to staging PPA for staging Error Tracker
[15:08] <bdmurray> uploaded laney's changes to whoopsie to eoan
[15:08] <bdmurray> SRU verification of bug 1829968 for 18.04, 18.10, 19.04
[15:08] <bdmurray> further research into ubiquity minimum installation sizes
[15:08] <ubottu> bug 1829968 in base-files (Ubuntu Cosmic) "motd [on at least some instances] does not auto-update daily" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829968
[15:08] <bdmurray> — done
[15:09] <bdmurray> ✓ done
[15:09] <vorlon> and sil2100 is away
[15:09] <tdaitx> this is from sil2100 email:
[15:09] <tdaitx> - Slightly shorter week - was half-there on Friday
[15:09] <tdaitx> - SRU reviews and releases
[15:09] <tdaitx> - New core18 release phasing
[15:09] <tdaitx> - Gadget snap promotions, re-spinning 2 that were missing some fixes (cm3, pi3)
[15:09] <tdaitx> - Coordinating the release of the rust 1.35.0 update, publishing it to
[15:09] <tdaitx> -updates/-security
[15:09] <tdaitx> - Updating RustUpdates slightly
[15:09] <tdaitx> - Finalizing the NEW review of dpf-plugins
[15:09] <tdaitx> - Testing some scenarios of classic preinstalled Ubuntu images grub
[15:09] <tdaitx> package upgrades
[15:09] <tdaitx>   * Started thinking about what our design should be here, will modify
[15:09] <tdaitx> my current solution slightly
[15:09] <tdaitx> - Refereshed netplan's PR for enabling support for hashed passwords in
[15:09] <tdaitx> 802.1x and added tests
[15:09] <tdaitx> - Started investigation of autopkgtest regression bug comments
[15:09] <tdaitx> sometimes commenting when no failures are present
[15:09] <tdaitx> - Investigating a false alarm regarding the pi gadgets and cm3+
[15:09] <tdaitx> support (coming from ogra)
[15:10] <cyphermox> sil2100: netplan PR <3
[15:10] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:10] <cyphermox> (I know he's not there, but my cheerleading will be in the logs for posteriority)
[15:10] <vorlon>  * short week: was out last Friday and again yesterday
[15:10] <vorlon>  * fixing various autopkgtests that were blocking glibc and linux in -proposed
[15:10] <vorlon>  * SRU spot reviews (having missed my SRU Friday) for regression-updates (apache2)
[15:10] <vorlon>  * prepping for the Toronto sprint
[15:10] <vorlon>  * discussions around interesting partner SecureBoot requirements
[15:10] <vorlon> (done)
[15:11] <vorlon> rbalint is off
[15:11] <vorlon> infinity not here
[15:11] <vorlon> waveform:
[15:11] <doko> - vacation on Fri/Mon, traveling on Tue
[15:11] <doko> - now at DebCamp
[15:11] <waveform> * Worked on pi4 u-boot; patches are now available from agherzan's u-boot fork but I have yet to get them working with our u-boot (successfully built patches on our version but while it worked on pi3, it failed on pi4; will probably need to bump u-boot)
[15:11] <waveform> * Worked on core+classic combined boot script (need to talk to snapd team about modifying the A/B support)
[15:11] <waveform> * Investigated lack of splash screen on core 18 (no conclusion as yet: psplash seems intact and the boot script certainly loads it, but nothing is displayed)
[15:11] <waveform> * Tested package to SRU linux-firmware-raspi2 to bionic (for CM3+ and 3B+ boot support)
[15:11] <waveform> (done)
[15:11] <doko> (done)
[15:12] <tdaitx> anything else before we move to incoming bugs?
[15:13] <bdmurray> vorlon: what is the status of that apache2 upload? Does it need releasing?
[15:13] <vorlon> bdmurray: yes
[15:13] <bdmurray> Is that something you need help with?
[15:14] <vorlon> bdmurray: I can take care of it this morning
[15:15] <bdmurray> tdaitx: bug time?
[15:15] <tdaitx> #topic Release incoming bugs (eoan)
[15:15] <tdaitx> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
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[15:15] <bdmurray> Do we start with Undecided or Critical and High first?
[15:16] <bdmurray> Lets say undecided
[15:16] <bdmurray> bug 1833758 sil2100 was going to test something
[15:16] <ubottu> bug 1833758 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "lvm2: vgcfgbackup in postinst takes several minutes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1833758
[15:16] <bdmurray> bug 1836782 loooks new
[15:16] <ubottu> bug 1836782 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) ""ubi-partman failed with exit code 10" when stepping back and forward over partitioning screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1836782
[15:16] <vorlon> ¯\(シ)/¯
[15:17] <xnox> exit code 10 suggests "question not found from debconf"
[15:17] <bdmurray> 19.04?
[15:17] <xnox> could happen if like a disk falls off the bus
[15:18] <bdmurray> Sounds like he clicked back when he shouldn't have
[15:18] <bdmurray> Regardless it needs testing in Eoan
[15:18] <cyphermox> yup
[15:18] <cyphermox> I can haz a look
[15:18] <bdmurray> Okay, thanks
[15:18] <cyphermox> I'm going to be doing some reinstalls next week
[15:18] <bdmurray> Importance Medium?
[15:18] <vorlon> a disk fell off the back of the bus?
[15:19] <bdmurray> dabus
[15:19] <bdmurray> dbus!
[15:19] <cyphermox> feels like it's maybe some crash because of weirdness in the partitioning
[15:19] <bdmurray> remind me about partitioning weirdness
[15:19] <vorlon> targetting/carding
[15:19] <cyphermox> I'll give a shot to weird partitioning I can thing of and see if I can reproduce on eoan and 18.04
[15:20] <bdmurray> okay moving back to High
[15:20] <bdmurray> bug 1829805
[15:20] <ubottu> bug 1829805 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Eoan Daily Image fails to boot after install on KVM" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829805
[15:20] <vorlon> bdmurray: so 1833758 stays in limbo because sil2100 is going to test "something"?
[15:20] <bdmurray> vorlon: whether or not it affects the build environment iirc
[15:21] <vorlon> even if it did, I don't think that would make it a bug we need to commit to for eoan
[15:21] <vorlon> we have plenty of other fish to fry
[15:21] <bdmurray> ah, alright
[15:21] <cyphermox> calamares breaking things?
[15:22] <vorlon> calamares exposing a regression in initramfs-tools behavior that doesn't affect other install paths
[15:22] <bdmurray> I'll do some detective work on it
[15:22] <vorlon> this was discussed on #ubuntu-release at the time but the bug did not get updated; bdmurray to dig it out
[15:23] <ogra> tdaitx, note that the false alarm is caused by cdimage dirs for core being a giant mess :) (/me expecting that "stable/current" actually has something stable and current :P, i know others from my team ran into similar issues before trying to get the last stable image from cdimage) ... the dir structure needs cleanup
[15:23] <vorlon> but I think we should also decline committing to the bug in question given that the impact is now ~0
[15:24] <vorlon> ogra: that was a paste of sil2100's status, you're playing telephone
[15:24] <ogra> oops
[15:24] <ogra> i didnt notice, sorry ... only saw the ping
[15:24] <vorlon> also it's false that stable/current is not the current stable
[15:24] <bdmurray> bug 1834226 has a tag for a card and a release task so untagging
[15:24] <ubottu> bug 1834226 in software-properties (Ubuntu Eoan) "update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1834226
[15:25]  * vorlon nods
[15:25] <bdmurray> bug 1798992 is also tagged like there is a card
[15:25] <ubottu> bug 1798992 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Fresh minimal desktop installation has packages pending autoremoval, pending updates" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798992
[15:26] <vorlon> that bug was previously duped, then got unduped the other day per discussion w/ submitter on irc
[15:26] <bdmurray> and the card is archived too
[15:27] <vorlon> yeah I'll unarchive it
[15:27] <ogra> vorlon, well, the cm3+ support is only in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/18/current/ ... not in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/18/stable/current/ ... i tested the latter, developerd a PR with a fix and was then told the fix is in current/ ... the structure is confusing and it isnt easy to catch that "current" is a daily build from edge
[15:27] <bdmurray> so open a release task on the bug then?
[15:27] <vorlon> yes
[15:28] <vorlon> ogra: correct, the directory structure is busted and 18/current should be 18/edge/current but isn't because I haven't fixed ubuntu-cdimage to DTRT
[15:28] <bdmurray> bug 1836064 is already carded etc
[15:28] <ubottu> bug 1836064 in glibc (Ubuntu Eoan) "glibc needs an update for linux-5.2 kernel headers (alpha)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1836064
[15:29] <bdmurray> and systemd has missing builds
[15:29] <bdmurray> bug 1835809
[15:29] <ubottu> bug 1835809 in systemd (Ubuntu Eoan) "AMD Ryzen 3000 series fails to boot" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835809
[15:30] <bdmurray> regardless though that has a task already so dropping the tag
[15:30] <vorlon> the glibc one only impacts the build of gcc-9-cross-ports which is not in main
[15:31] <vorlon> from a Foundations pov we should decline it
[15:31] <vorlon> (because doko could work around this by dropping alpha as a target)
[15:31] <vorlon> so I'm adding rls-ee-notfixing
[15:32] <doko> I worked around it adding the fix
[15:32] <vorlon> ok
[15:32] <doko> but it should be added to glibc proper for the next upload
[15:32] <doko> sugessting an action involving four source packages is not appropriate
[15:33] <vorlon> I'm not suggesting any action except that this is not a priority for Foundations to track at a team level
[15:34] <vorlon> you can work out landing the fix w/ the glibc maintainer without it being part of the cognitive load of the team
[15:35] <vorlon> bdmurray, tdaitx: I think that's all the ee bugs, right?
[15:35] <bdmurray> vorlon: Yes, all the high and undecided ones
[15:35] <tdaitx> #topic Release incoming bugs (bionic)
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[15:36] <tdaitx> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:37] <bdmurray> The only one there was still tagged when it had a task.
[15:37] <bdmurray> So that's done.
[15:38] <tdaitx> proposed migration then?
[15:38] <vorlon> yes please
[15:38] <tdaitx> #topic Team proposed-migration report
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[15:39] <tdaitx> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:39] <vorlon> I've just now pushed retries of various flaky tests blocking readline and bison (network-manager, automake-1.16, cmake)
[15:39] <vorlon> geoip-database is unmigratable in Debian unstable and in -proposed because it drops a binary package which has revdeps
[15:39] <vorlon> so someone could follow through on that, make sure debian bugs are filed, recommend removal of the packages depending on the NBS package, etc
[15:40] <vorlon> I've also just done a batch retry of the failures blocking bzip2, which are likely largely flaky and/or fallout of the dkms breakage which is now fixed
[15:41] <vorlon> looks like that takes us down to aptdaemon?
[15:41] <vorlon> who wants to take each of geoip-database and aptdaemon
[15:42] <vorlon> aptdaemon hilariously is a real test regression introduced by changed lintian output
[15:42] <vorlon> <crickets, crickets>
[15:42] <vorlon> waveform: you want one of these?
[15:44] <waveform> vorlon, not especially while I'm neck deep in pi4 u-boot :)
[15:44] <vorlon> heh
[15:44] <vorlon> well none of these are particularly urgent, but we are going to need to get to them sooner or later
[15:44] <tdaitx> should we card those?
[15:45] <vorlon> have we been carding stuck -proposed packages?
[15:45] <vorlon> they tend to be bitesized
[15:45] <tdaitx> ok
[15:45] <vorlon> like, if you tell me I need to card them I might fix them both myself and then guilt y'all later
[15:47] <vorlon> but if no one has capacity to take these on, we should just skip for now and move on to the next topic
[15:47] <cyphermox> geoip-database
[15:47] <tdaitx> #topic Chair selection for next meeting
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[15:48] <cyphermox> (this was me claiming one)
[15:48] <vorlon> cyphermox: ta :)
[15:48] <tdaitx> cyphermox: want to claim chair for next meeting as well?
[15:48] <cyphermox> sure.
[15:48] <vorlon> cyphermox: lua-geoip, no bug filed yet in Debian
[15:48] <cyphermox> oh wait
[15:48] <cyphermox> sorry, I would prefer not to claim chair for next week
[15:48] <tdaitx> ok, any volunteers?
[15:49] <cyphermox> I will be mostly on cellular next week, only getting Interwebs plugged in in Thu PM
[15:49] <cyphermox> vorlon: wee, lua ang geoip, WCPGW
[15:50] <vorlon> cyphermox: (it might be as simple as updating the binary dep, or dropping the package since it has no revdeps)
[15:50] <waveform> I can do it
[15:50] <cyphermox> yep
[15:50] <vorlon> waveform: ta :)
[15:50] <cyphermox> waveform: ta
[15:50] <cyphermox> I can right away offer to do the following week
[15:50] <tdaitx> #topic AOB
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[15:51] <bdmurray> I'm taking a half day tomorrow so I can go wear my Aloha shirt in the appropriate venue.
[15:51] <vorlon> bdmurray: into a small municipality adjacent to Beaverton?
[15:51] <cyphermox> I'm off Monday and Tuesday, and internet-challenged for most of the week. If you see I'm not responding next week on IRC, Telegram *will* work.
[15:52] <tdaitx> I will be on vacations from Aug 1st to 18th, not even a cellphone working from Aug 4th onwards
[15:54] <vorlon> end of meeting?
[15:54] <tdaitx> #endmeeting
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[15:54] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jul 18 15:54:35 2019 UTC.
[15:54] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-07-18-15.01.moin.txt
[15:54] <tdaitx> thanks y'all!
[15:54] <vorlon> thanks!