[00:22] <well_laid_lawn> jonzen: you could check dmesg to see what the kernel has to say about it
[01:05] <swift110> hey all
[01:21] <rud0lf> hi
[04:48] <xubuntu35w> Hi there, I installed xubuntu on my laptop but I can't change the screen resolution because there was no dropdown list in monitor setting. Anyone could help me, please
[04:53] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu35w:  do you know what graphics card you have in the laptop ?
[04:54] <xubuntu35w> I don't know, how do I ?
[04:59] <well_laid_lawn> open a terminal and run the command    lspci | grep VGA
[05:00] <xubuntu35w> Okay I will try it after lunch break, thank you
[05:00] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[06:24] <xubuntu35w> I have vga compatible controller
[06:32] <xubuntu35w> I have vga compatible controller
[06:37] <xubuntu35w> dear well_laid_lawn : I have vga compatible controller
[06:48] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu35w:  that command should let you know if it is intel,amd or nvidia
[06:53] <xubuntu40w> Now I use in my laptop, command result are : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[06:54] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu40w:  that's an old laptop isn't it ?
[06:55] <well_laid_lawn> sis graphics are not very good
[06:55] <xubuntu40w> Yes, I bought it in 2010
[06:55] <well_laid_lawn> try the command   xrandr -q   that will let you know all the resolutions available
[06:56] <diogenes_> xubuntu40w, you have issues with resolution on sis graphics?
[06:56] <well_laid_lawn> there might have been an option to install a better driver but not with sis
[06:56] <well_laid_lawn> yes he does
[06:57] <xubuntu40w> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output defaultScreen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480default connected 640x480+0+0 0mm x 0mm   640x480       73.00*
[06:58] <xubuntu40w> My issue is the display too big
[07:01] <diogenes_> xubuntu40w, this used to be a working solution few years ago, does it work now i don't know because sis is a very old graphics chip, but you can try: https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.com/p/sis.html
[07:05] <xubuntu40w> unfortunately my laptop is i686, should I change the graphic card ?
[07:06] <diogenes_> xubuntu40w, but can it run 64 bit os? have tried?
[07:08] <xubuntu40w> my laptop's os is xubuntu 32 bit
[07:09] <diogenes_> xubuntu40w, i know that but if the processor is capable of running 64 bit instructions then you can install 64 bit xubuntu.
[07:09] <diogenes_> and apply that patch from the page i gave you.
[07:12] <xubuntu40w> Okay I will check my processor first
[07:13] <xubuntu40w> Dear well_laid_lawan and diegenes_ thanks for your kind attention
[07:13] <diogenes_> you're welcome
[07:21] <xubuntu40w> quit
[08:36] <nixo__> Hello! What's the supposed way to flash the cd on an usb drive? I tried with sudo `dd if=xubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M status=progress conv=noerror,sync` and it won't boot
[08:37] <diogenes_> nixo__, etcher
[08:39] <Spass[m]> You can also try "usb-creator-gtk" from the official *ubuntu repos, it should do the job just fine.
[08:41] <nixo__> Thanks, but none of them is available on the distro I'm on. With other distros usually dd works fine..
[08:43] <Spass[m]> Then download Etcher as an AppImage and run it - https://www.balena.io/etcher/
[08:43] <nixo__> etcher is based on electron? Why?! .-. Btw, I have no AppImage support, and won't run a binary blob anyway.
[08:44] <nixo__> Uh luckily using dd again worked
[08:44] <nixo__> maybe I forgot to sync the first time
[08:44] <diogenes_> nixo__, or try simply: sudo cp xubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso /dev/sdb
[08:45] <nixo__> diogenes: thanks :) solved!
[08:45] <diogenes_> ok
[08:45] <Spass[m]> No AppImage support? What are you running?
[08:46] <nixo__> Spass: guix
[08:47] <nixo__> wonderful distro, fsf approved. But when I need to lend a computer to others I need to use something more "standard". xubuntu is a nice compromise
[08:49] <nixo__> well, I _assume_ they are not supported, never tried honestly
[08:49] <Spass[m]> Yeah, sounds like a good solution for me. I heard about GuixSD before.
[08:52] <Spass[m]> Did they change the name from GuixSD to just (GNU) Guix recently?
[09:15] <nixo__> Couple of months ago I think, yes
[09:18] <Spass[m]> I'm just giving it a spin in my VM, let's see how it works with Xfce.
[09:36] <well_laid_lawn> there is a #guix chat
[09:40] <Spass[m]> Yeah, sorry for the offtopic.
[09:42] <well_laid_lawn> I wasn't concerned about that, just trying to be informative :)
[19:07] <n-iCe> hi
[22:48] <puff> Hi.  I have a laptop running ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS and most of the gnome menu bar icons are invisible.  The menu bar is just a black bar, with the date/time in the upper right corner and an icon for the terminal window I have open in the left. It looks like the widgets are there, if I hover over a spot I get the highlighting and if I click I get the widget menu, but the icons are invisible.
[22:48] <puff> Also, I'm not sure what I just did but I moved the terminal window so the bar at the top is off the screen.  Trying to drag it back using the scroll bar obviously doesn't work, and going to the outside of the scroll bar just resizes it.
[22:49] <puff> Ah, I just figured out I must have bumped the alt key and accidentally engaged the grab and move feature.
[22:49] <puff> Fixed that, still worrynig about the icons.
[22:50] <Spass[m]> hello puff are you using Ubuntu 16.04 with GNOME?
[22:51] <puff> Er, right, not gnome, it's xfce
[22:56] <Spass[m]> and changing your icon theme doesn't make any difference?
[22:57] <Spass[m]> can you post a screenshot of the issue maybe? here for example - https://imgbb.com/
[23:01] <Eickmeyer> Pretty sure Xubuntu 16.04 is past end-of-life.
[23:15] <Spass[m]> yup, technically ubuntu-base is still updated, so (most) security updates are still applied, but anyway it's probably not a good idea to run EOL distro, Xubuntu-specific packages will not be updated, and there is a possibility that they have some bugs/issues/security holes
[23:17] <tomreyn> puff: ^ in case you'll miss this otherwise
[23:19] <puff> tomreyn: thanks.
[23:20] <puff> Okay, so upgrade xubuntu. What's the safest way to do that?  At one point it was with apt, then people said to use the GUI, etc.
[23:22] <Spass[m]> I would use GUI, and before upgrading make a copy/backup of important files you have
[23:22] <Eickmeyer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades
[23:23] <Spass[m]> upgrades from LTS to LTS are a pretty big jump, so it's better to be prepared for a disaster (that said, it all should go smooth)
[23:23] <Spass[m]> do you use NVIDIA proprietary drivers?
[23:23] <puff> Okay, backups are always a good idea.
[23:23] <puff> Spass[m]: It should be stock.
[23:23] <puff> Spass[m]: I've messed with the NVIDIA drivers in the past, on a different laptop, I don't recall doing it with this one.
[23:24] <tomreyn> https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages could help you clean up apt / dpkg
[23:24] <puff> ?
[23:25] <Spass[m]> ok, I'm asking about NVIDIA drivers because from my experience it's better to do upgrades on Nouveau open-source driver
[23:26] <Spass[m]> I had an issue once when I upgraded on proprietary and the system didn't boot properly afterwards
[23:26] <Spass[m]> I had to remove old driver from the text console
[23:27] <Spass[m]> (but that could be an issue on my end, not sure)
[23:27] <tomreyn> that's the nvidia experience (TM)
[23:28] <tomreyn> this is likely to happen again if you stay on proprietary drivers until you start the upgrade.
[23:29] <tomreyn> chances are this will get better in the future, though.
[23:37] <puff> Spass[m]: aha.