| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9acac55de408: Add link to command line tutroail] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9acac55de408 | 00:25 | |
| wxl | ooh calamares is in release | 00:32 |
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| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: tags after successfully built on launchpad (i.e. on proposed) o …], Proposed | 01:17 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> As soon as it's accepted into proposed | 01:17 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It doesn't have to build even | 01:17 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1449 | 01:50 | |
| guiverc | wxl, fyi: calamares 3.2.11 install (on live), something-else into partition (no encryption) worked flawlessly | 03:00 |
| wxl | horray! | 03:02 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1451 | 03:05 | |
| guiverc | wxl, do you want me to try encrypted or other variations (unwilling to use entire disk sorry) | 03:15 |
| wxl | yes please guiverc | 03:18 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1453 | 03:18 | |
| wxl | hey everyone: ( you'll appreciate this @The_LoudSpeaker ) fyi: LXQt session can restart services including lxqt-globalkeys. | 03:19 |
| guiverc | observation: second install; on completion calamares has "restart now" box but I'm not getting the "eject disk/media" prior to reboot so it reboots into 'live' again... has this changed? (though i'll look again after next to ensure I'm not missing it) | 03:43 |
| wxl | i've heard rumours about that | 03:44 |
| wxl | guiverc: i just did one that wasn't FDE and i got the eject prompt | 03:56 |
| guiverc | wxl, just completed third on dell optiplex 780 (bios), NO eject prompt | 03:59 |
| wxl | guiverc: was that FDE? | 03:59 |
| guiverc | no full disk, replace-partition encrypted | 04:01 |
| wxl | i did a simple erase disk, no encryption | 04:01 |
| guiverc | my tests today have been manual-partition (partition), and replace-partition (no encrypt & encrypt) | 04:02 |
| wxl | can someone explain to me the exact differences between the four ppas in ~lubuntu-ci? | 04:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> can someone explain to me the exact differences between the four ppas in ~ …], The two -proposed PPAs are the raw output from the CI. stable is the latest version according to the changelog and unstable is the tip of upstream master. | 04:30 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> The two non-proposed PPAs are after Britney evaluates them. | 04:31 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Take packages from the "release pocket" PPAs. | 04:31 |
| wxl[m] | Hm ok | 04:32 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> he's a support powerhouse], +1 | 07:06 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> hey everyone: ( you'll appreciate this @The_LoudSpeaker ) fyi: LXQt sessio …], Noted. Thanks! | 07:14 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, Sorry wasn't there for meet. Slept at 12. Woke up now. … I don't have anything to say except that I tried the theme on my tv screen. It looks good imo. But I will run some more tests with different resolution settings. | 07:18 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> hey everyone: ( you'll appreciate this @The_LoudSpeaker ) fyi: LXQt sessio …], Wait you mean restarting the lxqt session i.e logging out and back in? | 09:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Wait you mean restarting the lxqt session i.e logging out and back in?], I think he means that if you go to the session "app" you can restart it from there, stop, start, disable autostart | 11:20 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1454 | 12:42 | |
| guiverc2 | wxl, fyi: just shutdown (menu leave->shutdown) thinkpad [sl510] using 'live 19.10', no press.enter.to eject message; it just shutdown | 13:12 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [I think he means that if you go to the session "app" you can restart it from the …], Ack | 13:48 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @lynorian there is a new papirus icon theme (from today) | 14:00 |
| wxl[m] | @tsimonq2 back to ci so stable is the latest release from upstream, even if our packages are behind? Also, why offer the pre-Britney PPAs publicly? | 15:39 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 back to ci so stable is the latest release from upstream, eve …], stable is the latest release according to the changelog in the packaging. We can't *not* have those PPAs public | 17:46 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: then what makes those any different from what we have in the archive? just that there may be packages in there that haven't been uploaded? | 17:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: then what makes those any different from what we have in the ar …], Right. Sometimes we bump the changelog in the stable branch when we want to test the new release but not the tip of master | 17:48 |
| wxl | ok what about the raw | 17:50 |
| wxl | ? | 17:50 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> unstable-ci-proposed is to unstable-ci as devel-proposed is to devel | 17:50 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Why don't we just make devel-proposed private? :P | 17:51 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> We have the exact same tooling running minus the autopkgtests | 17:51 |
| wxl | ok well i would only see really practical use for one of those 4 PPA 99% of the time | 17:51 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Two of those PPAs are never meant to be used | 17:52 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> The -proposed ones | 17:52 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> stable and unstable exist for staging | 17:52 |
| wxl | then we shouldn't make them public XD | 17:52 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> That wouldn't be in the spirit of free software | 17:53 |
| wxl | oh you mean like private channels | 17:53 |
| * wxl ducks | 17:53 | |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> That should only be used for non-public matters anyway | 17:54 |
| lubot | * tsimonq2 ducks | 17:54 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> The -proposed PPAs should stay public because there's nothing to hide there | 17:55 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> We should just very much encourage people to use the regular PPAs instead | 17:55 |
| wxl | there should be some documentation as such | 17:56 |
| wxl | as honestly i don't see the value of really using stable. you're not going to get much. | 17:56 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Not it | 17:56 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> XD | 17:56 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> The value of stable is very much right-before-archive testing | 17:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It'll be useful when I need to e.g. upload a new LXQt release | 17:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It's to make sure it all builds | 17:57 |
| wxl | that's fair | 17:57 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I can see times where we may want to test a newer version than what is in the archive but not the latest git version. | 17:59 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2 how often does the CI build? is it triggered upon new upload? | 18:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2 how often does the CI build? is it triggered upon new upload?], Triggered by Lugito on push to packaging and nightly at midnight Central US | 18:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Britney runs six times a day | 18:10 |
| wxl | so if i land something, boom, it starts building immediately | 18:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yes | 18:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It should, at least | 18:10 |
| wxl | build times seem a wee bit long but maybe that's just me | 18:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It's all in the publisher | 18:11 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It could probably be optimized to ensure binaries are just built and not published as well | 18:11 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Building *maybe* takes 5 minutes depending on the package | 18:11 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALde0adb450c9b: Move input/codecs to proper position in prefrences] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALde0adb450c9b | 18:12 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9171210fc3f0: Add input/codecs screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9171210fc3f0 | 18:34 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf83497469a0b: Add searching for shortcuts in vlc] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf83497469a0b | 18:47 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8da7c33ce313: Add vlc plugins extensions screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8da7c33ce313 | 18:59 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALedc1af1fdfc8: Rm unnesecary :] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALedc1af1fdfc8 | 19:07 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8c5adc364846: Add keyboard shortcut to clear playlist] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8c5adc364846 | 19:18 | |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: i guess to be fair i was looking at the times listed at ci.l.m | 19:24 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: oh and the nightly building is for unstable i'm assuming? or is that also triggered by upstream git pushes? | 19:28 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: lastly, what are the britney times? | 19:28 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALde6a67750891: Fix styling] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALde6a67750891 | 19:32 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1455 | 19:48 | |
| wxl | fantastic testcase for the CVE fix https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1454 | 19:48 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1454 | 19:48 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] Tj (Tj) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1456 | 20:10 | |
| TJ- | see what happens when non-crypto people dabble in crypto code and configuration! | 20:16 |
| wxl | hey they didn't roll their own TJ- | 20:38 |
| TJ- | wxl: they configured it insecurely because they didn't understand what *not* to do nor what hidden implications are. | 20:39 |
| wxl | true | 20:40 |
| TJ- | the art of systems configuration is to know the known unknowns :) | 20:40 |
| TJ- | they assumed that encrypted /boot/ was sufficient, only thinking of an off-line cold-boot attack | 20:42 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: ^ see my questions above re: the ci? maybe point me where i can find it? | 20:52 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: oh and the nightly building is for unstable i'm assuming? or is …], Just for unstable | 20:53 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: lastly, what are the britney times?], See the job config or the run times | 20:53 |
| wxl | where at? | 20:53 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Jenkins | 20:54 |
| wxl | is that in the repo? | 20:54 |
| kc2bez | CI.lubuntu.me | 20:54 |
| kc2bez | You should be able to fire off a build if you log in. | 20:55 |
| wxl | does a git push to upstream trigger an unstable build? | 20:55 |
| wxl | or it's only going to be at mignight? | 20:55 |
| kc2bez | That I don't know. | 20:55 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: ? | 20:55 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Pushes to upstream doesn't trigger it | 20:56 |
| wxl | kthx | 20:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> You're documenting all of this right? 😂😂 | 20:57 |
| wxl | yep | 20:57 |
| kc2bez | I think wxl meant "ack" | 20:58 |
| kc2bez | XD | 20:58 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> XD | 20:59 |
| wxl | ugh calculating everything from cdt lame | 20:59 |
| kc2bez | Center of the universe. | 20:59 |
| kc2bez | :D | 21:00 |
| wxl | https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/ci/ | 21:48 |
| kc2bez | wxl: Thank you. | 21:59 |
| wxl | np | 21:59 |
| wxl | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-flavors/2019-July/000001.html | 22:36 |
| kc2bez | Thanks again wxl | 22:38 |
| wxl | np² | 22:38 |
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