[01:20] <Fudge> man still getting this from live build
[01:20] <Fudge> [2019-07-19 11:13:18] lb_binary_syslinux
[01:20] <Fudge> P: Begin installing syslinux...
[01:20] <Fudge> E: Unable to locate package syslinux-themes-ubuntu-oneiric
[01:23] <sarnold> where did *that* come from? oneiric reached end of life in 2013 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[01:26] <Fudge> everytime i try to build an image I get that, building for disco amd64
[01:27] <Fudge> built the package form livecdroot-fs git
[01:32] <Fudge> I am just building this inside a directory, not a chroot or vm, maybe that is my error
[01:35] <jamesh> Fudge: which git repo?
[01:36] <jamesh> (i.e. is it possible you've picked some abandoned repo?)
[01:44] <duflu> Or have some old package installed
[02:36] <Fudge> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VjRfJzD8n9/
[02:40] <Fudge> jamesh:  yeah maybe im not, i thought lb was part of livecdroot-fs but i havent installed live-build from git, it's from archives
[03:17] <Fudge> does that actually help
[04:50] <Fudge> ill try with binary-images as iso and not iso-hybrid
[05:07] <Fudge> jamesh:  where is the live-build git repo ?
[06:00] <didrocks> good morning
[06:13] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[06:18] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:14] <marcustomlinson> morning duflu and didrocks
[07:14] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson
[07:16] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson
[07:29] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:29] <Wimpress> o/
[07:31] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, hey Wimpress
[07:32] <oSoMoN> hey didrocks, Wimpress
[07:35] <marcustomlinson> hey oSoMoN and Wimpress
[07:38] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN and Wimpress
[07:54] <Fudge> morning guys
[07:55] <marcustomlinson> morning Fudge
[07:55] <didrocks> hey Fudge
[07:56] <Fudge> sorry I was saying morning to you guys loL. It's still evening here.
[07:57] <Fudge> my bad
[07:58] <Trevinho> morning!
[08:00] <Fudge> Hi Trevinho
[08:00] <Trevinho> Fudge: hey
[08:03] <Fudge> so bit of an update for anyone who i've chatted with. I for quite some time have been trying to learn live build and thought i'd checked out the right git repository but first was debian, then i packaged livecd-rootfs but realised i was still using live-build from repos. So I am trying to find where live-build is maintained so I can build from master. Hopefully resolve some of the problems i'm
[08:03] <Fudge> having.
[08:03] <Laney> hi there
[08:04] <didrocks> hey Trevinho, Laney
[08:07] <willcooke> oopsm, forgot to open IRC
[08:07] <willcooke> morning all
[08:07] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:07] <Laney> hi didrocks willcooke
[08:08] <marcustomlinson> morning Trevinho Laney and willcooke
[08:08] <Fudge> Hi Laney  did you have a restful sleep
[08:13] <duflu> Morning Trevinho, Laney, willcooke
[08:16] <seb128> happy friday desktopers!
[08:18] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson Fudge duflu seb128!
[08:18] <Laney> Fudge: yeah pretty good thanks
[08:18] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:18] <Laney> not bad!
[08:19] <marcustomlinson> morning seb128
[08:19] <Laney> got to get ready to leave in a bit
[08:19] <Laney> you?
[08:20] <seb128> Fudge, that's bug #1739790, the fix is trivial see comment #3 but seems foundations doesn't want to support those kinds of build so aren't interested to upload a fix, I will probalby end up doing that
[08:22] <seb128> Laney, I'm ok, my summerflu is getting better, but now my gf got it and she is with the little one on fridays so I acted backups for some hours, it feels like it's going to be a busy day
[08:22] <seb128> also we leave for Spain tomorrow for 2 weeks but didn't start packing yet :-/
[08:23] <Laney> oh I forgot you were off!
[08:23] <Laney> :S
[08:23] <Laney> hope you both get well enough to enjoy that
[08:25] <seb128> thx
[08:27] <seb128> I hope you have a good flight
[08:27] <seb128> is that a direct one? how long?
[08:28] <didrocks> hey seb128
[08:28] <Trevinho> seb128: oh... Hey! sorry to hear you had flu
[08:28] <seb128> lut didrocks, en forme ?
[08:28] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[08:28] <seb128> hey Trevinho! yeah, in summer, wth :/
[08:29] <seb128> didrocks, ça va un peu mieux :)
[08:30] <Laney> 2 flights, 11:55 + 6 hour wait + 01:00
[08:31] <oSoMoN> that's a long journey
[08:32] <Laney> yeah :(
[08:32] <oSoMoN> (I know du_flu would disagree)
[08:34] <seb128> :-/
[08:34] <seb128> 6 hours wait for the 1hour also sucks :/
[08:34] <Laney> hope there's a place to shower / sleep
[08:44] <Fudge> seb128:  thanks I noticed the same bug , but must have missed comment 3 with a fix. I will look again
[08:45] <Fudge> seb128:  awesome that is great thank you for pointing that out for me.
[08:46] <seb128> np
[08:46] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, I manage to reliably crash gnome-shell by creating a symlink to a folder on my desktop, and then using the context menu to send it to the trash. Can't reproduce in a clean disco/eoan VM though. Does that ring a bell?
[08:47] <seb128> oSoMoN, hum, I saw something like that yesterday...bug #1832124
[08:48] <oSoMoN> seb128, ah, thanks, I'll attach my crash file to the report
[08:48] <seb128> thx!
[08:48] <seb128> journal log gnome-shell extracts would be useful as well
[08:48] <oSoMoN> sure
[08:49] <seb128> also send it using ubuntu-bug, easier to review things from the error tracker than from a dump attached to a comment
[08:50] <Fudge> is there anyone running accessibility team currently?
[08:50] <seb128> I don't think so
[08:54] <Fudge> seb128:  I'm using Version: 3.0~a57-1ubuntu38
[08:54] <Fudge> but don't see the code for LB_SYSLINUX_THEME in the function/defaults.she file
[08:56] <seb128> Fudge, live-build-3.0~a57/functions/defaults.sh:1220:			LB_SYSLINUX_THEME="${LB_SYSLINUX_THEME:-ubuntu-oneiric}"
[08:56] <seb128> grepping on that same version here
[09:23] <Fudge> seb128:  sorry but I can't find it with grep or search
[09:25] <seb128> Fudge, can you pastebin the log from those commands
[09:25] <seb128> $  dget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcefiles/live-build/3.0~a57-1ubuntu38/live-build_3.0~a57-1ubuntu38.dsc
[09:25] <Fudge> root@rob:/usr/share/live/build/functions# cat defaults.sh  |grep -i theme
[09:25] <seb128> $ dpkg-source -x live-build_3.0~a57-1ubuntu38.dsc
[09:25] <Fudge> root@rob:/usr/share/live/build/functions#
[09:26] <seb128> $ grep -n oneiric live-build-3.0~a57/* -r
[09:26] <seb128> (or without the '/*' that's not needed)
[09:26] <seb128> ah, you are speaking installed system
[09:27] <Fudge> yes
[09:27] <seb128> $ grep oneiric * -r
[09:27] <seb128> usr/share/live/build/functions/defaults.sh:			LB_SYSLINUX_THEME="${LB_SYSLINUX_THEME:-ubuntu-oneiric}"
[09:28] <seb128> in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-build/3.0~a57-1ubuntu38/+build/16902755/+files/live-build_3.0~a57-1ubuntu38_all.deb
[09:29] <seb128> Fudge, md5sum /usr/share/live/build/functions/defaults.sh ?
[09:30] <Fudge> ok now i see it
[09:30] <Fudge> dpkg: warning: downgrading live-build from 1:20190315 to 3.0~a57-1ubuntu38
[09:30] <seb128> what did you change?
[09:30] <Fudge> i installed the package you linked me to
[09:30] <seb128> ah, unsure where you got the previous version you had?
[09:31] <Fudge> ive been looking for the git repo, but I thought live-build was in the armine archive
[09:32] <Fudge> ermine oops
[09:35] <Fudge> seb128:  running now, let you know how it goes. Thank you for the help
[09:36] <Fudge> hope you feel better soon and have a great trip, binge some Netflix
[09:36] <seb128> thanks! :)
[09:37] <seb128> let us know how the build goes
[09:41] <Fudge> do I just drop the -oneiric off the package name?
[09:43] <Fudge> this is the build if you scroll to the end https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6s9jVpmQqW/
[09:44] <Fudge> oh you said xenial on your post
[09:45] <Fudge> i didnt repalce oneiriric with xenial, just removed -oneiric
[09:45] <Fudge> will retry
[09:49] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: mh, no bell... Can you check journalctl /usr/bin/gnome-shell -b0 if there are reports related to js dumpstack?
[09:51] <Trevinho> it should mention the crash signal
[09:51] <seb128> Fudge, the non versioned should depends on -xenial so be equivalent
[09:52] <seb128> so I guess more fixes are needed :-/
[09:53] <Fudge> seb128:  takes me a while to pick things up, i'm not a devloper. But i've been cracking on with this when time has availed itself for a long time.
[09:54] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CktKzBvSR7/
[09:54] <oSoMoN> gotta go on a quick errand, bbiab
[09:56] <Fudge> seb128:  well I have an iso so i'd call that success 538M    binary.hybrid.iso
[09:57] <seb128> Fudge, there is one problem still with the theme though
[09:57] <Fudge> oh?
[10:00] <seb128> Fudge, ah, you need to use -xenial indeed
[10:00] <seb128> well your log has 'cp: cannot stat '/usr/share/syslinux/themes/ubuntu/isolinux-live': No such file or directory'
[10:00] <seb128> so the syslinux theme copy failed
[10:00] <seb128> which means your menu/theme might not look right
[10:00] <Fudge> this is for blind ppl ;)
[10:01] <seb128> but it should be only cosmectic
[10:01] <seb128> k
[10:01] <seb128> so you don't care much I guess :)
[10:01] <Fudge> this is the build I just finished though https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TPmhgH5ymF/
[10:02] <Fudge> this is the easy part sadly, I still have to learn how to incorporate our seeds and how to merge them with upstream ubuntu
[10:02] <Fudge> themuso gave me small tid bits here and there but managed it himself, so I hadn'nt really learned from him.
[10:03] <seb128> I don't know if commented things somewhere sorry
[10:03] <Fudge> all good
[10:04] <seb128> bah, where are the ppc64el builders?
[10:05] <Fudge> :D
[10:06] <seb128> changing location, brb
[10:28] <Fudge> seb128:  wb, so you're on a holiday soon?
[10:32] <seb128> Fudge, yes, tonight :)
[10:49] <Fudge> where from and to seb128
[10:51] <seb128> Europe to Europe, easy one :p
[10:51] <seb128> going to Spain for 2 weeks
[10:55] <Fudge> what attracts you there?
[11:01] <Fudge> seb128:  Tasmania is a great place to tour
[14:05] <oSoMoN> didrocks, seb128: no luck on this chromium snap CSD theming bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1800260/comments/7
[14:05] <seb128> oSoMoN, :-(
[14:10] <seb128> oSoMoN, I don't know what you tried yet but random $whatIwouldtry is to strace -e open | grep css it and start deleting files listed there to see what difference they make
[14:10] <oSoMoN> seb128, I listed everything I tried in comments on the bug report, for future reference
[14:11] <oSoMoN> I'll try that
[14:12] <seb128> oSoMoN,
[14:12] <seb128> > it locates and opens the expected css file (~/snap/chromium/current/.local/share/themes/Yaru/gtk-3.20/gtk.css)
[14:12] <seb128> would be interesting to replace that one by the one from another theme which is quite different
[14:12] <seb128> to see if that leads to a different result
[14:13] <oSoMoN> yes, and this CSS file is actually bind-mounted from gtk-common-themes, so can't easily delete it
[14:13] <seb128> ah
[14:13] <seb128> I guess you could cp -r that directory
[14:13] <seb128> disconnect the theme
[14:14] <seb128> and copy manually the content to ~/snap
[14:14] <oSoMoN> in comment #6 I modified the CSS to change the headerbar colors, and the unfocused one was picked up correctly, but not the focused one
[14:14] <seb128> that's really puzzling :/
[14:14] <oSoMoN> in other news, LP librarian being down is pretty annoying
[14:15] <seb128> indeed
[14:18] <seb128> oSoMoN, did you try under xfce just to see if the shell in use makes a difference?
[14:18] <oSoMoN> I didn't, let me do that now
[14:21] <didrocks> oSoMoN: argh :/ I'm quite out of idea with this now…
[14:22] <didrocks> oSoMoN: you didn't check the gtk3 vs gtk3.20 thingy, though, no?
[14:22] <didrocks> just to check if removing one doesn't kick some internal behavior for chromium
[14:23] <didrocks> ah, it yeah, basically what seb128 says was the last element we discussed about as a workaroud, to ensure the right files are really used
[14:24] <oSoMoN> didrocks, nope, but I double-checked the strace and only the gtk3.20 css is read
[14:24] <didrocks> (but indeed, not easily to do)
[14:24] <didrocks> weird weird weird…
[14:24] <seb128> disconnecting the theming and copying the content manually shouldn't be too difficult?
[14:24] <oSoMoN> yeah, I can do that
[14:24] <oSoMoN> testing a xubuntu session now
[14:29] <oSoMoN> oh, interesting, in an XFCE/Xubuntu session with Yaru, the chromium snap is correctly themed
[14:32] <didrocks> c r a z y
[14:32] <didrocks> wondering if they don't have a XDG_CURRENT_SESSION or whatsover hardcoded value…
[14:33] <seb128> oSoMoN, interesting...
[14:34] <oSoMoN> and librarian is back \o/
[14:34] <seb128> didrocks, but the deb is the same source code and doesn't have the same issue in the same session
[14:34] <seb128> crazyness
[14:34] <oSoMoN> seb128, not just the deb, also the snap unconfined
[14:35] <didrocks> seb128: right, the deb would be impacted… or it's the session + try to find some files at a particular place
[14:35] <seb128> Trevinho, do you know if there any magic in gnome-shell for decorations that could impact confined snaps?
[14:35] <oSoMoN> (presumably because it's using the system-wide theme, instead of the one from gtk-common-themes)
[14:35] <seb128> Trevinho, or more specifically the chromium one
[14:36] <didrocks> oSoMoN: have you tried locally the snap as a classic one? (with the rest of the libs local?)
[14:36] <didrocks> like, giving it access to system-wide theme
[14:37] <Trevinho> seb128: mhmh, don't think so... it's just server-side decorated when using native borders.
[14:37] <Trevinho> otherwise not sure if they check something outside X to do any magic...
[14:38] <oSoMoN> didrocks, I unpacked the snap in a folder and ran it from there, unconfined, and it got the right color
[14:38] <Trevinho> ah... mhmh so.. reading the gsettings maybe? but looks weird it can't
[14:38] <didrocks> oSoMoN: with all other libs referencing local snap version? (but the theme?)
[14:39] <seb128> Trevinho, what gsettings? it seems to parse the css
[14:39] <seb128> Trevinho, see comments on bug #1800260
[14:39] <oSoMoN> didrocks, no, it was fully unconfined, so using system-wide libs only
[14:40] <didrocks> seb128: hum, maybe a mix of the 2, with some LD_LIBRARY_PATH magic, would worth a try?
[14:40] <Trevinho> ooh OK, then out of context.
[14:46] <seb128> Trevinho, read the bug please in case you have an idea, Olivier is banging his head on that one for some weeks and could use help
[14:46] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: I remember that using GTK_DEBUG=interactive I was able to get some infos... but actually the best way to debug style issues three was to use a ld-preload that was debugging style calls...
[14:46] <seb128> didrocks, oSoMoN, well the snap works confined with yaru from gtk-common-theme on xubuntu if I understood correctly the comment a bit earlier?
[14:46] <Trevinho> let me see if I can find my snippet
[14:46] <seb128> that would rule out any confinement/gsettings issue
[14:46] <oSoMoN> seb128, yes, that's correct
[14:47] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, yeah I also tried GTK_DEBUG=interactive a while back
[14:47] <didrocks> seb128: the idea was: files confined with other env variables (like XDG_* differing), but that may be unlikely
[14:48] <seb128> yeah, I guess it's not impossible, still weird :/
[14:48] <didrocks> oSoMoN: maybe try overriding some env variable before launching the snap in the mate session to see if there is an imapct?
[14:48] <didrocks> impact*
[14:51] <Trevinho> Mhmh I can't find the specific. but something based on this acting on the style context printing the widget path maybe
[14:51] <Trevinho> https://cloud.trevi.me/index.php/s/7kb52AspQDcr4Hs
[14:57] <oSoMoN> interestingly, I'm observing that the headerbar color for other themes isn't always correct. I thought only yaru was affected, but it seems adwaita is, too. ambiance isn't
[15:03] <seb128> oSoMoN, it would make sense for it to not being theme specific...
[15:04] <oSoMoN> yeah, at least it opens up more doors, as I was kind of going in circles focusing on yaru only
[15:12] <oSoMoN> oh, and it's not just chromium, actually… the gnome-calculator snap with adwaita doesn't get the right background color for the headerbar when focused
[15:14] <Trevinho> mhmhmh... IIRC they check an atom set on the window to verify the focused state... but don't know if things changed now to use a mode for Wayland too; need to check gtk
[15:15] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: are the other widgets using the active / backdrop state too? or just the headerbar
[15:15] <seb128> oSoMoN, win, you are off the hook now! :)
[15:15] <oSoMoN> heh, just in time for beer o'clock :)
[15:16] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, there are other widgets using active/backdrop, but afaict only the headerbar is getting the wrong color, and only in the active state, backdrop is fine
[15:18] <oSoMoN> I'll take a couple of screenshots and stitch them together to demonstrate the issue with gnome-calculator
[15:24] <seb128> oSoMoN, but it's fine on xubuntu?
[15:24] <seb128> start looking like a gnome-shell bug...
[15:25] <oSoMoN> nope
[15:25] <oSoMoN> not fine on xubuntu, for adwaita
[15:26] <oSoMoN> I wonder if the version of adwaita that's shipped in gtk-common-themes changed significantly between bionic and disco (assuming we're shipping the bionic version, not a recent upstream one)
[15:27] <oSoMoN> hrm no, the version in gtk-common-themes is built from https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme.git
[15:28] <oSoMoN> ah no, that's only the icon theme
[15:28] <seb128> :-/
[15:28] <oSoMoN> I need a break, my brains are melting
[15:30] <oSoMoN> adwaita comes from https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-themes-extra, apparently
[15:30] <oSoMoN> so not the version in bionic
[15:30] <Laney> hi fron london
[15:30] <oSoMoN> hey Laney
[15:30] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: ah, I just read the paste you sent me this morning (it went to a dead tab :P), anyways it seems something that the incoming SRU/update should cover
[15:31] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, some good news at last :)
[15:31] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: adwaita is inside gtk itself
[15:31] <Trevinho> no=
[15:31] <Trevinho> ?
[15:31] <Trevinho> hi Londolaney
[15:32] <Laney> I should get a laptop with better battery
[15:32] <Laney> 1h47 train ride, it was dead by the end of it
[15:32] <Laney> ://////\\\\\\/////\\\\\
[15:32] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, but gtk-common-themes embeds a copy of adwaita
[15:32] <Trevinho> Laney: so it happens, I changed mine few weeks ago since from a day to another died, and now I can support 5-6hrs again :P
[15:33] <Laney> Trevinho: new laptop or new battery?
[15:36] <Trevinho> battery
[15:36] <Trevinho> don't tell my employer, but I can do more than three years with a recent laptop :P
[15:36] <Laney> nod
[15:36] <Laney> heh
[15:37] <Laney> tbh I knew it wasn't the best at the time, but the hidpi screen tempted me anyway ...
[15:39] <seb128> sucks that battery go down like that over the years
[15:39] <seb128> can you find some shop that would get the xps appart and replace the battery?
[15:41] <jibel> there are usually good videos that explain how to disassemble most laptops
[15:41] <Laney> I could probably do it
[15:42] <Laney> where it says "Capacity: 48.2%" in g-p-m, ...
[15:42] <jibel> and it's yours do you'll take care unlike random shops or support services
[15:42] <Laney> is that the one to be looking at?
[15:42] <jibel> s/do/so
[15:43] <didrocks> anyway, time for week-end, good holidays seb128, have a nice trip Laney!
[15:43] <Laney> bye didrocks!
[15:46] <seb128> Laney, I think so
[15:46] <Laney> that sounds quite bad then /o\
[15:46] <Laney> I could be having a whole 3 hours!!!!!
[15:56] <seb128> that doesn't sound great either :-/ That quite convince me to not go for a hidpi screen, I've enough to chase power plugs in train or to have to go back from $place because I didn't take the charger and the laptop gets flat in a few hours
[15:57] <Laney> yeah, not such how much better current models are
[15:57] <Laney> you pay a penalty for it
[16:07]  * Laney is relocating, biab
[16:26] <oSoMoN> I'm calling it a day, have a great week-end everyone, bonnes vacances seb128
[16:35] <seb128> going to do the same here, need to start packing
[16:35] <seb128> have a nice w.e desktopers, good luck for next week, I'm probably going to be around at time but not on a regular basis/schedule
[16:36] <willcooke> see you seb128
[16:36] <willcooke> have a good holiday
[16:36] <seb128> thanks!
[16:38] <marcustomlinson> yeah have a good holiday seb128
[17:17] <willcooke> night all, happy weekend