[16:26] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: re: installer, using add-apt-repository after add-apt-repository -r adds more than one source (disabled) copy.
[16:27] <OvenWerks> I am thinking that on enabling the ppa I should first remove the file(s) in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:32] <OvenWerks> I am wondering if it makes sense to remove the files for PPA with the disable button.
[16:33] <OvenWerks> rather than using the -r
[18:00] <OvenWerks> Hmm, forget that, I must have a new version of add-apt-repository since then. That problem has gone away
[18:02] <OvenWerks> uploaded... and it started building before I could ask it to.
[18:05] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I guess to test this, I need to (after installing the kubuntu iso) install lowlat kernel, -lowlatency-settings, -controls, -installer from auto builds
[18:05] <OvenWerks> in that order.
[18:08] <OvenWerks> Maybe not, I can probably use the kubuntu I installed yesterday as is though...
[18:09] <OvenWerks> I actually meant to do that in two commits, the second for disabling enable PPA if the ppa is already enabled and vis versa
[18:55] <OvenWerks> It doesn't work.
[19:08] <OvenWerks> fixed... but see another problem, ppa disable is not disabled while installing.
[19:28] <OvenWerks> that should also be fixed, will check on next install test
[19:33] <OvenWerks> ubuntustudio-controls does not show up in the stock KDE menu. Search does find it, so I guess KDE comes with no "Other" folder
[19:34] <OvenWerks> hydrogen drumkits takes a long time to DL
[19:36] <OvenWerks> Ah, controls is in settings
[21:04] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Sorry, been out most of the day (still out, at my parents' house).
[21:05] <Eickmeyer> As for -controls showing up somewhere, I'm not 100% sure where to put it if not settings.
[21:12] <OvenWerks> Its fine. installer is still giving me trouble... but it is almost there
[21:12] <Eickmeyer> coo coo
[21:12] <OvenWerks> mostly I am rambling because it was taking so long to install packages with installer.
[21:13] <Eickmeyer> hahaha
[21:13] <Eickmeyer> Probably launchpad being slow. It does that a lot.
[21:14] <Eickmeyer> Esp since PPAs are hosted directly by launchpad, whereas the main repos get mirrors.
[21:16] <OvenWerks> got it. Now to remove the debugging code
[21:20] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: using -installer does not seem to install ubuntustudio's icins themes
[21:20] <OvenWerks> *icon
[21:21] <Eickmeyer> Do we want that as a dependency? It should get installed with -branding-common.
[21:21] <Eickmeyer> Meaning, it should be optional at best.
[21:22] <OvenWerks> I think I installed branding
[21:22] <Eickmeyer> Hmmm....
[21:22] <OvenWerks> Aside from that kde's menu's (both old style and whisker style) don't show many icons at all
[21:23] <OvenWerks> either there is a bug or I need to logout/in
[21:23] <Eickmeyer> Might need a log-out/in, unless you check the Plasma System Settings.
[21:24]  * Eickmeyer is cloning ubuntustudio-look to double-check some deps
[21:26] <OvenWerks> I have the Studio backdrops.
[21:27] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Just discovered that branding-common indeed does not pull in -icon-theme.
[21:27]  * Eickmeyer big derp
[21:32] <OvenWerks> Anyway, reboot time so I can push installer fixes
[21:33] <Eickmeyer> Ok, I'm working on this -branding-common not depending on -icon-theme issue. Can't believe I missed that.
[21:34] <OvenWerks> KDE needs a relogin just to find newly installed icons :P
[21:35] <OvenWerks> maybe their gui installer runs some kind of reload for that and apt doesn't
[21:41] <Eickmeyer> Most likely, though, I do know that if you're browsing the menu while something is installing, it'll let you know that it's updating.
[21:44] <OvenWerks> Ok, installer has a new commit and is building too
[21:46] <Eickmeyer> ok
[21:47] <OvenWerks> It would like testing I guess. I have tested it here by installing Studio on top of kde
[21:47] <OvenWerks> check for things like buttons being disabled when they should.
[21:48] <OvenWerks> Just had a thought: the PPA en/disable could be one button seeing as only one of the two is ever enabled :)
[21:49] <Eickmeyer> Oh! Nice thought!
[21:49] <Eickmeyer> Definitely would cut-down on clutter.
[21:50] <OvenWerks> I was goin to say it would leave room for the PPA purge button.
[21:50] <OvenWerks> However,
[21:51] <OvenWerks> From what you have said, that would remove any software added from the PPA which may take some time and should have feedback so it doesn't appear hung
[21:52] <OvenWerks> basically, it would need prgress as much as the install did
[21:54] <Eickmeyer> Considering it uses apt for its backend, that shouldn't be an issue as it should be able to use the same subroutine as the installer does when installing.
[21:56] <OvenWerks> more like a sort of copy of it, but ya, the cod layout has been done, the same widgets can be used.
[21:56]  * OvenWerks wonders if thge installer should be a tab in -controls ;)
[21:59] <OvenWerks> BTW, installing installer in kde (and probably other flavours) sure pulls in a lot of packages.
[21:59] <Eickmeyer> I'd say no to installer being a tab in -controls. For some reason, the word "ew" came to mind.
[21:59] <Eickmeyer> Considering installer pulls-in -controls which pulls-in jackd2 ,that's expected.
[22:00] <OvenWerks> ya, also tcl/tk.
[22:00] <Eickmeyer> Yep.
[22:00] <OvenWerks> Studio already has that for other applications
[22:05] <Eickmeyer> Yep. Also, it's such a lightweight toolkit that if anybody objects to having extra toolkits like that I'll just say "E:Wontfix"
[22:07] <OvenWerks> I actually like it better than python with gtk
[22:07] <Eickmeyer> It's easier for sure. Not exactly uniform, though.
[22:08] <OvenWerks> tell that to the gnome community...
[22:08] <OvenWerks> who override the desktop theme cause they like it
[22:09] <Eickmeyer> "Don't theme my apps!!!111!1!!1!!" -GNOME community
[22:09] <OvenWerks> That is actually one of the things I like about kde
[22:10] <Eickmeyer> Okay, bbl
[22:10] <OvenWerks> o/
[22:10] <OvenWerks> I think I am done with installer.
[23:57] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Ok, got the changes. Ready for release? (we can always release another version later if necessary, I'm ok with that)