 created a new topic in discourse for UbuConLa, please a moderator could look at it and approve it or give me his comments?
 Does anyone have the link for the iso download page?
 I got it from the front page
 Nevermind
 Sunny Singh: … Help me … Removed qtermwidget5-data … Now WiFi not working … The system boots directly into lubuntu … Shows 3dots in bottom … On boot shows … Loading 5.0.0.20 generic … Initialising ramdisk … And boots directly … Can't use WiFi tried or ethernet … Tried everything can't use live USB too … Since I can't open grub m
[15:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T90: Bionic locker should be light-locker] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90#1457
[16:55] <wxl> @tsimonq2: confused by this whole change you made to CI wiki. are you saying that if the repos are on version 1 of some package, but upstream releases version 2, that the stable ci will have version 2 in despite the fact that phabricator is still on 1 (and the archive on 1 or less)?
 No stable CI is a separate branch in phab
 It will have whatever you package
 In the stable CI branch
 Independent of upstream or the archive
[16:58] <wxl> so stable CI *is* latest upstream release?
 If that is what we merge/push then yes
[16:59] <wxl> but he edited out the part where i said stable is related to the phab repos so i'm confused
 I haven't read his edits. Hang on.
[17:00]  * wxl cries
[17:02] <kc2bez> Looking at the diff and the way I understand it you are both right.
[17:03] <kc2bez> Stable gets what is defined in the packaging on the stable branch in phabricator.
[17:03] <wxl[m]> Confusing change then
[17:04] <wxl[m]> Seems like a wordy way of describing things
[17:08] <kc2bez> Admittedly I have been trying to wrap my head around it all too. I am glad you started the conversation and documentation.
 is usb creator kde tested in Eoan?
 @RikMills [is usb creator kde tested in Eoan?], Yes.
 @kc2bez [Yes.], https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51
[18:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix usb-creator-kde: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51
 wxl: About your answer here: … https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/19-04-megathread/24/74 … When you take the issue of small screensize to upstream, do point me to the bug you file or the thread you create. Window resizing is a big issue for small screens.
[19:29] <lynorian> is the usb-creator sru no where near done
[20:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd4f7ade6b24e: Add keyobard shortcut to quit] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd4f7ade6b24e
[20:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd240ceaf3abc: Add undocking docks] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd240ceaf3abc
[20:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL896cec1147cb: Add redock a dock in qpdfview] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL896cec1147cb
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[22:24] <wxl> @tsimonq2: create a task
[22:24] <wxl> @tsimonq2: also see above. @kc2bez and i are still confused about your edits on the CI
[22:25] <wxl> @tsimonq2: and nevermind. don't create a task. it's already fixed https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS25c5f3c7e4795ba15fff89a9168cd78ace810b48
[22:30] <wxl> @lynorian_: (and perhaps RikMills since he brought the subject up) the usb-creator(-kde) SRU has been sponsored for xenial, bionic and disco. at least that's what the bug comment says. it doesn't seem to follow the normal procedure, though. it hasn't been uploaded from what i can tell and the usual verification-needed tag isn't there
[22:37] <wxl> it seems we're stuck in unapproved still
[22:37] <wxl> a motu/sponsor reviewed it but they're not a member of ubuntu-sru so that's kind of a problem
[22:46] <wxl> @HMollerCl i remember you struggled long and hard about the SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN thing in LibreOffice. upstream's making some changes to it, so if you could provide any recommendations on how we might work with those changes, that would be appreciated. https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-session/pull/278#issuecomment-513455231
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl i remember you struggled long and hard about the SAL_USE_VCLPLU …], will look at it. Last time I used it lo upstream said it was not ready, had lots of bugs
[22:49] <wxl> @HMollerCl that seems to be what agaida is suggesting there, but i'm no expert
[22:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T22: Bring those swaps back] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T22#1458
[22:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T90: Bionic locker should be light-locker] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90#1459
[23:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2a0ba0ac7e16: Add keybaord shortcut for next previous shortcut results] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2a0ba0ac7e16
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: and nevermind. don't create a task. it's already fixed https:// …], Seriously, what version were they running to get that error?
[23:29] <wxl> @kc2bez: probably cosmic. remember, it just died.
[23:30] <wxl> speaking of support, who wants to fix our release cycle chart? https://lubuntu.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/18.10.png
[23:32] <wxl> @kc2bez: let me clarify. it just died on cdimage. 
 I get it. Why are people still trying to install it?
[23:33] <wxl> cuz they can find it
[23:33] <wxl> also lubuntu.net
 Gahh!
[23:34] <wxl> omg the (insert expletive here) has an 32-bit link for 18.10 and a 64-bit link for 19.04
[23:34] <wxl> this is the sort of stuff we dealt with far too often that ultimately led us to make lubuntu.me
[23:36] <wxl> the downloads page only lists 19.04 and 16.04 https://lubuntu.net/downloads/
 Ugh.
[23:37] <wxl> if you click the link to become a developer for lubuntu you're led instead to mellix https://github.com/fossasia/meilix
[23:39] <wxl> cute but it's not lubuntu https://meilix-generator.herokuapp.com/
 ack, .
 (CI)
[23:43] <wxl> well that clarifies everything
 @wxl [<wxl> @lynorian_: (and perhaps RikMills since he brought the subject up) the usb …], https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates?action=show&redirect=StableReleaseUpdate#Publishing
 @wxl [<wxl> well that clarifies everything], I hope you're serious.
[23:44] <wxl> @tsimonq2: no, "ack" as a response to "we're confused" doesn't clarify anything.
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: no, "ack" as a response to "we're confused" doesn't clarify any …], See the wiki
[23:45] <wxl> @tsimonq2: also that's not relevant because the verification-needed hasn't been added yet. that said, vorlon told me it's normal and they'll get to it i guess.
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/ci/
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: also that's not relevant because the verification-needed hasn't …], It's absolutely relevant, verification-needed is added when the upload is accepted and processed to go into -proposed.
[23:46] <wxl> @tsimonq2: the specific section you linked to is related to those SRUs which have verification-done. we're not even there yet.
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: the specific section you linked to is related to those SRUs whi …], They're the SRU people those days anyway
 Monday it should be processed
[23:48] <wxl> @tsimonq2: well you're providing information that's not in that document. what i said still holds: this situation is not documented.
[23:50] <wxl> @tsimonq2: CI: totally clarified, though i'd modify the example with a real package example. include direct links to the repo and the various branches. then it will make total sense. that's probably the biggest part i didn't get.
[23:51] <wxl> @tsimonq2: why remove the times? and the idea of running a vm with git master on it?
[23:52] <wxl> i guess you have the times.. they're just a little less directly stated
[23:52] <wxl> and they're hidden away
 wxl: As long as you get the concept now, you're more than welcome to add documentation. That's all I can do right now given my limited time; I'll be back soon but I wanted to get something started.
[23:52] <wxl> you've been reading ubuntu wiki pages too much X'D
[23:53] <wxl> ppas are missing too
[23:53] <wxl> thanks for the start
 My pleasure. Good to unwind for 30 minutes before going back into $work
 Like I said before though, when I come back I'll totally be able to do CI ISOs like the back of my hand
 Because that's what this is
[23:55] <wxl> and yikes that example phew
 It's a mouthful
 Does it make sense though?
[23:56] <wxl> the first part yes
[23:56] <wxl> the last part is a mind bender
[23:56] <wxl> it probably needs to be reworded heavily until it's clear
[23:57] <wxl> writing for beginners would help, i think
 Imagine the first three paragraphs is one thing, you upload that, and paragraph four is a subsequent upload.
 This is basically KCI with some tweaks, so @RikMills could help clarify this.
 It works the exact same way in terms of merger jobs and stable vs unstable
 @kc2bez ^ are you on the same page as wxl in terms of understanding the new documentation?