[00:00] gotcha, coming right up [00:00] grub-efi-amd64-signed/bionic-updates,now 1.93.14+2.02-2ubuntu8.13 amd64 [installed] [00:00] shim-signed/bionic-updates,now 1.37~18.04.3+15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed] [00:00] although.....this was from ubuntu [00:00] i'll need to boot into backbox and check there [00:01] deker: or you can chroot into it :) [00:01] but chances are, it probably is exactly it [00:01] TJ-: sure, guide me on that one please: [00:01] ? [00:01] deker: if Backbox has those same packages then the problem is the hardcoded paths [00:02] sudo chroot /dev/sdaX which is backbox's root? [00:02] deker: which partition is backbox installed in? [00:02] dev/sda10 as /boot and /dev/sda11 as root [00:03] deker: "sudo mkdir /backbox; sudo mount /dev/sda11 /backbox; sudo chroot /backbox apt list --installed 'grub*signed' 'shim*signed' " [00:03] grub-efi-amd64-signed/bionic-updates,now 1.93.14+2.02-2ubuntu8.13 amd64 [installed] [00:03] shim-signed/bionic-updates,now 1.37~18.04.3+15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed] [00:04] looks like that confirms it =/ [00:04] so, can i uninstall these signed versions? [00:04] deker: yes [00:05] deker: if you add the kernel file-systems to the backbox mount you work from within it and even run grub-install inside the chroot [00:05] sudo apt-get remove 'grub*signed' 'shim*signed' ? [00:06] deker: "for n in proc sys dev etc/resolve.conf; do sudo mount --rbind /$n /backbox/$n; done " [00:06] deker: then "sudo chroot /backbox" ... at this point you're fully inside Backbox and can run commands as normal [00:06] deker: to return to Ubuntu "exit" [00:06] deker: hang on, I typoeda gain" [00:06] ok [00:07] deker: "for n in proc sys dev etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --rbind /$n /backbox/$n; done " [00:07] (removed 'e' from resolv.conf ! [00:07] ok done [00:08] so now this is in backbox [00:08] after running those last two commands [00:08] and now just run my apt-get remove ? [00:08] deker: so you can uninstall those signed packages, and then "apt install grub-efi-amd64" [00:08] deker: make sure you're inside the backbox chroot else you'll remove them from Ubuntu :) [00:09] yup, i chrooted into /backbox :) [00:09] Removing shim-signed (1.37~18.04.3+15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1) ... [00:09] Removing grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.93.14+2.02-2ubuntu8.13) ... [00:09] :D [00:09] Preconfiguring packages ... [00:09] (Reading database ... 260246 files and directories currently installed.) [00:09] Removing grub-gfxpayload-lists (0.7) ... [00:09] Removing grub-pc (2.02-2ubuntu8.13) ... [00:09] Selecting previously unselected package grub-efi-amd64. [00:09] (Reading database ... 260227 files and directories currently installed.) [00:09] when you install grub-efi-amd64 that should re-run grub-install which'll use /EFI/backbox/grubx64.efi" not "shimx64.efi" [00:10] deker: weird; grub-pc was installed? that's for BIOS mode boots [00:10] ok [00:10] there [00:10] too much text [00:11] backbox may be a bit too aggressive when installing stuff [00:12] TJ- : brb, rebooting to test [00:18] got it, thanks [00:18] np [00:18] nickserv that is [00:18] ok, now i'm in backbox [00:19] fwupdate-amd64-signed/bionic-updates 1.19bionic2+12-3bionic2 amd64 [00:19] fwupdate-i386-signed/bionic-updates 1.19bionic2+12-3bionic2 i386 [00:19] fwupdate-signed/bionic-updates,now 1.19bionic2+12-3bionic2 amd64 [installed] [00:19] grub-efi-amd64-signed/bionic-updates 1.93.14+2.02-2ubuntu8.13 amd64 [00:19] shim-signed/bionic-updates,now 1.37~18.04.3+15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1 amd64 [residual-config] [00:21] hmm.....what else could it be? [00:22] very odd [00:22] deker: what's the problem? [00:22] still going to ubuntu [00:23] deker: check "efibootmgr -v" again [00:23] deker: the backbox entry should be pointing to /EFI/backbox/grubx64.efi now [00:23] it isn't sadly [00:23] still stuck on /File(\EFI\BACKBOX\SHIMX64.EFI) [00:24] so is ubuntu apparently /File(\EFI\UBUNTU\SHIMX64.EFI) [00:24] deker: ok, try to force it, within the backbox chroot (I assume you rebuilt that) with "grub-install /dev/sda" [00:24] so this time around, i actually booted into backbox [00:25] just so i can natively run commands in case it makes a difference [00:25] deker: ok :) [00:25] ok running that now [00:25] Installing for x86_64-efi platform. [00:25] Installation finished. No error reported. [00:25] -rwx------ 1 root root 120K Jul 20 20:25 grubx64.efi [00:26] what does "efibootmgr -v" report now? [00:26] looking better /File(\EFI\backbox\grubx64.efi) [00:26] deker: that's what we want to see :) [00:26] excellent, let me reboot now and see what happens :) [00:28] brb [00:33] i'm back [00:33] works like a charm! [00:33] you are truly a genius TJ_ [00:33] TJ- [00:33] thank you so much for sticking through with me and helping sort it out [00:33] i really appreciate it [00:34] !cookie | TJ- [00:34] TJ-: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [00:35] !trout | Sigyn [00:36] that didn't work, awww, wanted to smack that guy around a bit for threatening "automated actions" [00:36] !cookie | TJ- [00:36] TJ-: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [00:42] does the ubuntu installer let me install everything from the dvd? [00:42] the deb one doesn't and my internet may be down for awhile [00:46] johnjay, limited to the standard selection software, yes [00:50] exit [01:26] Hi I've got a Dell Venue Pro 11 running xubuntu and it has suddenly come up with the error "Invalid Partition Table" whenever I turn it on. I've gone into the bios and everything seems fine there. How do I make the laptop boot normally again? The partition has been encrypted and I'm able to successfully decrypt and mount it but I couldn't get the s [01:26] yntax for fsck correct to run that on it === zbenjamin is now known as Guest42913 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:44] Sorry for the disconnect [01:45] invalidpartition: Not missed a reply :) Wait some more. [01:45] Bashing-om: no, you fool! you gave us away. [01:45] * ryuo hides. [01:45] <.< [01:46] Cheers Bashing-om, saves me checking the logs [01:46] ryuo: Sometimes I peek out from under my rock :P [02:21] Hey guys. When I use Xorg graphics, all my monitors work. But when I switch to Nvidia from software & updates only one monitor works. Any help? [02:26] is it possible to cast to chromecast from firefox? === [b0b] is now known as b0b [02:40] kinghat: If there is, you could find it searching on Mozilla's add-ons site. https://addons.mozilla.org [02:50] ya I saw something with a locally installed bridge. just wondered if native. [03:07] Is there anything special about ubuntu server? [03:07] I mean, isn't it just a linux server, so skills from managing playn ol linux servers applicable? [03:15] djapo: Ubuntu server doesn't install a GUI by default. Both Ubuntu Desktop and Server have the same core, the difference is how a user/admin interacts with the system. [03:27] i saw an ncurses interface for installing bundled packages [03:42] is it possible to make a USB drive to boot into ubuntu OS and store all files and settings there? [03:43] so the entire OS+files+settings are self-contained on that USB? [03:47] saphireos not sure what your asking. I use a boot partition on a usb and this is used to start my computer. Once the computer is started and the boot sector runs my main HDD will get decrypted by a key stored on the same USB. once im at the log in screen the usb can be removed [03:48] sappheiros: yes you can even use the normal installer to install to another USB disk. The disk might die quickly if you use SWAP, but the PC might crash if you don't [03:48] i mean: i want to use a windows laptop, not partition its hard drive, but instead use a USB drive to both boot into ubuntu and contain all the files and settings [03:48] theoretically if your bios is configured correctly and your fstab table is accurate you can use a combination of usb sticks to run linux. Each USB being a separate partition like tmp home usr etc [03:49] sappheiros, that is a persistant usb live stick [03:49] peq: so it's really wear-and-tear on a USB drive to use it as a 'hard drive' (storing files, etc)? [03:49] how ever your usb sticks if rubbish can burn out [03:49] do people generally not do it because it generally destroys USB drives? [03:49] once they are gone its very difficult if not imposibble to retreive any data [03:49] its more performance issues [03:50] usb sticks now are cheap as anything [03:50] it's just better to partition the hard drive? [03:50] yes faster more stable [03:50] but if you are just using it for a few hours nothing to computationally heavy or disk resource heavy you can use for a while [03:50] is ubuntu working now with touchscreens? [03:51] A raspberry pi runs off a micro usb [03:51] You could in theory use MD to raid-1 between two sticks, and that would even get you double the read speeds [03:51] and mine has been going for years [03:51] ^^ [03:51] you use raspberry pi MrCrackPotBuilde ? [03:51] yes [03:51] and beagle boards [03:51] and a few others [03:53] i have a raspberry pi with LFS as a media server this runs on a micro usb and has been going for a year but will probaably die within the next year. then i have a beagle board with uses 5 usb sticks [03:53] you can configure ubuntu to do a lot but the question should be why [03:53] for myself it was more is it possible could i use it to enhance my security and i learnt more about Linux [03:54] other than that its pointless [03:54] just partition and dual boot. if you really dont want to VM [03:56] peq do you know of a package manager or similar that just allows you to search for and download source code ?? [04:13] hey, so I can't figure out how to hibernate [04:14] I'm running ubuntu 18.04 [04:14] I've confirmed my swap is bigger than my RAM and I've tried adding a resume= parameter to my GRUB configuration [04:14] any ideas? [04:14] i have a 2017 thinkpad if that helps [04:15] when I run systemctl hibernate, the screen goes black and the computer takes a couple of seconds to shut off. but when I boot back up there's no indication that I hibernated [04:16] zdorovo, sudo systemctl hibernate [04:16] ah you did that [04:16] leave a few programs open and try again [04:17] how bigger does swap have to be than ram to hibernate? [04:18] it needs to be at least 100mb more [04:18] ok [04:18] if you have 8gb ram then 8.1gb [04:18] i'm going to install ubuntu onto an SSD [04:19] swap space typically is double that of your ram [04:19] but i'm going to have lots of partitions for other OS as well [04:19] ah [04:19] can I share the same /home partition with ubuntu and other linuxen you think? [04:19] yes [04:19] or is that a bad idea [04:20] but as long as no programs are installed there [04:20] the thign is there's so many things in /home. like it makes folders and temp files and stuff [04:20] so you could have a partition that contains only your documents [04:22] you would normally have a partition to hold your personal files this partition could then be mounted by all/most os's [04:22] like i said make sure no programs are installed in this directory it should just be data storage [04:23] you could just install Qubes [04:23] run ubuntu debian fedora arch windows meh all in one [04:30] MrCrackPotBuilde: The only thing I know to do is apt-get source or searching github. [04:36] MrCrackPotBuilde: omg i didn't see this 100mg requirement anywhere [04:36] mine's only 85mb larger [04:38] i'll try resizing my swap in the morning and see how it goes. Thanks for your help!! [04:52] I'm experiencing screen tearing on ubuntu 19.04 [04:53] nvidia prop. drivers on [04:53] gnome interface [05:26] zdorovo for things to work well id use double your ram just to be on the safe side. testing just now confirms you can get it working with 100+ [05:48] Hi, I've got a Dell Venue Pro 11 running xubuntu and it has suddenly come up with the error "Invalid Partition Table" whenever I turn it on. I've gone into the bios and everything seems fine there. How do I make the laptop boot normally again? The partition has been encrypted and I'm able to successfully decrypt and mount it but I couldn't get the [05:48] syntax for fsck correct to run that on it [05:52] is your fstab uptodate ?? [05:53] the problem with fsck and repairing drives is the drive shouldnt be mounted [05:54] invalidpartition, are you able to boot a live usb?? can you then mount decrypt and then unmount [05:54] if you can then run fsck /dev/XXXX [05:54] Sorry I should have mentioned, I'm already on a live usb! [05:54] i kinda figured that after i typed it hahaha i was being a bit blur sorry [05:57] Ok I've currently decrypted the partition and then unmounted it (since it mounts automatically after decrypting) [05:57] But if I do fsck /dev/sda5 it tells me I must have r/w access [05:57] you could also use parted or fdisk to check the partition tables [05:58] you might need to give your live stick user r/w access to the file system [05:58] chmod [06:01] Will I try creating a new partition table via gparted then? And for giving r/w access would it be "chmod 777 /dev/sda5"? [06:16] invalidpartition: no, can you pastebin "sudo parted -ls" ? [06:16] invalidpartition, nice name lol [06:18] EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/xiZU2Rq1 [06:18] (currently dismounted and decrypted) [06:21] *encrypted sorry not decrypted [06:21] invalidpartition: where does it say "invalid partition" ? [06:22] When I boot [06:23] invalidpartition: hmm, so it's a bios message? and ubuntu doesnt actually boot, no grub i mean ? [06:23] invalidpartition: just to be clear, invalid partition table has nothing to do with filesystems [06:24] (or fsck) [06:24] Yeah it seems to be a bios message, and you're right, it just gets to the Dell bios screen then the error pops up [06:24] Ah ok, someone recommended trying fsck which is why I was trying it [06:24] yeah i know [06:25] invalidpartition: i wonder what it doesnt like about the partition table, it seems fine and parted doesnt whine about anything either [06:25] Yeah it's very strange, it was booting fine before and nothing was changed before this error started coming up [06:25] invalidpartition: let's maybe take a closer look, try "sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print" [06:25] It happened before and I just did a fresh install of ubuntu [06:26] invalidpartition: ah i see the problem [06:26] (i think) [06:26] https://pastebin.com/1DjgffbT [06:26] invalidpartition: the /boot partition (/dev/sda1) doesn't have a boot flag [06:26] apt installed firefox does not load pages, but all other browsers do, I had to install firefox with snap and snap loads slower. I tried everything from https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-cant-load-websites-other-browsers-can but no results. Any advice? [06:26] some bios require that [06:27] Ah, and it can somehow lose its boot flag? [06:27] invalidpartition: it shouldn't [06:28] unless something modified the partition table [06:28] invalidpartition: anyhow, type "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" [06:29] Cool I'm into fdisk [06:29] press "m" for help [06:29] is there a "toggle boot flag" option at the top? [06:29] Yup! [06:30] cool, press the letter before it (i think it should be "a") [06:30] And partition number 1? [06:30] yes [06:30] Ok it's enabled now [06:30] finally press "w" to write the new table [06:31] Then shall I reboot and retry? [06:31] yeah give it a shot [06:31] Cool, brb! [06:46] something is wrong with the ro repos 0% [Connecting to ro.archive.ubuntu.com (78.96.7.8)] [06:47] EriC^^: I no longer get the error message, instead now I just get a white ticking underscore [06:52] invalidpartition: aha, that's a good thing, i think [06:52] Definitely an improvement! [06:53] It doesn't actually boot after the white ticking underscore though [06:53] invalidpartition: are you able to get grub if you hold shift right after you turn the pc on?? [06:54] Brb while I try! [06:56] Nope! Holding shift doesn't do anything [06:56] Seems you might need to reinstall grub ?? [06:56] Invalidpartition: yup [06:56] that should find the yes ?? [06:56] i mean MrCrackPotBuilde [06:57] it should find the os itself. [06:57] How do I reinstall grub? [06:57] Invalidpartition: ok, decrypt the os partition [06:57] use live usb to grab grub sudo grub-install /dev/XXX [07:00] Invalidpartition: actually nevermind, type 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt' [07:00] i forgot you have a separate /boot [07:01] Grand, I'll try that [07:01] Booting into the live usb now [07:03] OK I've done the mount sda1 /mnt [07:04] MrCrackPotBuilde do I do that with sda or sda5? [07:05] Invalidpartition: type 'sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda' [07:06] Done, it says installation finished [07:06] And it also says no errors reported! [07:06] Looking good [07:06] alright, try booting again' [07:09] It worked! [07:09] Thank you so much [07:11] Invalidpartition: great! no problem === Xard_ is now known as Xard [07:17] you could create a back up image of your partition now and if the error happens again just push the image then alter the flags [07:18] Yeah I'll definitely do that! [07:18] Thanks again [07:22] sudo find /opt/tomcat/logs/ -mtime +7 -print0 | xargs -r -0 rm -rf (permission denied) [07:22] rm: cannot remove '/opt/tomcat/logs/localhost_access_log.2018-08-17.txt': Permission denied [07:22] ... [07:23] drwxr-x--- 2 tomcat tomcat 90112 Jul 21 07:20 logs [07:46] anyone? [07:48] put sudo again befire xargs [07:56] Hi, after i install budgie-desktop to test and then uninstall i'm getting errors on my default gnome when trying to use nvidia-settings. [07:56] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/G5Xs2rY6KP/ [07:57] i can't save any config file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it tell me i don't have permissions. But i'm root [07:59] wayland ? [08:00] Mathisen, xorg [08:01] now my audio doesn't work on google chrome [08:01] Mathisen, what can i do to like, remove purge gnome and reinstall it can work? [08:02] i really don't want to format my current system because i have a lot of job making it ok [08:02] setting everything up [08:02] i cant say, i dont use ubuntu myself as desktop. im just wondering why does it say " No package 'xorg-server' found " i mean how can X be running at all with that [08:02] how can i see if it's xorg? [08:02] something get massed up with gdm and i reinstall it [08:03] after uninstalling budgie [08:03] because i couldn't dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 to make it default again instead of lightdm [08:03] then i tried systemctl enable gdm.service but it didn't work (idk why) [08:03] then i reinstall it with apt and it worked. [08:04] Mathisen, denis@Linux:~$ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE [08:04] x11 [08:05] ... confusing. im sure someone in here can help. i dont want to be guessing atleast [08:06] know, people say about windows and that it has to be formated twice a year but... [08:06] linux enter to some real troubles out of nowhere [08:06] and you have to format it even more [08:06] that very annoying [08:07] both can suck i gess [08:07] depends on what you do. also a rolling relase distro has fewer issues with upgrades.. ofc sometimes things breaks but it is better for a desktop disto for me atleast... [08:07] i used to like arch [08:08] it's a good distro [08:08] also rolling release, maybe what you are using right now? [08:08] arch [08:09] i like to install a lot of new DE's to test it out [08:09] you can do exactly same thing on ubuntu [08:09] but i gess i can only do it in Debian [08:09] without broking everything [08:10] only "real" diffrence would be package versions [08:10] ubuntu rolling release? [08:10] just dont put 3.rd party repos in and you should not break things [08:10] nope it is not [08:10] yeah i miss understand you [08:11] you said i can do exactly same thing on ubuntu? what are you reffering to [08:11] i like to install a lot of new DE's to test it out [08:11] oh yeah [08:11] look what happend [08:11] everything is massed up because i apt install budgie-desktop [08:12] ...i don't know what went wrong [08:12] budgie is in ubuntu repos [08:12] not 3rd [08:12] ok so now when you boot does gdm or lightdm start for you ? [08:12] none, then i tried systemctl enable gdm (because lightdm is gone after apt remove budgie) [08:13] systemctl give an sort of error message so i apt install --reinstall gdm [08:13] maxcell_, can you pastebin output from this please >> systemctl list-unit-files | grep enabled [08:13] and ok, gdm became the default again and it is starting with init 5 [08:14] Mathisen, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Grp3bzgDyV/ [08:16] maxcell_, i dont see lightdm or gdm there [08:16] you have them both now installed or none ? [08:17] only gdm [08:17] and " sudo systemctl start gdm " does what ? [08:17] when i systemctl enable gdm(tab) it doesn't complete to anything [08:17] as it doesn't exist [08:17] if it* [08:18] strange [08:18] maybe that is what's wrong [08:18] and giving those xorg-server errors [08:18] ? [08:19] those you saw on nvidia-settings [08:19] idk [08:19] can you just say error you get " sudo systemctl start gdm " [08:19] but i'm on gnome [08:19] does not mather [08:19] ok.. [08:20] nothing happend [08:20] i type enter and it jumps to the other line [08:20] without any errors or messages [08:20] denis@Linux:~$ sudo systemctl start gdm [08:20] denis@Linux:~$ [08:20] sudo purge gdm && sudo apt install lightdm && sudo systemctl enable lightdm [08:20] that then [08:20] im off for 10 min.. brb [08:21] try replacing start with status, to see how it's operating or not. "sudo systemctl status gdm" [08:22] SysGhost, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5gMnWQ4s79/ [08:22] 4th line tells it's up and running. [08:22] those errors are normal? [08:22] gdm-password [08:23] child process -841 was already dead [08:23] gkr-pam unable to locate [08:23] those things [08:23] yours is like that? [08:23] some messages are cut off. your terminal app seems to be too small. [08:23] yeah [08:24] wait [08:24] SysGhost, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dzqM9zcFj2/ [08:26] Could be your user config files are corrupt, thus unable to log in. Try creating a new user, or reset your configuration. (take backup on what you need to save before resetting your user profile) [08:27] i realize that budgie changes .bashrc file (it adds something on the end of the file that was giving erros when i open i new bash) [08:27] maybe it screwed up other things [08:28] seems like it [08:28] how do i reset my user profile? and what it will do to my current user, what i need to save exactly? [08:28] See if this helps: mv ~/.config/dconf/user ~/.config/dconf/user.bak [08:29] now i relog? [08:29] personally when I have troubles with my user profiles, I delete the whole .config and starts all user configuration over again. Keep in mind that many application store their settings and data in there, so think twice before removing it. you could just rename the .config folder and relog. [08:30] indeed.. [08:30] hmm [08:30] cool [08:32] SysGhost, i think i need to reinstall budgie [08:32] and then remove it with purge [08:32] so all config files will go away [08:32] ? [08:33] shit i did it the first time [08:33] gonna relog.. [08:37] SysGhost, the errors were drastically decreased, the only error still going is on the line 20: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/r5jNkrwYgh/ [08:38] hi ! I have transfer my ubuntu18.04 to new hard disk,the drive car looks differ form what is does [08:39] How else is the system working, or not working? [08:39] before transfer,it look like this: [08:39] https://upload.cc/i1/2019/07/18/aK4TLt.jpeg [08:39] SysGhost, i erase .config folder, gonna restart now [08:40] after transfer, it became this: [08:40] https://upload.cc/i1/2019/07/18/8gKB1I.jpeg [08:42] It seems that the graphics driver has changed. [08:43] And I found out somthing error message in /var/log/Xorg.0.log [08:43] [ 25.168] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory [08:43] [ 25.169] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section. [08:44] [ 25.201] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering [08:44] jacklisp: whit what method did you clone/transfer to the new drive? [08:45] I use tar method copy /boot / and /home to my new hard disk === luna_ is now known as luna [08:46] And changed the UUID in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg [08:48] tried the update-initramfs command (as root) ? [08:49] (I suspect some kernel modules went missing in the process, thus "changing" your graphical experience) [08:51] what's the command update-initramfs do ? [08:52] prepares kernel modules so they load properly upon boot, among other boot related stuff. [08:52]