| didrocks | good morning | 05:26 |
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| duflu | Hi didrocks | 05:44 |
| ricotz | good morning | 05:45 |
| duflu | Morning ricotz | 05:47 |
| duflu | Morning for some | 05:47 |
| didrocks | hey duflu, ricotz | 05:49 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:35 |
| Wimpress | o/ | 06:35 |
| oSoMoN | hey Wimpress | 06:37 |
| duflu | Morning Wimpress and oSoMoN | 06:38 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:38 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN, Wimpress | 06:41 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:41 |
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| marcustomlinson | good morning duflu ricotz didrocks oSoMoN and Wimpress | 07:49 |
| duflu | Hi marcustomlinson | 07:49 |
| Fudge | do any of you guys know much about AWS, looking to put up a wokuwiki which does not use sql, so veyr simple install with ssh preferably | 07:57 |
| marcustomlinson | Fudge: does it have to be AWS? Why not just a cheap VPS? | 08:07 |
| willcooke | morning | 08:11 |
| willcooke | hot one today | 08:11 |
| Fudge | it doesnt have to be, work wants the cheapest option possible I think, singey. I could just host it at home but not sure if they will allow | 08:12 |
| duflu | Morning willcooke | 08:13 |
| willcooke | afternoon duflu | 08:14 |
| oSoMoN | good morning marcustomlinson, willcooke | 08:15 |
| Fudge | VPS would be fine but some of the prices i looked at were rediculous | 08:16 |
| marcustomlinson | Fudge: There are many VPS options out there of course, but I've been using hostwinds.com lately and have been happy | 08:16 |
| Fudge | ill look them up, thanks for the tip | 08:16 |
| marcustomlinson | https://www.hostwinds.com/vps/unmanaged-linux - starts at $4.50 a month | 08:17 |
| marcustomlinson | morning willcooke | 08:17 |
| Fudge | nothing wrong with that price | 08:17 |
| Fudge | marcustomlinson: thanks very much mate | 08:24 |
| marcustomlinson | 👍🏻 | 08:24 |
| Fudge | oh, Speakup didn't read that at all, is it an emogey | 08:26 |
| Fudge | emoji | 08:27 |
| marcustomlinson | ha, yeah a thumbs up | 08:28 |
| oSoMoN | mpt, I'm studying fwupd to get up to speed on the APIs and what user tasks they allow, would you mind postponing that meeting to give me some more time? | 08:41 |
| mpt | oSoMoN, yep, that would be fine, let’s talk on Thursday | 08:42 |
| oSoMoN | mpt, perfect, thanks | 08:43 |
| Trevinho | morning... my IRC wasn't starting as I had to update my https key on the server... -_- | 09:28 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: mhmh... as per cursor and scaling, not sure, as the apps should monitor X server resources to check it, although IIRC I did something on that, but can't remember details right now. I need to look at my coding archives :P | 09:29 |
| Trevinho | iirc was related to the theming someway though too | 09:29 |
| willcooke | hi Trevinho | 09:32 |
| Trevinho | hi willcooke | 09:32 |
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| duflu | Morning Trevinho | 09:57 |
| kenvandine | Trevinho: yeah, willcooke had said he thought you had some fix for that | 13:01 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: mh... IIRC the XCURSOR_PATH was fixing the theme, but for the size I'm not sure | 13:02 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: is it for any app? | 13:02 |
| kenvandine | yeah, from what i hear | 13:02 |
| kenvandine | i don't have a HiDPi display to test | 13:02 |
| kenvandine | but Wimpress does | 13:02 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: mh, well I expect you can simulate it by just passing GDK_SCALE=2 anyways | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | Trevinho: cool, so yeah i can do that with gnome-calculator and see the cursor doesn't scale | 13:28 |
| kenvandine | Trevinho: any tips on what i can do there? | 13:28 |
| Trevinho | kenvandine: mhmh, soo... Better way would be to inject some code in libgtk to see what's trying to load | 13:28 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2019-07-23 🌻🌻🌻 | 13:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jul 23 13:30:40 2019 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 13:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 13:30 |
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| Trevinho | hi | 13:31 |
| marcustomlinson | helloo | 13:31 |
| willcooke | Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 13:31 |
| oSoMoN | o/ | 13:31 |
| willcooke | My thermometer says it's 40 outside in the sun | 13:31 |
| oSoMoN | ouch | 13:32 |
| willcooke | Thats 104 in old money | 13:32 |
| willcooke | Ok, let's get started with bug reviews | 13:32 |
| marcustomlinson | ':( | 13:32 |
| ogra | sun ? you mean oracle ... | 13:32 |
| willcooke | #topic BB Incoming | 13:32 |
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| willcooke | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:32 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1741027 | 13:33 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1741027 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Screen sharing panels abort using an non-existent vino gsettings key" [High,In progress] | 13:33 |
| willcooke | Not one of ours strictly speaking | 13:33 |
| willcooke | There is discussion going on, so I think will leave it alone | 13:34 |
| willcooke | #topic DD incoming | 13:34 |
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| willcooke | yay no more C | 13:34 |
| willcooke | :) | 13:34 |
| marcustomlinson | Is that "will leave it alone" or "Will, leave it alone" | 13:34 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 13:34 |
| willcooke | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:34 |
| willcooke | marcustomlinson, either, both :) | 13:34 |
| willcooke | Ok, so for D we have: | 13:35 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libblockdev/+bug/1837437 | 13:35 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1837437 in libblockdev (Ubuntu) "disk content permanently lost when changing LUKS password" [Undecided,New] | 13:35 |
| willcooke | Laney raised this on IRC last night so I opened a bug for it | 13:35 |
| willcooke | I think we should accept it, it's pretty dangerous. | 13:35 |
| willcooke | We need someone to do some testing and decide if it is needed in B as well | 13:35 |
| willcooke | Who would like to take a look in to it? | 13:35 |
| oSoMoN | if it can be reproduced in a VM, I can do | 13:36 |
| willcooke | oSoMoN, if you would at least have a go that would be appreciated. If you can't get it to work, let us know and we can ask someone else | 13:37 |
| oSoMoN | ack | 13:37 |
| oSoMoN | I'll test this this afternoon | 13:37 |
| willcooke | thanks | 13:37 |
| willcooke | #topic rls-ee-incoming | 13:38 |
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| willcooke | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:38 |
| willcooke | Sounds like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bug/1551623 might go away | 13:39 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1551623 in gconf (Ubuntu) "[SRU] package gconf2 3.2.6-3ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed" [Critical,Triaged] | 13:39 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/valgrind/+bug/1837068 | 13:40 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1837068 in valgrind (Ubuntu) "libssh armhf autopkgtest failure on valgrind unhandled instruction: 0xEBAD 0x1CCA" [High,New] | 13:40 |
| willcooke | Seb has asked Foundations to take look | 13:40 |
| willcooke | So I think that's it | 13:40 |
| willcooke | I will look at the unassigned release bugs offline | 13:40 |
| willcooke | So I propose we move to AOB | 13:40 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 13:41 |
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| * willcooke looks at this notes | 13:41 | |
| willcooke | *his | 13:41 |
| willcooke | Hiring.... | 13:41 |
| willcooke | We have a backlog of people to interview. In order to get through the list as quickly as we can I would like to spread the load and have people do some first round interview | 13:42 |
| willcooke | *interviews each | 13:42 |
| willcooke | or perhaps as a small group of 1 to 3 people | 13:42 |
| willcooke | I'll follow up on email on that this week | 13:42 |
| didrocks | (small group sounds fine) | 13:42 |
| didrocks | (1 isn't a group ;)) | 13:42 |
| willcooke | If you talk to yourself it is | 13:42 |
| didrocks | haha | 13:42 |
| willcooke | I agree with willcooke | 13:42 |
| marcustomlinson | XD | 13:43 |
| oSoMoN | :) | 13:43 |
| willcooke | That's the end of my notes | 13:43 |
| willcooke | Anyone got anything? | 13:43 |
| willcooke | going once | 13:43 |
| willcooke | twice | 13:44 |
| Trevinho | rnot from me | 13:44 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 13:44 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jul 23 13:44:49 2019 UTC. | 13:44 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-07-23-13.30.moin.txt | 13:44 |
| willcooke | 🌞 🔥 | 13:44 |
| willcooke | thanks all | 13:44 |
| marcustomlinson | thanks | 13:45 |
| didrocks | thanks (but please, no sun, no fire) | 13:45 |
| oSoMoN | thanks | 13:45 |
| willcooke | TFW you're waiting for your script to run and it takes you 10 mins to realise that you opened the script in gedit, didn't actually run it | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | willcooke: that's awesome! | 14:37 |
| oSoMoN | willcooke, that's a security feature, you're required to audit the code of that script before being allowed to run it | 14:43 |
| oSoMoN | willcooke, Laney: bug #1837437 happens on disco, not on bionic | 14:49 |
| ubot5 | bug 1837437 in libblockdev (Ubuntu Disco) "disk content permanently lost when changing LUKS password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1837437 | 14:49 |
| willcooke | night all, going to find somewhere cool... | 17:03 |
| kenvandine | tjaalton: bug 1817225 is breaking the 18.04 hyperv desktop images | 19:15 |
| ubot5 | bug 1817225 in xrdp (Ubuntu) "18.04.2 breaks xrdp" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1817225 | 19:15 |
| kenvandine | it needs xorgxrdp, which fails to install during image build | 19:16 |
| tjaalton | kenvandine: so, does a rebuild work with stock xserver? | 19:20 |
| tjaalton | the non-hwe version | 19:20 |
| kenvandine | tjaalton: i'm not sure how to build a non-hwe version | 19:20 |
| tjaalton | kenvandine: rebuild xrdb, test with xserver-xorg-core, not -hwe-18.04 | 19:20 |
| tjaalton | *xrdp | 19:21 |
| kenvandine | the image build is pulling in hwe | 19:21 |
| kenvandine | not sure how to disable that | 19:21 |
| kenvandine | these are livecd-rootfs image builds | 19:21 |
| tjaalton | anyway, I'd like to avoid having another copy of xrdp | 19:22 |
| tjaalton | that's why I'm asking | 19:22 |
| kenvandine | tjaalton: agreed | 19:22 |
| kenvandine | i'd happily switch to non-hwe | 19:22 |
| kenvandine | i don't think a xrdp based desktop VM would really benefit from the hwe versions | 19:24 |
| tjaalton | true, but it does get a newer xserver | 19:24 |
| tjaalton | and kernel | 19:25 |
| kenvandine | oh right, so no new kernel without it | 19:25 |
| tjaalton | which is probably why you build point-release images :) | 19:25 |
| kenvandine | it's mostly just to get the latest set of updates | 19:25 |
| kenvandine | what would rebuilding xrdp do for me? | 19:26 |
| tjaalton | so it needs stock bionic tested with a rebuilt xrdp, surely the stock image is still available? | 19:26 |
| kenvandine | the current xrdp depends on xorgxrdp which depends on the non-hwe xserver | 19:27 |
| kenvandine | if i rebuilt it against the hwe version that would probably work | 19:28 |
| tjaalton | hmm maybe can't be avoided to have xrdp-hwe-18.04 | 19:28 |
| kenvandine | but i need the packages to pull from bionic-updates | 19:28 |
| kenvandine | that's what i'm thinking | 19:28 |
| kenvandine | we need this for the 18.04.3 release | 19:29 |
| tjaalton | because it needs to build-depends against the hwe packages, and then the binary would depend on the hwe xserver | 19:29 |
| kenvandine | right | 19:30 |
| kenvandine | would that then build a xorgxrdp-hwe-18.04 binary too? | 19:30 |
| tjaalton | and I'm basically off this week.. but maybe could push this stil | 19:30 |
| tjaalton | l | 19:30 |
| tjaalton | yes | 19:30 |
| kenvandine | i'd really appreciate it :) | 19:30 |
| kenvandine | i'm at the sprint next week | 19:31 |
| kenvandine | and i think release day is next thursday :) | 19:31 |
| tjaalton | indeed.. | 19:32 |
| kenvandine | thanks! | 19:32 |
| tjaalton | kenvandine: uh, so it's xorgxrdp which needs a new source to build against hwe, but xrdp recommends 'xorgxrdp' and I'm not sure if there's a 'soft' way to fix that without having a separate source of xrdp as well | 20:00 |
| kenvandine | tjaalton: not in bionic | 20:10 |
| kenvandine | xorgxrdp is built from the xrdp source | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | cosmic and later had a separate source | 20:11 |
| tjaalton | kenvandine: ah, true | 20:20 |
| tjaalton | kenvandine: pushed to ppa:canonical-x/x-staging, renamed all binaries built by src:xrdp | 21:16 |
| tjaalton | now someone still needs to test it | 21:17 |
| kenvandine | tjaalton: thanks | 21:34 |
| kenvandine | We'll build images with that ppa | 21:34 |
| kenvandine | tjaalton: I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow | 21:46 |
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