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ubptgbot<mateosalta> @Te-F [<reply to media>], https://github.com/ubports/wiki.ubports.com/blob/master/How-to-flash-existing-ubuntu-touch-devices-with-Ubports-images.md01:34
ubptgbot<mateosalta> basically just use the same command as before but use the recovery image from there adding --recovery-image=recovery-turbo.img01:36
ubptgbot<mateosalta> [Edit] basically just use the same command as before but download the recovery image from there and add --recovery-image=recovery-turbo.img01:37
ubptgbot<A C> The Morph browser has search engine alternatives other than duckduckgo, such as Google or Bing02:26
ubptgbot<RedBlade4555> Hello people. I'm using Xiomi Redmi 3s prime. … I unlocked the bootloader and installed a custom recovery. … From the little I read I understand that installing Ubuntu Touch is a little different then just flashing a rar or img  file like other ROMs. … So please give me a headstart on how to start and from where to start porting my p02:46
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ubptgbot<RedBlade4555> @RedBlade4555 [Hello people. I'm using Xiomi Redmi 3s prime. … I unlocked the bootloader and ins …], Twrp recovery02:49
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @nocomp [if there are non , there is a reason i guess], there are discord webapps btw03:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @nocomp [got it working, used discordapp.com/login instad of .com url], cool03:15
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @nocomp [how can i fix that ? :/], user script like whatsapp xD03:16
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @nocomp [how can i fix that ? :/], [Edit] user script like whatsweb xD03:21
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @RedBlade4555 [Hello people. I'm using Xiomi Redmi 3s prime. … I unlocked the bootloader and ins …], i suggest starting at halium.org03:21
ubptgbot<RedBlade4555> Thanks a lot03:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes, that device is not yet supported by UT03:23
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> they did ask about porting tho :p03:23
ubptgbot<RedBlade4555> @Fuseteam [i suggest starting at halium.org], A little bit more info wud help.  … Could u tell me in short what the whole process is. … N is there an rar file I can directly flash. I couldnt find any03:27
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> there is no rar file no03:28
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> you would need to port by following the steps from halium.org03:29
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> it included debugging and configuring iiuc03:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> you can also ask other porters in @halium03:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] you can also ask other porters for help when you are stuck in @halium03:31
ubptgbot<RedBlade4555> OK then let me give it a read n will ask as and when I get stuck03:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> good luck o703:34
ubptgbot<iamjackscompletelackofsurprise> I assume updates are still on hold because of the critical bug being outstanding?10:37
ubptgbot<iamjackscompletelackofsurprise> Not complaining by the way, I appreciate all of the projects time.10:38
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i assume so10:47
ubptgbot<hadrianweb> Anybody tries to compile ofono 1.29 (now ubuntu touch are using 2 years old version) and tested with that phones thats can't have voicecalls11:02
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ubptgbotДанила Наумов was added by: Данила Наумов13:41
ubptgbot<nocomp> hi folks13:48
ubptgbot<nocomp> i try to use libertine on my 1+113:48
ubptgbot<nocomp> i access to it via parameter menu13:48
ubptgbot<nocomp> and it ask me a package name to search13:48
ubptgbot<nocomp> what ever i type13:49
ubptgbot<nocomp> spining circle13:49
ubptgbot<nocomp> never find anything13:49
ubptgbot<nocomp> did i missed something?13:49
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> what are you looking for example?13:53
ubptgbot<nocomp> i ve heard it that i can use libertine in order to replace apt-get install13:55
ubptgbot<nocomp> do i try to install nmap13:55
ubptgbot<nocomp> so when it ask for deb pkg name i type nmap13:55
ubptgbot<nocomp> then it search for ages and never find anything13:55
ubptgbot<nocomp> surely doing soemthing wrong13:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> libertine is still very experimental, and the graphical config/setup in system settings is still not great13:56
ubptgbot<nocomp> ok13:56
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @GrooveZilla [Shout out to Wayne and Joseph for a brilliant 2 hour intro of UBPORTS in downtow …], Thanks for setting that up, sir, and thanks for joining Le Group Super UBports au Telegram etc!13:57
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @nocomp [do i try to install nmap], there is nmap, what you should do is to type "nmap" then hit enter13:59
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> in your keyboard13:59
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> try and let me know13:59
ubptgbot<alan_griffiths> Here's my blogpost (stealing images from UBports) I mentioned yesterday: https://ubuntu.com/blog/mir-support-for-wayland14:15
ubptgbot<advocatux> 👆👌👏14:20
ubptgbot<YougoChats> nice clear article 👍 even I understood what it's about (and chuckle at the memory of the Mir/Wayland wars of old)  … Also very nice Ubports plug 😁14:24
ubptgbot<alan_griffiths> Thanks. The "Mir/Wayland wars" were rather unfortunate.14:50
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> yeah.......hmmm looks like tiling windows is also supported14:52
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> openstore on my M10 is just missing all of a sudden. Anyone ever heard of an issue like that?16:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> did you uninstall it?16:28
ubptgbot<iamjackscompletelackofsurprise> If you download the click you can install it via the command line or use UT Tweak Tool16:29
ubptgbot<iamjackscompletelackofsurprise> https://open-store.io/app/openstore.openstore-team16:30
ubptgbot<iamjackscompletelackofsurprise> https://open-store.io/app/ut-tweak-tool.sverzegnassi16:30
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> It does not show in the ut tweak tool either. … I did not uninstall it, but I guess it wouldn't have uninstalled itself. I will try reinstalling it now.16:33
ubptgbot<MotoFufu9k> It worked.16:35
ubptgbot<iamjackscompletelackofsurprise> Cool16:35
ubptgbot<nocomp> @malditobastardo [there is nmap, what you should do is to type "nmap" then hit enter], Doesnt work, so ning circle for ages never succeed gettin the package. Why cant we simply do apt install?17:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> @nocomp [Doesnt work, so ning circle for ages never succeed gettin the package. Why cant …], you can inside the container. `libertine-container-manager -c bash` will give you a  "root" shell inside the default container. you can then just run `apt install nmap` for example17:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> you could also report issues in github against libertine, debug them, and submit pull requests to fix them, and make the GUI route better17:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> there's only a handful of people maintaining hundreds of projects to keep UT working, and libertine is still very experimental17:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> and UT is not a traditional PC linux distro. it is a phone/tablet OS17:33
ubptgbot<nocomp> Ok understood17:34
ubptgbot<nocomp> Thxx for your help17:34
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @nocomp [Doesnt work, so ning circle for ages never succeed gettin the package. Why cant …], I installed it in less than a minute17:41
ubptgbot<nocomp> I do a vidéo maybe i am doing something wrong17:42
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> You just go to "enter package name" put "nmap" and hit enter17:46
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> that's it17:47
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> wait for a minute or two. (check the status) and you should see how it progress17:47
ubptgbot<nocomp> (Video, 75s) https://irc.ubports.com/pNUvHrw5.mp417:47
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Ok Now I see what's going on17:48
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> You first need to create the container (what you are doing when pressing "+"17:49
ubptgbot<nocomp> @malditobastardo [wait for a minute or two. (check the status) and you should see how it progress], After few hours no change17:49
ubptgbot<nocomp> Yes i ve did it17:49
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Yeah, what happened is that you need to keep the screen "on" to finish the installation17:49
ubptgbot<nocomp> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/qz3UhTJh.png17:49
ubptgbot<dohbee> right, i think it failed/got stuck; but that is not a search field for installing packages17:49
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> it could take around 20-25 minutes to finish17:49
ubptgbot<nocomp> 25 min for nmap????17:50
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @TotalSonic you are the master of libertine 🙂17:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> no, you are creating the container there, not installing nmap17:50
ubptgbot<nocomp> Yes in the container then i ve added nmap17:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> once the container is created then you can install nmap17:50
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> do this17:51
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Fwd from TotalSonic: gui is easier - first install "Active Screen"  app from the Open Store and open and enable it.  Next choose "Libertine" from the System Settings.  Click on the "+" icon in upper right hand corner, enter container ID name if you wish to have it different from the "xenial" default - then make sure you keep the S17:51
ubptgbotystems Setting app on top and allow it to install the container (should take around 10 minutes on a decently fast wifi connection)17:51
ubptgbot<nocomp> @malditobastardo [gui is easier - first install "Active Screen"  app from the Open Store and open …], Ok will try thxxxx17:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> you cannot install nmap until after the container is finished being created; it is not immediate17:51
ubptgbot<nocomp> How do you remove a container from gui?17:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> i guess the GUI is bugged17:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> it shouldn't let you install packages until creation is finished, but it looks like you can try to anyway17:52
ubptgbot<nocomp> Ok17:52
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @nocomp [Ok will try thxxxx], it should take around 20-25min, leave the screen on with active screen until it finishes17:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> hmm, maybe we should remove the system-settings bit for libertine from the image for now17:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> would certainly make things less confusing :P17:54
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @malditobastardo [it should take around 20-25min, leave the screen on with active screen until it …], In the Libertine gui - during the install - you can press the Libertine container name in the list - then press "settings" starry-circle icon on the upper right hand corner - then choose the "Container Information" button that pops up.17:56
ubptgbot  This will give you a list of the Terminal information as it installs the packages so you can monitor  the progress of the install.17:56
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @dohbee [hmm, maybe we should remove the system-settings bit for libertine from the image …], disagree - the Systems Settings Libertine gui is very useful for those of us that are aware of the bug.  I think a sticky forum post about this bug would help in ending some confusion until the bug can be fixed.17:57
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @nocomp [How do you remove a container from gui?], swipe on the Container name from left to right - this will bring up a trashcan icon to the left of it - and you can press that.17:58
ubptgbot<nocomp> Oki17:58
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> And when installing the package do not press the green button, press "enter" from the keyboard17:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> @malditobastardo [And when installing the package do not press the green button, press "enter" fro …], ?18:02
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> the button press doesnt work 🙁18:03
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> its buggy18:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> is there an open issue in github?18:03
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> I think so, this was from the beginning18:03
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> long time ago18:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> nothing in https://github.com/ubports/libertine/issues18:04
ubptgbot<binhead> (Video, 13s) https://irc.ubports.com/wTEM6Utp.mp418:09
ubptgbot<binhead> Star Trek voyager, Arch Linux and Ubuntu mobile, living the dream ☺️18:09
ubptgbot<binhead> ive got to say, first impressions after 2 years, what an improvement - the UI is very nice18:11
ubptgbot<Braillynn> @binhead [<reply to media>], Awesome!18:24
ubptgbot<Matthias Herrmann> How would one replace the Unity 8 launcher with their custom version?  … Could I modify and build the project on https://github.com/ubports/unity8 and then adb push the build?19:49
ubptgbot<binhead> Q: can you asimply apt-get install stuff?20:03
ubptgbot<binhead> i'm trying to install wget20:03
ubptgbotDalli Boy was added by: Dalli Boy20:08
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> Hi there guys what devices you recommend when I want try to virtualize an win 10 pro and use one program for mixing? Will be needed lot more resources as for the application itself? (VirtualDJ/Rekordbox)20:12
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Dalli Boy [Hi there guys what devices you recommend when I want try to virtualize an win 10 …], I think you might have posted this on the wrong forum - this is for the Ubuntu Touch mobile operating system.20:15
ubptgbot<binhead> if you do however find a way to virtualise windows 10 on ubuntu touch, please let us all know ;)20:15
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> It's not possible to do that?20:16
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @binhead [Q: can you asimply apt-get install stuff?], the answer is no.  If you wish to install desktop Linux apps via the Terminal you need to use the "libertine-container-manager" command - info here - http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html20:16
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> Sorry I should read more about it20:17
ubptgbot<binhead> AHA containerisation, should have known, thanks Steven (Y)20:17
ubptgbot<binhead> @TotalSonic [the answer is no.  If you wish to install desktop Linux apps via the Terminal yo …], fantastic documentation availability for everything here, i'm truly impressed20:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Matthias Herrmann [How would one replace the Unity 8 launcher with their custom version?  … Could I m …], not exactly. but what is your ultimate goal? it's not really a replaceable component20:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Dalli Boy [It's not possible to do that?], this isn't a support group for Ubuntu (or other forms of Linux) on PCs. it's for https://ubuntu-touch.io and the https://ubports.com community which maintains it20:20
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Dalli Boy [Hi there guys what devices you recommend when I want try to virtualize an win 10 …], IF you were asking regarding UT native music creation apps - currently there is Guitar Tools, DrumKit, DJ Turntable, Recorder and Sfxr Sound Generator - all available via the Open-Store https://open-store.io/?sort=relevance&search=drum20:21
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> @TotalSonic [IF you were asking regarding UT native music creation apps - currently there is …], I wanted to ask if it will be possible to emulate the Programms. Or find an device f.e.: M Surface or other more powerfull hybrid device to run virtual box or any kind of emulation to get work this two apps.20:25
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> Using your Ubuntu touch20:25
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Dalli Boy [Using your Ubuntu touch], the answer to that is currently "no".20:26
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> @TotalSonic [the answer to that is currently "no".], How can i help this happen?20:26
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Dalli Boy [How can i help this happen?], I think what you are wanting to do is using standard desktop Ubuntu on an x86 device - for which there are lots of options for music creation software.  So you really are not needing Ubuntu Touch it seems20:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> unity8 stack on x86 currently is quite unstable, unfortunately. and we haven't really had time to get it to a usable state20:28
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> @dohbee [unity8 stack on x86 currently is quite unstable, unfortunately. and we haven't r …], I I studying now informatics in germany and I know that OS 4 all devices is the future (Astralinux) is it a part or your Vision? I would like to help out in any way to improve your OS. Where should I write an email?20:33
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> 2nd I = am20:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> astralinux is a linux distro for russian military20:34
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/XMHhlj4M.webp20:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> AstraLinux I would guess is therefore not part of the vision of UBports/Ubuntu Touch20:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> UT vision is a converged platform for many devices, though20:35
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> @dohbee [astralinux is a linux distro for russian military], I know but it's for every device you get.20:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> it is not20:36
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> See your quicker as me.20:36
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> I virtualize that it's bad but it works20:36
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> @dohbee [UT vision is a converged platform for many devices, though], I like that idea I know I am total beginner but I like that idea an Ubuntu for every device possible20:40
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Dalli Boy [I I studying now informatics in germany and I know that OS 4 all devices is the …], here is how to contribute to the UT community - https://ubports.com/community/get-involved20:40
ubptgbot<Dalli Boy> @TotalSonic [here is how to contribute to the UT community - https://ubports.com/community/ge …], Thanks man!20:40
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Dalli Boy [I like that idea I know I am total beginner but I like that idea an Ubuntu for e …], that ideal is far from the current reality - the list of supported devices is at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ - but a few more are being developed now as well20:41
ubptgbot<benklaasen> @malditobastardo [Yeah, what happened is that you need to keep the screen "on" to finish the insta …], Oh, that's caught me out every time I've tried to create a Libertine container. Thanks for the tip.21:10
ubptgbot<SirBouncyDaRoo> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Zc0La6Fr.mp422:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> Uh22:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Matthias Herrmann [I wanted to play a little with the source code of the operating system and modif …], https://docs.ubports.com/en/lates23:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Matthias Herrmann [I wanted to play a little with the source code of the operating system and modif …], https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/systemdev/index.html23:11
ubptgbot<Matthias Herrmann> @dohbee [https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/systemdev/index.html], ty23:18
ubptgbot<deedend> @SirBouncyDaRoo [<reply to media>], Ahahaha that's awesome23:40

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