| lubot | ItzSwirlz was added by: ItzSwirlz | 01:02 |
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| lubot | <ItzSwirlz> Hello | 01:02 |
| lubot | <ItzSwirlz> I dont run Lubuntu but im internet friends and I work with Simon and I would like to see what pops here in the Lubuntu telegram | 01:02 |
| lubot | <ItzSwirlz> (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/au89RAY.jpg Night guys | 01:27 |
| MrCrackPot | i found this issue https://github.com/lxqt/qterminal/issues/103 but the fix isnt working for me has there been any updates ?? | 04:06 |
| MrCrackPot | its ok i removed it completely seems its not possible. | 04:16 |
| lubot | <ShiBonCip> ping | 09:50 |
| lubot | <ShiBonCip> is lubuntu supporting for wireless mouse indicator? | 09:51 |
| === lubuntu is now known as Guest35170 | ||
| _jagged | Hello, has anybody had trouble using Allegro5 audio with Lubuntu? | 11:57 |
| _jagged | I ask here because I'm thinking it's an lxqt thing | 11:57 |
| _jagged | Because, as seemingly always, it's only me who has this problem | 11:58 |
| guiverc | _jagged, fyi: i've never used allegro audio, but looking at what it is I'd suspect other places in the software stack more than de(lxqt) - but this is guess | 12:18 |
| apt-ghetto | And please don't forget to describe the problem | 12:19 |
| === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka | ||
| _jagged | Thanks for the reply guiverc2, to be honest I only asked here out of frustration from Googling/debugging and a few glasses of red. | 13:12 |
| _jagged | I'm thinking it's ALSA or something like that. | 13:12 |
| _jagged | Damn.. IRC huh | 13:12 |
| _jagged | Can't believe how many people still use this.. | 13:12 |
| _jagged | This shit used to be Facebook, twitter and tinder all in one | 13:13 |
| apt-ghetto | !language | _jagged | 13:14 |
| ubottu | _jagged: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 13:14 |
| _jagged | Now it's spitting language warnings at me | 13:14 |
| _jagged | I've been fined for violating the verbal morality statute | 13:15 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> !language | _jagged], I was about to do that. XD | 13:16 |
| apt-ghetto | Maybe it does not work from telegram | 13:16 |
| _jagged | Ok, so this is not mIRC circa '99 | 13:16 |
| _jagged | I'll be carefu... asl? | 13:17 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @_jagged [<_jagged> Now it's spitting language warnings at me], And it's not "it" It's @aptghetto: XD | 13:17 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @_jagged [<_jagged> Ok, so this is not mIRC circa '99], This IRC channel is bridged to the telegram channel and vice versa. | 13:18 |
| n-iCe | Hello | 16:36 |
| n-iCe | Is lubuntu actually lightweight than xubuntu? | 16:36 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @n-iCe [<n-iCe> Hello], Namaste! | 16:36 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @n-iCe [<n-iCe> Is lubuntu actually lightweight than xubuntu?], Yup! It is. | 16:36 |
| n-iCe | I'm tempted on try it | 16:37 |
| n-iCe | now lxde is gone | 16:37 |
| n-iCe | should I make the jump? of course clean install | 16:37 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> we have lxqt form 18.10 onwards. | 16:37 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @n-iCe [<n-iCe> should I make the jump? of course clean install], Yup! you should. | 16:37 |
| wxl | though 18.10 is dead, so get 19.04 | 16:38 |
| wxl | and yes, do it | 16:38 |
| n-iCe | hi wxl ! | 16:38 |
| wxl | o/ | 16:38 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> though 18.10 is dead, so get 19.04], RIP 18.10 | 16:38 |
| n-iCe | yeah, I'm in an old version | 16:38 |
| n-iCe | Let me download it | 16:38 |
| n-iCe | Lubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) Released! | 16:38 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: check dev channel plox!! | 16:39 |
| n-iCe | oh 32bits was removed | 16:40 |
| lubot | <teward001> wxl checks all his pings, no need to crossping ;) | 16:40 |
| lubot | <teward001> ... though I just annoy wxl until he does stuff lol @The_LoudSpeaker | 16:40 |
| lubot | <teward001> n-iCe yes, 19.04 32bit ISOs were removed | 16:40 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001 [... though I just annoy wxl until he does stuff lol @The_LoudSpeaker], XD | 16:40 |
| lubot | <teward001> you need to install 18.04 and do upgrades to newer releases in-place to still get 32bit Lubuntu installations | 16:40 |
| lubot | <teward001> though that will only work for a limited amount of time (and I think you can only get 19.04 with that?) | 16:41 |
| wxl | something like that | 16:41 |
| lubot | <The_LoudSpeaker> 32 bit support should have ended on an LTS release. 19.04 will aslo die soon. | 16:41 |
| n-iCe | but my old laptop has 32bits | 16:43 |
| n-iCe | :< | 16:43 |
| apt-ghetto | Then you can choose between Xubuntu or Lubuntu 18.04, which are both supported until april 2021 | 16:45 |
| apt-ghetto | And you can consider Xubuntu a bit better supported | 16:45 |
| wxl | just because XFCE isn't dead upstream like LXDE :/ | 16:46 |
| wxl | but in general in the Ubuntu world, 32 bit should not be considered well supported | 16:46 |
| n-iCe | what about Debian | 16:48 |
| wxl | i've heard there has been some rumbling about dropping it but nothing serious | 16:49 |
| wxl | they have pretty good support for old useless equipment XD | 16:50 |
| n-iCe | is debian that bad? | 16:50 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Actually in a sense, its good. For old systems. | 16:51 |
| wxl | debian isn't bad at all! | 16:51 |
| wxl | *at all* | 16:51 |
| wxl | it's very good | 16:51 |
| wxl | it's really what ubuntu is based on | 16:51 |
| wxl | we just put a much more friendly face on it | 16:51 |
| wxl | but they do a lot of support of old things that we don't | 16:52 |
| wxl | so just to clarify: Debian = good; old hardware = bad | 16:52 |
| n-iCe | I see | 16:55 |
| apt-ghetto | LXDE in Debian come from the same dead upstream, I suppose | 16:55 |
| wxl | yep | 16:56 |
| === lubuntu is now known as Guest75841 | ||
| Guest75841 | hi | 18:33 |
| dabblerdude | Hello, I have an issue on Lubuntu. I plugged in my phone to my laptop and was able to view images on there, but when I transferred some images to the desktop and tried to view them, they were unable to be viewed. | 20:49 |
| dabblerdude | Same with videos as well. | 20:50 |
| wxl | what happens? | 20:50 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: I don't know. I'll share a pastebin link with some pictures explaining the problem. | 20:52 |
| dabblerdude | Ok, here's the link. | 21:53 |
| dabblerdude | I decided to use an imgur link instead. | 21:53 |
| dabblerdude | https://imgur.com/a/7tUOI31 | 21:54 |
| wxl | interesting. you're on 18.04? | 21:54 |
| wxl | OH | 21:55 |
| wxl | look at the file size | 21:55 |
| wxl | it's much smaller | 21:55 |
| wxl | i bet you made a shortcut rather than actually copying/moving the file | 21:55 |
| wxl | if the shortcut pointed back to the phone but the phone was disconnected, then it would just consider it as a standard file and then it would complain | 21:56 |
| wxl | also: i really urge you to use 19.04 and not 18.04. | 21:56 |
| dabblerdude | I just dragged the file from the camera to the desktop; how would that reduce the file size? | 21:58 |
| wxl | it wouldn't | 21:58 |
| wxl | but it might make a shortcut | 21:58 |
| dabblerdude | I'm using 18.04 LTS because I'm gonna sell this laptop of mine, and I don't want whoever buys it to update the system every 6 months. | 21:59 |
| dabblerdude | It would be better if the customer updates it every 3 years, as that's how long a Ubuntu derivative LTS release lasts. | 21:59 |
| noizk | Hi | 22:00 |
| dabblerdude | noizk Hi. | 22:00 |
| noizk | Hi. Touchpad click is not working (I'm using Lubuntu 19.04) any idea how to fix it? | 22:01 |
| lubot | <ItzSwirlz> Try restarting | 22:01 |
| lubot | <ItzSwirlz> Always happens with school laptops | 22:01 |
| noizk | I already did | 22:02 |
| wxl | 18.04 will become basically obsolete in 2021 | 22:02 |
| lubot | <ItzSwirlz> uh | 22:02 |
| wxl | it uses LXDE which is essentially upstream | 22:02 |
| wxl | essentially dead i mean | 22:03 |
| lubot | <ItzSwirlz> Try installing applications that work with the computer brand like Dell or touchpad software | 22:03 |
| lubot | <ItzSwirlz> If not, you might have to reinstall | 22:03 |
| wxl | even Fedora's kind of dropping it | 22:03 |
| noizk | let me see something | 22:03 |
| wxl | the transition between LXDE and what we've used since 18.04 (LXQt) is not a simple one. you'd be way better off putting on 19.04 if you want less headaches | 22:03 |
| wxl | also: confirmed that by default pcman in 18.04 makes shortcuts when you DND | 22:04 |
| wxl | hold down control while DND to get a copy | 22:04 |
| wxl | also: LTS means old software and that's not always a plus for a customer | 22:04 |
| wxl | noizk: it's not work AT ALL? | 22:05 |
| noizk | Hey beautiful people, in gnome and mate there is some workarounds in the "Setting -> Touchpad" is there something like it in 19.04? | 22:05 |
| wxl | yep | 22:05 |
| dabblerdude | So in the long run, is it better to put non-LTS release on this PC if I'm selling it? | 22:06 |
| lynorian | https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.8/keyboard_and_mouse.html | 22:06 |
| dabblerdude | With LTS releases, they're more stable. | 22:06 |
| noizk | touchpad is working beautifully, amazingly, it's so much better than on Ubuntu or Xubuntu but no touchpad click | 22:06 |
| wxl | https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.8/keyboard_and_mouse.html?highlight=touchpad | 22:06 |
| wxl | GMTA | 22:06 |
| wxl | dabblerdude: LTS is not necessarily more stable. in our case, LXDE is dead upstream. LXQt is heavily developed. that said, LXQt (non-LTS currently) is way more stable | 22:07 |
| wxl | dabblerdude: also i find in general that having old software is NOT usually beneficial | 22:07 |
| wxl | noizk: what do you mean by touchpad click? you mean tap to click? | 22:07 |
| noizk | wxl yes sir | 22:08 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: So do you recommend, for selling PCs, non-LTS releases because they're more stable? | 22:08 |
| noizk | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it's working | 22:08 |
| wxl | dabblerdude: i don't recommend 18.04 to anyone unless they're on 32 bit. that's it. | 22:08 |
| noizk | I had to enable the first option | 22:08 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: I'm talking about for selling PCs with Ubuntu on them. | 22:09 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: LTS or non-LTS for the better choice? | 22:09 |
| noizk | Non-LTS | 22:09 |
| wxl | dabblerdude: for Ubuntu proper, it depends. still, though, it necessarily means old software. and that sucks. upgrading is easy. this isn't windows. | 22:09 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: Yeah, I was wondering why Microsoft's OS' go up to 10+ years of support compared to Ubuntu which is 5 years for an LTS release. | 22:10 |
| dabblerdude | Or 6 months for the non-LTS ones. | 22:11 |
| wxl | dabblerdude: because they have to figure out some way to justify charging you an arm and a leg. | 22:11 |
| noizk | There is something I don't understand: Every time I tried using IRC before I had to register my user name. Now here with Lubuntu bundled client it just works. What magic is this? | 22:12 |
| wxl | there are certain things that will require you to register | 22:12 |
| wxl | channels sometimes set modes that require it | 22:12 |
| wxl | ours doesn't | 22:12 |
| noizk | Nice | 22:12 |
| wxl | but it has in the past when spam has been craszy | 22:13 |
| noizk | when I was 13 and 14 I spent every day on IRC | 22:13 |
| noizk | I forgot about everything | 22:13 |
| noizk | "/away" I used to do this before I sleep | 22:14 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: It's easier to upgrade on Ubuntu? | 22:15 |
| dabblerdude | That's nice. | 22:15 |
| noizk | If I remember correctly there wille a new version of 19.10 this year | 22:16 |
| noizk | or january 2020. | 22:16 |
| noizk | Just type sudo apt-get upgrade I think | 22:16 |
| noizk | *Dist-upgrade | 22:17 |
| dabblerdude | I have been using Ubuntu for a while, and I have some residual parts of using Windows in my mind. | 22:19 |
| dabblerdude | So I got to remember the differences between the two. | 22:19 |
| noizk | I use Linux for 1.5 year and I'm still dumb, newbie and I forget things all the time | 22:20 |
| noizk | If I was introduced to Linux when I was 12 or 13 I would remember things better now. It's normal | 22:20 |
| noizk | I'm having aliasing issues and even though I fixed compton conf about 4 months ago I don't remember how to do it | 22:21 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: Btw, you make a good point about the old software. That is an issue that the customer could charge me for. | 22:22 |
| dabblerdude | I thought the non-LTS releases were less stable and more buggy. | 22:22 |
| noizk | wxl is there anything I can do in compton conf to improve tearing? | 22:22 |
| noizk | ? | 22:28 |
| dabblerdude | So I just copied and pasted some pictures from my phone onto the desktop, and they were able to be viewed. | 22:33 |
| dabblerdude | For some weird reason, if I drag them onto the desktop and view them from there, they can't be viewed. | 22:34 |
| noizk | https://github.com/yshui/compton is there any way I can copy this git and install using the terminal? | 22:37 |
| wxl | dabblerdude: LTS releases can be considered as more stable....... because they have old software. there's less of a chance of putting in cutting edge stuff. but we (Lubuntu) don't tend to do that anyways. Ubuntu often makes huge sweeping changes. | 22:40 |
| wxl | noizk: i'm not the graphics expert. i just live with the default, really. but i would expect that you'd have more luck with the graphics driver. | 22:41 |
| wxl | dabblerdude: if you ctrl-drag it will work | 22:41 |
| wxl | (i said this before) | 22:41 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: I looked through the chat and didn't see you mention using ctrl-drag. | 22:43 |
| wxl | noizk: i wouldn't recommend using that considering it's a development branch. instead, if you see something useful, i would suggest you urge the developers to send a pull request upstream. | 22:44 |
| wxl | 1504 < wxl:#lubuntu> also: confirmed that by default pcman in 18.04 makes shortcuts when you DND | 22:45 |
| wxl | 1504 < wxl:#lubuntu> hold down control while DND to get a copy | 22:45 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: So the PC that I'm trying to sell is a Dell Latitude D520, it currently has a Core Duo CPU in it, 2GB of RAM, and I can't get any version above 18.04 because the future versions are 64-bit only. | 22:45 |
| dabblerdude | It can run YouTube videos at decent quality and can navigate the web well. | 22:46 |
| noizk | wxl: I found a very interesting 6.2-0york0~18.04 build uploaded in launchpad.net | 22:46 |
| noizk | I'm going to restart. Let's see if ot works | 22:46 |
| wxl | dabblerdude: it's not a 32-bit only computer | 22:50 |
| dabblerdude | Yeah, I could upgrade the CPU in that to a Core 2 Duo. | 22:51 |
| noizk | Reboot complete | 22:51 |
| wxl | it had one by default | 22:51 |
| dabblerdude | Core Duos are 32-bit only whereas the Core 2s support 64 bit. | 22:51 |
| wxl | from what i can see, it was a core 2 by default | 22:52 |
| wxl | https://ark.intel.com/content/www/id/id/ark/products/27253/intel-core-2-duo-processor-t5500-2m-cache-1-66-ghz-667-mhz-fsb.html to be specific | 22:52 |
| noizk | No more tearing wxl | 22:52 |
| wxl | ij | 22:52 |
| wxl | uh | 22:52 |
| wxl | english https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/27253/intel-core-2-duo-processor-t5500-2m-cache-1-66-ghz-667-mhz-fsb.html | 22:52 |
| noizk | I need to tell devs the https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf/+archive/ubuntu/compton/+build/16640099 build is sexy | 22:52 |
| noizk | How do I tell them? | 22:52 |
| wxl | might want to `lscpu` that thing | 22:53 |
| wxl | if it's got the `lm` flag, it's 64 capable | 22:53 |
| wxl | noizk: https://launchpad.net/~jonathonf | 22:54 |
| wxl | I am not an Ubuntu or Debian developer or maintainer. I offer no warranty for any of these packages. These are created for my own systems | 22:54 |
| wxl | that's what he says | 22:55 |
| wxl | i would NOT be using that casually | 22:55 |
| noizk | I see | 22:55 |
| wxl | plus he only supports bionic, i.e. 18.04 | 22:55 |
| wxl | so not even sure how it worked on 19.04. it shouldn't have even installed. | 22:55 |
| dabblerdude | Wait, I'm running 18.04 right now. | 22:55 |
| noizk | It would be interesting if Lubuntu devs could compile that latest compton github I sent you earlier | 22:55 |
| dabblerdude | Oop, my mistake. | 22:56 |
| wxl | as a Lubuntu Developer, i can tell you: no way. | 22:56 |
| noizk | why not? | 22:56 |
| wxl | it's a development branch | 22:56 |
| noizk | I see | 22:56 |
| wxl | it would be like shipping a prototype car | 22:56 |
| wxl | i mean sure it comes with lots of neat features | 22:56 |
| wxl | but when it blows up in someone's face, you've got a problem | 22:56 |
| noizk | Well I should have done this because that build was made for 18.04 but it ws working | 22:56 |
| noizk | I meant I should have done | 22:57 |
| noizk | *Shouldn't | 22:57 |
| noizk | sorry | 22:57 |
| wxl | you should also know something else: no one except that guy will provide you support with those packages | 22:57 |
| noizk | Right. | 22:58 |
| noizk | I wish I could compile myself that development git but I would mess something up anyway | 22:59 |
| noizk | btw Lubuntu is fast now, tearing free | 23:00 |
| noizk | It's going to be my distro for the next 4 years | 23:00 |
| wxl | you could | 23:00 |
| wxl | but compilation is not necessarily a beginner sport | 23:00 |
| noizk | Yes. | 23:01 |
| noizk | one day I'll be good at it though | 23:01 |
| wxl | try doing linux from scratch | 23:01 |
| wxl | seriously, you'll learn so much | 23:02 |
| noizk | I tried last year | 23:02 |
| noizk | I almost cried for 2 hours after breaking my system lol | 23:02 |
| wxl | do it in a virtual machine | 23:02 |
| noizk | Good idea. I'm going to do this next month or during Christmas | 23:02 |
| wxl | with virtual machines you can take snapshots and if you break something, revert back to them | 23:02 |
| wxl | i may revert my thinking about this fork of compton but it needs further investigation | 23:04 |
| noizk | perhaps it has nothing to do with the new version because I did a reboot | 23:05 |
| wxl | https://github.com/chjj/compton/graphs/code-frequency | 23:06 |
| wxl | :( | 23:06 |
| noizk | however I killed compton and restarted before | 23:06 |
| wxl | upstream *is* looking unmaintained | 23:06 |
| wxl | plus i see that the fork is providing actual releases, which is a good thing | 23:06 |
| wxl | if i can get a sense of the stability, that would help a lot | 23:06 |
| wxl | when they say "development branch" that really makes me concerned | 23:06 |
| noizk | for what I read the fork is the new thing since the original project is half-dead | 23:07 |
| wxl | that graph above kind of suggests as such | 23:07 |
| dabblerdude | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Latitude#Other_Models | 23:08 |
| wxl | there are 21 pull requests.. oldest is from 2013.. last commit at all from 2017 | 23:08 |
| noizk | if the fork becomes stable do you believe it's going to be ok ? | 23:08 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: There were different versions of the D520 that had either a Core Duo, Core 2 Duo, or Celeron CPU by default. | 23:08 |
| wxl | dabblerdude: IC :/ | 23:09 |
| wxl | noizk: yes | 23:09 |
| noizk | nice | 23:09 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: I'll put in a Core 2 in there. | 23:11 |
| dabblerdude | The chipset supports that. | 23:11 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: Sorry if I annoyed you, I just saw that you posted that emoji there. | 23:14 |
| noizk | poor wxl heping two newbies today | 23:14 |
| noizk | Let's give him a rest :) | 23:15 |
| dabblerdude | Ok. | 23:22 |
| wxl | sorry i'm at work so i come and go | 23:54 |
| jugaad | is there any gui way to change opengl settings ? | 23:55 |
| jugaad | i have installed e17 desktop using cmd- sudo apt install e17 , installation was done, while switching to the e17 desktop and setting it up, i get only blank screen with a cursor that's it. | 23:57 |
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