 Meizu Pro 5
[01:19] <ubptgbot> dshimer was added by: dshimer
 Fairphone 2 is latest
[02:35] <ubptgbot> Kevin Hall was added by: Kevin Hall
[02:35] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> your installer bricked my nexus 5
 What seems to be going on?
[02:36] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> your website said that there are no bugs with your mobile os and a nexus 5 although that is literally opposite of the case
[02:36] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> it got stuck for a couple days on the same screen that says flashing
[02:37] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> the installer*, the phone was in bootloader mode and said downloading when i started flashing although when i came back after a couple of days the phone didnt say downloading anymore
 I'm guessing the phone is bootlooping now?
[02:39] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> now i can either turn the phone on to bootloader mode or when i start it, the phone says that it cant verify if the os is corrupted or now
[02:39] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> not
[02:39] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> your linux version of your installer doesnt even recognize the device
 Wait... the Nexus 5 doesn't say that
 The 5X does
[02:40] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> i tried it in a vm and from a bootable usb
 One moment
[02:41] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> i was running the windows version of the installer in order to flash the device
 (Photo, 1280x949) https://irc.ubports.com/id7OcMzR.png
 Sorry about the quality, or lack thereof
 But which of these looks more like your device?
[02:41] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> the one on the right
 Okay, you have a Nexus 5X
 The one on the left is the Nexus 5
 They are different devices,  software for one is not compatible with the other
 Not to worry, though
 Since you can enter bootloader mode, you can flash any other Android ROM or the factory image to get it back to a working state
 Assuming it doesn't have a pre-existing hardware issue, which if yours was booting before it doesn't
 But your device is not supported by Ubuntu Touch
[02:42] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> i did using the instructions on this site
[02:42] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> https://developers.google.com/android/images#hammerhead
 Your device is `bullhead`
[02:43] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> ooh, i did that using the hammerhead version and now the phone wont turn on, do you know anything else i can do
 Okay, now it might be bricked
[02:44] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> gotcha
 It probably is booting into a special Qualcomm debug mode that it can be restored from
 You'll probably find your solution in an "Unbrick nexus 5X" post on XDA if that's the case
[02:45] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> i did see a message about qualcomm pop up on my computer when i was flashing the device
 Yeah, this isn't a good situation... You can recover from anything if you can get to that `fastboot` screen, but if not you're just about done...
 Try holding volume up and plugging in a USB cable
 If download mode starts up, you might be in business with something like https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/req-help-to-unbrick-t3251740
 Once it's working again, grab the bullhead factory image and flash that
 Then you should be good as new
[03:14] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> the computer recognizes that i plugged my phone in, it just doesnt recognize what it is
 (Photo, 949x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/V6hRjf0j.png In theory you get this
 From off, hold volume up then plug in the cable. Hold volume up until something happens
[03:21] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> nothing happened
 Might be dead
 Sorry about that...
[03:22] <ubptgbot> <Kevin Hall> all good, thank you
[03:23] <ubptgbot> sulimanp was added by: sulimanp
 Is there any chance to create paytm app?
 I'm using RC channel on my FP2 and I haven't received update from July 4. Is this normal? In the past I was receiving an update every 1-2 weeks
 @Mikeee_128 [Is there any chance to create paytm app?], too complicated
 @yatix [too complicated], Ok ..thnx for rply
[06:53] <ubptgbot> Hexagon16 RPM was added by: Hexagon16 RPM
 @dikelito [I'm using RC channel on my FP2 and I haven't received update from July 4. Is thi …], Because of a bug that needs fixing updates are on hold at the moment. As soon as that bug is sorted updates will come as usual.
 ok, thanks for the info
 you are welcome...
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[08:39] <ubptgbot> Vipin was added by: Vipin
 @Kevin Hall [i did using the instructions on this site], Your device is not supported. Do what Dalton said to you.
 Next time be more careful when reading.
 I am new to Ubuntu touch want to try on my phone which is running on flyme os. … Any steps on how to do that?
 [Edit] Next time be more careful when readi   instructions.
 [Edit] Next time be more careful when reading instructions.
 @Vipin [I am new to Ubuntu touch want to try on my phone which is running on flyme os. … A …], Which phone?
 It's Meizu Note 5
 @Vipin [It's Meizu Note 5], https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 The device is not in the list and I assume it is not supported
 @Vipin [The device is not in the list and I assume it is not supported], You are correct :(
 Ok, thanks for replying
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[10:49] <ubptgbot> Julius was added by: Julius
 To all the newcomers, welcome! Please take a look to https://ubports.com/meet-the-community to get you up to speed. … There are language focus groups available too 👌
 In Ubuntu Touch (and therefore Mir) is there some way of getteng the raw data from each pixel being displayed on the screen? Ideally with good performance and doable in C
[12:35] <ubptgbot> <Sebastien Vienneau> I know this is not for this group but I'm just trying to find out if it would work with any Linux distro/system in general...?
[12:35] <ubptgbot> <Sebastien Vienneau> (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/k0RrQY0p.png Would this and other similar products work on Deepin and Linux in general?
 @TuxThePenguin [In Ubuntu Touch (and therefore Mir) is there some way of getteng the raw data fr …], I imagine mirscreencast works on the phone. That's C.
[13:36] <ubptgbot> VkProhack was added by: VkProhack
 Hii
 Can someone tell me which nexus is good
 Fwiw I'm using a Nexus 5 as my daily driver :)
 Me too
 I'm using Nexus 4
 ...as my daily driver :)
 Fwd from Sconio: https://github.com/arora/arora
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/8xQvkoWB.png
 Hi, arora work in libertine
 Define "works" 😉
 @advocatux [Fwiw I'm using a Nexus 5 as my daily driver :)], Me 3
 hey there! … I've been trying to install UT onto my bq aquaris using ubports-installer and/or via terminal, none of which seem to work. any idea what I'm doing wrong?
 (Photo, 783x612) https://irc.ubports.com/O32uZbh0.png my report
[15:37] <ubptgbot> Rach_id was added by: Rach_id
 @Vipin [Ok, thanks for replying], The problem is that meizu didn't release the kernel source code of this device😡
 @Sebastien Vienneau [I know this is not for this group but I'm just trying to find out if it would wo …], That's what https://t.me/UBportsOF is for
 @Sebastien Vienneau [<reply to media>], Yes, I've had excellent success with one of these on Xubuntu 18.04, grabbing the data with `ffmpeg`. Those dongles aren't all the same though - only the second one I tried (bought from Lidl - I'm in Ireland) have me a stable image. I've got the cat on my lap now but I can send you snaps later of
[17:23] <ubptgbot> the details of the device I used and the `ffmpeg` command line.
 Also the video player I used is a Mitsubishi Black Diamond - decent quality for its time. I'll get the full details of that too.
 O que disse?
[18:42] <wozencroft> Does tethering on Nexus 5 work?
 Yes, you might need to turn it off and on a couple times for it to start broadcasting the SSID
[18:42] <wozencroft> I see, thank you for the hint
[18:44] <ubptgbot> Alaa was added by: Alaa
 We're live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt0gYaRfeTE
 @UniversalSuperBox [We're live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt0gYaRfeTE], Woot!
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 (Photo, 666x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/6ikTDli3.png
 (Photo, 666x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/JnHQ3tiY.png This link points to the old mastadon
 @MitchKiah [<reply to media>], Ah! Thank you for the heads up. I'll forward it to the people who can fix it :)
 yeah, that's not efficiency
 neither is spending a lot of time talking about it :P
 lol bugs everywhere XD
 I'm a bug. I've gained consciousness and have started targeting other bugs to gain dominance. Shhhh, don't tell anyone, and definitely don't look at line 873 in any of the source files.
 😄
 Btw my comment was related to Marius "eating" mosquitoes 😆
 the problem is that on 16.04 the user session is run with upstart, but in 18.04 it was also moved to systemd
[19:47] <flaburgan> hi everyone
[19:47] <flaburgan> does anybody have a solution to use signal on UT?
 does the app in the store not work?
 @flaburgan [does anybody have a solution to use signal on UT?], There is a app with quite some bugs in the openstore
[19:49] <ubptgbot> <Tobs End> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/2QWIyfio.webp
[19:49] <flaburgan> no, it is very buggy, I can't answer to group which is my main usage of Signal
[19:49] <flaburgan> last release is from 2017...
 (the author of the app is the one that replied to you)
[19:50] <flaburgan> nanu_c or dohbee?
 @flaburgan [last release is from 2017...], 7 months ago is not 2017
 @flaburgan [nanu_c or dohbee?], nanu
[19:51] <flaburgan> well, according to https://github.com/nanu-c/textsecure-qml/releases
[19:51] <flaburgan> but maybe the release wasn't tagged on github?
[19:52] <flaburgan> well first of all nanu_c thank you for your work ;)
 i don't know about that. but the release in open-store (0.4.1) was 7 months ago
[19:53] <flaburgan> hm, yeah, last commits in the master branch are from januray 2019
[19:53] <flaburgan> that matches
[19:54] <flaburgan> hey, I have an update of the camera app, nice
[19:56] <flaburgan> @nanu_c are you still interested about maintaining that app, and do you want bug reports and suggestions?
 i think he would like some help developing it
[19:58] <flaburgan> yeah I can understand that, unfortunately I don't think I have knowledge to do so
 If anyone wants a little bit of laid-back vidya chat, we're hanging out in appear.in/ubports-chat
[20:00] <flaburgan> btw this is the issue I was talking about: https://github.com/nanu-c/textsecure-qml/issues/59
 @Flohack you're great
[20:07] <wozencroft> I'm afraid bugs like with Signal make it a bit hard for non-tech people to use something like ubports or sailfish
 It won't get any better if we just throw our hands up and say it doesn't work though. ;)
[20:08] <wozencroft> e or lineage for microg seem to be more usable in this respect right now
[20:08] <wozencroft> UniversalSuperBox: That's  true
[20:13] <flaburgan> even without microg, lineageos has way less bugs than UT for me
[20:13] <flaburgan> on fairphone 2 I can list a dozen of bugs hitting me daily
[20:14] <flaburgan> looks like OTA-10 is fixing the selfie camera position
[20:14] <flaburgan> but it wasn't the most annoying
[20:14] <flaburgan> I don't want to complain though, UT is aweseome
[20:15] <flaburgan> still I'd like to help, and it looks like reporting bugs and $50 bucks on patreon isn't enough
 Something is absolutely better than nothing, thank you for your generosity
 (That's a big something if that wasn't clear)
[20:16] <flaburgan> @UniversalSuperBox I guess next step is to talk about it
[20:16] <flaburgan> so more people using it == more donations
[20:16] <wozencroft> flaburgan: Yeah, I've seen awesome vids about ubports, this is how I got interested
[20:17] <flaburgan> however I'm not feeling good about promoting something buggy like that, at least not to Joe average people
[20:17] <wozencroft> flaburgan: Yes, that's how I feel too
[20:18] <wozencroft> If there is something not working properly, non-tech user just get frustrated and switch to something mainstream
[20:18] <flaburgan> @nanu_c I activated the logs to help solve bugs, where can I find them?
 then, non-tech users should not use Ubuntu Touch
 Many people are programming altruistically and that requires effort.
[20:19] <wozencroft> mimecar: If someone configured a good working basic system, they can get along
 Bugs may appear in any application. The only one that gets rid is the "Hello world app"
[20:25] <flaburgan> @mimecar the problem is the bug inside the system itself, for example, the sharing connection by wifi cannot be stopped on started at the moment at least on Fairphone 2. I mean you can toggle it off, but it has no effect on the hardware. I can tell you that only because the phone becomes very hot and the battery drops to 0 in one hour once I toggled it on and then off
[20:25] <flaburgan> this is probably a driver bug
[20:26] <flaburgan> not something trivial to find
[20:26] <flaburgan> that's the problem of working on phones, that's very different than on x86
[20:26] <flaburgan> so many different hardware
[20:26] <flaburgan> that's why iOS is so good comparing to android
[20:27] <flaburgan> they deal only with the hardware they own
 It is reasonably simple to make an operating system if you control the hardware.
 The downside is that if that manufacturer closes, you can't do anything. With Android that does not happen.
[20:42] <flaburgan> @nanu_c is the readme of textsecure up-to-date? Was I suppose to install it manually and not use the version in the open store? https://github.com/nanu-c/textsecure-qml
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/UmqtFsBW.webp
 @wozencroft [mimecar: If someone configured a good working basic system, they can get along], many people are using UT on a daily basis without any real issues. "my pet app is not available, or the third party alternative available has some bugs" is hardly cause for other people to not be using UT.
 @flaburgan [however I'm not feeling good about promoting something buggy like that, at least …], survivor bias doesn't help either. just because you aren't hitting the bugs which exist in a different platform, doesn't mean the bugs aren't there or others won't hit them
 it's also completely feasible to support UT and help it get better, using it on a secondary device, while one may need android or ios on a primary device for some various reasons
 Right now UT is my secondary device. I want it to be my main, and I’m hoping after OTA 10 it will be at a point where I can.
 Right now main device is a BlackBerry Classic.
[21:06] <flaburgan> @Braillynn what do you need / what do you use your phone for?
[21:07] <flaburgan> @dohbee or maybe a dual boot?
 I’m pretty basic, I text, call, take pictures, browse the web, do online banking, have a few chat apps and email.
 I will say that phone calls on my OnePlus One have been the best I’ve ever heard on any phone.
 I try to avoid iOS and Android, but I have an HP Elite X3, a Lumia 950 the BlackBerry Classic and the OPO running UT. I also backed the Librem 5 and will preorder the Pine Phone when it’s available.
 I do have an iPad Pro that I’m in love with but goal wise is to get away from it.
[21:18] <wozencroft> Braillynn: Why are you in love with that iPad Pro?
[22:25] <ubptgbot> <Sebastien Vienneau> @benklaasen [Yes, I've had excellent success with one of these on Xubuntu 18.04, grabbing the …], Sounds good thanks
[22:26] <ubptgbot> <Sebastien Vienneau> @UniversalSuperBox [Yes, you might need to turn it off and on a couple times for it to start broadca …], What do you mean by turn it off and on?
 @Sebastien Vienneau [What do you mean by turn it off and on?], Tap the "Hotspot" switch
[22:38] <wozencroft> Does secure boot has to be disabled first for ubports flashing?
[22:39] <wozencroft> Well, obviously no...
[23:04] <ubptgbot> Cadell Stewart was added by: Cadell Stewart
[23:05] <ubptgbot> <Cadell Stewart> Installed ut a few days ago been trying to get wireless display working with no luck thought it might be the Xbox Miracast but if tried it with about 5 different devices to cast to without any longer ck all that appears is failure to connect I'm on Nexus 5 ota9
[23:06] <ubptgbot> <Cadell Stewart> Any luck*
[23:11] <ubptgbot> Ксения Кобелева was added by: Ксения Кобелева
 @wozencroft [Braillynn: Why are you in love with that iPad Pro?], Apples app support is astonishing. And the things my phones lack like banking apps are well supported on the iPad. Also dating apps don’t have websites I can use in browser.
 @Cadell Stewart [Installed ut a few days ago been trying to get wireless display working with no …], There's an open bug with wireless display right now.
[23:13] <ubptgbot> <Cadell Stewart> Would slimport or mhl work for meanwhile?
 Slimport on nexus 5 works, yes. And better than miracast on any device
[23:22] <wozencroft> Is it sure that those manual installation lines for the nexus 5 are up to date? Looks like the file with the end 4f4fdd.tar.xz is missing
[23:24] <wozencroft> device-fc69d13....
[23:26] <ubptgbot> <Cadell Stewart> Awesome thankyou, I'm not all too sure used the installation media and updated through settings says up to date ?
[23:29] <wozencroft> Hmm, actually the tar.xz file is there, I also have it in /pool
[23:32] <ubptgbot> <Cadell Stewart> Sry thankyou lol
[23:41] <wozencroft> Ok, sorry, it works fine indeed. A short addendum might be that thoes fastboot oem unlock etc. command require sudo. And before creating that text file it boots to the ubports recovery screen (after selecting recover mode).
[23:47] <ubptgbot> Joseph Rodriguez was added by: Joseph Rodriguez
[23:48] <wozencroft> adb reboot recovery should be sudo or not? used sudo, it runs fine