[06:57] <knightwise> morning everyone
[07:00] <brobostigon> morning
[07:06] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[07:06] <knightwise> how you doin man
[07:07] <brobostigon> hangover, today is my birthday, i had a drink with my dad yesterday, and this afternoon with my fiance and friends.
[07:07] <brobostigon> and you?
[07:07] <knightwise> happy birthday brobostigon
[07:07] <brobostigon> ty, :)
[07:07] <knightwise> hope you have a great day
[07:07] <brobostigon> :)
[07:07]  * knightwise is writing up a script for the next podcast
[07:07] <brobostigon> :)
[07:08] <knightwise> my new imac running helium is realy helping me with my creativity , i have more focus to write to i started working on a script
[07:09] <brobostigon> thats good,
[07:09]  * brobostigon bought himself a google home, so his productivity will dip a bit now.
[07:36] <knightwise> brobostigon: its quite nice actualy
[07:36] <knightwise> I use it to play podcasts and stuff. Very handy
[07:37] <brobostigon> yes, i found it easy to setup, however the home app isnt the easiest to work out.
[07:37] <knightwise> no thats true. We use it a lot to do stuff like turning on the lights and the tv and stuff
[07:37] <knightwise> I still have 2 spare smartlights for the office I should setup
[07:37] <brobostigon> :)
[11:06]  * zmoylan-pi struggles with the light switch... :-P
[11:09]  * brobostigon points zmoylan-pi in the right direction.
[11:31]  * zmoylan-pi changes the lightbulb to the red bulb for red alerts and initiates red alert procedures... i flick the light switch to turn on the red bulb...
[11:33] <penguin42> klingon's on the starboard bow?
[11:33] <zmoylan-pi> intruder alert pointing at the light switch!!
[11:35]  * brobostigon rolls for perception, 
[11:36]  * zmoylan-pi checks stats, half elf, dark vision...
[11:37] <brobostigon> wood elf
[11:37] <zmoylan-pi> now there's an idea. a cut down dnd that can be played irc... maybe an abbreviated tunnels and trolls...
[11:40] <brobostigon> :)
[12:59] <knightwise> I should probably learn how to play DND
[12:59]  * knightwise has no clue
[13:00] <knightwise> Ok , gonna check if I can record a podcast here.
[13:00] <knightwise> ttyl
[14:12] <knightwise> allllright!
[14:12] <knightwise> just managed to get sshfs working via fuse on my mac
[14:13] <knightwise> now mounting all of the folder on my server natively on my mac
[14:13] <knightwise> THIS is gonna save me a ton of time
[14:13] <zmoylan-pi> oooh, sounds good....
[14:16] <knightwise> YES è
[14:16] <knightwise> Thrilled about this. all i need now is to find a way to do the same thing on windows
[14:17] <knightwise> https://codeyarns.com/2018/05/03/how-to-mount-remote-directory-on-windows-using-sshfs-win/
[14:17] <knightwise> gonna try this
[20:37] <brobostigon> is anyone aware of a router/ap that has two earials, ie can connect to one wifi network and the other aerial running as a wifi AP?
[20:41] <zmoylan-pi> does it need 2 aerials to do that?
[20:41] <brobostigon> good question, i am making an assumption.
[20:44] <daftykins> it wouldn't need to be a router if it were just extending an existing network
[20:45] <daftykins> there are extender APs, but making packets hop twice is an absolute abomination and shouldn't be done
[20:45] <daftykins> if you're wanting to cover a wifi deadspot in the home or something, a pair of powerline adapters where one of the two is an access point one would be a good solution
[20:45] <daftykins> better yet - a normal access point with a cable back to the main router
[20:50] <brobostigon> i will research those, good thinking. :)
[20:55] <penguin42> brobostigon: There are wireless extenders that do exactly that
[20:55] <penguin42> brobostigon: There are also wireless routers that you can add multiple and they somehow organise themselves
[20:56] <brobostigon> so either option could work, just need to work out which is going to be most cost effective.
[20:58] <daftykins> those do not sound like routers, but mesh APs - all bollocks
[20:58] <daftykins> i highly, highly... strongly advise against anything that relies on radio hopping twice :P
[21:01] <brobostigon> the issue i am ultimatly trying to solve, is the wifi network at work, cant allow devices to see eachother, ie when i tried to setup a google home at work it wouldnt work because the phone and home couldnt see eachother, which works fine on my home at home, because it allows devices to see eachother connected to the same network.
[21:01] <penguin42> yeh if you can't point to the wire that your packets slithering down, just dont believe it
[21:01] <daftykins> yeah they've probably turned on wifi client isolation
[21:02] <daftykins> pretty common setting on some stuff
[21:02] <daftykins> why is any smart tosh getting hooked up in a workplace though? D:
[21:03] <penguin42> so the boss can say 'Engage!'
[21:03] <daftykins> ooh there's a wet trout with their name on :)
[21:04] <daftykins> ah, exciting times in an hour from now - doing a late birthday surprise for a pal, i paid a couple of sci-fi TV show celebs on cameo.com to do birthday greeting videos for him - and they did an incredible job of it
[21:05] <penguin42> which celebs?
[21:05] <daftykins> two peeps that were in the 2003 Battlestar Galactica
[21:05] <penguin42> ah
[21:06]  * penguin42 hadn't heard of Cameo
[21:06] <brobostigon> daftykins: my thinking exactly, after a little testing.
[21:06] <daftykins> nah nor me, someone mentioned it by chance the Thursday before last - i knew a birthday was coming up so i jumped at the chance :D
[21:07] <brobostigon> my answer right now, is having a usb wifi adaptor on my desktop boardcasting a seperate network, so both devices can see eachother and use the network underneath.
[21:09] <daftykins> dunno what your workplace is like, but that breaks so many terms to me xD
[21:09] <brobostigon> however i am trying to think of a more permanent answer.
[21:10] <brobostigon> daftykins: atm they dont know about it, i plan to bring it up and whats needs changing to get it working.
[21:13] <daftykins> don't know about the wifi isolation or the Google smart trash? :D
[21:13] <penguin42> daftykins: Hehe some names I actually recognise on there
[21:13] <daftykins> :)
[21:14] <brobostigon> i am just trying to think if there is a way around the client isolation.
[21:14] <daftykins> well you'd have to query the config of the wifi providing device(s)
[21:15] <brobostigon> which already a set of extenders anyway.
[21:15] <brobostigon> which is*
[21:15] <daftykins> ugh
[21:15] <brobostigon> exactly.
[21:16] <daftykins> sounds like it's just a symptom of those then, usually a smart gadget would rely on broadcast use so those probably don't work at that layer
[21:16] <daftykins> pretty common shortcoming
[21:16] <brobostigon> agreed.
[22:31] <penguin42> daftykins: I can imagine a version of cameo where it first gives you a deep-fake version of what you ask for, and if you dont think its good enough asks you to pay the real actor $n more
[22:33] <daftykins> hahaha