[00:00] <sarnold> DOSfan: what are you trying to start?
[00:00] <calamari> fleabeard: There is a way to prevent that error, but it makes starting Windows 10 slower. Page also has a quick fix: https://itsfoss.com/solve-ntfs-mount-problem-ubuntu-windows-8-dual-boot/
[00:01] <fleabeard> calamari, ty, I will give that a read
[00:02] <DOSfan> sarnold: a small program called tint2 ... it's like a task bar for Unity .. works fine and I have it configured .. I just want it to start on startup ... and if I can find this startup file I want to run Plasma (which I easily do using 'kstart plasmashell' from terminal), I just want to add thoes 2. I am in the /.config/autostart ... just not to sure what comes next.
[00:04] <DOSfan> sarnold: oh wait I might have gotten this .. i didn't know you could ADD using that Startup GUI .. lemme look at this.
[00:04] <sarnold> DOSfan: woo :)
[00:05] <DOSfan> sarnold: Can I use commands in that COMMAND line or is it looking to launch some parameter file
[00:06] <sarnold> DOSfan: I'd expect if it says "command" that you can put commands in there
[00:06] <sarnold> DOSfan: though sometimes desktop startup things do expect a .desktop file :/
[00:07] <DOSfan> sarnold: Well let me tr and reboot
[00:15] <fleabeard> calamari, ty for your help! I got it sorted now with that link you sent me :)
[00:18] <calamari> fleabeard: great!
[00:27] <RonWhoCares> Help!  I clicked something and my LibreOffice word processor window is hidden
[00:27] <RonWhoCares> Any idea?
[00:27] <uRock> hit the WIndows key on your keyboard to see if it pops up
[00:29] <RonWhoCares> aHH.  It went postal in workspace #3
[00:29] <uRock> lol
[00:29] <uRock> been there, done that
[00:57] <syntaxxxerr0r> ew workspaces
[01:14]  * uRock likes using workspaces
[01:35] <syntaxxxerr0r> k way too much as it be.. workspaces is aksing for troubles
[02:45] <p0a> Hello I just had a really weird bootup where the `ubuntu' logo was stuck on the screen for >5 minutes and pressing the arrow keys brought up the status console that showed [***    ] Waiting for start process Hold blah blah, something like that
[02:45] <p0a> before that it mentioned a bug report daemon
[03:02] <illuminated> well, great deal.  I can't get the net install of ubuntu to work
[03:02] <illuminated> for the x86 arch
[03:02] <illuminated> two different versions, both error on installing the kernel
[03:03] <p0a> illuminated: what's the error?
[03:04] <illuminated> bootstrap-base failed with error code 1
[03:05] <p0a> can you paste the exact error
[03:06] <illuminated> well, I started the install over again...
[03:06] <illuminated> anyway, so how would I get the exact error
[03:06] <illuminated> that's basically what the error said in /var/log/syslog
[03:10] <illuminated> there really was nothing any more helpful than that in syslog
[03:20] <aneon> le fail
[04:55] <plongshot> Can anyone identify the directories under / (on ubuntu 18.04) that the operating system is the only thing tha modifies content there?
[04:56] <plongshot> For example I think maybe /var is one directory a human user would never modify anything in (I mean the content of the files). Only the operating system modifies files in /var right?
[04:56] <plongshot> What are all of those instnaces on the ubuntu 18.04 system?
[05:23] <untoreh> trying to run any app installed with snap gives "cannot perform operation: mount --rbind /home /tmp/snap.rootfs_xxxxx//home: Permission denied" halp
[05:50] <mnathani> How do I disable the keyring popup
[08:21] <ivoadf> Hi, I am having some trouble with slow wifi on ubuntu 19.04. I am not completely sure when this issue started but it was either when I upgraded to 19.04 or when I tried to setup my bluetooth headphones.My wireless interface is a Qualcomm Atheros. The main issue is the speed that I am getting. On my phone using the same connection from the same location I get 270Mbs but on the laptop I get 30Mbs even if I put the laptop
[08:21] <ivoadf> right next to the router. The speed was the same in the past. Could you give me some hints on how to debug this further? I would like to completely disable bluetooth to make sure that is not the root cause of my problem. Thanks.
[08:50] <hortiel> hello
[08:50] <hortiel> vim fetches from .cache, and .vim, .viminfo, but vi has no such directory. to fetch vi -r file
[08:50] <hortiel> hi, where does vi not vim, stored or swapes it's files for later recovery
[08:50] <hortiel> from where does vi -r file; get the file, which directory.
[08:51] <guiverc> hortiel, on my lubuntu, vi is a symbolic link to vim (via /etc/alternatives/vi)
[08:56] <hortiel> guiverc: ok, and how do I know if vi is a symbolic link here?
[08:58] <hortiel> vi is anyway, where is the recovery file stored/
[08:58] <guiverc> hortiel, `whereis vi`, then `file /usr/bin/vi` for my system
[08:59] <hortiel> guiverc: but wheere is the swap file, no such swap file
[09:00] <guiverc> you haven't said your release, but a .swp file will be created in $PWD on my system, so I'd expect the same on your release too
[09:00] <guiverc> ($PWD = present working directory)
[09:03] <heller_> hey
[09:05] <hortiel> there was no .swp or any other dot file in a test directory that I created, and vi -r file , still recoverred the file from an unknown source. guiverc
[09:05] <guiverc> heller_, if you have a Ubuntu support question, please just ask it and someone will repsond when they can (try and keep to a single line if possible)
[09:05] <hortiel> gritter version 4.0
[09:06] <heller_> Well i was thinking if its an ubuntu issue or not
[09:06] <heller_> i'm running ubuntu with samba for few windows machines
[09:06] <heller_> some machines can use the samba share by network name and others cant
[09:11] <guiverc> hortiel, maybe you could check out /usr/share/vim/vimrc (or /usr/share/vim/vimrc.tiny which possibly is called on 'vi'; sorry I haven't typed `vi` in years)
[09:12] <guiverc> heller_, i haven't used samba in years, but different versions of windows have issues with vers= as I recall, but given you mention by network name I'd also check dns but this is all guess
[09:12] <guiverc> (if you're patient; another user with better knowledge may respond in time..)
[09:15] <tete_> hi, i have some problems with my sound. i installed yesterday 18.04 and updated to 19.04. all 5-10 seconds i have some cracks in the sound. i have a onboard sound card, a pci sound card and a sound card in the monitor. i use the onboard sound card for my 2 studio monitors. any idea where i can look for errors?
[09:18] <hortiel> guiverc: /var/lib/ex is the "preservation directory" but does vi remove the file, thus leaving the data on disk... after I recover the file, so that my data is still on disk without any file name/ say passwords I write.. and then vi -r file, then vi recovers the file, but leaves the old file, by rm it
[09:24] <waheedi> when this happens wpa_supplicant[1239]: Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
[09:24] <waheedi> what does it mean?
[09:27] <guiverc> hortiel, i believe on exit temporary files are removed; so only if killed should any .swp files remain (but this is belief from long ago & i could be wrong)
[09:28] <hortiel> guiverc: it remains after pkill vi; in /var/lib/ex
[09:29] <guiverc> yes when I said exit I meant :q, :q!, :wq etc  (normal exit; not killed)
[09:33] <ivoadf> Hi, I am having a weird issue with Wifi speed. My laptop tests at 30Mbs while my phone tests at 240Mbs. The ping is also higher on my laptop. I suspect this might be related to some bluetooth setup I tried to do last weekend, I tried reverting all changes but the problem persists. I have tried the solutions highlighted here https://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/ and also removed all bluetooth related
[09:33] <ivoadf> packages and configurations. Could you guys please give me some guidance on how to debug this further? I am using ubuntu 19.04, I tried live booting from a usb drive with ubuntu 18.04 and the problem persists. I also tried to move from network manager to wicd and the problem remains. Thanks for the help.
[09:56] <cukier> Hi! Are there any problems I need to be aware of if I wanted to watch netflix on ubuntu?
[09:57] <ZaZaGX> maybe you would have to turn on DRM in firefox, but thats about it
[09:57] <cukier> Thank you!
[09:58] <ZaZaGX> it should pop a little enable DRM button under the toolbar. or you can enable it in settings
[10:00] <cukier> I just wanted to make sure that there is no windows-only DRM or something like that before paying. :)
[10:01] <ZaZaGX> oh okay, which ubuntu version you going to use?
[10:04] <cukier> It works perfectly in firefox after clicking the little enable DRM button, as you said :)
[10:05] <cukier> It doesn't work with chromium, but that's not a big deal.
[10:05] <cukier> I have 19.04
[10:05] <ZaZaGX> okay cool
[10:06] <ZaZaGX> i think it works in google chrome. not sure about chromium
[10:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:16] <hortiel> hi
[10:17] <ZaZaGX> hi
[10:25] <plutes> so I got disconnected last night, how can I figure out the reason behind it, what log files should I look at?
[10:27] <Mathisen> plutes, diosconnected from what..
[10:27] <plutes> irc + looks like it was down until I restarted little while ago, I dont get why
[10:29] <Mathisen> plutes, it is kinda normal you know to dc from irc sometimes.. even with a "stable" line.
[10:30] <plutes> Mathisen, seems like my whole internet connection dropped, what logs point to the internet connection
[10:32] <Mathisen> syslog ?
[10:32] <Mathisen> > /var/log
[10:34] <plutes> Mathisen, Thanks
[10:38] <plutes> Mathisen, just tried to copy it to html, I tried. cat syslog > syslog0ne.html permission denied
[10:39] <Mathisen> sudo*
[10:39] <Mathisen> sudo cat ......
[10:43] <plutes> had to sudo cp, then sudo mv
[13:28] <waheedi> any advice on getting the wifi up on ubuntu 18.04 arm 64 for pi 3
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> !arm | waheedi
[13:28] <waheedi> thanks lotuspsychje
[14:37] <amosbird> Hi, how can I apt-get install this   https://clickhouse-builds.s3.yandex.net/5417/e7393689aad2cbd159e319b5679940bd9d067127/1564194909_deb/clickhouse-client_19.13.1.923+ubsan_all.deb
[14:54] <galileopy> Hello everyone!!! I'm using xubuntu in my personal laptop and at work I use kubuntu.
[14:55] <galileopy> I'm a fan of dropdown terminals, and the one that comes with kubuntu is really nice
[14:55] <galileopy> specially becasue it has the "split view" feature
[14:55] <galileopy> and I'm looking for recomendations of "split view" terminals that play nice on xfce, anyone got suggestions?
[14:57] <uRock> amosbird, if you have it downloaded, then run sudo dpkg -i <packagename> or install it with Gdebi.
[14:58] <uRock> galileopy, split view terminal?
[14:58] <galileopy> split layout, you can run on the same "window" or tab two emulators.
[15:00] <galileopy> side by side, or one above the other. and it's not konsole that has that feature, apparently is yakuake. that I just found out doesn't really have too many deps on the kde side
[15:30] <seven-eleven> what is `snap save` snapshotting? only snap apps and config files or could it also snapshot everything in $HOME?
[15:32] <uRock> https://snapcraft.io/docs/snapshots
[15:32] <uRock> "The snap save command creates a snapshot for all installed snaps, or if declared individually, specific snaps"
[15:33] <seven-eleven> ok so only snap related things
[15:33] <uRock> seems like
[15:33] <seven-eleven> i read the page before but this sounded ambigious "A snapshot is a copy of the user, system and configuration data stored by snapd for one or more snaps on your system." i wasn't sure user data of snaps or user data of the system
[15:34] <uRock> Yeah, looks like a great tool for those who only use snaps
[15:35] <seven-eleven> i wanted to replace libvirt by ubuntu's multipass VM manager, but seems snapshots aren't supported yet :-)
[15:35] <seven-eleven> so gotta go with libvirt
[15:37] <tbsf> I added an SSD and used clonezilla to clone my HDD. Grub is still using hd0 for my Ubuntu installation so it boots my HDD, how do I update it on the SSD?
[15:37] <uRock> Do you have both drives in?
[15:37] <tbsf> Yeah
[15:38] <tbsf> Should I edit the lines in /boot/grub/grub.cfg that say hd0,gpt5 to read hd1,gpt5?
[15:38] <uRock> I believe you have to remove the old one, then boot from a live image and run the boot repair
[15:39] <TJ-> tbsf: is the boot-mode UEFI or BIOS/legacy ?
[15:39] <tbsf> UEFI I think
[15:39] <uRock> My instructions may not work for eufi. I've not done much with eufi systems
[15:41] <seven-eleven> problem solved, i could simply set the backend to libvirt in multipass
[15:41] <TJ-> tbsf: There are two, possibly three, issues you need to take care of. 1) duplicated file-system UUIDs - these need to be different else you have 2 file-systems both with the same UUID 2) re-configure the GRUB boot loader from the OS to recognise which OS/UUID it belongs to 3) tell the PC firmware UEFI the correct boot device
[15:42] <tbsf> I ran update-grub and copied the configs to the new drive, going to see if it lets me select the right drive. brb rebooting
[15:46] <tbsf> that didn't seem to work
[15:47] <tbsf> Do I need to generate a new UUID for the copied partition?
[15:47] <TJ-> tbsf: What is the final aim, to remove the HDD install entirely, or have both HDD and SSD able to boot?
[15:47] <tbsf> I want to boot from the SSD, then reformat the HDD
[15:48] <TJ-> tbsf: OK, so the HDD will become in effect a data storage volume?
[15:48] <tbsf> yes
[15:48] <TJ-> tbsf: Are you currently using IRC from the HDD booted system?
[15:48] <tbsf> yes
[15:49] <TJ-> tbsf: lets collect some info to figure out how things stand. Show us the URL from the command " pastebinit <( lsblk -f; sudo blkid; efibootmgr -v ) "
[15:50] <luna> will be on a picture at Debconf today and tommorow
[15:51] <tbsf> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HTygkTBqTY/
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> luna: not here please
[15:51] <seven-eleven> where does multipass store the vms?
[15:51] <tbsf> So I have nvme0n1p5 and sda5 with the same UUID
[15:52] <TJ-> tbsf: you see lines 25-37-ish, the duplicate UUIDs... ah you spotted them!
[15:52] <tbsf> I can create a new UUID for nvme0n1p5 and run update-grub?
[15:53] <tbsf> or will that screw up something else?
[15:53] <tbsf> I could also boot from an iso and generate a UUID for sda5
[15:53] <seven-eleven> aa-status lists `libvirt-4c3736ae-5a1c-441b-b827-d26f29fb362f` as an enforced profile but if I do aa-complain on it it says it cant find its path
[15:55] <seven-eleven> how can i stop all enforced profile temporarily in apparmor?
[15:56] <TJ-> tbsf: lets do the easy one first, "sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/nvme0n1p5"
[15:57] <tbsf> TJ-: done
[15:58] <tbsf> TJ-: uuids are different now
[16:00] <tbsf> gonna try it. brb rebooting
[16:03] <tbsf> didn't work
[16:04] <tbsf> I ran update-grub and copied the config to the ssd's /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:05] <TJ-> tbsf: I wasn't finished giving you instructions... but takign time to test them here!
[16:05] <TJ-> tbsf: "sudo apt install mtools"  then "  echo -e 'drive d: file="/dev/nvme0n1p2\ntools_skip_check=1" ' > ~/.mtoolsrc  "
[16:07] <Mattgphoto> Hello all, I've got a question... my console on Ubuntu Server 18.04 fills up easily enough with messages like this:    [296.451090] CIFS VFS: Free previous auth_key.response = 00000000fece7265
[16:07] <Mattgphoto> Is this something I should be worried about?
[16:07] <Mattgphoto> My /etc/fstab looks like this:
[16:07] <Mattgphoto> UUID=7439039c-f672-11e8-a518-0019b9f9e096 / btrfs defaults 0 0
[16:08] <TJ-> tbsf: oops, slight typo in that last command, need to redo it:  "echo -e 'drive d: file="/dev/nvme0n1p2"\nmtools_skip_check=1 ' > ~/.mtoolsrc  "
[16:08] <tbsf> TJ-: what does that do?
[16:09] <TJ-> tbsf: mtools contains the command 'mlabel' which allows us to change the pseudo-UUID of the EFI-SP vfat file-system, and it takes DOS/Windows style drive designators so we have to create a mapping on its configuration file
[16:10] <tbsf> oh, I see
[16:10] <tbsf> that's the /boot/efi in fstab?
[16:10] <TJ-> tbsf: once you've created that mapping you can change the UUID with: "sudo mlabel -n d:"
[16:10] <TJ-> tbsf: correct
[16:10] <TJ-> tbsf: we have more to do but we're not far off
[16:11] <opios> im on ubuntu 16.04 , how can i solve this problem with ruby?
[16:11] <opios>   /opt/gitlab/embedded/bin/ruby: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.25' not found (required by /opt/gitlab/embedded/lib/libruby.so.2.5)
[16:11] <tbsf> TJ-: uuid should be changed
[16:12] <tbsf> Do I copy both of those to /etc/fstab on the ssd?
[16:12] <TJ-> tbsf: you can confirm that with "lsblk -f"
[16:13] <tbsf> TJ-: looking good
[16:13] <TJ-> tbsf: I presume you want to keep the existing Windows NTFS file-systems?
[16:13] <tbsf> Yes
[16:13] <tbsf> on the SSD
[16:14] <TJ-> tbsf: so, as the SSD will remain and Windows is sensitive to UUID changes of NTFS, we'll alter the NTFS UUIDs on the HDD instead
[16:15] <TJ-> tbsf: ensure the tools are installed: "sudo apt install ntfs-3g"
[16:15] <tbsf> TJ-: they are
[16:16] <Mattgphoto> opios looks like you should be able to do something like:
[16:16] <TJ-> tbsf: then "sudo ntfslabel --new-half-serial /dev/sda1; sudo ntfslabel --new-half-serial /dev/sda4 "
[16:16] <Mattgphoto> sudo apt-get update
[16:16] <Mattgphoto> sudo apt-get install libc6
[16:16] <Mattgphoto> Not sure if you tried that yet or not
[16:18] <tbsf> TJ-: ok
[16:19] <tbsf> TJ-: It didn't work on sda4, but I think it's fine, because I was able to boot from the SSD on windows earlier
[16:19] <TJ-> tbsf: after that we'll create a chroot of the Linux OS on the SSD and use it to update the configuration.  So create a mount-point and mount to it: "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount/dev/nvme0n1p5 /target"
[16:19] <tbsf> TJ-: got it mounted
[16:19] <TJ-> tbsf: where is it mounted? what path?
[16:20] <tbsf> "/media/daniel/nvmubuntu"
[16:20] <TJ-> tbsf: OK, that was done but udisks. Did you do any chroot-related operations mounting proc sys dev inside there too?
[16:21] <opios> Mattgphoto, I did that but the sad part it anytime i run any apt command in the end to want to upgrade gitlab too and it fail
[16:22] <Mattgphoto> Hrm, I'm not sure opios
[16:23] <tbsf> TJ-: The only thing I did was mount the drive there and update the grub.cfg
[16:24] <opios> libc6 is already the newest version (2.23-0ubuntu11).
[16:24] <opios> Mattgphoto,
[16:25] <TJ-> tbsf: OK, to avoid udisks/GUI interference in what we need to do tell udisks to umount it from there with "udisksctl unmount -b /dev/nvme0n1p5"
[16:26] <TJ-> tbsf: the create a mount-point and mount to it: "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p5 /target"
[16:26] <TJ-> tbsf: then do "for n in proc sys dev etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --rbind /$n /target/$n; done "
[16:26] <TJ-> tbsf: then you can enter the other OS with "sudo chroot /target"
[16:28] <TJ-> tbsf: from here I want to check what this OS 'sees' before we go further, so " pastebinit <( cat /etc/fstab; lsblk -f ) "
[16:29] <seven-eleven> http://dpaste.com/227GGX7
[16:29] <tbsf> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cZ3Cpbh4Yn/
[16:30] <tbsf> TJ-: I did get this error when installing pastebinit: "grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory."
[16:32] <tbsf> it still worked though
[16:34] <TJ-> tbsf: OK, give me a moment to cross-reference the changes. Weirdly, lsblk -f didn't report the UUIDs, which it should have
[16:34] <strive> Use blkid
[16:34] <tbsf> do I need blkid too?
[16:35] <TJ-> tbsf: no
[16:35] <TJ-> tbsf: show me "pastebinit <( mount )"
[16:36] <tbsf> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C6xKcBfB6Q/
[16:40] <TJ-> tbsf: that looks correct, so we'll resort to blkid to auto-change the UUIDs in fstab. " sed -i 's/UUID=29735c18-9887-468a-9f3d-47755317d460/UUID='$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/nvme0n1p5)/' /etc/fstab "
[16:41] <TJ-> tbsf: and .. " sed -i 's/UUID=508F-399B/UUID='$(blkid -s UUID -o value) /dev/nvme0n1p2)/' /etc/fstab "
[16:42] <TJ-> tbsf: then confirm "cat /etc/fstab" UUIDs match "blkid /dev/nvme0n1p*"
[16:42] <TJ-> tbsf: then do "grub-install /dev/nvme0n1"
[16:43] <TJ-> tbsf: and finally show me "pastebinit <( efibootmgr -v )"
[16:45] <TJ-> tbsf: arrrghh! another typo in the second sed command, hang on
[16:45] <TJ-> tbsf: too many )s!!  " sed -i 's/UUID=508F-399B/UUID='$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/nvme0n1p2)/' /etc/fstab "
[16:45] <tbsf> TJ-: I just updated with vim
[16:45] <TJ-> tbsf: the long-winded way :)
[16:45] <tbsf> TJ-: I thought I was copying it incorrectly
[16:46] <TJ-> tbsf: ahhh, blame me instead :D
[16:46] <tbsf> I'm getting this for grub-install: "grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory."
[16:46] <TJ-> tbsf: my fingers seem to have developed dyslexia in recent months and despite rechecking what I type things escape me
[16:47] <TJ-> tbsf: oh... you need to do "mount -a" now fstab is correct to ensure the EFI-SP is mounted to /boot/efi/
[16:47] <tbsf> kewl, it worked that time
[16:48] <tbsf> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T2dMFQtxHj/
[16:48] <TJ-> tbsf: lets check the efibootmgr report to be sure the firmware now knows of this alternate install... there's one issue remaining... there'll likely be two entries both named "ubuntu"
[16:49] <TJ-> tbsf: or maybe not, that's nice :)  Is "5561cc7e-68c1-41b1-9843-c2d95997ca5f" the PARTUUID of /dev/nvme0n1p2 ?
[16:50] <TJ-> tbsf: use "blkid /dev/nvme0n1p2" to check
[16:50] <opios> apt-get keep saying that there is "1 not fully installed or removed." how can i get ride of this
[16:52] <Mathisen> opios, sudo apt autoremove or sudo apt --fix-broken install
[16:53] <opios> Mathisen, the reason of the broken install is that i need libc 2.5 on ubuntu 16.04
[16:53] <opios> which apparently doest support higher than 2.23
[16:53] <vadique> hi, where is Vuze in ubuntu?
[16:53] <tbsf> TJ-: yeah, that's the partuuid
[16:53] <vadique> client for bit torrent protocol
[16:54] <Mathisen> opios, upgrading libc will not be an easy task. just change version to something new
[16:54] <Mathisen> of ubuntu that is
[16:54] <luna> vadique: https://snapcraft.io/vuze-vs
[16:54] <TJ-> tbsf: right, in theory it should boot to the SSD next time. I'm wondering if, as a precaution, we should add an additional UEFI menu entry for the HDD install in case the SSD won't boot, since there is no reference to the HDD install in UEFI now
[16:55] <TJ-> tbsf: you can exit that chroot now with "umount /boot/efi; exit"
[16:55] <opios> Mathisen, i want to do release upgrade! but before i need to install all the upgrades, and one of the things that need to upgraded is gitlab that for the newer version it does need libc 2.5
[16:55] <vadique> luna, nice, but I don't see it in apt-cache and "ubuntu software"
[16:56] <tbsf> TJ-: I'll try it out and see what happens
[16:56] <TJ-> tbsf: and then "for n in etc/resolv.conf dev sys proc; do sudo umount -R /target/$n; done"
[16:56] <TJ-> tbsf: and finally "sudo umount /target"
[16:57] <Mathisen> opios, remove gitlab during relase uprade then if posible and just save the repos you have there
[16:57] <tbsf> I'm getting target is busy for proc, dev, and sys
[16:57] <opios> Mathisen, i dont have backup :(
[16:57] <opios> i need to save this
[16:57] <Mathisen> opios, again trying to upgrade libc on your own will be hell on earth belive me :)
[16:57] <tbsf> TJ-: should I try a reboot?
[16:57] <opios>  /opt/gitlab/embedded/bin/ruby: error while loading shared libraries: libruby.so.2.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:57] <opios> Mathisen, what solution do you propsoe?
[16:58] <TJ-> tbsf: In theory it should work but I don't want to leave you with no bootable Ubuntu! if you have a liveISO handy in case then I guess you're prepared :)
[16:58] <Mathisen> opios, take backup of git repo remove and ugprade
[16:58] <TJ-> tbsf: 'target is busy' shouldn't happen if you've exited the chroot
[16:59] <opios> Mathisen, everything in gitlab is done with ruby, and now i have a broken ruby
[17:01] <Mathisen> opios, im no expert on gitlab so cant say what to do there. ask them. or maybe someone else in here got another sugestion for you
[17:04] <TJ-> opios: it looks to me like you've installed a 3rd party application (gitlab ?) that requires a more recent version of the GNU libc standard library than that Ubuntu release uses. The only solution there is downgrade or remove/backup gitlab or in some other way disable it from being considered by do-release-upgrade
[17:06] <Mattgphoto> Did anyone have any tips on the question I mentioned earlier?
[17:06] <tbsf> so, that didn't work
[17:06] <tbsf> TJ-: I think my grub config is still incorrect
[17:08] <TJ-> tbsf: oh! did we forget the "update-grub" step!? Oh %)$^(^(%&!
[17:09] <TJ-> tbsf: are you using the LiveISO right now?
[17:10] <tbsf> No, I'm on the hdd
[17:10] <tbsf> I just ran update-grub and the UUIDs look correct now
[17:10] <tbsf> Will try rebooting again
[17:13] <Aleric> How can I get the window class of some open window, for window matching.
[17:13] <tbsf> TJ-: success!
[17:13] <tbsf> TJ-: Crazy fast ubuntu now :)
[17:14] <tbsf> TJ-: thank you so much
[17:14] <TJ-> tbsf: you're welcome; shame it took us so long
[17:15] <Mathisen> Aleric, xprop
[17:21] <strive> tbsf: Wooot!
[17:29] <rfm> Aleric, run "xprop" in a shell window, click on the window you want the class of, look for the "WM_CLASS" property
[17:29] <vadique> 'unable to install vuze-vs'
[17:30] <vadique> why? https://imgur.com/XDpbRQF how to see the reason?
[17:31] <vadique> cannot perform ... is not exapndable
[17:31] <Kon-> Start gnome-software in the terminal and try again
[17:32] <Kon-> Sorry, ubuntu-software
[17:33] <TJ-> !info vuze-vs
[17:34] <TJ-> vadique: maybe that is a snap not a debian package
[17:36] <vadique> I need bit torrent client which wouldn't be traffic-shaped by provider
[17:37] <vadique> I dunno how provider differs bt traffic from others, but torrenting is almost impossible here
[17:40] <EoflaOE> vadique: Can you try to pastebin the output of "sudo snap install vuze-vs?" Or did it not exist in snap?
[17:45] <vadique> EoflaOE, it downloades
[17:45] <EoflaOE> vadique: Tell me if it installed successfully.
[17:54] <Siamaster> I've bought a new screen and it causes me problems at boot
[17:55] <Siamaster> when computer starts, it shows bios/computer info but when I want to log in to ubuntu I get to a black screen with a cursor
[17:55] <Siamaster> if I reconnect the screen, I can then log in
[17:56] <Siamaster> If my old screen is connected too, it will just show on the old screen
[17:56] <Siamaster> it's like it's still looking for the old screen and that's what causes me problems
[17:56] <Siamaster> I tried to reinstall ubuntu using my new screen but after everything loads, I have no screen on my new monitor
[17:57] <Siamaster> I can probably reinstall ubuntu using my old screen but I'm really just trying to solve this monitor issue at startup
[17:57] <Siamaster> It's really weird, Why would I need to reconnect in order to make the image appear
[17:58] <Siamaster> is there a cache in bios/ubuntu that I can clear?
[18:14] <vadique> EoflaOE, well, it is
[18:24] <EoflaOE> vadique: Did it install successfully?
[18:28] <Siamaster> I have bought a new monitor and it's giving me trouble
[18:29] <Siamaster> No matter what I do, I can't make my computer boot with this display
[18:30] <Siamaster> If only this new screen is connected, I will see bios / computer info at startup until I need to login to ubuntu. Then screen is blank and I need to reconnect the HDMI cable to make it appear
[18:30] <Siamaster> if it's connected together with my old screen, all startup info is displayed on the old screen
[18:30] <Siamaster> also, I cannot enter ubuntu installation at startup with this new screen, I need to connect my old screen to be able to reinstall ubuntu
[18:31] <Siamaster> I've tried finding options for display in BIOS, I only have three options, PCI, PEG and PEG1
[18:31] <Siamaster> none of them helps
[18:31] <Siamaster> I've tried setting this new screen as primary screen in both ubuntu and NVIDIA settings
[18:32] <Siamaster> I'm out of clues and ideas
[18:33] <TJ-> Siamaster: the PC's firmware gives you control/visibilty of PEG/PEG1 devices ?
[18:35] <Siamaster> I can choose one of them for boot, I don't know what it is
[18:36] <TJ-> Siamaster: It is ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) PCI Express Graphics
[18:37] <TJ-> Siamaster: as it is ACPI I suspect you have an issue with the PC's firmware not correctly enabling those devices when Linux is the OS. Most likely due to the PCs firmware only written to work correctly with MS Windows OS
[18:37] <TJ-> Siamaster: there's a possible workaround for the Linux OS here: https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[18:50] <elias_a> Has someone running 18.04.2 in Lenovo Thinkpad X201 have the same problem as I do after the latest updates: both fingerprint reader LEDs stay on all the time.
[18:52] <Mattgphoto> Hello all, I've got a question... my console on Ubuntu Server 18.04 fills up easily enough with messages like this:    [296.451090] CIFS VFS: Free previous auth_key.response = 00000000fece7265
[18:55] <compdoc> Mattgphoto, have you added entries to /etc/fstab?
[18:55] <Mattgphoto> Yep!
[18:55] <Mattgphoto> My /etc/fstab looks like this:
[18:56] <compdoc> dont paste it here
[18:56] <Mattgphoto> oop sorry
[18:56] <compdoc> use pastebin.com
[18:56] <Mattgphoto> yep
[18:57] <Mattgphoto> https://pastebin.com/62CBGZ4b
[18:59] <compdoc> looks ok to me, but I dont mount things in fstab because its always a problem. anyway, your error seems related to that
[18:59] <Mattgphoto> Huh. So.... how do you mount things then?
[19:00] <compdoc> I mean I dont mount network shares there.
[19:00] <compdoc> I dont know the best way
[19:00] <Mattgphoto> Ah. So you don't mount network shares?
[19:00] <ioria> Mattgphoto, add vers=3.0
[19:01] <Mattgphoto> It's in there already ioria
[19:02] <ioria> Mattgphoto, ah, ok... then change position : put it after cifs
[19:02] <Mattgphoto> okie doke
[19:04] <Mattgphoto> Changed, and sudo mount -a'd. Will wait and see if that fixes it
[19:05] <Mattgphoto> Thank you ioria
[19:05] <ioria> Mattgphoto, no prob
[19:30] <vy> Hey! In Xubuntu 18.04.2 LTS, after connecting to and disconnecting from a Bluetooth speaker, the laptop speaker stops working. Any tips on how to solve/diagnose the problem?
[19:36] <Jake-abc> Good day, all!
[19:55] <gaz_> Hey Guys! I've got a question about using PPAs. Basically I am trying to install dsncrypt-proxy (https://launchpad.net/~shevchuk/+archive/ubuntu/dnscrypt-proxy) from the ppa (not the standard repos). After I run add-apt-repository ... & apt-get update I'm still not able to install dnscrypt-proxy from the launchpad PPA. Anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? https://pastebin.com/1g1sFjQu
[20:00] <stoiss> gaz_,  could be that the version of the program isnt supporting your ubuntu version
[20:00] <Mathisen> gaz_, can you just say what error you get when you try to do the install
[20:00] <TJ-> gaz_: Because your install is arch==arm64 and the PPAs don't build arm64 packages
[20:01] <gaz_> Ah that makes sense
[20:01] <gaz_> I'm running an ARM system
[20:01] <gaz_> Although doesn't this PPA have ARM support?
[20:02] <gaz_> http://ppa.launchpad.net/shevchuk/dnscrypt-proxy/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/
[20:02] <gaz_> I see an arm64 dir
[20:03] <gaz_> and I am running 18.04.2 LTS bionic
[20:04] <gaz_> Mathisen: There is no error when I try to install. Instead apt-get install will install the old version of dnscrypt-proxy (not the latest version in the PPAs)
[20:04] <gaz_> Since the package is in the normal Ubuntu repos
[20:05] <OerHeks> gaz_, ask the maintainer to build your Arm version?
[20:05] <waheedi> i just managed to fire up the wireless network on my arm64 device, but when I reboot it won't auto connect, I have to do ifdown wlan0 then connect using wpa_supplicant
[20:06] <TJ-> gaz_: there is no arm64 build for 18.04 Bionic
[20:06] <waheedi> TJ-: there is
[20:06] <gaz_> http://ppa.launchpad.net/shevchuk/dnscrypt-proxy/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/binary-arm64/
[20:06] <gaz_> Isn't that it?
[20:06] <TJ-> gaz_: https://launchpad.net/~shevchuk/+archive/ubuntu/dnscrypt-proxy/+sourcepub/10220554/+listing-archive-extra
[20:07] <TJ-> gaz_:  that's from expanding the bionic aouexw package tree on https://launchpad.net/~shevchuk/+archive/ubuntu/dnscrypt-proxy/+packages
[20:08] <TJ-> hmmm, not sure where aouexw came from!
[20:08] <waheedi> https://github.com/jedisct1/dnscrypt-proxy/releases/tag/2.0.25
[20:08] <waheedi> gaz_:  ^
[20:09] <gaz_> TJ-: Doesn't this mean that there is a 18.04 build for ARM in the ppa? http://ppa.launchpad.net/shevchuk/dnscrypt-proxy/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/binary-arm64/Release
[20:10] <gaz_> I see that in the link you sent in the "Builds" section there is only arm64/i386
[20:10] <waheedi> u mean amd
[20:10] <OerHeks> if there was, you could install 2.0.25
[20:11] <TJ-> precisely, amd64/i386, no arm64
[20:11] <gaz_> Ah I see
[20:11] <rwp> gaz_ Note that the Packages files in that release are empty.
[20:11] <rwp> At http://ppa.launchpad.net/shevchuk/dnscrypt-proxy/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/binary-arm64/
[20:11] <gaz_> Yeah I just pulled them down and saw that they were empty
[20:12] <gaz_> That explains it
[20:12] <gaz_> Thanks for all the help guys!
[20:12] <gaz_> I'll build from source, I was just hoping to let apt manage the pkg, but its not too big of a deal
[20:12] <TJ-> gaz_: you could ask the PPA owner to enable arm64, link them to https://dev.launchpad.net/CommunityARMBuilds
[20:13] <gaz_> I'll do that TJ-
[20:13] <gaz_> Espically since there are already arm builds upsteam
[20:13] <gaz_> especially*
[20:52] <fromBeyond> Hi. Any advice on how i can update tbb from 2017, to 2019 on Ubuntu 18.04? The package manager only has the 2017 version.
[20:53] <TJ-> !info tbb bionic
[20:54] <fromBeyond> !info libtbb-dev bionic
[20:54] <fromBeyond> TJ-: sorry, i didnt use the full name
[20:55] <fromBeyond> !info libtbb-dev eoan
[20:56] <fromBeyond> I see. I should just update my distro than. Still, for other uses, is there a way i could still install the package?
[20:57] <TJ-> fromBeyond: at first glance the 19.10 Eoan package has dependencies that should be satisfied by an 18.04 system, and that has version 2019~U8-1
[20:57] <TJ-> !info libtbb2 eoan
[20:58] <TJ-> fromBeyond: see https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/libtbb2
[20:58] <fromBeyond> How does one go about installing a package that is in the "package manager" of a newer distro? I download .deb and install from command line?
[20:59] <TJ-> fromBeyond: the latter, yes. The page I linked you to has the download links to .deb files, after download use "sudo dpkg -i path/to/file.deb" to (attempt to) install
[21:00] <fromBeyond> Thank you TJ- . I still opted to upgrade my distro this time, but I did learn something new i will use in the future
[21:00] <fromBeyond> thanks again
[21:12] <B|ack0p> hi.
[21:12] <B|ack0p> i am getting a popup about error reporting but it doesnt show error details.
[21:12] <B|ack0p> whenever i login to ubuntu it keeps showing since 2 days
[21:12] <B|ack0p> where can i get info about that error?
[21:20] <B|ack0p> i found this in var/log/syslog: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qJhg5VknXH/
[21:28] <waheedi> trying to setup bluetooth on my pi arm64
[21:29] <waheedi> getting Reading hci0 info failed with status 0x11 using btmgmt
[21:31] <jeremy31> waheedi: Know who made the bluetooth chipset?
[21:36] <waheedi> yes jeremy31
[21:37] <jeremy31> waheedi: Broadcom?
[21:38] <waheedi> yes
[21:38] <waheedi> brcmfmac43455
[21:38] <waheedi> the wireless is working now, it was not working :)
[21:38] <jeremy31> waheedi: You might have to do some searching to find the firmware file you need, I would guess it is SDIO
[21:39] <waheedi> i would sacrifice the bluetooth for wireless
[21:39] <waheedi> bluetooth             659456  14 btsdio,bnep,bcm203x
[21:40] <jeremy31> waheedi: did you need a file from /sys/firmware/ to make the wifi work
[21:40] <waheedi> yes jeremy31
[21:40] <waheedi> not sys/firmware though
[21:41] <jeremy31> waheedi: Check in terminal> dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm'
[21:42] <waheedi> jeremy31: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h2wH8ZgsFX/
[21:43] <jeremy31> waheedi: strange that it isn't looking for firmware, a newer kernel might be needed
[21:47] <TJ-> waheedi: is it a Pi 4 ?
[22:24] <waheedi> jeremy31: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is up to date
[22:25] <waheedi> maybe I need to add the correct ppa
[22:26] <waheedi> I'm using this one https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/linux-image-4.15.0-1031-raspi2
[22:30] <corsair> where the hell is glibc 2.23-0ubuntu5
[22:30] <corsair> I want the built binaries with debug symbols
[22:32] <hggdh> corsair: this would have been the glibc for xenial, and it is obsolete. Current is 2.23-0ubuntu11
[22:34] <corsair> shouldn't it be at the package website?
[22:34] <corsair> also, why is this search engine totally broken:
[22:34] <corsair> https://packages.ubuntu.com/
[22:34] <corsair> Search the contents of packages
[22:34] <corsair> This search engine allows you to search the contents of Ubuntu distributions for any files (or just parts of file names) that are part of packages. You can also get a full list of files in a given package.
[22:35] <corsair> glibc_2.23 -> yields no results
[22:35] <corsair> >_>
[22:35] <waheedi> this seems to be the newest version 4.15.0-1041.44
[22:35] <corsair> LOL, I search for glibc -> No results...
[22:38] <corsair> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/allpackages
[22:38] <corsair> here I can only find (2.23-0ubuntu5)
[22:38] <corsair> I am searching for that specific version
[22:39] <hggdh> you probably want libc6
[22:39] <thoros_> Is anyone having issues with the new Spotify update 1.1.1.10? Mine keeps crashing on launch.
[22:40] <thoros_> Until I reinstall it, then it works, but if I restart my computer I have to remove it again.
[22:40] <corsair> hggdh: wtf?
[22:40] <hggdh> corsair: firs of all, mind your language, please
[22:41] <corsair> hggdh: omg, ok
[22:41]  * Platonides thinks corsair is quite right on his reaction
[22:41] <hggdh> second, libc6 and libc6-dbg seem to be what you want
[22:41] <thoros_> "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" is the error I get in Terminal
[22:42] <corsair> hggdh: where do I download them?
[22:42] <Platonides> thoros_: you could try running it under gdb
[22:42] <thoros_> I'm a noob to Linux, so I don't have anything really mastered yet. How do I do that?
[22:42] <Platonides> that should be able to at least provide a backtrace
[22:42] <Platonides> gdb programname
[22:42] <Platonides> from the terminal
[22:42] <thoros_> oh okay I'll try that.
[22:42] <hggdh> corsair: apt install libc6-dbg should do it, since libc6 should be already installed
[22:43] <thoros_> Apparently I don't have gdb installed yet. One moment.
[22:43] <corsair> hggdh: wtf, no
[22:43] <corsair> I want to download one package containing the binaries there with debug symbols enabled
[22:43] <hggdh> corsair: now, if you are indeed at 2.23-0ubuntu5, you are downlevel (and, again, probably on xenial)
[22:44] <thoros_> Platonides: Reading symbols from spotify...
[22:44] <thoros_> (No debugging symbols found in spotify)
[22:44] <hggdh> corsair: you may want one single package with code & symbols. But they do not exist.
[22:44] <thoros_> Oh wait
[22:44] <thoros_> I forgot it's called spotify-client
[22:45] <corsair> hggdh: they should.
[22:45] <hggdh> corsair: and, second time, please mind your language
[22:45] <Platonides> thoros_: after loading everything it will show a command line console
[22:45] <thoros_> Planonies: Nevermind I was doing it right as Spotify is the name of the client, seems like gdb doesn't know anything about it.
[22:45] <Platonides> just type "run"
[22:45] <thoros_> OH!
[22:45] <Platonides> and the program will start
[22:46] <Platonides> (well, it would if it doesn't crash)
[22:46] <thoros_> Thanks, that worked, but doing that Spotify actually started properly...
[22:46] <corsair> hggdh: what now?
[22:46] <Platonides> thoros_: that's funny
[22:46] <thoros_> Well it started anyway, but crashed and I had to force quit it.
[22:47] <thoros_> I did get quite a bit of output from gdb
[22:47] <thoros_> "Thread 26 "Curl Thread" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[22:47] <thoros_> [Switching to Thread 0x7fff8bfff700 (LWP 5290)]
[22:47] <thoros_> 0x00007ffff7e7bce5 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
[22:47] <thoros_> "
[22:48] <hggdh> corsair: I am sorry, what 'what now'?
[22:48] <corsair> hggdh: what was the issue with my language
[22:48] <Platonides> that points out that it crashes while doing something related to https request
[22:48] <hggdh> swearing, *even* when abbreviated, is not welcome here
[22:49] <thoros_> Plantonides: No other programs seem to be having an issue and Spotify's web player is working fine. Is this something I'd have to wait on the Spotify team to fix?
[22:50] <Platonides> they are probably the only ones able to fix it
[22:50] <Platonides> in fact, they are probably doing something wrong themselves
[22:50] <Platonides> maybe you can report it to spotify somehow?
[22:50] <Platonides> through a support email address, perhaps?
[22:50] <thoros_> Plantonides: Only sad thing is my keyboard buttons don't work on the web player. :(
[22:51] <thoros_> I don't think Spotify 'officially' supports Linux. They just always say their Linux client is a "labor of love by our engineers who want to listen to Spotify on their development machines."
[22:51] <corsair> hggdh: I found what I needed
[22:53] <ZaZaGX> oh i use spotify on ubuntu
[22:53] <ZaZaGX>  i used snap to install it
[22:54] <thoros_> Platonides: I think the only difference between just running Spotify and running it with gdb is gdb is preventing it from closing when it crashes. That's why I thought it was running. When I run it without gdb it starts, but crashes immediately.
[22:54] <oceanquake> corsair: how did you finally get the packages?
[22:54] <thoros_> ZaZaGX: Is snap like "apt install spotify-client" That's what I used.
[22:55] <ZaZaGX> oh, i used sudo snap install spotify
[22:55] <thoros_> I can try that.
[22:55] <corsair> oceanquake: launchpad.net
[22:55] <ZaZaGX> it works great
[22:55] <thoros_> Did you do the recent update?
[22:56] <thoros_> I don't have a snap command, maybe because I'm using Pop!_OS? Instead of Ubuntu?
[22:57] <ZaZaGX> not sure. i used to use Pop OS. i talked to the system76 tech. they said it should be the same
[22:57] <ZaZaGX> what do you mean by recent update?
[22:57] <ZaZaGX> i used to have a system76 laptop
[22:58] <plongshot> What can a systemd .service file contain and how is it constructed / formatted  I'm looking at creating a timer in systemd and my need is to run a couple regular bash commands. thanks
[22:58] <thoros_> For me Spotify had an update two or three days ago.
[22:58] <OerHeks> thoros_, install ubuntu to get support here
[22:58] <ZaZaGX> oh okay. i'm not sure
[22:59] <ZaZaGX> thoros_, if you want Pop OS support. you would have to call system76 on the weekdays
[22:59] <thoros_> OerHeks: I've always been told Pop!_OS is based on Ubuntu and they're very similar. I'll have to figure it out some other way. Thanks
[23:00] <OerHeks> https://www.ubuntudoc.com/how-to-create-new-service-with-systemd/ a good start
[23:01] <OerHeks> https://www.shellhacks.com/systemd-service-file-example/  or just the plain manpage http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man5/systemd.service.5.html
[23:02] <plongshot> OerHeks: oh that looks like a good one.
[23:02] <plongshot> ok that's what i was missing after the simple introductions
[23:03] <plongshot> manpages sure are diffucult to digest but they're a staple. what can you do?
[23:03] <plongshot> :)
[23:04] <plongshot> OerHeks: How do you find this stuff?
[23:04] <OerHeks> hexchat generates a url grab list ;-)
[23:08] <plongshot> I'm having touble understanding all the files involved in running a systemd timer that runs a script.  In one place they descibe a .timer ifle in conjunction with a .service file (but no mention of running any script). In another place they describe using a .servicxe file the points to a script you want to run (does not include a timer). So  does this mean I need a totatl of 3 diles to do what I'm after?  A .timer file, a .service
[23:08] <plongshot> file, and my script ??
[23:10] <plongshot> the first articles I read had the one combination but the articles I was just looking at have the other combination
[23:11] <plongshot> I understand the commands systemd enab.e | disable | start | stop   <-- ok  but the dependencies?
[23:11] <cyclick> I'm trying to list one random file per subfolder recursively, but when I run this command: "find -type d -exec ls {}/*.jpg \; |sort -R| egrep '2019' | tail -n 1", I get the following error: "ls: cannot access './dir/*.jpg': No such file or directory"  any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[23:15] <dbugger> Guys, I have a problem. I had to reboot my system, because it got frozen. Now I have in one of my monitors a frozen image of a grey background and a cursor (the other monitor works fine)
[23:15] <dbugger> What could it be?
[23:17] <Bashing-om> cyclick: Is "/dir/*.jpg" in your current directory ? Else you must tell find where to look.
[23:17] <oceanquake> cyclick: if you ask ls to list non-existent entries, it gives an error
[23:18] <cyclick> Bashing-om: if I manually type "ls ./dir/*.jpg", it works as expected
[23:19] <rfm> cyclick, -exec just execs ls, it doesn't glob (to expand the * ).  maybe "-exec sh -c ls {/*.jpg\;" would get you what you are expecting
[23:19] <oceanquake> cyclick: expansion of the * is done by the shell, the exec won't do it.
[23:20] <plongshot> So I have to have a  .timer file point to a .service file (with the same name).. then have that .service file point to the script I want to execute?
[23:22] <HotSwap> hey, does anyone know how to switch from the intel driver to the modesetting driver?  I've got a new kaby lake r laptop, and read about the potential benefits.  But no matter what i do, inxi -G reports driver: i915.  I've removed xserver-xorg-video-intel*, I've added i915 to the module blacklist and confirmed it isn't loaded.  Still inxi (both repo ver and latest git) reports i915.  I'm starting to question inxi, but forum posts seem to
[23:22] <HotSwap> suggest it will report modesetting once the driver has been changed
[23:23] <cyclick> rfm: sh -c doesn't appear to work (the CPU goes to 100%)
[23:23] <cyclick> oceanquake: thanks, will try to find a different way
[23:23] <plongshot> It sounds like the foundation is a .service file along with whetever it is to execute (points to). That might be a program like apache2 or mysql or a script that you write. Then it sounds like you can add a kind of garnishment to it (the .timer) to execute it on a timer.  Is theis right?
[23:24] <plongshot> I'm finding part of the information in one place and part in the other and want to be suere I'm not making a mistake that will cost me time and frustrration
[23:25] <plongshot> If a + b and b + c then a + c  right?
[23:25] <plongshot> idk
[23:25] <oceanquake> cyclick: why not just use find to find files matching *.jpg?  find will let you supply that as a glob as long as you quote appropriately in the shell, e.g. find -iname \*.jpg .
[23:25] <OerHeks> plongshot, i think you want systemd timers https://www.maketecheasier.com/use-systemd-timers-as-cron-replacement/
[23:27] <plongshot> OerHeks: my friend that's th first article I looked at. It's the same situation though (it seems as if) the informaiton is split across various articles / places. It's ok man. I apprecaite it. I'l maybe end up with some tiral and error and  try not to break anything too bad.  :p
[23:28] <plongshot> So the links you gave me were showing one part and the link just now (this last one) shows another part  -- I think (and that's where my confidence wanes)
[23:29] <plongshot> It sounds like the timer starts the service which in turn starts the script but I have no desire to spend the next few days learning the hard way
[23:29] <plongshot> :)
[23:29] <cyclick> oceanquake: let say I have 100 sub directories, and some are 3 level deep, and I need to get only one file for all of these directories
[23:30] <OerHeks> and the arch wiki is also a lot of help
[23:31] <plongshot> yes
[23:31] <plongshot> OerHeks: :)
[23:31] <plongshot> thx
[23:32] <oceanquake> cyclick: if it were me, I would write a quick script in a real language, not chain together a bunch of commands via shell
[23:33] <plongshot> The most basic (functional) shell script is a file ending in .sh, with executable perms, and contians a hasbang   --right?
[23:33] <plongshot> I've had to read so many places allover idk if I recall thet right or not
[23:38] <cyclick> oceanquake: ayecee from #linux found a solution: find . -type d -exec sh -c 'find {} -maxdepth 1 -type f -name \*.jpg | sort -R | head -1' \;
[23:39] <Jan-> hihi
[23:39] <Jan-> hihi
[23:39] <Jan-> If I type the following, what stop/parity/etc configuration is it likely to use? echo -ne '\xf3\xf4\xf5\xf6\xf7' > /dev/ttyUSB0
[23:39] <oceanquake> cyclick: this will only go into the first tier of subdirs,  Is that what you want?
[23:41] <cyclick> oceanquake: I probably will remove the -maxdepth 1
[23:43] <oceanquake> cyclick: then the only thing the first find is buying you is that it executes the rest in the subdirs of the invocation dir.
[23:46] <tds> Jan-: `stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0` should tell you
[23:48] <Jan-> people keep saying that, but all that does is tell you the bitrate and a couple of flag status
[23:48] <Jan-> speed 115200 baud; line = 0; -brkint -imaxbel
[23:50] <deltab> without -a it only shows the flags that are changed from the default
[23:51] <Jan-> er
[23:51] <Jan-> yikes that's a lot
[23:51] <plongshot> Isn't there a default place for user created scripts?
[23:52] <deltab> so 8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit
[23:52] <plongshot> A system default directory intended for user created scripts ( I mean )
[23:52] <deltab> plongshot: /usr/local/bin
[23:52] <Jan-> deltab: are we sure that is always the default
[23:52] <Jan-> I mean I'm pretty sure that it would be more broken than it is if I had that wron
[23:53] <plongshot> deltab: thx I was wondering about that
[23:53] <deltab> Jan-: I suggest you use tio and press control-t c to show the configuration: it's much more readable
[23:54] <plongshot> deltab: I see there is nothing in the directory but still it is listed in echo $PATH  (this is encouraging!)
[23:54] <Jan-> command tio not found
[23:55] <deltab> sudo apt install tio
[23:55] <Jan-> eh lets just assume it's right for now
[23:56] <Jan-> I don't want to be sucked into another multi hour pain fest with apt