| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 03:55 |
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| EoflaOE | Hello lotuspsychje | 07:22 |
| luna | morning | 07:24 |
| EoflaOE | good morning | 07:25 |
| EoflaOE | how are you? | 07:27 |
| luna | alright | 07:29 |
| EoflaOE | .I am doing fine | 07:31 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 11:01 |
| EoflaOE | hi BluesKaj | 11:01 |
| BluesKaj | hi EoflaOE | 11:02 |
| EoflaOE | How was your day? | 11:02 |
| BluesKaj | having morning coffee atm, how about you? | 11:04 |
| EoflaOE | I am doing fine | 11:04 |
| lotuspsychje | hey EoflaOE | 11:08 |
| EoflaOE | Hello lotuspsychje | 11:08 |
| lotuspsychje | EoflaOE: hows your UWN journey? | 11:09 |
| EoflaOE | lotuspsychje: Good | 11:09 |
| EoflaOE | How about you? | 11:09 |
| lotuspsychje | all good on this side tnx | 11:09 |
| EoflaOE | You're welcome. Thanks | 11:10 |
| BluesKaj | think I'll retire my rpi3, don't feel like mucking about with it atm | 11:18 |
| lotuspsychje | you would love a nuc BluesKaj | 11:18 |
| EoflaOE | BluesKaj: what is rpi3? | 11:19 |
| BluesKaj | EoflaOE, https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b/ | 11:19 |
| EoflaOE | BluesKaj: Looking for that. | 11:20 |
| EoflaOE | You reminded me. I almost forgot about rpi. | 11:21 |
| BluesKaj | it's only weakness is the microsd cards which don't last very long due to the many read/writes it has to handle | 11:22 |
| EoflaOE | BluesKaj: OK. | 11:23 |
| BluesKaj | I had mine booting from the sdcard with the / files on a hdd, but after the last upgrade it no longer boots | 11:23 |
| BluesKaj | and I seldom use it anymore so I'll set it asibe for now | 11:25 |
| BluesKaj | aside | 11:25 |
| EoflaOE | BluesKaj: OK. I had one of my HDDs failed in 2018 because of 5 years. | 11:25 |
| EoflaOE | On my old PC | 11:25 |
| BluesKaj | the hdd here is ok , already checked it out | 11:26 |
| EoflaOE | Nice. Now, I have 1 spare HDD running on my old PC with Lubuntu 19.10, and on my new PC, I am using VBox to run Ubuntu 19.10. | 11:27 |
| BluesKaj | running Kubuntu 19.10 here on this pc | 11:29 |
| BluesKaj | I don't bother with VMs | 11:29 |
| EoflaOE | Very awesome. | 11:29 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, been a Kubuntu tester for the last 10yrs or so | 11:30 |
| EoflaOE | Nice. Since what Kubuntu version? | 11:31 |
| BluesKaj | since KDE4, but I used Kubuntu for 3 or 4 yrs previous to that | 11:32 |
| BluesKaj | think KDE4 was released in 2008 | 11:33 |
| EoflaOE | Nice. I discovered Ubuntu in 2012 when I was 8, and actually used it in 2016. | 11:34 |
| BluesKaj | neat | 11:35 |
| EoflaOE | Thanks. I also joined Launchpad and #ubuntu in that usage year. | 11:35 |
| BluesKaj | not many bugs to report to launchpad on 19.10, it's very stable for dev OS | 11:39 |
| EoflaOE | Yes. It just got more stable. When you were testing Kubuntu, are you reporting bugs? | 11:40 |
| BluesKaj | sometimes, but usually one of the devs discovers them before I do | 11:41 |
| EoflaOE | Nice. | 11:42 |
| EoflaOE | BluesKaj: Do you know about irclogs.ubuntu.com? | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj | yes, but my client keeps channel logs right in my home dir | 11:49 |
| EoflaOE | My clients that I use keep logs, too. | 11:50 |
| BluesKaj | irc client that is, Konversation | 11:51 |
| EoflaOE | OK. I use the following clients: IRC for Android, mIRC (new PC, Windows), HexChat (old PC) | 11:52 |
| luna | i always use irssi | 11:53 |
| EoflaOE | luna: Nice, so irssi runs on the console. It is text-based. I have heard about it before, but used it for a few. | 11:54 |
| BluesKaj | hey luna, irssi is handy in emergencies. if I can't get to the desktop, but I haven't needed it in yrs | 11:55 |
| jeremy31 | I use irccloud | 11:56 |
| Talikka | I use irssi and ircclud free. I don't know which one is better. I am a traditionalist. | 13:08 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic bionic | 13:40 |
| ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.55.57 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB | 13:40 |
| lotuspsychje | tomreyn: what does this mean? Started Forward Password Requests to Plymouth Directory Watch. | 17:04 |
| TJ- | lotuspsychje: it's a service | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | never noticed that before | 17:05 |
| lotuspsychje | Started Show Plymouth Boot Screen. this yes | 17:05 |
| TJ- | lotuspsychje: see "systemctl cat systemd-ask-password-plymouth.path" | 17:06 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx | 17:06 |
| lotuspsychje | all kinds od weird things in his dmesg omg | 17:08 |
| lotuspsychje | smells like a test pc, randomly install all kinds of stuff mixed | 17:12 |
| lotuspsychje | apache, sql, clamav, bumblebee lol | 17:15 |
| tomreyn | lotuspsychje: sorry, i missed your question here | 17:31 |
| lotuspsychje | no sweat tomreyn | 17:31 |
| lotuspsychje | i was thinking along with that dmesg | 17:31 |
| tomreyn | 31°C here, so yes, there's sweat ;) | 17:31 |
| lotuspsychje | loll | 17:31 |
| tomreyn | duo_ubuntu could certainly benefit from a more stretegic approach. | 17:32 |
| lotuspsychje | sounds like the nutty proffessor-dev installing tons of things at the time he thinks of it :p | 17:33 |
| lotuspsychje | then end up with a warzone pc | 17:33 |
| lotuspsychje | i also do that sometimes, but hey we try to solve bugs sometimes | 17:34 |
| tomreyn | it's ok to do this in a VM, but this is bare metal and seems to be his or her primary terminal | 17:36 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome fromBeyond | 18:08 |
| fromBeyond | hi lotuspsychje | 18:08 |
| lotuspsychje | fromBeyond: do you use gnome on 19.04? | 18:09 |
| fromBeyond | lotuspsychje: yes. When I work, I am using i3wm, so I can use my OS and an IDE (arange windows, with vim, debugger, etc.), but otherwise yes | 18:12 |
| lotuspsychje | fromBeyond: but your current ubuntu is an upgrade from 18.04 to 19.04 correct? | 18:13 |
| fromBeyond | lotuspsychje: yes correct. | 18:13 |
| fromBeyond | Perhaps i mispoke about gnome, because i am using gnome-terminal, and thought it implies "yes" | 18:14 |
| fromBeyond | (i am a long time user of ubuntu, but i am far from an expert on it) | 18:14 |
| lotuspsychje | fromBeyond: did you try a fresh install 19.04 to compare system with mac/win? | 18:14 |
| fromBeyond | lotuspsychje: The difference i mentioned before, was present also in 18.04. Meaning that on my ubuntu machine, the benchmark was running at roughly the same speed (8-10ms). When I updated to 19.04, i didn't do a clean install, I just upgraded. | 18:17 |
| fromBeyond | lotuspsychje: but on windows, the same benchmark runs at 18-20 ms | 18:17 |
| fromBeyond | mentioned benchmark is purely computational, with multithreading | 18:17 |
| lotuspsychje | fromBeyond: to upgrade like that its 18.04=>18.10=>19.04 | 18:18 |
| fromBeyond | lotuspsychje: I see. I did not know. I never upgraded before. I used 16 for a long time, than when i got a new machine i installed 18.04 | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | fromBeyond: can you tell us more of your system and its purpose? did you use gnome on 18.04 or i3 too? | 18:20 |
| fromBeyond | lotuspsychje: I used i3 when working, and gnome otherwise | 18:21 |
| TJ- | fromBeyond as I said earlier *profile* the program on those systems, that'll show you where time is taken | 18:21 |
| fromBeyond | my system is a dell xps 15. | 18:21 |
| fromBeyond | TJ-: Yes, I arranged to get the profiles from windows in this time | 18:22 |
| TJ- | fromBeyond: it could be due to the kernel's pre-empt/scheduling configuration, for example | 18:22 |
| fromBeyond | (we all have same machines, but others run windows) | 18:22 |
| fromBeyond | yes, i see | 18:22 |
| TJ- | There's no point spending time guessing at random; collect data, analyse it | 18:23 |
| fromBeyond | yes | 18:23 |
| fromBeyond | all benchmarks i have ever ran from our codebase, always work quite faster on my ubuntu machine, than on theirs | 18:24 |
| fromBeyond | recently i got the desire to understand why exactly this is happening | 18:24 |
| fromBeyond | i will collect the datafrom their machines | 18:24 |
| fromBeyond | lotuspsychje: my machine is a dell cps 15. It has intel i7. I write c++ code, for real time mesh processing. | 18:25 |
| fromBeyond | I deal with algorithms, so all my benchmarks are purely computational (no graphics). | 18:27 |
| fromBeyond | i tried the benchmark on gnome, and got the same result, just as fast as in i3. No significant difference | 18:27 |
| lotuspsychje | fromBeyond: you said you used 16.04 in the past? how was that compared as benchmark | 18:36 |
| fromBeyond | lotuspsychje: 16.04 was a bit slower on the benchmarks, but not significantly. But there is a difference. | 18:50 |
| fromBeyond | will produce a graph, i have old results saved | 18:50 |
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