[03:55] good morning to all [07:22] Hello lotuspsychje [07:24] morning [07:25] good morning [07:27] how are you? [07:29] alright [07:31] .I am doing fine [11:01] Howdy folks [11:01] hi BluesKaj [11:02] hi EoflaOE [11:02] How was your day? [11:04] having morning coffee atm, how about you? [11:04] I am doing fine [11:08] hey EoflaOE [11:08] Hello lotuspsychje [11:09] EoflaOE: hows your UWN journey? [11:09] lotuspsychje: Good [11:09] How about you? [11:09] all good on this side tnx [11:10] You're welcome. Thanks [11:18] think I'll retire my rpi3, don't feel like mucking about with it atm [11:18] you would love a nuc BluesKaj [11:19] BluesKaj: what is rpi3? [11:19] EoflaOE, https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b/ [11:20] BluesKaj: Looking for that. [11:21] You reminded me. I almost forgot about rpi. [11:22] it's only weakness is the microsd cards which don't last very long due to the many read/writes it has to handle [11:23] BluesKaj: OK. [11:23] I had mine booting from the sdcard with the / files on a hdd, but after the last upgrade it no longer boots [11:25] and I seldom use it anymore so I'll set it asibe for now [11:25] aside [11:25] BluesKaj: OK. I had one of my HDDs failed in 2018 because of 5 years. [11:25] On my old PC [11:26] the hdd here is ok , already checked it out [11:27] Nice. Now, I have 1 spare HDD running on my old PC with Lubuntu 19.10, and on my new PC, I am using VBox to run Ubuntu 19.10. [11:29] running Kubuntu 19.10 here on this pc [11:29] I don't bother with VMs [11:29] Very awesome. [11:30] yeah, been a Kubuntu tester for the last 10yrs or so [11:31] Nice. Since what Kubuntu version? [11:32] since KDE4, but I used Kubuntu for 3 or 4 yrs previous to that [11:33] think KDE4 was released in 2008 [11:34] Nice. I discovered Ubuntu in 2012 when I was 8, and actually used it in 2016. [11:35] neat [11:35] Thanks. I also joined Launchpad and #ubuntu in that usage year. [11:39] not many bugs to report to launchpad on 19.10, it's very stable for dev OS [11:40] Yes. It just got more stable. When you were testing Kubuntu, are you reporting bugs? [11:41] sometimes, but usually one of the devs discovers them before I do [11:42] Nice. [11:47] BluesKaj: Do you know about irclogs.ubuntu.com? [11:49] yes, but my client keeps channel logs right in my home dir [11:50] My clients that I use keep logs, too. [11:51] irc client that is, Konversation [11:52] OK. I use the following clients: IRC for Android, mIRC (new PC, Windows), HexChat (old PC) [11:53] i always use irssi [11:54] luna: Nice, so irssi runs on the console. It is text-based. I have heard about it before, but used it for a few. [11:55] hey luna, irssi is handy in emergencies. if I can't get to the desktop, but I haven't needed it in yrs [11:56] I use irccloud [13:08] I use irssi and ircclud free. I don't know which one is better. I am a traditionalist. [13:40] !info linux-image-generic bionic [13:40] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.55.57 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB [17:04] tomreyn: what does this mean? Started Forward Password Requests to Plymouth Directory Watch. [17:04] lotuspsychje: it's a service [17:05] never noticed that before [17:05] Started Show Plymouth Boot Screen. this yes [17:06] lotuspsychje: see "systemctl cat systemd-ask-password-plymouth.path" [17:06] tnx [17:08] all kinds od weird things in his dmesg omg [17:12] smells like a test pc, randomly install all kinds of stuff mixed [17:15] apache, sql, clamav, bumblebee lol [17:31] lotuspsychje: sorry, i missed your question here [17:31] no sweat tomreyn [17:31] i was thinking along with that dmesg [17:31] 31°C here, so yes, there's sweat ;) [17:31] loll [17:32] duo_ubuntu could certainly benefit from a more stretegic approach. [17:33] sounds like the nutty proffessor-dev installing tons of things at the time he thinks of it :p [17:33] then end up with a warzone pc [17:34] i also do that sometimes, but hey we try to solve bugs sometimes [17:36] it's ok to do this in a VM, but this is bare metal and seems to be his or her primary terminal [18:08] welcome fromBeyond [18:08] hi lotuspsychje [18:09] fromBeyond: do you use gnome on 19.04? [18:12] lotuspsychje: yes. When I work, I am using i3wm, so I can use my OS and an IDE (arange windows, with vim, debugger, etc.), but otherwise yes [18:13] fromBeyond: but your current ubuntu is an upgrade from 18.04 to 19.04 correct? [18:13] lotuspsychje: yes correct. [18:14] Perhaps i mispoke about gnome, because i am using gnome-terminal, and thought it implies "yes" [18:14] (i am a long time user of ubuntu, but i am far from an expert on it) [18:14] fromBeyond: did you try a fresh install 19.04 to compare system with mac/win? [18:17] lotuspsychje: The difference i mentioned before, was present also in 18.04. Meaning that on my ubuntu machine, the benchmark was running at roughly the same speed (8-10ms). When I updated to 19.04, i didn't do a clean install, I just upgraded. [18:17] lotuspsychje: but on windows, the same benchmark runs at 18-20 ms [18:17] mentioned benchmark is purely computational, with multithreading [18:18] fromBeyond: to upgrade like that its 18.04=>18.10=>19.04 [18:19] lotuspsychje: I see. I did not know. I never upgraded before. I used 16 for a long time, than when i got a new machine i installed 18.04 [18:20] fromBeyond: can you tell us more of your system and its purpose? did you use gnome on 18.04 or i3 too? [18:21] lotuspsychje: I used i3 when working, and gnome otherwise [18:21] fromBeyond as I said earlier *profile* the program on those systems, that'll show you where time is taken [18:21] my system is a dell xps 15. [18:22] TJ-: Yes, I arranged to get the profiles from windows in this time [18:22] fromBeyond: it could be due to the kernel's pre-empt/scheduling configuration, for example [18:22] (we all have same machines, but others run windows) [18:22] yes, i see [18:23] There's no point spending time guessing at random; collect data, analyse it [18:23] yes [18:24] all benchmarks i have ever ran from our codebase, always work quite faster on my ubuntu machine, than on theirs [18:24] recently i got the desire to understand why exactly this is happening [18:24] i will collect the datafrom their machines [18:25] lotuspsychje: my machine is a dell cps 15. It has intel i7. I write c++ code, for real time mesh processing. [18:27] I deal with algorithms, so all my benchmarks are purely computational (no graphics). [18:27] i tried the benchmark on gnome, and got the same result, just as fast as in i3. No significant difference [18:36] fromBeyond: you said you used 16.04 in the past? how was that compared as benchmark [18:50] lotuspsychje: 16.04 was a bit slower on the benchmarks, but not significantly. But there is a difference. [18:50] will produce a graph, i have old results saved === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy === SuperKaramba is now known as BenderRodriguez