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| dabblerdude | Hey everyone. | 01:00 |
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| dabblerdude | Hey tomreyn, you were right about Lubuntu 18.04 LTS supporting OEM installation. | 01:01 |
| dabblerdude | Although, for some reason, I wasn't able to do an OEM install of 19.04. Upon starting up the 19.04 live image, I pressed a key multiple times, pressed F4, hit enter on OEM install, and as I went to go install, I went through the same process as with a regular lubuntu install. | 01:03 |
| tomreyn | dabblerdude: cool. i'm not sure whether it will be supported in 20.04 LTS, though, since lubuntu switched to calamares installer and it surely works differently. so this *might* have broken OEM installs. i don't know whether it did, though, or if it did, whether it has already been fixed. | 01:03 |
| dabblerdude | So nothing changed. | 01:04 |
| tomreyn | ah looks like we had the same though - wondering whether this will work in future releases. | 01:05 |
| dabblerdude | Lubuntu is making this whole thing complicated. | 01:05 |
| tomreyn | i guess that's something you could better test on a 19.10 pre-release snapshot iso rather than on 19.04. | 01:05 |
| dabblerdude | I'm just trying to install a linux distro on some computers with 4GB of RAM and Core 2 Duos. | 01:05 |
| dabblerdude | And sell them. | 01:05 |
| dabblerdude | Any suggestions for another OS? | 01:06 |
| tomreyn | you can always roll your own lubuntu installation | 01:06 |
| tomreyn | but if i was you i'd stick to LTS releases anyways | 01:06 |
| dabblerdude | I put on Lubuntu because for systems with less than 4GB of RAM, it runs extremely well. | 01:06 |
| dabblerdude | tomreyn: I was considering that, but then I got some opinions for staying with current releases. | 01:07 |
| dabblerdude | instead. | 01:07 |
| wxl | what about doing pxe boots and installing lubuntu-desktop? | 01:07 |
| dabblerdude | wxl: You mean, like a minimal installation? | 01:07 |
| wxl | yep | 01:07 |
| wxl | well | 01:08 |
| wxl | no | 01:08 |
| dabblerdude | I mean network install. | 01:08 |
| wxl | that's kind of a different ball of wax | 01:08 |
| wxl | yeah but it can be local | 01:08 |
| dabblerdude | Where you select the software you want to include in the OS. | 01:08 |
| dabblerdude | tomreyn, by rolling your own lubuntu installation, do you mean creating one? | 01:13 |
| dabblerdude | Actually, I may try Xubuntu. | 01:13 |
| dabblerdude | Xubuntu might work. | 01:14 |
| tomreyn | dabblerdude: you could respin the iso, preseed or just write your own tooling which replaces the default user account by one chosen by the user on first run. | 01:15 |
| dabblerdude | tomreyn: Yeah, but I'd rather pick something else. Since Ubuntu 19.04 uses GNOME now, doesn't that use less system resources than Unity? | 01:16 |
| tomreyn | apparently oem-config is part of ubiquity, so it will most likely not work with calamares. you could file a bug about this if you think relevant functionality is being lost by switching to calamares. | 01:16 |
| wxl | it's in the works | 01:16 |
| tomreyn | oh great :) | 01:17 |
| tomreyn | dabblerdude: gnome-shell, which is in use since before 18.04, is most definitely heavier than unity. | 01:17 |
| dabblerdude | tomreyn: Dang, I'll go with something else then. XD | 01:17 |
| tomreyn | dabblerdude: so, as wx1 just pointed out, oem functionality (which still works fine in 18.04) will be back to newer lubuntu releases soon, | 01:18 |
| dabblerdude | Yeah, 19.04 has been giving me some issues. | 01:18 |
| tomreyn | so i'm saying "use LTS" | 01:19 |
| dabblerdude | In fact, I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS right now. | 01:19 |
| tomreyn | users can always upgrade if they feel like it | 01:19 |
| dabblerdude | It's still stable. | 01:19 |
| tomreyn | it's also outdated | 01:19 |
| tomreyn | insecure | 01:19 |
| dabblerdude | tomreyn: I gotta remember it isn't Windows. | 01:19 |
| tomreyn | i think xubuntu still uses ubiquity. | 01:20 |
| tomreyn | i don't know what you're meaning to say there. | 01:20 |
| dabblerdude | I mean, Microsoft's Windows OSes last for more than 10+ years, typically, and still stay secure and updated. | 01:20 |
| wxl | "secure" | 01:21 |
| dabblerdude | It's not the same thing with Ubuntu LTS releases. | 01:21 |
| tomreyn | you like to compare apples with oranges apparently. | 01:21 |
| dabblerdude | Yes. | 01:21 |
| dabblerdude | I seem to be much of a Windows thinker. | 01:22 |
| dabblerdude | I just found out the system requirements for Xubuntu. | 01:24 |
| dabblerdude | 1GB of RAM and 20GB HDD space. | 01:25 |
| dabblerdude | Not bad compared to Ubuntu's. | 01:25 |
| tomreyn | that's lower than what i remember, and i last used it on 16.04 | 01:26 |
| dabblerdude | Ubuntu now, requires 2GB of RAM and 25GB of HDD space. | 01:26 |
| tomreyn | but this is also the wrong channelt o discuss xubuntu | 01:26 |
| dabblerdude | My mistake. | 01:26 |
| dabblerdude | I'll head off of this for now. | 01:26 |
| dabblerdude | See ya guys later. | 01:26 |
| tomreyn | see yuo! | 01:27 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: are you uploading things you land? | 01:33 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: are you uploading things you land?], ECHAN | 01:34 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> But not necessarily | 01:34 |
| wxl | yikes | 01:34 |
| Grobo | I just installed Lubuntu core on a minimal Ubuntu. The mouse is black and so are parts of the task bar. What package do I need to fix this? | 02:05 |
| Grobo | Is there a mouse-pointer package? | 02:05 |
| Grobo | Oh, I can't change the desktop color, either. I can set it but nothing happens | 02:20 |
| Grobo | I see a background at the login screen. After I log in, the background disappears. | 02:26 |
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| TMiii | Hi guys, when I try to use the lubuntu installer I only have the choice to do manual partitioning and not to erase the whole disk like with e.g. the regular ubuntu installer | 06:34 |
| TMiii | Anybody know why this is? | 06:34 |
| TMiii | I tried the "sudo swapoff -a" as was mentioned in the install guide | 06:34 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | @TMiii: which lubuntu version ? | 06:35 |
| TMiii | 19.04 | 06:35 |
| The_LoudSpeaker | Okay. You can try manually erasing your disk using kde partition manager. Then restart the installer. See if that works. | 06:37 |
| TMiii | I think i managed to solve it | 06:38 |
| TMiii | Had to unmount my drive | 06:38 |
| TMiii | There we go, installing :) | 06:40 |
| tulan | hello | 14:39 |
| tulan | china 22:40pm | 14:40 |
| tulan | i am programer python and c++ | 14:41 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> hi | 14:43 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> hi tulan | 14:43 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> this is a support channel | 14:43 |
| tulan | ok | 14:44 |
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