=== clif is now known as Guest50819 [01:00] Hey everyone. [01:01] Hey tomreyn, you were right about Lubuntu 18.04 LTS supporting OEM installation. [01:03] Although, for some reason, I wasn't able to do an OEM install of 19.04. Upon starting up the 19.04 live image, I pressed a key multiple times, pressed F4, hit enter on OEM install, and as I went to go install, I went through the same process as with a regular lubuntu install. [01:03] dabblerdude: cool. i'm not sure whether it will be supported in 20.04 LTS, though, since lubuntu switched to calamares installer and it surely works differently. so this *might* have broken OEM installs. i don't know whether it did, though, or if it did, whether it has already been fixed. [01:04] So nothing changed. [01:05] ah looks like we had the same though - wondering whether this will work in future releases. [01:05] Lubuntu is making this whole thing complicated. [01:05] i guess that's something you could better test on a 19.10 pre-release snapshot iso rather than on 19.04. [01:05] I'm just trying to install a linux distro on some computers with 4GB of RAM and Core 2 Duos. [01:05] And sell them. [01:06] Any suggestions for another OS? [01:06] you can always roll your own lubuntu installation [01:06] but if i was you i'd stick to LTS releases anyways [01:06] I put on Lubuntu because for systems with less than 4GB of RAM, it runs extremely well. [01:07] tomreyn: I was considering that, but then I got some opinions for staying with current releases. [01:07] instead. [01:07] what about doing pxe boots and installing lubuntu-desktop? [01:07] wxl: You mean, like a minimal installation? [01:07] yep [01:08] well [01:08] no [01:08] I mean network install. [01:08] that's kind of a different ball of wax [01:08] yeah but it can be local [01:08] Where you select the software you want to include in the OS. [01:13] tomreyn, by rolling your own lubuntu installation, do you mean creating one? [01:13] Actually, I may try Xubuntu. [01:14] Xubuntu might work. [01:15] dabblerdude: you could respin the iso, preseed or just write your own tooling which replaces the default user account by one chosen by the user on first run. [01:16] tomreyn: Yeah, but I'd rather pick something else. Since Ubuntu 19.04 uses GNOME now, doesn't that use less system resources than Unity? [01:16] apparently oem-config is part of ubiquity, so it will most likely not work with calamares. you could file a bug about this if you think relevant functionality is being lost by switching to calamares. [01:16] it's in the works [01:17] oh great :) [01:17] dabblerdude: gnome-shell, which is in use since before 18.04, is most definitely heavier than unity. [01:17] tomreyn: Dang, I'll go with something else then. XD [01:18] dabblerdude: so, as wx1 just pointed out, oem functionality (which still works fine in 18.04) will be back to newer lubuntu releases soon, [01:18] Yeah, 19.04 has been giving me some issues. [01:19] so i'm saying "use LTS" [01:19] In fact, I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS right now. [01:19] users can always upgrade if they feel like it [01:19] It's still stable. [01:19] it's also outdated [01:19] insecure [01:19] tomreyn: I gotta remember it isn't Windows. [01:20] i think xubuntu still uses ubiquity. [01:20] i don't know what you're meaning to say there. [01:20] I mean, Microsoft's Windows OSes last for more than 10+ years, typically, and still stay secure and updated. [01:21] "secure" [01:21] It's not the same thing with Ubuntu LTS releases. [01:21] you like to compare apples with oranges apparently. [01:21] Yes. [01:22] I seem to be much of a Windows thinker. [01:24] I just found out the system requirements for Xubuntu. [01:25] 1GB of RAM and 20GB HDD space. [01:25] Not bad compared to Ubuntu's. [01:26] that's lower than what i remember, and i last used it on 16.04 [01:26] Ubuntu now, requires 2GB of RAM and 25GB of HDD space. [01:26] but this is also the wrong channelt o discuss xubuntu [01:26] My mistake. [01:26] I'll head off of this for now. [01:26] See ya guys later. [01:27] see yuo! [01:33] @tsimonq2: are you uploading things you land? [01:34] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: are you uploading things you land?], ECHAN [01:34] But not necessarily [01:34] yikes [02:05] I just installed Lubuntu core on a minimal Ubuntu. The mouse is black and so are parts of the task bar. What package do I need to fix this? [02:05] Is there a mouse-pointer package? [02:20] Oh, I can't change the desktop color, either. I can set it but nothing happens [02:26] I see a background at the login screen. After I log in, the background disappears. === lubuntu is now known as Guest76491 === Guest76491 is now known as lubuntu === lubuntu is now known as Guest97979 [06:34] Hi guys, when I try to use the lubuntu installer I only have the choice to do manual partitioning and not to erase the whole disk like with e.g. the regular ubuntu installer [06:34] Anybody know why this is? [06:34] I tried the "sudo swapoff -a" as was mentioned in the install guide [06:35] @TMiii: which lubuntu version ? [06:35] 19.04 [06:37] Okay. You can try manually erasing your disk using kde partition manager. Then restart the installer. See if that works. [06:38] I think i managed to solve it [06:38] Had to unmount my drive [06:40] There we go, installing :) [14:39] hello [14:40] china 22:40pm [14:41] i am programer python and c++ [14:43] hi [14:43] hi tulan [14:43] this is a support channel [14:44] ok === Myrkky-JackQ is now known as PotsLojoQ