[04:05] <angelm> hi
[04:06] <wxl> howdy
[15:39] <fernandocompri> irc://undernet
[15:39] <fernandocompri> sorry
[19:59] <n-iCe> hi hi
[20:05] <n-iCe> uhm
[20:05] <n-iCe> lubuntu is no using almost same resources as ubuntu gnome o.O
[20:05] <wxl> you're doing something wrong then XD
[20:07] <n-iCe> how much does it use at first boot
[20:07] <n-iCe> 700MB as me?
[20:07] <wxl> seems like a lot to me
 what do you have autostarting
[20:09] <n-iCe> nothing
[20:09] <n-iCe> just booted
[20:10] <wxl> according to `free -m` i've got 1514 available out of 1991
[20:11] <wxl> 19.10 of course :)
[20:11] <n-iCe> oh
[20:11] <n-iCe> I downloaded 19.04
[20:11] <n-iCe> is not the last one?
[20:11] <wxl> it is
[20:11] <wxl> i'm sure it's similar
[20:11] <wxl> let me load it up
[20:12] <n-iCe> wxl do you run other os?
[20:12] <wxl> no
[20:12] <n-iCe> is there any difference between .net and .me? sites
[20:13] <wxl> i'll add i'm using live cd's here so it's using a little bit more than normal since part of the memory is used to run the os
[20:13] <wxl> 19.04: 1514/1990
[20:13] <wxl> so same thing
[20:13] <wxl> .me is the actual site. .net is not. don't trust anything from there. there's no relation to the lubuntu team at all.
[20:14] <n-iCe> damn
[20:15] <n-iCe> Going to reinstall
[20:15] <wxl> did you check the disc for defects at boot?
[20:15] <n-iCe> nop
[20:15] <n-iCe> I never do actually
[20:15] <wxl> terrible
[20:16] <wxl> do that this time
[20:16] <wxl> and from here on out!
[20:16] <n-iCe> okok
[20:16] <n-iCe> but let me download from the correct site
 @n-iCe [<n-iCe> how much does it use at first boot], 339
[20:17] <n-iCe> by the way is it possible to run lubuntu from a usb as a hdd?
[20:17] <n-iCe> I mean install lubuntu in a usb?
[20:17] <n-iCe> would be great
[20:17] <wxl> sure
[20:17] <n-iCe> never asked that before
 n-ice yes I have done that a long timea ago
[20:17] <n-iCe> oh rally?
 just select the usb like hard drive to install to
 @n-iCe [<n-iCe> I mean install lubuntu in a usb?], Need a good usb else works very slow.
 or wahtever you want won't be as good as an ssd
[20:17] <n-iCe> I see
[20:18] <n-iCe> maybe use a microsd?
[20:18] <n-iCe> would be faster than a usb?
 sd card booting can be complicated
 I tried a few months back on a sandisk usb and it was dead slow.
[20:18] <n-iCe> oh ok
[20:18] <apt-ghetto> You have USB 3?
[20:18] <n-iCe> I do have
[20:18] <n-iCe> ports I mean
[20:18] <n-iCe> but actually no idea if my usb itself is 3.0
 Mine was usb 2 tho.
[20:18] <apt-ghetto> There are also external ssd with USB 3
[20:19] <n-iCe> I do own a ssd
 @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> There are also external ssd with USB 3], Those run like the wind.
[20:19] <n-iCe> built in 256gb
[20:19] <n-iCe> but it has windows
[20:19] <n-iCe> I just bought this laptop
[20:19] <n-iCe> not sure if I lose guarantee touching the OS
[20:21] <apt-ghetto> No, there is no problem with the guarantee
[20:21] <wxl> depending on who the seller is, there could be
[20:21] <apt-ghetto> Why?
 generally you do not. But don't know what will your retailer say. So no idea. Some dumb retailers do not agree.
 @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> Why?], Coz this world is filled with all kinds of dumb people.
[20:22] <wxl> some of them might consider windows removal as bad as removing a piece of hardware
[20:22] <apt-ghetto> There is no need to remove windows
[20:23] <n-iCe> Well, bought in México.
[20:23] <apt-ghetto> You can resize the partition and free about 30-50 GiB
[20:23] <n-iCe> apt-ghetto yeah, and install lubuntu was thinking that
[20:24] <n-iCe> after install lubuntu will I be prompted to which os I want to boot?
[20:24] <n-iCe> or do I need to move something in groob mrb etc
[20:24] <n-iCe> never done this before
[20:24] <apt-ghetto> If you install Lubuntu in the same boot mode
[20:24] <n-iCe> what does same boot mode mean
[20:24] <apt-ghetto> There are two different boot modes: the good, old BIOS and the new UEFI
[20:25] <n-iCe> ine is legacy
[20:25] <n-iCe> mine
[20:25] <apt-ghetto> How do you know that?
[20:25] <n-iCe> I mean, is eufi but can change it to legacy on Bios
[20:25] <apt-ghetto> So if you have UEFI, then Windows is very likely installed also in UEFI mode
[20:26] <n-iCe> you know what
[20:26] <n-iCe> I don't want windows
[20:26] <n-iCe> I don't like it
[20:26] <n-iCe> let's remove it
[20:27] <n-iCe> I downloaded lubuntu from the correct site, now is in my usb, brb! let's reboot
[20:27] <n-iCe> thanks
[20:31] <n-iCe> Ok, Im in the new iso
[20:31] <n-iCe> 500MB as boot
[20:31] <n-iCe> not installed yet
[20:32] <n-iCe> removing window
[20:32] <n-iCe> windows
[20:32] <n-iCe> :
[20:32] <n-iCe> :X
[20:48] <n-iCe> ok, something wrong
[20:48] <n-iCe> haha is not booting
[20:49] <n-iCe> i think has something to do withh uefi
[20:49] <n-iCe> but boot bios mode is set up on legacy
[20:52] <apt-ghetto> Are you in the live-system?
[20:54] <n-iCe> yes
[20:54] <n-iCe> I reinstalled
[20:55] <n-iCe> gonna try again
[20:55] <apt-ghetto> Please share the link of `{ sudo parted --list; sudo efibootmgr -v; } | pastebinit`
[20:55] <n-iCe> oh ok
[20:56] <n-iCe> apt-ghetto:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3zGbjFY9Wx/
[20:57] <apt-ghetto> You have a BIOS installation. Did you install the bootloader on /dev/sda?
[20:58] <n-iCe> yes
[20:58] <n-iCe> let me reboot
 I don't see a boot flag.
[20:58] <apt-ghetto> The boot flag is only needed by Windows and buggy firmware
[20:59] <apt-ghetto> Grub can boot the OS from every known partition
[21:01] <n-iCe> nope, did not boot
[21:02] <n-iCe> and yes it was installed in /dev/sda
[21:02] <apt-ghetto> Is there any message?
[21:02] <n-iCe> well a hp eufi test thing
[21:02] <apt-ghetto> And check your settings, that the disk is at the first position in the boot order
[21:03] <n-iCe> it is
[21:04] <n-iCe> lubuntu installation did not set the sda with the flag boot
[21:04] <n-iCe> maybe that's the problem
[21:05] <n-iCe> don't you think?
[21:05] <n-iCe> and I see 2.5MB unallocated space
[21:06] <apt-ghetto> The boot flag is technically not needed by Grub
[21:06] <apt-ghetto> But there is buggy firmware, which checks if the boot flag is set and after this bootstrap the bootloader
[21:07] <apt-ghetto> You can set the boot flag, e.g. with GParted
[21:07] <n-iCe> yes I did
[21:07] <apt-ghetto> Reboot and test it. If not, please write the exact error message
[21:09] <n-iCe> ok
[21:17] <n-iCe> Yes, worked.
[21:17] <n-iCe> The installation has a bug I guess
[21:17] <n-iCe> Also it always create an unallocated space
[21:17] <apt-ghetto> I guess the unallocated space is for the alignment
[21:18] <apt-ghetto> And if the boot flag helped, then you have buggy firmware
[21:18] <n-iCe> htop 444MB
[21:18] <n-iCe> apt-ghetto: well, I downloaded the last iso in the topic
[21:19] <apt-ghetto> But there is open task to set the boot flag always
[21:19] <apt-ghetto> So I guess, it will be fixed for the next release
[21:19] <n-iCe> hope so
[21:19] <n-iCe> my touchpad isnt working
[21:19] <n-iCe> tap to click
[21:19] <n-iCe> can't find mouse config
[21:20] <n-iCe> found it
[21:20] <n-iCe> oh but no touch to tap
[21:20] <n-iCe> tap to click
[21:20] <n-iCe> oh done
[21:20] <n-iCe> haha
[21:21] <n-iCe> thank you, bbl
[22:40] <n-iCe> back
[23:48] <fff_> hi
[23:49] <wxl> o/