[02:30] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @wozencroft [Why is that let's say the Here We Go app on android has voice navigation for doz …], if you need audio guided turn by turn navigtion the uNav app is currently the only one that can provide it.  The Here Maps for UT is a webapp that just launches its web page in a wrapped browser instance.  To get it a UT native app coded f
[02:30] <ubptgbot> or Here would likely require Here's cooperation, as well as a developers time.
[02:30] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @wozencroft [Why is that let's say the Here We Go app on android has voice navigation for doz …], [Edit] if you need audio guided turn by turn navigtion the uNav app is currently the only one that can provide it for UT.  The Here Maps for UT is a webapp that just launches its web page in a wrapped browser instance.  To get it a UT nati
[02:30] <ubptgbot> ve app coded for Here would likely require Here's cooperation, as well as a developers time.
[02:30] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @wozencroft [Why is that let's say the Here We Go app on android has voice navigation for doz …], [Edit] if you need audio guided turn by turn navigtion the uNav app is currently the only one that can provide it for UT.  The Here Maps for UT is a webapp that just launches its web page in a wrapped browser instance.  To get a UT native
[02:30] <ubptgbot> app coded for Here would likely require Here's cooperation, as well as a developers time.
[04:39] <ubptgbot> Steve Cook was added by: Steve Cook
[04:42] <ubptgbot> <Steve Cook> I'm new to UT and have a question about setting it up on my phone: When UT is flashed onto my phone, does the current Android system get replaced by UT, or will it be setup like a dual boot? I'm afraid of a crash in UT, and I
[04:43] <ubptgbot> <Steve Cook> I'd not be able to use my phone.
[04:43] <ubptgbot> <Steve Cook> Can anyone help me with that?
[04:51] <ubptgbot> <JasonMD> It does not set up dual boot, UT is pretty stable, what phone do you have?
[05:01] <ubptgbot> <Steve Cook> Motorola moto-x4
[05:03] <ubptgbot> <JasonMD> Don't think UT has been ported to that yet
[05:04] <ubptgbot> <Steve Cook> So I can't just install it like a Linux distro?
[05:07] <ubptgbot> <AlexMex90> @Steve Cook [So I can't just install it like a Linux distro?], No
[05:07] <ubptgbot> <Steve Cook> I must be able to choose my phone from a list of supported devices.
[05:15] <ubptgbot> <Steve Cook> Well, I think I understand that I won't be able to install UT onto my moto-x4. Thanks for responses.
[05:19] <ubptgbot> <JasonMD> Np
[08:46] <ubptgbot> ricnic was added by: ricnic
[08:51] <ubptgbot> <ricnic> Can my UBports phone control a HestiaPI thermostat?
[09:46] <wozencroft> TotalSonic: Yes, thank you for the hints. Someone mentioned too that uNav is the only one, which looks good, has a limited language support though.
[10:00] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @wozencroft [TotalSonic: Yes, thank you for the hints. Someone mentioned too that uNav is the …], info on how you can help expand the language list for uNav is at http://people.ubuntu.com/~costales/unav/voices/ & https://translations.launchpad.net/unav
[10:13] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @ricnic [Can my UBports phone control a HestiaPI thermostat?], If you write an app to do so, i guess it could
[10:46] <ubptgbot> Portu51 was added by: Portu51
[11:23] <ubptgbot> allright108 was added by: allright108
[12:03] <ubptgbot> <imraniqbal> @a7mqd [<reply to unk>], Wrong chat?
[13:49] <ubptgbot> C R was added by: C R
[13:50] <ubptgbot> <C R> Hi I have a flashed nexus 5 , to implement convergence I need any special cable ? is there any guide ?
[13:52] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> if you mean to connect to an external display by "convergence" then what you need is a SlimPort cable
[13:53] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> MHL will not work. Generic USB->HDMI will not work. It must be SlimPort
[13:53] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> you will also need a bluetooth mouse/keyboard
[13:55] <ubptgbot> <jimmy_UbunTouch> Modular launcher updated in the open-store!
[13:55] <ubptgbot> <jimmy_UbunTouch> [Edit] launcher Modular updated in the open-store!
[13:58] <ubptgbot> <C R> awesome thanks ! any special config needed ?
[14:24] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> No, just plug the SlimPort cable
[15:18] <ubptgbot> DracoMagister was added by: DracoMagister
[15:36] <ubptgbot> <habibedelicay> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/OB5gc96M.webp
[15:53] <ubptgbot> <Volfoni> Hello! I got two personalized wallpapers on my Aquaris M10 FHD that I can't remove with the GUI. Where can I find them so that I can remove them directly?
[16:44] <ubptgbot> <C R> @advocatux [No, just plug the SlimPort cable], 👍
[16:56] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> Hi, does the Morph browser support extensions (or add-ons, or plug ins or whatever they're called ;-) ). If so, how would you install them?
[17:09] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no, i think they are disabled
[17:21] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Is Morph based on another browser?
[17:22] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it is based on chromium engine
[17:22] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> well, it is based on QtWebEngine, which is based on chromium
[17:24] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> Thanks. Couldn't find anything about it on the net
[17:28] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> Why I ask: There's a feature request for Morph to support storing passwords (https://github.com/ubports/morph-browser/issues/181). … I am running a private Nextcloud server and have recently switched to Nextcloud's "passwords" app. They have browser plugins for Firefox and Chromium. I wondered if I can use the Chromium plugin with
[17:28] <ubptgbot> Morph.
[17:29] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @ruedigerkupper [Why I ask: There's a feature request for Morph to support storing passwords (htt …], because if it was trivial to have extensions/plug-ins work correctly and in a secure fashion, we would be doing it already
[17:30] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> the chromium engine provides an internal method of storing passwords; supporting that is much easier than supporting arbitrary extensions
[17:38] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> Yes, I know and supporting this would be a huge improvement. I agree this is the primary way to go. … That having said, I recently stopped using the password saving feature of Chrome and Firefox. I had been using them for ages, but I never liked how they lock you into the product. Passwords stored in Firefox (even if synchronized t
[17:38] <ubptgbot> o their server) cannot be accessed in Chromium or any other browser. Firefox not even has a way of exporting your passwords again. Let alone the privacy concerns in storing such personal data at Google.
[17:39] <ubptgbot> <mimecar> you can use keepass to store passwords
[17:40] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> the internal password storage in chromium does not store them "at google"
[17:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it is disappointing however that it no longer seems to integrate with gnome-keyringg
[17:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> [Edit] it is disappointing however that it no longer seems to integrate with gnome-keyring
[17:49] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> Yes. There even is a UBPorts port of keepass called KeepIt. However, keepass uses a local database on your device. Passwords cannot be shared between devices.
[17:50] <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> Keeweb
[17:50] <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> Its online and works great in morph
[17:51] <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> not really online. You can access without Internet
[17:53] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> As a UBPorts user, what I'd like to have is a secure way of storing my passwords online, in a way I can share them between different devices and different browsers. … Yes, similar to keeweb - but that does not integrate with morph eather? Does it fill in the login data for you?
[17:58] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no
[18:00] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> I expect it has a browser plugin that does it, right? What brings us back to the start of discussion ;-).
[18:00] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> there would have to be an extension, yes
[18:01] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> [Edit] I expect it has a browser plugin that does it, right? Wich brings us back to the start of discussion ;-).
[18:02] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> That's why I asked if Morph supports extensions. Seems it does not at this point.
[18:02] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> that's why i said it does not :)
[18:07] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> @dohbee [because if it was trivial to have extensions/plug-ins work correctly and in a se …], @Rodney: I just realize you might have misunderstood me on that comment: That was not meant to be a complaint, just an explanation why I ask this question. Sorry.
[18:08] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> @dohbee [that's why i said it does not :)], Yes, I understand :-).
[18:10] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @ruedigerkupper [@Rodney: I just realize you might have misunderstood me on that comment: That wa …], it's fine. i'm just saying it is by no means easy. and there are some much bigger problems with QtWebEngine integration that need to be dealt with prior. also, i'm not sure if extensions can be used upstream (in QtWebEngine, without morph
[18:10] <ubptgbot> that is) either
[18:13] <ubptgbot> <ruedigerkupper> Hm, all right. That's what this channel is for, I guess. Asking questions and getting immediate answers from developers. Thanks a lot!
[18:27] <ubptgbot> <tylnesh> Hello, I've recently bought an used oneplus one from UK ebay and flashed it with Ubports. I've got only one major issue and that is that it doesn't recognize that I've inserted a SIM card
[18:28] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> did it recognize it under android?
[18:28] <ubptgbot> <tylnesh> I planned to use it as my main device for my trip to china, which ill probably still do, as I don't think it would be reasonably priced to us my eu data plan
[18:29] <ubptgbot> <tylnesh> One of my mistakes was flashingnit before I tried it with android
[18:30] <ubptgbot> <tylnesh> I think ill reflash it with lineage after I get back from my trip, cut thats a but too latr for my original intention
[18:32] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> most likely it's a hardware issue and the SIM connector is loose or such
[18:35] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> or pins got busted up inside the sim cage
[18:35] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> a quick search on duckduckgo suggests it's not an uncommon issue
[18:38] <ubptgbot> <hawk_is_here> Anyone heard of Puffin OS?
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it's just another android rom. and this isn't the place to talk about android roms :)
[18:45] <wozencroft> If I used that .img file for the splash screen, is it possible to change the background .png like for grub choosing an other image?
[18:45] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> and very sketchy
[18:45] <ubptgbot> <hawk_is_here> @dohbee [it's just another android rom. and this isn't the place to talk about android ro …], I agree... i just saw that... so was a little curious
[18:45] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @wozencroft [If I used that .img file for the splash screen, is it possible to change the bac …], no, it's not so trivial
[18:46] <ubptgbot> <hawk_is_here> Its more of a FirefoxOS now known as KaiOS
[18:46] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no, kaios is a feature phone os
[18:46] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> but anyway, if you want to talk about things not UT, https://t.me/UBportsOF
[18:46] <ubptgbot> <hawk_is_here> Same with It my friend
[18:46] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @hawk_is_here [Its more of a FirefoxOS now known as KaiOS], KaiOS is owned by Google
[18:47] <ubptgbot> <hawk_is_here> @TotalSonic [KaiOS is owned by Google], Really?
[18:47] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @hawk_is_here [Really?], yes
[18:47] <wozencroft> dohbee: I see, thx. Is that even opensource? I mean the flashed image?
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no; but please, use the OF group if you want to talk about kaios/puffinos
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @wozencroft [dohbee: I see, thx. Is that even opensource? I mean the flashed image?], well we can change it; but it can be complicated
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> not something you can easily just select a PNG from inside the OS as, either
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> you have to rebuild the img and flash it
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @hawk_is_here [Really?], ok - on further check - Google owns a big share ofit
[18:49] <ubptgbot> <hawk_is_here> @dohbee [no; but please, use the OF group if you want to talk about kaios/puffinos], I'm so sorry, i was just thinking abiut idea
[18:49] <ubptgbot> <hawk_is_here> No further discussion from my side
[18:49] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @hawk_is_here [Really?], [Edit] ok - on further check - Google owns a big share of it
[18:49] <wozencroft> dohbee: I see, that's what I was thinking about, I mean rebuilding with a different image if that might be possible as customization
[18:50] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @hawk_is_here [Its more of a FirefoxOS now known as KaiOS], [Edit] KaiOS is partly owned by Google
[18:50] <wozencroft> That new splash is one of the best thing on UBports. Other two I really like the UI handling and the installed sounds
[18:50] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @wozencroft [dohbee: I see, that's what I was thinking about, I mean rebuilding with a differ …], yes. there's a forum thread about it iirc. but it's also possible to break your device by doing so, and it's somethign that could be overridden on an update
[18:51] <wozencroft> Ok, I saw a thread but it was only about flashing the .img. Will try to find the other one.
[19:18] <wozencroft> Yeah, found it, a tool called imgdata tool is required. I suppose that was used before creating the new UBports splash too
[19:27] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> @hawk_is_here [Anyone heard of Puffin OS?], its android. but one of the intresting things is they are doing some kind of auto caching of webapps to speed them up - this is something i think we might be able to try
[21:37] <ubptgbot> <C R> @mateosalta [its android. but one of the intresting things is they are doing some kind of aut …], https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQhRX8roCWc      this offers a detailed explanation about puffin OS
[22:16] <ubptgbot> <Braillynn> I'd definitely never use Puffin OS
[22:23] <ubptgbot> <C R> Yeap their way of doing stuff is a little off
[22:41] <ubptgbot> <chzbacon> ummm
[22:41] <ubptgbot> <chzbacon> kind of strange. not sure i’d ever use it though.
[22:43] <ubptgbot> <chzbacon> cause you know… i want to pass everything off to a 3rd party service.
[22:59] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> seeing junk like that put out as an "alternative" definitely makes me even more grateful for UT
[23:35] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> yeah... not so good
[23:37] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> ive been thinking on ways to script client side preload, or even offline cache loading, a few tricks like that might really make webapps smooth
[23:38] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> and not send everything through a service :)