[05:39] <didrocks> good morning
[06:27] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[06:28] <didrocks> hey duflu
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[07:19] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:26] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[07:28] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[07:31] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:32] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[08:01] <Laney> morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:01]  * Laney is back in the hood
[08:02] <Gargoyle> Hiya!
[08:02] <duflu> Morning Laney
[08:02] <duflu> and Gargoyle
[08:02] <Laney> peace Gargoyle and duflu
[08:03] <didrocks> hey hey Laney! welcome back! Hope the trip was fun and fine :)
[08:03] <Laney> hey didrocks!
[08:04] <Laney> it was very nice yes, but now I've got a cold :'(
[08:05] <didrocks> argh, due to AC?
[08:05] <didrocks> or just traditional conference-flu?
[08:06] <Laney> hmm not so much AC around
[08:06] <Laney> probably a Debian based infection :P
[08:06] <oSoMoN> hey Laney, welcome back to the old continent
[08:06] <Laney> GPL-ed disease
[08:06] <Laney> hey oSoMoN
[08:06] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:06] <Laney> https://wiki.debian.org/DebConf/19/Photos?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=debconf19_group.jpg
[08:07]  * Laney doesn't look so impressed in this picture /o\
[08:07] <didrocks> Laney: sounds like the merge worked then ;)
[08:07] <duflu> You should be able to figure out who to blame if it's GPL'd
[08:07] <Laney> I think they do one-commit-per-release
[08:09] <didrocks> heh
[08:10] <marcustomlinson> That photo is like a game of Where's Laney
[08:10] <Laney> there's also an easter egg in that picture too
[08:10] <Laney> first person to identify what it is gets a beer at the next meeting
[08:11]  * didrocks found xnox but not Laney
[08:12] <Laney> :D
[08:12] <Laney> happy to have ruined the team's productivity
[08:12] <didrocks> ;)
[08:12] <marcustomlinson> Laney: the cow teddy?
[08:13] <Laney> marcustomlinson: YEP!
[08:13] <duflu> Laney, a couple of people have torn faces, but that's probably a stitching error and not an easter egg
[08:13] <Laney> the guy by the tree is the photographer
[08:14] <Laney> he got stitched in later
[08:14] <Laney> and juliank gave him the cow toy
[08:16] <didrocks> heh
[08:56]  * didrocks puzzled about hardening-no-pi on default go build, without any helper tweaked…
[09:04] <didrocks> interesting, if you add the build-dep on golang-go explicitely (which was already installed), the pie issue goes out. I've never seen an helper depending on the build-depends list directly (like, reading it)
[09:30] <Trevinho> morning guyz
[09:34] <duflu> Morning Trevinho
[09:34] <Trevinho> hi duflu
[09:39] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[09:41] <Trevinho> hi didrocks
[10:14] <clobrano> hi all 0/
[10:17] <didrocks> hey clobrano
[10:18] <clobrano> hey didrocks, how's it going?
[10:19] <didrocks> good, thanks, yourself?
[11:18] <Wimpress> Laney: Who from the desktop team is with Will in Toronto this week?
[11:18] <Wimpress> Just Ken?
[11:20] <Laney> hey Wimpress
[11:20] <Laney> I think robert_ancell is there too
[11:21] <Wimpress> OK, thanks.
[11:21] <Wimpress> I am not BTW.
[11:21] <Wimpress> Laney: Are you standing in for Seb this week?
[11:22] <Wimpress> I've found an issue with 18.04.2/3, HWE and nvidia 430 drivers. Just about to send and email and what to know who on desktop (other than Will and J_ibel) should get it.
[11:22] <Laney> in what sense?
[11:23] <Laney> I mean not officially, but feel free to copy me
[11:23] <Laney> and if it's nvidia then presumably tseliot too ;>
[11:24] <Wimpress> Just validating my findings before I send the mail.
[11:25] <Laney> good point though, who wants to run the team meeting later?
[11:25] <Laney> all the teachers are away
[11:25] <Laney> (i assume)
[11:37] <Laney> Wimpress: If it's a bug, should be filed and on the ISO tracker too so the people managing the point release can see it
[11:38] <Laney> Not that I can see a .3 milestone there...
[11:38] <Laney> sil2100: ^- you managing this one?
[11:39] <marcustomlinson> Laney: Looks like you may be the next in command re: the meeting
[11:39] <Laney> CAN'T MAKE ME
[11:41] <tseliot> Wimpress: when it comes to nvidia, feel free to forward any issues to me too
[11:42] <Laney> I just want a working gnome-shell 3.33.4, is that so much to ask?
[11:42]  * Laney is going to have a tantrum
[11:43] <Laney> I'm off next week so I'm a bit stressed out about getting this stuff uploaded soon
[11:44] <Laney> at least the core parts of the desktop
[12:00] <Laney> https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/pixels.png yay
[12:42] <clobrano> didrocks: oops, didn't see the reply. Very well, it seems I'll be in Thessaloniki at the end of August \0/
[12:43] <didrocks> clobrano: excellent! Hope you will enjoy GUADEC :)
[12:44] <clobrano> didrocks: I'm sure I will
[13:12] <sil2100> Laney: Adam is the main driver for .3 if anything, let me see if I have teh powers to create the milestone
[13:12] <sil2100> (I assume I do not)
[13:19] <sil2100> Laney: ah, you meant the QA tracker milestone? Since I see a .3 milestone on LP if anything
[13:31] <Laney> sil2100: yeah that
[13:31] <Laney> I mean the release is supposed to be in 2 days, but this implies that maybe it won't be?
[13:32] <Laney> guess we should have a meeting or something
[13:32] <sil2100> Laney: yeah, it won't, there's a week-slip for .3
[13:32] <sil2100> Laney: Adam pushed it a week later to give the kernel guys more time to get things ready
[13:33] <sil2100> hm, but indeed, that wasn't really announced anywhere
[13:33] <Laney> heh
[13:34] <Laney> k, good idea to do that :-)
[13:34] <Laney> now then:
[13:34] <Laney> #startmeeting desktop 2019-07-13
[13:34] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 30 13:34:28 2019 UTC.  The chair is Laney. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:34] <Laney> /o\
[13:34] <marcustomlinson> hello
[13:34] <Laney> i don't have the list
[13:34] <Laney> one second
[13:34] <marcustomlinson> on the google cal event I think
[13:34] <didrocks> lalala :)
[13:35] <Trevinho> :)
[13:35] <Laney> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel (out), kenvandine (out), laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:35] <Laney> copied it from last week
[13:36] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:36] <Laney> #topic b
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[13:36] <Laney> #subtopic incoming
[13:36] <Laney> is that a thing? who knows
[13:36] <Laney> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:36] <marcustomlinson> :)
[13:36] <Laney> that looks empty
[13:36] <Laney> #subtoic tracking
[13:36]  * Trevinho changed the subtopic to incoming
[13:36] <Laney> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:36]  * Trevinho changed the subtopic to tracking
[13:37] <Laney> there's that reiwa stuff
[13:37] <Laney> seb128 was supposed to get that off the list
[13:37] <Laney> bad man
[13:37] <Laney> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1835922
[13:37] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1835922 in mesa (Ubuntu Disco) "missing gl* symbols in version 19.0.2" [Undecided,New]
[13:38] <Laney> tjaalton: you're handling this one? guess I can assign you
[13:39] <Laney> one minute JFDI timeout
[13:39] <Laney> #topic d
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[13:39] <Laney> #subtopic incoming
[13:39] <Laney> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:39] <Laney> that looks empty to me
[13:40] <Laney> there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1833916 but that seems like a kernel thing and the Ubuntu task should be removed
[13:40] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1833916 in linux (Ubuntu) "USB-C to HDMI converter is not working with thunderbolt port" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[13:40] <Laney> done
[13:40] <Laney> #subtopic tracking
[13:40] <Laney> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:41] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guile-2.2/+bug/1823459
[13:41] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1823459 in guile-2.2 (Ubuntu Disco) "guile-2.2 ftbfs in disco (arm64 only)" [High,In progress]
[13:41] <Laney> not sure that's going to be fixed in disco
[13:42] <marcustomlinson> why is it unassigned?
[13:42] <marcustomlinson> oh, because of what you just said I guess
[13:42] <marcustomlinson> :P
[13:42] <Laney> Changed in guile-2.2 (Ubuntu):
[13:42] <Laney> assignee: 	Andrea Azzarone (azzar1) → nobody
[13:42] <Laney> Changed in guile-2.2 (Ubuntu Disco):
[13:42] <Laney> assignee: 	Andrea Azzarone (azzar1) → nobody
[13:42] <Laney> :'((((((((((((((((((
[13:42] <marcustomlinson> ah
[13:43] <Laney> anyway I deleted the task, it got fixed in eoan and I'm pretty sure nobody cares about backporting that to disco
[13:43] <Laney> but the diff is presumably there if anyone does
[13:43] <Laney> #topic e
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[13:43] <Laney> #subtopic incoming
[13:43] <Laney> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:44] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/+bug/1551623
[13:44] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1551623 in gconf (Ubuntu) "[SRU] package gconf2 3.2.6-3ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed" [Critical,Triaged]
[13:44] <Laney> hmm
[13:45] <marcustomlinson> Is this still a bug if #1828639 is fixed
[13:46] <marcustomlinson> ah come one ubot5
[13:46] <marcustomlinson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1828639
[13:46] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1828639 in dpkg (Ubuntu Eoan) "Unlooping all the trigger loops!!!!!" [High,Fix committed]
[13:46] <Laney> thx, I was failing at loading that
[13:47] <Laney> I guess probably not
[13:47] <marcustomlinson> -1 then
[13:47] <Laney> the debdiff there seems technically right but if it's not fixing an actual bug any more then shouldn't be rls-nominated I think
[13:48] <oSoMoN> agreed
[13:48] <didrocks> +1
[13:48] <Laney> I assume +1 to -1
[13:48] <Laney> :P
[13:48] <marcustomlinson> haha
[13:48] <Laney> ok, cheers, I'll comment quickly
[13:48] <didrocks> right, that was "agreed" ;)
[13:50] <Laney> okey
[13:50] <Laney> #subtopic tracking
[13:50] <Laney> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:50] <Laney> that looks good too
[13:50] <Laney> #topic proposed-migration blockers
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[13:50] <Laney> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:51] <Laney> sorry I didn't pre-review this this week
[13:51] <Laney> let me see quickly
[13:51] <didrocks> (I'm taking care of grub2, which is almost unblocked FYI)
[13:51] <Laney> we dished out most of these already didn't we
[13:51] <Laney> didrocks: you get to do that under the radar as this is not in our section :P
[13:52] <Laney>  libsoup2.4 (2.66.1-1 to 2.67.3-1) in proposed for 5 days
[13:52] <didrocks> yeah, still needed work though :p
[13:52] <Laney> that is my upload
[13:52] <Laney> I dunno what's happening yet, doesn't happen here, need to look further
[13:52] <Laney> so I'll take that one
[13:52]  * Laney checks trello for any new ones that are needed
[13:54] <Laney> ok I see libevdev libnfs gvfs/i386
[13:55] <Laney> I know that the last one is a flaky test but I'll make a card so that hopefully someone can be assigned to de-flake it
[13:55] <Laney> will make cards for those three
[13:55] <Laney> #topic AOB
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[13:57] <Laney> 30 seconds
[13:57] <Laney> 15 seconds
[13:57] <Laney> 5 seconds
[13:57] <Laney> #endmeeting
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[13:57] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul 30 13:57:32 2019 UTC.
[13:57] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-07-30-13.34.moin.txt
[13:57] <marcustomlinson> thanks Laney
[13:57] <Laney> cheers
[13:58] <Laney> #subtopic totally works
[13:58] <didrocks> thanks Laney :)
[13:58] <oSoMoN> thanks Laney
[13:58] <Laney> except I typoed one of them
[13:58] <Laney> 13:36 <Laney> #subtoic tracking
[13:58] <Laney> but Trevinho-bot still picked it up, what great AI!
[13:58] <Trevinho> jeje
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[18:32] <bittin> What is your meetings about?
[18:33] <bittin> if you still have them?
[18:46] <fabiomirmar> Howdy Desktop team. I'm trying to export /var/lib from a liveCD (Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop) using NFS, but I get the message "exportfs: /var/lib does not support NFS export". This comes from the squashfs from the livecd... From my investigation, squashfs should be able to be NFS exported, unless -no-exports is used during mksquashfs. How can I tell if Ubuntu uses it during mksquashfs in its ISO? Any other pointers on
[18:46] <fabiomirmar> how to accomplish the NFS Export of that filesystem?
[18:50] <willcooke> Hi fabiomirmar, this channel is mainly for Ubuntu developers to talk to each other.  For support questions you would have more luck asking in #ubuntu
[18:50] <fabiomirmar> willcooke: ack. I'll give it a try. Thanks!
[18:50] <willcooke> fabiomirmar, np, good luck!
[18:52] <immu> hello mr willcooke
[18:52] <willcooke> hi immu
[18:53] <immu> meeting over?
[18:53] <bittin> immu: yeah a couple of hours ago i heard: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-07-30-13.34.moin.txt
[18:54] <sarnold> fabiomirmar: try strings -a | grep export  or strings -a | grep mksquash  or similar -- *maybe* it encodes the command line into the image itself?
[18:56] <immu> what kernel version are they tracking for 19.10 willcooke
[18:58] <fabiomirmar> sarnold: thanks. I just used "unsquashfs -s filesystem.squashfs" and I can see "Filesystem is exportable via NFS" which makes me even more confusing as why I'm not able to export that
[18:59] <willcooke> immu, 5.2 I think
[19:11] <immu> any chance that 5.3 could be targetted? we still do have time before kernel freeze?
[19:14] <willcooke> immu, #ubuntu-kernel is the right place to ask about that
[19:14] <immu> sure mr willcooke