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lotuspsychjegood morning to all02:54
marcoagpintoHi!08:09
lunahi08:16
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BluesKajHi folks11:31
marcoagpintoBluesKaj!!!!!11:32
marcoagpintoHello my dear brother!11:32
marcoagpinto>:) <- it is me, the cola demon11:32
BluesKajhi marcoagpinto11:33
marcoagpintoover an hour to install a MS update :(12:08
BluesKajtheir repos are always too busy for a fast DL, one of the major reasons why i dropped Windows, constantly updating and using up resources.12:18
BluesKajtuesday, the MS update/upgrade day12:19
marcoagpintoyes12:27
marcoagpintobut now they also update on other days12:27
marcoagpinto:)12:27
marcoagpintoit has happened12:27
BluesKajyes12:29
EoflaOEHello BluesKaj12:43
BluesKajHi EoflaOE12:44
EoflaOEBluesKaj: How are you doing?12:44
BluesKajok here  EoflaOE, and you?12:44
EoflaOEI am doing well12:45
immuhi all16:25
lotuspsychjehi16:26
immuhi @lotuspsychje16:26
immuhi @BluesKaj16:27
immuhow many are running on the wayland session16:27
lotuspsychjenot me16:27
BluesKajhi immu, wayland is still out of the picture for me on kde/plasma16:29
immu@lotuspsychje, i tried installing 18.04 LTS but i found it to be slow and a gedit error made me move to 19.0416:38
immu@BluesKaj, why so?16:39
BluesKajimmu, can you read "buggy"  :-)16:40
BluesKajimmu, no need for @ on irc16:40
tomreynwith gnome-shell, wayland is mostly usable, but there are some issues, still, including performance issues.16:41
immuBluesKaj, oh yes i forgot lol16:43
immubrb switching to X16:44
immuBluesKaj i am back16:46
immuX is better as on Wayland synaptic won't launch16:47
tomreynimmu: try running it with pkexec16:48
immutomreyn, i have switched to X session17:04
tomreynok17:06
immunice to see people here talking17:11
Walexit will take another 5 years for Wayland/Weston to be usable.17:17
lotuspsychjeoO17:19
pragmaticenigmaI don't think it will take 5 years to be usable... The hardest part of the adoption to Wayland is the graphics drivers, which the proprietary ones haven't been fast on updating to support Wayland17:22
immuhow many are upgrading to 19.10?17:27
lotuspsychjeimmu: 19.10 is still in developing17:28
lotuspsychjeimmu: aka, not yet reccomended to upgrade17:28
immuwhen it arrives that is?17:31
lotuspsychjeimmu: ubuntu codenames contain the year and month17:32
lotuspsychjeimmu: 19 . 10  2019, october17:33
immuthanks lotuspsychje17:38
immuanyplace where we can track the development of 19.1017:40
naccimmu: #ubuntu+117:40
immunacc, thanks17:41
TJ-lotuspsychje: thanks for the OMG link about gnome-software17:44
lotuspsychjenp TJ-17:44
lotuspsychjeif anyone wants, i got a flooding ##techrss where alot of linux/ubuntu news going17:45
TJ-Might make things easier if these are compartmentalised (deb vs snap) but the article seems to be suggesting gnome-software might be completely dropped17:45
lotuspsychjereally unsure where they will head17:46
lotuspsychjeermine & flamingo might tell :p17:47
TJ-It looks like more NIH/walled-garden/pay-us type strategy17:48
tomreynyes, sadly18:12
EoflaOEhi tomreyn18:16
tomreynand hi EoflaOE18:16
immuboth gnome and ubuntu devs are fighting for snap18:16
lotuspsychjehey EoflaOE18:18
EoflaOEhi lotuspsychje18:18
tomreynTJ-: which article did you read there? this one? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Snap-Store-Start18:19
tomreynoh you said "OMG link", so probably omgubuntu.co.uk18:21
immubrb boys18:26
bittinDo the Ubuntu Desktop Team, still has irc meetings at this time?18:44
lotuspsychje!meetings18:45
ubot5Team meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting - See « /msg ubot5 logs » for transcripts.18:45
bittinlotuspsychje: seems to be silent there, maybe its canceled this week as people are on the sprint in Canad?18:47
bittin*Canada18:47
lotuspsychjenot sure sorry18:47
lotuspsychjedont participate myself18:47
bittinsame only saw it on the Fridge Calendar18:47
bittinbut people are 20 minutes late, so guess it might be canceled18:47
tomreynthey hold their meetings in their -desktop channel: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-07-30-13.34.moin.txt18:48
tomreynit took place some hours ago18:48
bittintomreyn: ah guess my Google Calender import imported it the wrong timezone or they moved it then oh well thanks18:48
bittintomreyn: lotuspsychje: Watching Macbreak Weekly now, but bookmarked to read later18:49
tomreynbittin: yw. their previous meeting (last week) took place around the same time of day.18:50
immuwhat kernel version are they tracking for 19.1018:56
sarnoldversion '5.2.0-9.10' is in -proposed18:56
immuanyplace where we can track development of 19.1018:57
lotuspsychjeimmu: nacc already told you18:57
lotuspsychjeimmu: did you forget already?18:57
immuthe channel18:58
lotuspsychjeyes18:58
immuyeah i joined that18:58
immui meant like a website?18:58
lotuspsychjeimmu: the schedule is in the topic18:58
immulotuspsychje, thanks done18:59
immusorry for the trouble the excitment gets me sometimes19:00
sarnoldimmu: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/eoan-changes/19:00
immuthanks sarnold19:01
lotuspsychjeimmu: planning to install at release?19:02
immuyup lotuspsychje q19:02
lotuspsychjecool19:02
immuu lotuspsychje19:03
lotuspsychjeimmu: we have alot of 19.10 testers already saying it works like a charm on 5.219:05
EoflaOEI am doing 19.10 on both my old PC and a vm in a new one19:05
lotuspsychjehows your finding EoflaOE ?19:05
EoflaOElotuspsychje: I found one issue related to "Show Details" about Firefox that says "Unable to find firefox.desktop"19:06
lotuspsychjeEoflaOE: think i saw a bug on that19:07
lotuspsychjeor was that yours?19:07
EoflaOElotuspsychje: I have reported it to Launchpad.19:07
lotuspsychjeah right, thats why :p19:08
EoflaOEYes.19:09
lotuspsychjeEoflaOE: did it get confirmed yet?19:09
EoflaOElotuspsychje: Looking at the bug report and coming back.19:09
lotuspsychje!info firefox ermine19:10
ubot5'ermine' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed19:10
lotuspsychje68.0.1+build1-0ubuntu219:10
EoflaOElotuspsychje: The status of my bug report is confirmed.19:12
lotuspsychjecool19:12
EoflaOESo the bug affected multiple users. And it's confirmed. Thanks19:13
lotuspsychjewhats the ID again EoflaOE ?19:13
EoflaOEID: eofla | Name: EoflaOE19:14
daftykinsbug number19:14
tomreynbug 183739219:14
ubot5bug 1837392 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) ""unable to find firefox.desktop" when clicking "Show Details" on the Firefox menu (top)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183739219:14
lotuspsychjetnx :p19:14
EoflaOElotuspsychje: You are welcome19:14
lotuspsychjeEoflaOE: did you test this on other packages like #2 says, vlc for example?19:15
EoflaOElotuspsychje: Currently not, since I didn't install affected packages yet.19:16
lotuspsychjekk19:16
lotuspsychjeEoflaOE: just tested on a VM19:19
lotuspsychjealso affected here19:19
EoflaOElotuspsychje: With which apps?19:19
lotuspsychjeEoflaOE: well its on a live, just tested FF19:19
lotuspsychjelets cee others19:19
lotuspsychje*see19:19
EoflaOElotuspsychje: OK, return me a list of affected packages when finished.19:20
lotuspsychjeEoflaOE: thunderbird also not19:23
EoflaOElotuspsychje: Then there is a problem on Ubuntu Software (gnome-software) then.19:24
lotuspsychjeEoflaOE: livepatch, same19:26
EoflaOElotuspsychje: OK. Any other packages like GIMP?19:27
lotuspsychjeEoflaOE: im on a live19:28
EoflaOElotuspsychje: OK.19:29
lotuspsychjemy gnome seems not to like gnome-boxes too much lol19:33
lotuspsychjefreezes the vm after a while19:34
EoflaOElotuspsychje: Is this considered a bug?19:35
lotuspsychjenot sure yet, think things went better when i actually installed 19.10 in gnome-boxes, not as a live19:36
EoflaOElotuspsychje: OK. I will test Ubuntu Budgie 19.10 on a second VM on my new PC and see if there are bugs.19:38
EoflaOEHello Bashing-om20:16
Bashing-omEoflaOE: Good day to you :)20:17
EoflaOEBashing-om: Thanks. How is your day?20:18
Bashing-omEoflaOE: Well - considering our house electric situation - and no AC and the heat of summer and my COPD condition -- So long as I can irc, not to shabby at all :P20:20
EoflaOEBashing-om: OK. In the morning in my timezone, the electricity kept going on/off from 10:00 AM until 11AM20:21
EoflaOEOn 10 min, Off 15 min, on 5 min, and so on...20:22
Bashing-omEoflaOE: Majorpain . ^ happend here I have to go and re-do my bios settings as all reverts back to defaults.20:29
EoflaOEBashing-om: I usually plug off both my PCs on the night and replug them on the morning. When the electricity is gone, both PCs survive, and won't reset anything in the BIOS to defaults.20:30
Bashing-omEoflaOE: I get the house fuse tomorrow - then see what all the damage from low voltage is :(20:34
EoflaOEBashing-om: Do you have voltage regulator? I have one.20:35
Bashing-omEoflaOE: Battewry died in my UPS - have not replaced it to this time .20:38
EoflaOEBashing-om: When you can, replace.20:38
Bashing-omEoflaOE: That is the plan :)20:41
EoflaOEBashing-om: OK.20:42

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