[01:21] <ubptgbot> Chispasxdbot was added by: Chispasxdbot
[01:21] <ubptgbot> Adrianjm_98 was added by: Adrianjm_98
 what is this bot?
[01:47] <ubptgbot> <C R> @mateosalta [its android. but one of the intresting things is they are doing some kind of aut …], I think.what we could do is to create more intense cache process (storing the actual ) HTML and basic images of the website. Pretty much you install the web app,  the first you run it is super slow (the cache process ).next time only. Have to.loa
[01:47] <ubptgbot> d the changes like mpg video where the data written is only the changes in the image and skips the file.that are the same.
[01:49] <ubptgbot> <C R> The cache could.even update on the background at nigth when the phone is plugged
 or bit by bit while browsing the site
[01:49] <ubptgbot> <C R> Is only 1 well.written app and the it would do the same for each website
[01:51] <ubptgbot> <C R> If we do it while browsing it would.impact.the.user experience,  but the.first time would.definetly.be like that
 here are some links i was looking at at one time
 Fwd from mateosalta: https://forum.qt.io/topic/83205/qml-webview-load-page-from-cache
 Fwd from mateosalta: http://blog.qt.io/blog/2011/04/29/http-caching-with-qt/
 Fwd from mateosalta: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qnetworkdiskcache.html
 if only someone implemented PWAs
 chromium already does caching
 you might be able to ship an initial state with the webapp
[01:54] <ubptgbot> <C R> For example a news app the phone could.load a portion of the.site at nigth, when you read it in the.morning is.already. there no.internet needed
[01:54] <ubptgbot> <C R> A web crawler would.do the job
 puffin is not doing anything magical. it's simply relying on the PWA support android already has in chrome
[01:54] <ubptgbot> <C R> @mateosalta [you might be able to ship an initial state with the webapp], Exactly
 the offline service worker works - but you cant put that in an allready existing website
 like this site: https://wiki-offline.jakearchibald.com/
 @C R [For example a news app the phone could.load a portion of the.site at nigth, when …], deferred loading isn't terribly helpful though. news will be outdated by the time you're on the train
[01:56] <ubptgbot> <C R> @dohbee [puffin is not doing anything magical. it's simply relying on the PWA support and …], That why.we don't. need to re invent the wheel it just aplying knowledge that is there just not implemented on ubuntu
 people don't want to only read the twitter/whatsapp/etc posts from last night on their way to school/work/whatever
[01:57] <ubptgbot> <C R> @dohbee [people don't want to only read the twitter/whatsapp/etc posts from last night on …], Is a concept,  having lastnight info.means you only have download today's
[01:57] <ubptgbot> <C R> Less bandwidth
[01:57] <ubptgbot> <C R> Faster
 you're making an assumption that web sites are already developed to work in that manner though
 for a native app where you can control things on the client and use an API to get data, that's more doable
 for web sites, it is not necessarily the case
 ad blockers, and visual noise blockers, make sites faster too
 uadblock :)
 @C R [Is a concept,  having lastnight info.means you only have download today's], plus will not completly blank out, if you hit a low signal area, and navigate
 @mateosalta [plus will not completly blank out, if you hit a low signal area, and navigate], i wouldn't make such assumptions about the code of others :)
[02:05] <ubptgbot> <C R> @mateosalta [plus will not completly blank out, if you hit a low signal area, and navigate], Exactly, Easy to.implement is not,  but it migth worth to.experiment with the idea
 @dohbee [i wouldn't make such assumptions about the code of others :)], I'm talking about loading parts of a site in advance - so that you can load locally the main ui - and store what you are looking at, not something on the server side
 @mateosalta [I'm talking about loading parts of a site in advance - so that you can load loca …], i know what you are talking about. that's not how the web works though.
 so if you hit a link not loaded, you can hit back, and that will load from your cache
 @mateosalta [so if you hit a link not loaded, you can hit back, and that will load from your …], that should already be happening
[02:08] <ubptgbot> <C R> When I see a wall I look for the stairs,  I don't.look at the wall that won't. take the other side
 search ddg -> click link -> turn on airport mode -> click back
 @mateosalta [search ddg -> click link -> turn on airport mode -> click back], congrats, you found a bug in morph?
 yeah, seems to not load anything from cache?
 i don't know. my nexus 5 has no network at all, so it can't load anything from anywhere :P
 :)
 but i mean, this is basically something chrom{e,ium} has been doing for a decade. it keeps near pages cached in memory and simply swaps out what is displayed. that was one of the tricks it originally was doing to be "the faster browser"
 hm, yeah. works on my desktop browsers. wonder if this is one of those flags - or perhaps the network error page is set to interupt instead of loading the recently cached page
 I think we want that, useful for switching between networks, or a slight dead spot
[02:20] <ubptgbot> pillsmansion was added by: pillsmansion
 @mateosalta [hm, yeah. works on my desktop browsers. wonder if this is one of those flags - o …], doubt a flag. it's a UI side implementation thing
 but doing it is problematic on lower powered devices too, as web views eat memory
 @ruedigerkupper [Yes, I know and supporting this would be a huge improvement. I agree this is the …], actually firefox doesn't store your passwords on a server
 @dohbee [if only someone implemented PWAs], what can pwas do that current webapps can't? except for notifs and camera access hmmm
 Another app in the same browser does not magically get more features
 uhhh hmmm
 Hello ! How can I install the yumi sticker pack that was mentioned in the Q&A 55?
 search for a post with a sticker from that pack in the group, right click, add.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/49crSGwR.webp
 [Edit] search for a post with a sticker from that pack in the group, click, add.
[07:18] <ubptgbot> Dago 1 was added by: Dago 1
 Grazie ! It is really simple 👍🙂
[07:38] <ubptgbot> BaHKoTo was added by: BaHKoTo
[08:51] <ubptgbot> <Dago 1> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/pC1Hf6Zx.webp
 @TotalSonic [seeing junk like that put out as an "alternative" definitely makes me even more …], I agree...
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/kh0BDlUj.webp
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/YrHRH2rZ.webp
 oops
 is there a way install wicker app on ubuntu touch?
 allso are those telegram and protonmail apps being updated and by who they are made if not official.
[11:24] <ubptgbot> Cyjan was added by: Cyjan
 Hey!
 Hi :)
 I've joined here to get mental and spiritual support because I decided to flash my redmi note 4 to Ubuntu touch. Wish me luck
 You'll need more than luck, you'll need to port that device first 😉
 @advocatux [You'll need more than luck, you'll need to port that device first 😉], I know :]
 Ok, good luck then :)
 Thanks ^^
 https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/71
 @Cyjan [I've joined here to get mental and spiritual support because I decided to flash …], Hahahaha
 @advocatux [https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/71], Thank you ✌️
 @Volfoni [Hello! I got two personalized wallpapers on my Aquaris M10 FHD that I can't remo …], Anyone??
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/aajg3B8C.png
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/1q0T1CYN.png
 What would you say if we could have another fingerprint
 I'd say I don't like fingerprint systems at all but maybe that's only me :)
 Ok
 Its work
 In xenial UT
 Apparently
 @Sconio [Its work], how is that? Do you own a Meizu Pro 5? Are you referring to the script which manually allows you to bring back that functionality for the MP5?
 @advocatux [I'd say I don't like fingerprint systems at all but maybe that's only me :)], I don't know, having some alternative fingerprints to use every now and then could be useful. 😂
 @GTAHTI [allso are those telegram and protonmail apps being updated and by who they are m …], What do you mean?
 @advocatux [I'd say I don't like fingerprint systems at all but maybe that's only me :)], I'm only experiencing fingerprint for real on my HTC 10 and I'd say it's definitely more convenient than passwords/passcodes/patterns 😁
 well not having a passphrase is more convenient too
 @GTAHTI [is there a way install wicker app on ubuntu touch?], i don't know what that is. if it's open though, or usable via web, you are welcome to develop an app or create a webapp package for it
 @GTAHTI [allso are those telegram and protonmail apps being updated and by who they are m …], `Telegram (unofficial)` is deprecated and being replaced by `TELEports`. The webapps are just fancy bookmarks. Protonmail is a webapp.
 @advocatux - hi mate have sent pm re what we spoke about couple of days back re emacs. Thanks.
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 @dohbee [I don't know, having some alternative fingerprints to use every now and then cou …], lol
 @judicialdomicide [@advocatux - hi mate have sent pm re what we spoke about couple of days back re …], Reading it now :)
 @Sconio [What would you say if we could have another fingerprint], you can allready right?
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/3JurousG.png
 @mateosalta [you can allready right?], not officially
 yes, you can break your rootfs and install some old packages from 15.04, which are not supported, and theoretically have fingerprint work again
 the mechinicasm to add more than one exists is what i mean
 oh, sure
 yeah - if you have working fingerprint. ;)
[14:21] <ubptgbot> André was added by: André
 @Chispasxdbot [Chispasxdbot was added by: dohbee], @advocatux @UniversalSuperBox @wayneoutthere ^^ i don't think we want such things in here, do we?
 Well, honestly anyone in the room could be a user bot without us knowing it
 But given it's named with spanix expletives I'll remove it. Maybe the owner will say something.
 spanish
 Don't know where that came from
 spanix is a new linux distro?
 :)
 WE FOUND THE NEW NAME GUIS
 @Chispasxdbot please, can you change your alias? Thank you :)
 (Photo, 1280x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/5606cA8h.png This neither :[
 all i see is glare
 but if you have questions about building halium, i'd suggest joining https://t.me/halium :)
[14:33] <Cyjan> Already googled it and found solution
 @advocatux [@Chispasxdbot please, can you change your alias? Thank you :)], @Adrianjm_98 seems to be the owner
 Also be sure to read over the "Getting help" section of http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html and https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html, @Cyjan
[14:34] <Cyjan> Thanks! I'll take a look
 Hi, does the UBPorts installer only work one time? I’m trying to reinstall nexus 5 using UBports install but stuck at “please reboot to bootloader” hold down volume down and power but phone is in bootloader and status unlocked. Tried closing and doing again same thing tried different cable same thing? Anyone got any suggestions o
[14:36] <ubptgbot> n how to reinstall?
 [Edit] Hi, does the UBPorts installer only work one time? I’m trying to reinstall nexus 5 using UBports installer but stuck at “please reboot to bootloader” hold down volume down and power but phone is in bootloader and status unlocked. Tried closing and doing again same thing tried different cable same thing? Anyone got any sugg
[14:36] <ubptgbot> estions on how to reinstall?
 you can use ADB to reboot to the bootloader
 @judicialdomicide [Hi, does the UBPorts installer only work one time? I’m trying to reinstall nexus …], is phone visible with "fastboot devices" ?
 I’m fairly new to this but no is the answer. Fastboot devices returns nothing in terminal
 @judicialdomicide [I’m fairly new to this but no is the answer. Fastboot devices returns nothing in …], Same Here ✋
 make sure cable is good and everything; if `fastboot devices` won't show the device while at bootloader screen, installer won't see it either. same for `adb devices` when in recovery or booted with developer mode enabled
 also check `dmesg` when you connect the device to make sure the PC sees it (and thus your cable isn't the problem)
 @Tea [Same Here ✋], phone is frozen after *successfull* install
 (assuming you're running on linux here)
 Yup
 Then run `sudo fastboot devices` for good measure too
 [Edit] @Chispasxdbot please, can you change your username? Thank you :)
 If your device is at the "dead Android" bootloader screen (or the waving Yumi if the installer already happened) and plugged in, `fastboot` will see it.
 USB cables fail pretty easily, we've had people go through 10 or more
 To find one good onw
 some distros are missing appropriate udev rules and permissions configurations too, so yeah, sometimes `sudo` is necessary
 @Sconio [What would you say if we could have another fingerprint], I was able to get my fingerprint reader on my Meizu Pro 5 by following the instructions at https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/396 - just scroll down to find an sh script you need to run - it works well after that
 @Tea [phone is frozen after *successfull* install], If it said successful first boot takes a long time
 @Sconio [What would you say if we could have another fingerprint], [Edit] I was able to get my fingerprint reader on my Meizu Pro 5 working by following the instructions at https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/396 - just scroll down to find an sh script you need to run - it works well after that
 @UniversalSuperBox [USB cables fail pretty easily, we've had people go through 10 or more], I recommend Anker usb cables. They have yet to let me down.
 i'm not sure if i've ever actually had a usb cable fail as such; but then again in only use them to connect devices via usb, and not for other activities
[15:16] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @UniversalSuperBox [Don't know where that came from], He joined under 2 usernames at the same time. Doesn't look like a bot from the bio. Not a nice name though.
[15:25] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [i'm not sure if i've ever actually had a usb cable fail as such; but then again …], We used to go through a lot when we were getting 65 cent cheapos at the dime store. Since switching to the $4 to $5 range, we've only had two go out, usually to the kids not handling them properly, mostly used for charging only. Had a few us
[15:25] <ubptgbot> b ports go bad too. Probably for the same reason, but one cell shop tech told me that the cheapo usb cables also damage the ports.
[15:26] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [i'm not sure if i've ever actually had a usb cable fail as such; but then again …], [Edit] We used to go through a lot when we were getting 65 cent cheapos at the dime store. Since switching to the $4 to $5 range, we've only had two go out, usually due to the kids not handling them properly, mostly used for charging only. H
[15:26] <ubptgbot> ad a few usb ports go bad too. Probably for the same reason, but one cell shop tech told me that the cheapo usb cables also damage the ports.
[15:26] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @dohbee [i'm not sure if i've ever actually had a usb cable fail as such; but then again …], [Edit] We used to go through a lot when we were getting 65 cent cheapos at the dime store. Since switching to the $4 to $5 range, we've only had two go out, usually due to the kids not handling them properly, mostly used for charging only. H
[15:26] <ubptgbot> ad a few usb ports go bad too. Probably for the same reason, but one cell repair shop tech told me that the cheapo usb cables also damage the ports.
 @mateosalta [If it said successful first boot takes a long time], Well...read about that, yes..... … But certainly not 14+ hours
 @Tea [Well...read about that, yes..... … But certainly not 14+ hours], Thats a brick
 No, it's not. The device still boots to bootloader
 Hi, is the critical bug for the M10HD still pausing the latest RC?
 yes
 M10 (F)HD, BQ E4.5 and E5
 Ok thanks Sir.
 Understood.
 Are the BQ's a large part of the user base?
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/AnWYl8y1.jpeg
 @Tea [Well...read about that, yes..... … But certainly not 14+ hours], true
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/NBD5Jpqp.webp
 @Cyjan [<reply to media>], what.. is made?  :)
 I figure if Tygerpro is pumped it's a port?
 Thats what Im presuming, Ive been banging my head on the wall trying to find a AOSP port for the snapdragon variant of my galaxy note 8, Ive been seeing all exynos versions
 Well. Ok. Whatever you do, do it with passion.
 Im about ready to give up for now and see about getting the exynos variant and see if I can get that to port
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Tygerpro [Im about ready to give up for now and see about getting the exynos variant and s …], Exynos is slower, isn't it?
 @wayneoutthere [what.. is made?  :)], Halium ^^ installing Ubuntu touch now :D
 Yeah, by like .03GHz iirc, but theres no known unlock for the snapdragon bootloader Nd the methods for Custom ROMs that do exist are for older boot loaders
[16:55] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> I wasn't thinking of GHz so much as less powerful cpu.
 what bootloader does it use?
 @John (Marlin) [I wasn't thinking of GHz so much as less powerful cpu.], well "less powerful" is a very loaded term.
[16:56] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> I haven't seen benchmarks.
 and irrelevant for wanting to port UT really
[16:57] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> UT does seem like a light OS for older phones. No lag on my Nexus 5 at all.
 @Cyjan [Halium ^^ installing Ubuntu touch now :D], woooooooah! that *is* something
 @dohbee [what bootloader does it use?], The note 8? Its whatever Samsung decided to put on there, on my snapdragon variant its fully locked, and as far as I can tell Samsung isnt gonna release an unlocker, and no one has been able to unlock it
 @Tygerpro [The note 8? Its whatever Samsung decided to put on there, on my snapdragon varia …], the option isn't in developer settings?
 Not even listed on snapdragon, it is listed on exynos
 huh
 I know, its weird, the exynos has a OEM unlock in developer settings, the snapdragon doesnt, I just double checked
 @wayneoutthere [woooooooah! that *is* something], Yea:D hope it won't break my phone ;p
 I recommend soothing classical guitar music when you do it.
 like Leonard Cohen?
 Laughing Lenny.
 Guysss
 @wayneoutthere [I recommend soothing classical guitar music when you do it.], Okey hehe
 But i have problem :|
 Where is halium-boot.img located
 :|
 I found only hybris-boot.img but I bet it's not what I need
 Oney
 [Edit] Okey
 Nvm
 Figured it out
 Undo
 Still not figured it oit
 [Edit] Still not figured it out
 Did you build halium-boot
 I think so :|
 @Cyjan [I found only hybris-boot.img but I bet it's not what I need], I'll send this to boot
 Hope it will work
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 Read over that section again, make sure it's built
 And @ubports_porting has the topic that you're probably looking for
 Okey thanks!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/kHUqQYkc.null
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/dc1K6IVH.null
 @mateosalta [<reply to media>], ...
 sudo chmod +x fingerprint.sh … sudo ./fingerprint.sh … by Ruben,
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/AUYeO0Dd.png
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/64jwJhiT.png
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/VaKbXEb1.png
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/DMiEqU4h.png
 Thankx Ruben
 Awesome indeed!
 :+)
 Nice wok !
 [Edit] Thank You @rubencarneiro
 Work perfectly
 Is was not by me
 nice.... that's something indeed! today is national "Day of Something"
 It was from github discussion
 But i think is not a viable solution, since it uses vivid packages because gcc etc.
 Better solution was compile the biometry blob
 To work on 16.04
 @rubencarneiro [Better solution was compile the biometry blob], which we can't do. better solution would be to find a way to get it working via open source methods using hybris
 @dohbee [which we can't do. better solution would be to find a way to get it working via …], Yes write a new api to work with bionic was better
 For now this ia just a hack
 The credits goes to AlainW94 on github issue.
 It's good enough to be able to use it, thank you very much.
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/396
[20:00] <Cyjan> Hey.. I think that I have problem :| I can't connect to helium over ssh, but i did it over telnet
[20:00] <Cyjan> But still it's not what I want because it's just not working :|
[20:16] <Cyjan> I'll end up flashing TWRP (again!) for today... :[
 Is the rc channel somewhat stable for daily use?
 yes
 @judicialdomicide [Is the rc channel somewhat stable for daily use?], Yes - I have been using RC on my daily driver for over 6 months now with no problems due to it.
 I use RC on my daily driver as well 👌
[21:18] <flaburgan> hi everyone
[21:18] <flaburgan> can anyone tell me where I can find applications logs?
[21:18] <flaburgan> signal is now crashing immediately when started
 under `~/.cache/upstart/` directory
[21:30] <flaburgan> thx
[21:30] <flaburgan> wow, my terminal has a weird behavior when tabbing to autocomplete application-click-textsecure.nanuc_textsecure_ 0.4.1.log
[21:31] <flaburgan> it breaks on the _ and continue writing on the *exact same line* so where my prompt is
[21:31] <flaburgan> okay so it looks like I have my error:
[21:31] <flaburgan> 2019/07/31 23:17:44 .:0: error calling result "An AppArmor policy prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient; type=\"method_call\", sender=\":1.249\" (uid=32011 pid=32533 comm=\"textsecure \") interface=\"com.canonical.libertine.Service.Operations\" member=\"list\" error name=\"(unset)\" requested_reply=\"0\" destination=\"com.canonical.libertine.Service\" (uid=32011 pid=4114 comm=\"/usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/libertined \")"
[21:33] <flaburgan> I don't remember touching anything related to apparmor
 ignore apparmor messages about libertine. they are not fatal, and not related
[21:38] <flaburgan> hm
[21:38] <flaburgan> so the crash message is not here?
[21:38] <flaburgan> I setup a libertine container, just to have one and see if it changes anything
[21:38] <flaburgan> I never played with libertine and am curious
 well it may not necessarily be crashing. but i'd have to see the whole log before i could say anything
 if the app simply fails to start or just exits, it might look like a crash, but it isn't. the splash screen is not part of the app itself, but implemented in the shell side
[21:44] <flaburgan> @dohbee the app was working well until one or 2 days ago
[21:44] <flaburgan> and wasn't updated
 ok. well the apparmor message is surely not the entire content of the app's log is it?
 you can also check `unity8.log` to see if anything is there about the app exiting and such
[21:47] <flaburgan> the full log is there: https://github.com/nanu-c/textsecure-qml/issues/67
[21:48] <flaburgan> unity8.log is empty since that morning, even if I had a unity restart writing a text message a few hours ago
[21:48] <flaburgan> no wait, it's just that less isn't working well
 the log is cutoff in that issue
[21:49] <flaburgan> I should copy the log file on my computer and read them from there
[21:51] <flaburgan> yeah that's way better, sorry to be noobish here
 are you reading via adb?
[21:52] <flaburgan> I updated the github issue
[21:52] <flaburgan> yes
[21:52] <flaburgan> can I ssh to the device?
[21:52] <flaburgan> I'm way more used to that
 oh yeah, adb is not a real terminal
 you can enable ssh and then use ssh yes
[21:52] <flaburgan> though I guess a ssh server on a phone isn't very secure
[21:53] <flaburgan> but so cool to do
[21:53] <flaburgan> how can I do that
 @flaburgan [though I guess a ssh server on a phone isn't very secure], it's secure enough. doesn't accept password, or root by default, and doesn't bind to the ril, only wifi (and it can be routed over adb too)
 @flaburgan [how can I do that], http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/ssh.html
[21:54] <flaburgan> panic: runtime error: invalid memory address or nil pointer dereference
[21:54] <flaburgan> [signal SIGSEGV: segmentation violation code=0x1 addr=0x8 pc=0x391c44]
[21:54] <flaburgan> looks like we have our crash log, btw :p
 yep, that's a panic
[21:55] <flaburgan> sudo android-gadget-service enable ssh
[21:55] <flaburgan> this was the command I didn't know
[21:55] <flaburgan> I know nothing about android
[21:57] <flaburgan> signal is an application updated very often, and is a security application
[21:58] <flaburgan> I guess I shouldn't run an app which doesn't have enough resources to be built
[21:58] <flaburgan> unfortunately...
[21:59] <flaburgan> can I run the apk with anbox?
[21:59] <flaburgan> is anbox running on UT now?
 maybe, but many things won't work
 anbox is still super experimental
[21:59] <flaburgan> http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html
[21:59] <flaburgan> I should RTFM :p
[22:01] <flaburgan> wow, I need to reboot to the bootloader to install it? Oo
 you need to flash a new kernel yes
 it is experimental
[22:08] <flaburgan> ok
[22:08] <flaburgan> let's have fun
[22:08] <flaburgan> 43 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
[22:08] <flaburgan> wow, looks like I find more updates with apt-get than with the gui
[22:09] <flaburgan> should I do those upgrades?
[22:09] <flaburgan> there is unity8 in them
 no
 apt upgrading is not supported
[22:12] <flaburgan> okay
[22:12] <flaburgan> well... my device is full
[22:13] <flaburgan> I tried to add a libertine container, and now I have 0 free space on /
[22:13] <flaburgan> in "managing container" I don't have any option to delete it
 libertine doesn't take space on / at all
[22:13] <flaburgan> (thank you so much for helping me @dohbee, I'm learning so many things!)
 rootfs is already "full" as shipped
[22:14] <flaburgan> oh? Then it has been fulled by something else
[22:15] <flaburgan> E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[22:15] <flaburgan> this is the error I have when trying to install anbox
[22:15] <flaburgan> "something" filled the phone for sure
[22:15] <flaburgan> df -h: /dev/loop0                      2.0G  1.9G     0 100% /
 the apt cache is
 you can bind mount a dir from a writable location on top of `/var/cache/apt` though
[22:17] <flaburgan> sudo apt clean freed 57M
[22:17] <flaburgan> can I apt install ncdu?
 as i said, apt is not supported
[22:18] <flaburgan> hm... but the tuto for anbox is using apt install anbox-ubuntu-touch
[22:18] <flaburgan> okay nevermind I'll just trust you :p
 yes, for a very specific thing. general install of things from apt is not supported
[22:19] <flaburgan> ok
[22:21] <flaburgan> how can I make some space for the installation to succeed?
 `mkdir -p /home/phablet/apt && sudo mount --bind /home/phablet/apt /var/cache/apt && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install anbox-ubuntu-touch`
[22:30] <flaburgan> is there a way to ssh over usb instead of WiFi?
[22:39] <flaburgan> did I miss something, or http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html#how-to-install-new-apks makes me install adb *on the device itself*?
[22:40] <flaburgan> because (obviously?) adb devices answer "error: device not found"
[22:48] <flaburgan> I added FP2 hardware ID
[22:48] <flaburgan> but that doesn't change anything, the device can't find itself
[23:04] <flaburgan> still no success
[23:04] <flaburgan> I found this thread but it doesn't contain a solution https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26782856/using-adb-locally-on-device-loopback-shows-no-devices
[23:05] <flaburgan> I'll try again tomorrow
[23:05] <flaburgan> good night everyone
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