[03:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T91: Update mimeapps.list] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T91#1601
[03:32] <wxl> ^^ @guiverc2 since i know you have tons of hardware around, you might be able to help with the things requiring an optical drive, ,though i'm not sure if you've got all the blank media, especially hddvd and bd!
 "Username @guiverc2 not found"
[03:33] <wxl> shush
[03:33] <guiverc2> hddvd & blueray no sorry.. just found a ton of blank CDr's so got heaps of them for testing... :)
[03:34] <guiverc2> i do have cd/dvd though
[03:37] <wxl> ok so it IS a blue ray https://reposcope.com/mimetype/x-content/blank-bd
[03:40] <wxl> and yep hddvd is hd dvd https://reposcope.com/mimetype/x-content/blank-hddvd
[03:40]  * guiverc2 reading t91 now.. guess I'll find it if the dvd on this box still actually works (or at least fools k3b)
[03:42] <wxl> i don't see application/x-iso here but like @kc2bez, maybe not supported https://reposcope.com/package/shared-mime-info
[03:42] <wxl> and the only pdf is application/pdf
[03:44] <kc2bez> I may have been a little over zealous with my inclusiveness. 
[03:45] <kc2bez> Those mimetypes do exist in the desktop files. 
[03:46] <wxl> asking on #flatpak on that one
[03:47] <kc2bez> If you think I should drop any of those just let me know. 
[03:47] <wxl> btw overzealous is better than under
[03:48] <kc2bez> That was my thought at the time. 
[04:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T91: Update mimeapps.list] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T91#1602
[04:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T91: Update mimeapps.list] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T91#1603
[04:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T91: Update mimeapps.list] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T91#1604
[04:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T91: Update mimeapps.list] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T91#1605
[04:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T91: Update mimeapps.list] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T91#1606
[04:26] <kc2bez> wxl: I am glad I am not the only one who is tired. XD
[04:26] <kc2bez> I really do appreciate your testing. 
[04:27] <wxl> np
[04:27] <wxl> at least we know we got it right!
[09:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1607
 usb-creator SRUs look done :)
 yay
[09:44] <guiverc2> HMollerCL, wxl, re: prior support discussion on #lubuntu - https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1735
[09:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] Tj (Tj) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1608
[10:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1609
[10:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] Tj (Tj) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1610
 wxl: papirus-icon-theme won't add the icons https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-icon-theme/issues/1835
 we could forge them or add the ones we need in ~./icons
 the other option is to change the .desktop to force them to use other icons
[17:25] <wxl> guiverc2: i'm excited about the positive response you're seeing on that upstream issue. sometimes things don't happen that way.
[17:26] <wxl> @HMollerCl so i guess we're back to trying to figure out how to override.. and make sure it doesn't affect the file manager
[17:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T91: Update mimeapps.list] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T91#1612
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl so i guess we're back to trying to figure out how to override.. …], it doesn't override the file manager because we use 22x22 in file manager. It could override some context menu (example, all the about in the apps use help-about icon, same that lxqt about uses) but I haven't found any other at the moment. Tha
[17:31] <wxl> but how would we do that without affecting non lubuntu users?
 with OnlyShowIn and NotShowIn?
[17:33] <wxl> that would mean the desktop doesn't appear in the menu
 like /usr/share/applications/software-properties-lxqt.desktop
 which has: OnlyShowIn=LXQt;
[17:35] <wxl> yes but that's part of the package
[17:35] <wxl> there are non-lubuntu users that might use the package that want it in the menu
 mi idea is to have 2 .desktop files
 one for us with OnlyShowIn=LXQt; and one for the others with NotShowIn=LXQt;
 Other option is via xdg put a .desktop in ~/.local/share/applications
 with the same name but other Icon=
[17:38] <wxl> that is a more plausible option
 the only issue with changing .desktop is that it affects all/any icon-theme
 but honestly, a scanner app, a printer app, should an app icon, not a "device" icon
[17:41] <wxl> well you could always argue on the issue. that's not totally unreasonable.
 ok, I will move forward with that solution then.
[17:43] <wxl> @tsimonq2: do you have any input on this?
[17:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#1614
[17:59] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Bionic 18.04.3] (20190801) has been added
[17:59] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Bionic 18.04.3] (20190801) has been added
[17:59] <wxl> oh is that a thing already?
[18:04] <wxl> everyone and especially guiverc2 (tester extraordinaire), 18.04.3 is available now for testing. if you could hit it hard, especially on hardware, that would be great. plan is to have it released in a week (next thursday)
[18:21] <kc2bez> O hai
[18:21] <kc2bez> I can bust out my 32 bit potato
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: do you have any input on this?], Not particularly
[19:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9c6211c4c9a4: Add link to startup disk creator now that SRU is done] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9c6211c4c9a4
[20:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T58: consider minimal install] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T58#1616
[20:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> !standup
[20:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> 0/
[20:38] <wxl> it is Thu Aug 1 20:38:11 UTC 2019
[20:38] <wxl> tl;dr you're early
 I did some Phab maintenance, worked with apt-ghetto and Dan on various packaging things, not much for me this week
[20:39] <apt-ghetto> if [ The_LoudSpeaker && !standup]; then sleep 30m; fi
[20:39] <wxl> ^^ that
 XD
[20:39] <wxl> you're too early @tsimonq2 but bonus points for showing up. wow.
[20:39] <apt-ghetto> +1 ^^
[20:39] <The_LoudSpeaker> Ohh! Didn't know. This was the reason I asked last time was I half hour early? 
[20:39] <wxl> it's like a brand new age
[20:40] <wxl> The_LoudSpeaker: `date -u`
[20:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: ??
 He doesn't want to date you, he wants to `date -u`
[20:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> I got that but what does date -u mean?
[20:43] <wxl> run it and find out
[20:43] <wxl> or read the manpage
[20:43] <lynorian> it shows the time and date in UTC
[20:43] <wxl> i'll give you a clue: it's relevant
[20:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> Not on pc rn. Will do later.
[21:00] <The_LoudSpeaker> 0/
 now its time
[21:00] <apt-ghetto> \O
[21:00] <lynorian> \o
[21:01] <kc2bez> o|
 -o__/
[21:01] <wxl> anyone else?
[21:02] <wxl> ok then let's do it
[21:02] <wxl> raman you're up
[21:03] <wxl> The_LoudSpeaker: !
 @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> if [ The_LoudSpeaker && !standup]; then sleep 30m; fi], print(m)
[21:05] <wxl> ok we're skipping him
[21:05] <wxl> apt-ghetto: go
[21:06] <apt-ghetto> I have fixed some minor issues on ci.lubuntu.me
[21:06] <apt-ghetto> Trojita fails to build on ppc64el (I did not investigate further)
[21:06] <apt-ghetto> lxqt-archiver fails in stable branch because of agaida (I guess)
[21:06] <apt-ghetto> libfm-qt in disco unstable fails to build because i messed up the symbols (not a compiler issue, but I don't understand why)
[21:06] <apt-ghetto> I guess @RikMills is not so happy with the CI and symbols-fixing solution, on the other hand it is a good playground to fail and learn
[21:06] <apt-ghetto> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90 is in the pipeline and should be released next week
[21:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Bionic locker should be light-locker: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90
[21:06] <wxl> actually perhaps this week
[21:07]  * guiverc2 walks in room
[21:07] <apt-ghetto> I have opened upstream issues for https://phab.lubuntu.me/T85 and https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87
[21:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Set GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR correctly: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T85
[21:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87
[21:07] <apt-ghetto> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1209
[21:07] <apt-ghetto> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1201
[21:07] <apt-ghetto> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1203 because of launchpad bug 1827501
[21:07] <apt-ghetto> And today calamares accepted my PR for https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1198
[21:07] <wxl> no, you're right. next week
[21:07] <apt-ghetto> That's from my side
[21:08] <wxl> nice work! an upstream pr, too!!
[21:08] <apt-ghetto> Yeah, I am also a bit proud
[21:08] <kc2bez> Excellent!
[21:08] <wxl> you can put that on your draft developer application
[21:08] <wxl> you do have one, right?
[21:08] <wxl> *AHEM*
[21:08] <wxl> lynorian: go
[21:08] <kc2bez> ^
[21:09] <apt-ghetto> Then I have to start my draft soon, so I will not forget it, when I apply next year
[21:09] <lynorian> Add link to command line tutorail 
[21:09] <lynorian> Way more bluetooth stuff 
[21:09] <lynorian> hyphenation in lowriter
[21:09] <lynorian> widow/orphan control of lowriter
[21:09] <lynorian> styles in lowriter
[21:09] <lynorian> show installed fiels in muon
[21:09] <lynorian> more package filtering in muon
[21:09] <lynorian> work on deleting things in session settings and checkbox wait for tray
[21:09] <lynorian> brightness now has multimonitor
[21:09] <lynorian> && and | in cli tutorial
[21:09] <wxl> oo bluetooth
[21:09] <lynorian> link to startup disk creator to create usb in chapter 1.2
[21:09] <lynorian> this is it for this week
[21:09] <wxl> yay on usb-creator, too!
[21:09] <lynorian> yes
[21:10] <wxl> kc2bez go
[21:10] <kc2bez> Took a (too) short vacation the tail end of last week.
[21:10] <kc2bez> Tasks.
[21:10] <kc2bez> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T91
[21:10] <kc2bez> uploaded lubuntu-default-settings 19.10.3
[21:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Resolved] Update mimeapps.list: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T91
[21:10] <kc2bez> That is it from me in my abbreviated week.
[21:10] <wxl> that was a good one, though
[21:10] <wxl> ok @HMollerCl
 ok
 I investigated how/why icons are populated in the menu
 becasue we have some monhrome icons that in our default scheme dark panel/light window looks bad
 thing is that menu uses 16x16 icons and places and devices have only monochromes in that (becasue sometim3es are used in filemanager)
 so, we need to find a solution and I will start work on it.
 I will try to fix it creating .desktop in ~./local/applications. Unless anyone has a better idea.
 for more info https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-icon-theme/issues/1835
 reverted connection-editor
 (with help from wxl)
 Still cleaning PEP8, lintian oand ther on lubuntu-update-notifier
 found this which we could put in whislist (needs packaging apparently) … https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-libreoffice-theme
[21:14] <wxl> oh ^^^ lynorian re: connection-editor the manual for 19.10 needs to discuss using nm-tui for basic needs but then how to use gnome-connection-editor or whatever it's called for more advanced things
[21:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> I am back.
[21:15] <wxl> please make a task for that, Hans
 ok
[21:15] <wxl> and i don't think we technically have a task for lubuntu-update-notifier do we?
[21:16] <wxl> i don't think we do. having one would help us track that
[21:16] <kc2bez> I thought Simon made one.
[21:16] <wxl> those can both be subtasks of T41/19.10
 mmm, we had
 not sure if we re-created
[21:17] <wxl> oic little bits are there
[21:17] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98
[21:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Cleanup for lubuntu-update-notifier prior to uploading: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98
[21:17] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97
[21:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Make lubuntu-update-notifier PEP-8 compliant: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97
[21:17] <wxl> he just didn't make them parents of T41
[21:17] <apt-ghetto> Would be much easier if you can define a parent task, when creating a new task (*hint for the phab admins*)
[21:18] <wxl> you can
[21:18] <wxl> start off from the parent task and it's super easy
[21:19] <wxl> ok got that done
[21:19] <wxl> anything else?
 from my side none
[21:20] <wxl> ok go raman
[21:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! 
[21:21] <The_LoudSpeaker> Hii. So I don't have much. And sorry for going blank earlier. I was installing lubuntu to a friend's laptop. 
 @tsimonq2 Do we create the language channels as an owner and put you as an administrator?
[21:21] <The_LoudSpeaker> About the lubuntu-grub-theme,
[21:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> Reading docs. College started from today so didn't get much time. Will try to do by weekend.
[21:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> About xscreensaver themes. I kept staring at themes today for about past 1 hour. Noted which are good. Will start soon. 
[21:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> That's it. 
[21:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, learnt how to send encrypted mails
[21:23] <wxl> yay :)
[21:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> And got k9 mail all set.
[21:23] <wxl> ok i guess that leaves me
[21:23] <wxl> spew coming soon
[21:24] <wxl>  * TASKS
[21:24] <wxl>    * Made task to explore compton fork https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96
[21:24] <wxl>    * Accepted Bionic locker SRU https://phab.lubuntu.me/D23
[21:24] <wxl>    * Various comments on the xscreensaver task, including a first stab at a lock screen theme https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21
[21:24] <wxl>    * Created a task to fix DND in MTP devices https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] investigate yshui's compton fork: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96
[21:24] <wxl>    * Requested changes on one of the shortcuts tasks https://phab.lubuntu.me/D17
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Set default lock to light-locker-command: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D23
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Our xscreensaver theme is too old: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Fix DND with MTP devices: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99
[21:24] <wxl>    * Commented on default settings for touchpad task https://phab.lubuntu.me/T26
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Revision] Edited Shortcuts.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D17
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Define and Implement Default Settings for Touchpad: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T26
[21:24] <wxl>    * Commented on minimal install task with some upstream news https://phab.lubuntu.me/T58
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] consider minimal install: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T58
[21:24] <wxl>    * Finally marked usb-creator task as resolved! https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Resolved] fix usb-creator-kde: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51
[21:24] <wxl>  * TESTING
[21:24] <wxl>    * Tested the mimetypes fix https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS74450398791522ab85a5190c6809ce50a76cfb70
[21:24] <wxl>    * Tested and verified Bionic locker SRU https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1812594
[21:24] <wxl>  * COMMITS
[21:24] <wxl>    * Sponsored reversion of nm-tray connection editor change https://phab.lubuntu.me/D25
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Reverted previous commit: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D25
[21:24] <wxl>  * MISCELLANEOUS
[21:24] <wxl>    * Updated Discourse support category pin to suggest information to include https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/about-the-support-category/13
[21:24] <wxl>    * Added tagging functionality to Discourse.
[21:24] <wxl>    * Tagged posts on Discourse.
[21:24] <wxl>    * Answered an AskUbuntu question about replacing xscreensaver's lock mechanism https://askubuntu.com/a/1161114/237241 
[21:24] <wxl>    * Answered an AskUbuntu question about DND to desktop not working due to user-dirs.dirs https://askubuntu.com/a/1161370/237241
[21:24] <wxl>    * Answered an AskUbuntu question about making the writing cursor non-blinking https://askubuntu.com/a/1161329/237241
[21:24] <wxl>    * Installed Raman as a mailing list moderator
[21:24] <wxl>    * Commented on a Reddit thread about hash/GPG verification of ISOs https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/cimqtk/feedbackama_thread_for_julyaugust_2019/evcj00y/?st=jyol4apb&sh=089d3f54
[21:24] <wxl>    * Created a Support wiki page https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/support/
[21:24] <wxl>    * Answered a Reddit question about windows shortcuts https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/ck31z4/no_windows_keyboard_shortcuts/?st=jyqqak1x&sh=e8bf62a8
[21:25] <apt-ghetto> Don't forget guiverc 
[21:26] <guiverc> I've got nothing to say; here to listen
[21:26] <wxl> ok guiverc you're up if everyone's done digesting my stuff
[21:26] <lynorian> wxl is the support linked in why not get involved?
[21:26] <wxl> ooh good call
[21:26] <wxl> but guiverc you helped so much with testing!
 after guiverc we have @N0um3n0
[21:27] <wxl> oh well we'll let guiverc be modest :)
[21:27] <guiverc> HMollerCl & wxl - I upstreamed ??? but I haven't read what occurred since then yet
[21:27] <wxl> go @N0um3n0
[21:28] <wxl> guiverc: it's been really positive, actually!
[21:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALaabab0b93e96: Add second link for phab wiki on support] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALaabab0b93e96
 go @N0um3n0
 we are going to start creating the support channels and today we are going to create the German one
 @aptghetto we expect you to be there to
[21:32] <wxl> if you could add the ones we have and the ones we will have here.. that would eb great https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/support/
 With @HMollerCl and @JyotiGomes as admins
 And @aptghetto ?
[21:32] <apt-ghetto> Send me the link, I will look also
[21:32] <apt-ghetto> I don't need to be an admin
 soon we will create more channels but today we will start with this
 @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> I don't need to be an admin], Ok
 No problem
[21:34] <wxl> good job!!!
 I will put the link as soon as it is created
 ;)
 we need to link all teh telegrams channel to irc
 (or telegram groups)
[21:35] <wxl> we should have a separate table for other language support
[21:35] <wxl> since we also have irc channels (and technically matrix ones)
 @wxl [<wxl> since we also have irc channels (and technically matrix ones)], I will make a list, right now Russian and Portuguese are pending
[21:36] <wxl> having a discourse area might be good, too
[21:37] <wxl> mailing list as a dream
 @wxl [<wxl> having a discourse area might be good, too], We are preparing a document that will be finished shortly commenting on these things, such as space for languages ​​in discourse, etc.  It will be sent to all members when finished.
[21:41] <wxl> sounds great! thank you!!!!
 ;)
[21:41] <apt-ghetto> You can create a wiki page
[21:43] <wxl> anything or anyone else???
[21:44] <wxl> ok then i guess we'll call it
[21:44] <wxl> thank you everyone!!!
[21:44] <apt-ghetto> Maybe a organisational thing: Should we have SRU_19.04, SRU_18.04 etc. as mastertask, so that we can close them
 @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> You can create a wiki page], I agree, we also have this spoken
[21:44] <kc2bez> Thanks to you wxl
[21:44] <guiverc> thanks wxl & everyone
[21:45]  * wxl tips his invisible hat
[21:45] <apt-ghetto> Now we have just one SRU task and every closed subtask remains forever (or to the next data loss)
[21:46] <wxl> well we can split them from their parent
[21:47] <wxl> which might be good to do
 @lubuntu_bot [*wxl: tips his invisible hat*], is it red?
 or is it a fedora?
[21:48] <wxl> i do have one behind the desk, but it's not a fedora
[21:49] <wxl> that's right: a red hat red hat that's not a fedora
[21:51] <wxl> i do have something like this https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0835/6551/products/H912_1_grande.jpg?v=1535533827
 German channel is created, we are in  … t.me/LubuntuDeutschthe
 the German channel is created, we are in … http://t.me/LubuntuDeutsch
[22:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7437c5d01e6c: Add note about trojita system tray] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7437c5d01e6c
 @N0um3n0 [the German channel is created, we are in … http://t.me/LubuntuDeutsch], Niceeeee
 @N0um3n0 [the German channel is created, we are in … http://t.me/LubuntuDeutsch], @aptghetto