[00:06] <ubptgbot> Nathan Willson was added by: Nathan Willson
 ?
 hmm resizing my cache partition didnt go so well
 error pushing: failed to copy '/home/mathijs/.cache/ubuntuimages/gpg/image-signing.tar.xz' to '/cache/recovery/': Is a directory
 whut
 oh 😕 and bootlooping now
 thats not good
 Hi, I’m new to ubports and have eventually installed emacs24.5+1-6ubuntu1.1 according to libertine gui. How do I run it. I tried following the manual and creating a .bash_aliases file in home with shortcuts how do I actually launch the emacs24 gui.
 Ignore the above I’ve found “Desktop Apps” panel. Lol 😂
[05:30] <ubptgbot> arthurgtan was added by: arthurgtan
[05:49] <ubptgbot> <Kumar Abhishek> Hi all.. … Is there any specific reason for PIN to be just 4 digits long..?
 @Kumar Abhishek [Hi all.. … Is there any specific reason for PIN to be just 4 digits long..?], The alternative is to use a `Passphrase` instead of a `4-digit passcode`.
 You can do that from `Lock security` in the System Settings.
[05:53] <ubptgbot> <Kumar Abhishek> Yup, I saw that. … I was just curious about the PIN though...
[05:53] <ubptgbot> <Kumar Abhishek> @imraniqbal [You can do that from Lock security in the System Settings.], 🙏 👍😊
 @Kumar Abhishek [Yup, I saw that. … I was just curious about the PIN though...], Not sure but you can simulate `Passphrase` to behave any way you like, so I suppose there's a solution for everyone's needs.
[05:58] <ubptgbot> <Kumar Abhishek> 😊
[06:33] <ubptgbot> Graham Clark was added by: Graham Clark
[06:34] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> Hi all, i was trying (unsuccessfully) to follow the directions to install UT. I tried joining the forum but it won't let me.
 I usually select passphrase then make it a 4 digit pin, throws everyone off lol
[06:35] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> It hasn't sent me the email.
 @Graham Clark [Hi all, i was trying (unsuccessfully) to follow the directions to install UT. I …], You'll get a lot more help (eventually) in the Welcome group: https://t.me/WelcomePlus.
 @Graham Clark [Hi all, i was trying (unsuccessfully) to follow the directions to install UT. I …], Are you trying to install to a supported device?
 By eventually, I mean when the installation experts are around.
[06:36] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> nexus 5
 Ok, where are you having the issue?
[06:37] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> ok, cheers, i mean, i am trying to just let them know thtat their forum registration isn't working because it must be putting people off.
 @Graham Clark [ok, cheers, i mean, i am trying to just let them know thtat their forum registra …], Have you checked your spam folder?
[06:37] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> I then tried to email them and I didn't understand what that was trying to get me to do
 Even after joining, I've found certain messages have crept in there since.
[06:37] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> so eventually i had to download telegram which i didnt really want to do
 I cant help with forum stuff, but I can try to help with install
[06:38] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> i appreciate that. Reckoned it might be  more usefull on a forum for others to see as well maybe?
[06:38] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> And, yes, I looked in spam.
[06:39] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> I tried resending it half a dozen times then have left it for about 8-10 hours
[06:39] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> rebooted pc
 One thing about Telegram is that you'll get responses much quicker.  The community is pretty active around these rooms.
[06:39] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> ok, cool.
 And there's a wealth of information in the room histories, to help solve your problem.
[06:40] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> ah
 That's why the Welcome group is worth joining.  It's probably already answered there.
 And if you've got a Nexus 5, you'll get the solution.  It's one of the most popular devices.
 Again what is your issue? I am pretty active, not as much as I used to be, but I still try to help people
[06:40] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> I mean, my first question, is it kind of set up for noobs to do? Or is it not really for that yet?
[06:41] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> I bought the nexus 5 because i was pretty keen to give it a go.
 The installer is pretty user friendly
[06:41] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> I mean, if you are happy to help, i would appreciate it.
[06:41] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> So, what group am i in? It only gave me this one option
 This is supergroup, there's one for new comers and install issues
 This is https://t.me/ubports and the Welcome group is https://t.me/WelcomePlus.
[06:43] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> I don't know what supergroup means
 @imraniqbal [This is https://t.me/ubports and the Welcome group is https://t.me/WelcomePlus.], Thanks, I was just about to do that
[06:43] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> well apart from it must have awesome peoplle in it
 This supergroup is the main group for support.
 @Graham Clark [I don't know what supergroup means], Just the name, im in both
[06:43] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> ok, should i join the other one instead then?
 But there's a specific group for helping with installations.
 You can join as many as you want actually
 Just click that link and you'll join it.  You'll still be here as well.
 @Tygerpro [Thanks, I was just about to do that], You're welcome.
[06:45] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> Is there a list of groups?
 Hello, who is latest phone, which can install ubuntu touch ?
 @BaHKoTo [Hello, who is latest phone, which can install ubuntu touch ?], See the conversation from here: https://t.me/ubports/220057.
 Summary: Meizu Pro 5 (most powerful), Fairphone 2 (latest).
 These questions should be put in a FAQ on the site, they get asked enough
 Thank You :)
 You're welcome.
[09:10] <ubptgbot> gonil123 was added by: gonil123
[09:20] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> @imraniqbal [Summary: Meizu Pro 5 (most powerful), Fairphone 2 (latest).], Excellent, thanks for putting that up. I have written that down. Like the look of the fairphone. That is how I think.
 @Graham Clark [Excellent, thanks for putting that up. I have written that down. Like the look o …], Spend some time with your Nexus 5 first.  It's one of the best supported devices.
[09:21] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> Exactly my plan.
[09:22] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> But thanks for backing it up. It helps.
[09:23] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> I don't need any more anyway atm. It has twice the memory of my huawei and a better phone generally. It seems to pass benchmarks by almost double the score as well. AND I get to  put UT on it.
[09:23] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> :)
[09:23] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> I am so pleased. I bought it in the hope it would work. Grand total of £35.
 Excellent, mine cost a bit more than that but I wanted a "brand new" device (one that hadn't been used before).
[09:29] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> I hit really lucky. I had a search on and he said it hadn't been used. It has the plastic on it still. (or put back on) I saw it as soon as it came up and he accepted an offer. Is there a way to know if it has been used before?
 No idea, some people know how to refurbish so it becomes difficult to detect.  I'm sure there are tools out there that can tests the components.
[09:42] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> Ha ha, I have 26GB storage free How nice is that?
 What are you used to seeing?
[09:51] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> 4gb
[09:51] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> and that is after deleting stuff
 Graham if you don't like Telegram, we're on Matrix too :) … FluffyChat is the perfect app to join that network btw
[09:52] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> has a 16gb storage
[09:53] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> i don't mind telegram, i just didn't have it. I don't use any of the others either.
[09:54] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> apparently you can tell if a phone has been used with imei info. I can't find it on mine though
 @Graham Clark [i don't mind telegram, i just didn't have it. I don't use any of the others eith …], If you want a Telegram app on the phone, then TELEports is the latest and greatest.  You can get it from the OpenStore.
[09:58] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> ok, so, open store is like the play store?
[09:58] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> but not as safe as using, say software manager in Mint?
 @Graham Clark [ok, so, open store is like the play store?], OpenStore is the app store for Ubuntu Touch.
 @Graham Clark [but not as safe as using, say software manager in Mint?], Safe in what respect?
 Graham OpenStore is pretty safe, and the contained app model also helps to increase that. … Any app must follow this https://open-store.io/submit before being submitted to the OpenStore
 You can find more info at https://open-store.io/about
[10:52] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> @advocatux [Graham OpenStore is pretty safe, and the contained app model also helps to incre …], Nice, cheers.
[11:09] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> One little aesthetic thing. I have always set my phone so when it sits there it is just as plain a screen as possible. I ssem only able to have my apps showing.
[11:09] <ubptgbot> Wat Tyler was added by: Wat Tyler
 @Graham Clark [One little aesthetic thing. I have always set my phone so when it sits there it …], There is a way to change that, you can make all the icons disappear and the screen act more like a desktop, however it is not reccomended for a screen that is setup like the N5's
 @Graham Clark [One little aesthetic thing. I have always set my phone so when it sits there it …], when the new version of unity8 makes it into the image, you'll be able to do that, sort of. for now it's not at feature/stability parity, so it's only available in edge
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [launcher Modular updated in the open-store!], Excellent, I've tried this as my main launcher again and don't appear to be having performance issues (high CPU usage, etc.) — was this fixed?
 @imraniqbal [Excellent, I've tried this as my main launcher again and don't appear to be havi …], Yes 😊
[13:03] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> @dohbee [when the new version of unity8 makes it into the image, you'll be able to do tha …], Cool, thanks. Like I say, not really bothered.
[13:04] <ubptgbot> <Graham Clark> Is it possible to take a screenshot yet?
 @Graham Clark [Is it possible to take a screenshot yet?], press both volume buttons simultaneously
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [Yes 😊], Thanks, I'm enjoying the new launcher!  Where are bugs reported?
 @imraniqbal [Thanks, I'm enjoying the new launcher!  Where are bugs reported?], https://framagit.org/ubuntouch-fr-dev/launcher-modular/issues thanks
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [https://framagit.org/ubuntouch-fr-dev/launcher-modular/issues thanks], Great, got an issue with the bottom bar context menu when trying to open it in landscape orientation.  Then breaks it for portrait as well.  Do you know about this?
 Oh no I did not see can you note it in the git? thank you
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [Oh no I did not see can you note it in the git? thank you], Yes, I'll try to find a bit of time to do it.  Thanks.
 @imraniqbal [Yes, I'll try to find a bit of time to do it.  Thanks.], Thanks you
 too bad gitlab doesn't have federation
[14:19] <ubptgbot> <John (Marlin)> @Graham Clark [apparently you can tell if a phone has been used with imei info. I can't find it …], It's on a sticker inside the case, but you can view it in About Phone instead.
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [Yes 😊], your launcher is truly excellent - the only thing keeping me replacing the usual App Scope with it is the lack of support for Libertine desktop apps. That - and I would love an option to have the Favorite apps be displayed with multiple rows instead of the scrolling single row that is there now.  Thank you fo
[14:30] <ubptgbot> r all your work making the Launcher Modular!
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 @TotalSonic [your launcher is truly excellent - the only thing keeping me replacing the usual …], For now nothing is planned for the favorite applications to appear otherwise. … By cons for applications libertine we work.
 Has everyone with any BQ device on devel updated to today's image?
 I hear it's got candy
 Or, at least camera fixes for real this time
 I would tell you if thats true or not except I lack a BQ lol
 But I like the idea of a OTA having candy
 i'm only interested in BBQ
 @dohbee [i'm only interested in BBQ], come on over to where I'm at (ATX) - lots of great bbq here!
 @UniversalSuperBox [Or, at least camera fixes for real this time], I've installed UT (devel) before going back to edge on my krillin. … No problem with the cameras so far
 BQ M10, development version. I confirm that the camera works beautifully again. Thank you :)
[18:42] <ubptgbot> Goliv04053 was added by: Goliv04053
 hello
 is the ubuntu touch compatible with samsung devices?
 I have a Samsung Galaxy J7 Prime
 @Goliv04053 [is the ubuntu touch compatible with samsung devices?], No for now (https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/)
 ok
 thanks
 👍
 I have a note 8 and some spare time.. not a lot mind you so may be a slow dev, buy have started trying to do the do if you know what I mean
 I'll need support along the way so I guess I'm in the right place👍
 Ah, shipped with Android 7.1.1. That should be possible!
 @ubports_porting is the topic-specific channel for the do that you're doing, too. :)
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/tMSwOdrL.mp4
 @UniversalSuperBox [@ubports_porting is the topic-specific channel for the do that you're doing, too …], Amazeballs ta
 I just switched from stable to edge, and I'm really liking the dock/app drawer setup. Good work guys!
 Thank Canonical for their design and start on the work. :D
 @dohbee [i'm only interested in BBQ], Then you should keep an eye on the cooking group, Ive posted a few BBQ photos lol
 @binhead [I have a note 8 and some spare time.. not a lot mind you so may be a slow dev, b …], As long as its A) the exynos version (snapdragon doesnt have an unlock yet) B) has a LOS 14.1 based ROM, and lastly, but probably most importantly, a willing-ness to ask for help, I started a galaxy Note 4 port awhile back, I havent worked on i
[19:21] <ubptgbot> t lately due to my grandmother needed a pho e and she picked that one
 @Tygerpro [As long as its A) the exynos version (snapdragon doesnt have an unlock yet) B) h …], I'll do some research on this, thanks!!
 I do have a feeling it's Snapdragon though...
 If your in the US its a high probability, my Note 8 is a 950U
 any  work on TELEport or telegram voice call ???
 there is lots of work on teleports
 👍
 voice call is probably a decent way off from being implemented though, i guess
 though i think voice will work in webtelegram for now
 @Tygerpro [If your in the US its a high probability, my Note 8 is a 950U], Uk
 @binhead [Uk], Exynos is more prevalent in UK
 Ok I'll check it out
 Hi, ubports touch support wireguard?
 @tiagopolicarpopt [Hi, ubports touch support wireguard?], The kernels do not, so no.
 (Photo, 1001x497) https://irc.ubports.com/ZG97WRXa.png Task complete!
 nice!
 @dohbee [The kernels do not, so no.], Do you know if support will be possible in the future?
 @tiagopolicarpopt [Do you know if support will be possible in the future?], Only on newer devices that have kernels which can support it.
 @dohbee [Only on newer devices that have kernels which can support it.], Have nexus 4 😞
 @dohbee [Only on newer devices that have kernels which can support it.], [Edit] I Hlhave nexus 4 😞
 @dohbee [Only on newer devices that have kernels which can support it.], [Edit] I have nexus 4 😞
 @dohbee [Only on newer devices that have kernels which can support it.], Librem 5? Pinephone?
 Yes, if someone implements necessary bits
 @UniversalSuperBox [<reply to media>], Awesome.
 @UniversalSuperBox [<reply to media>], Historic day
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/ELsXgBxL.webp
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/8p0LY1JH.webp