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* vorlon waves14:59
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bdmurrayrbalint: You seem to be the chair for the meeting15:03
rbalintbdmurray, thanks for the reminder15:03
rbalint#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:04
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rbalint#topic Lightning rounds15:05
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cyphermoxo/15:05
rbalintecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)15:05
rbalintvorlon infinity juliank bdmurray cyphermox sil2100 rbalint mwhudson waveform xnox15:05
vorlonskip15:07
bdmurrayinfinity is away15:07
bdmurrayjuliank: !15:07
juliank- back from debconf15:08
juliank+ installed autopkgtest-cloud on my laptop there15:08
juliank+ gave some talks about apt and triehash15:08
juliank- fighting debflu15:08
juliank- processing email backlog15:08
juliank- discussing with lvm2 upstream about the patch I sent them15:08
juliank- some dpkg SRU rdep autopkgtest regression test triage15:08
juliank(done)15:08
bdmurrayconverting of daisy to python-cassandra15:08
bdmurrayfixed a traceback in oops-repository when writing data to cassandra15:08
bdmurrayremoval of unnecessary data from Error Tracker db for EoL releases15:08
bdmurraydiscussion with OEM team regarding apport for debugging15:08
bdmurraySRU reviews15:08
bdmurray✔ done15:09
bdmurraycyphermox:15:09
cyphermoxhim reviews (ours, Oracle, other randoms that were unreproducible/broken)15:09
cyphermoxinvestigating writable files in /etc on core15:09
cyphermoxspec draft for netplan NetworkManager read/write plugin15:09
cyphermoxspec draft for OVS support15:09
cyphermoxnetplan merges: doc fixes, packaging fixes, hashed passwords & dbus activation15:09
cyphermoxmore netplan merges / cutting a release in progress15:09
cyphermoxhelping slashd with bind9 packaging changes15:09
cyphermoxbug/card work for Japanese era15:09
cyphermoxthe first like was "shim reviews"15:09
cyphermox(done)15:09
bdmurraysil2100:15:09
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:09
sil2100- New kernel cycle reviews, re-spins and re-respins, oh gosh15:09
sil2100- Prepared a linux-firmware-dragonboard410 package with the binary blobs15:09
sil2100  * Not uploaded to NEW yet, staged in a bileto PPA, want to test it with some test classic gadget15:09
sil2100- Reviewed ubuntu-core u-boot dragonboard patches, pushed them to the u-boot package15:10
sil2100  * Also in the bileto PPA for now15:10
sil2100- Refreshed base language-pack's for eoan15:10
sil2100- disk-space-estimate for snaps:15:10
sil2100  * Figured out basics of how ubuntu-release-upgrader code works15:10
sil2100  * Still working on it, but seeing progress15:10
sil2100- Add handling of block-proposed in sru-report15:10
sil2100- Looking into ncurses -proposed migration issues15:10
sil2100- Looking into checking the lvm2 bug on LP builders15:10
sil2100- Spinning some test images for the kernel guys15:10
sil2100(done)15:10
bdmurraysil2100: You could have asked for someone to *mentor* you about u-r-u15:10
rbalint* verified LP: #183746615:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1837466 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] Please make ubuntu-wsl recommend dbus-x11 " [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183746615:10
rbalint* fixed skiboot ftbfs15:10
rbalint* fixed libnfs autopkgtest15:10
rbalint* merged systemd, poking it to migrate15:10
rbalint* other discussions15:10
rbalint(done)15:10
waveform* Pi 4 boot work:15:11
waveform* u-boot working on pi4, but serial only (no USB, no screen yet)15:11
waveform* got u-boot pi4 patches building a version that also works on pi3 (was missing USB config; should work on pi2 as well - untested as yet), so no need to move to conditional config.txt \o/15:11
waveform* working on updating our -raspi2 kernel patches to support pi415:11
waveform* queried upstream on some more precise details of the bootloader (specifically device tree selection and merges)15:11
waveform(done)15:11
sil2100bdmurray: I just didn't want to bother my mentor, you know!15:11
rbalint.. and xnox is away, too15:12
rbalint#topic Release incoming bugs15:12
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rbalint#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:12
bdmurraysil2100: have you looked at bug 1833758 yet?15:12
ubottubug 1833758 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "lvm2: vgcfgbackup in postinst takes several minutes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183375815:12
sil2100bdmurray: yes15:12
sil2100Left a comment even15:12
sil2100Did you not read it Brian?15:13
bdmurraywhoa!15:13
* bdmurray reads15:13
rbalint#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:13
bdmurrayvorlon: Do you think we should pass on that bug for EE then?15:13
vorlonbdmurray: it doesn't look to me like something we should prioritize, no15:14
juliankI believe they removed some daemons and things are slower now because it's processed in the foreground, but I might be wrong15:15
bdmurraywe could look for a similar debian bug15:15
bdmurraymoving on then bug 183792615:15
ubottubug 1837926 in snapd (Ubuntu) "snapd snap ftbfs in eoan due to python-apt regression" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183792615:15
juliankworking on that15:16
bdmurrayI'll card it since its a ftbfs15:16
rbalintare we fixing snap builds in general?15:16
juliankWell, I have a hack-ish fix already, but want to clean it up a bit15:16
rbalinti mean i can find all reverse build deps of a package with ratt, but how can i do it with snaps?15:16
juliankBasically, I broke all code that used md515:16
bdmurraythat's it for the undecided and high / critical15:18
rbalintthat seems t be all the bugs, let's move to the next part15:18
rbalint#link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:18
rbalint(skipping bb incoming because there is not much there)15:20
vorlonlooking much better than it was15:21
rbalintimagemagick is waiting for mir of libheif115:21
vorlonthanks for everyone's work on this!15:21
rbalintfor build-essential i have an mp to blacklist linux-oem-osp115:21
cyphermoxI'll have another look aat the libheif MIR15:22
cyphermoxand obviously netplan.15:22
rbalintcyphermox, it seems systemd broke netplan but thanks!15:23
rbalinti'm looking at network-manager for systemd15:23
cyphermoxsure, I'm going to go look at that15:23
rbalintso anyone for build-essential's regressions?15:23
vorlonrbalint: link to your mp please?15:24
vorlonI can take build-essential, I'd already tried retesting those against release pocket last night15:24
cyphermoxrbalint: looks oddly spread out15:24
vorlon(I expect they're all badtest)15:24
cyphermoxrbalint: what networkmanager for systemd?15:25
rbalintvorlon, yes, seems so15:25
rbalintvorlon, https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/britney/autopkgtest-eoan-hints/+merge/37087015:25
rbalintvorlon, had it in my branch, forgot to file it :-\15:25
rbalintcyphermox, no, ones for build-essential15:26
rbalintcyphermox, n-m seems valid :-(15:26
cyphermoxnah, you mentioned you're looking at network-manager for systemd15:26
vorlonrbalint: ah, I got the version number wrong, thanks I was wondering why those were showing up as failures when I thought I'd already hinted15:27
rbalintok, so anyone for nodejs?15:27
cyphermoxrbalint: ok, I see. nm fails because systemd is again trying to be real clever.15:28
* vorlon unfolds a newspaper and hides behind it15:28
cyphermoxprobably the same failure for netplan, tbh15:28
cyphermoxnodejs, ok15:28
rbalintcyphermox, i agree that they are trying pack too much smartness in a single project15:29
cyphermox(that was me saying I'd look at nodejs)15:29
rbalintcyphermox, thanks!15:30
rbalintnext is file: makedumpfile15:30
rbalinti take this one15:31
rbalintbecause why not :-)15:31
rbalinti think mwhudson mentioned pinentry15:32
rbalinti retried the ones for libglib-perl15:33
vorlonand everything below that is <1 day old not requiring attention now15:34
vorlon\o/15:34
rbalint#topic AOB15:34
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vorlonnothing here15:35
bdmurrayI'm hoping some people could test bug 183571115:35
ubottubug 1835711 in apport (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu-bug collects bug data but does not upload it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183571115:35
bdmurrayI'm trying to get an idea of how many systems have whoopsie disabled15:36
bdmurraysystemctl is-enabled whoopsie15:36
cyphermoxwhoopsie is enabled here15:37
sil2100It's disabled on my system15:38
bdmurraysil2100: is it active though?15:38
waveformbdmurray, would you expect to see it on non-desktop systems?15:39
bdmurraywaveform: "see"?15:39
waveformit's enabled on my oldxenial desktop, not installed on a bionic container, or an eoan pi image I've currently got running15:39
bdmurraygot it thanks15:39
waveformsorry - by "see" I meant, would you expect it to be installed (given the lack of installation on the two examples mentioned)15:40
bdmurrayno, not really15:40
rbalintbdmurray, it is active here on newly installed bionic15:40
bdmurrayrbalint: active and enabled?15:40
rbalintbdmurray, yes15:40
vorlonit's active here (as previously mentioned), and that's on an Ubuntu install that's seen some stuff15:41
waveformalso enabled on my ancient xenial server (upgraded from ... gawd knows what, probably precise)15:41
bdmurrayalright I don't think working on bug 1835711 too hard is worth it then.15:41
ubottubug 1835711 in apport (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu-bug collects bug data but does not upload it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183571115:41
bdmurraybecause its not obvious at all why it is disabled on my system.15:42
rbalint#endmeeting15:44
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Aug  1 15:44:36 2019 UTC.15:44
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-08-01-15.04.moin.txt15:44
vorlonthanks!15:44
rbalinto/15:44
cyphermoxthanks!15:45
sil2100Thanks rbalint o/15:46
diddledanHello Hello20:01
bashfulrobotHeyo20:04
diddledananyone else here?20:05
* diddledan prepares the script20:06
bashfulrobotNope. Not so far.20:11
diddledanclobrano: are you around?20:12
bashfulrobotI think just the two of us. I also forgot to check the wiki to see if anyone was even lined up for a membership interview20:12
bashfulrobotdiddledan: I guess we call it for this time slot?20:18
diddledanlast call for clobrano ..20:19
clobranoHi20:21
diddledanaha20:21
diddledanheya :-)20:21
clobrano:)20:21
diddledanright, let's get going - with the two of us we don't actually have a quorum, but I have a couple of prevotes that will swing us over the line20:22
diddledan#startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board20:22
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Aug  1 20:22:41 2019 UTC.  The chair is diddledan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.20:22
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick20:22
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clobranoOh, I see20:22
diddledanHello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for August 1st 2019. The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards20:23
diddledanWe will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.20:23
diddledanThe format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).20:23
diddledanEach applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.20:23
diddledanDuring this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.20:23
diddledanWhen the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the majority of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)20:23
diddledanNow, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...20:23
diddledan#topic clobrano20:24
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diddledanclobrano: if you could introduce yourself and post the link to your wiki page..20:24
clobranohey everybody then :)20:24
clobranosure, I'm Carlo Lobrano, from Italy20:24
clobranomore details here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/clobrano20:25
clobranoI mostly contributed to the themes in the last years, and in Yaru in particular20:25
clobranobut I also give some little help in other projects, like snapcraft, snappy and some other gnome apps20:26
diddledancool :-) I'll pause here a few minutes to let everyone have a chance to read your wiki page20:27
clobranoalright20:27
diddledanI see you've got some great testimonials.20:28
diddledanIs there anyone else here besides the membership board that wants to jump in with some thoughts on clobrano and their application?20:28
clobranoyes, I really appreciated their words, very kind of them20:28
diddledanok, do any board members have questions they'd like to ask clobrano ?20:30
bashfulrobot(I am here. Just reading up on the wiki)20:31
diddledan:-)20:31
bashfulrobotclobrano: I see that your work is predominately with the theming, but you also mentioned that you would like to work on some additional projects closer to your development experience. What did you have in mind there? Which projects interest you?20:33
clobranobashfulrobot: I surely like to work more on gnome-shell and mutter on software side, it just took me a bit to configure the environment (jhbuild) for build and testing20:34
clobranoI also enjoyed a lot the interaction with nautilus and gnome-calendar mantainer, so I will probably go back there too20:35
diddledanawesome. I've struggled with jhbuild in the past, too..20:35
clobranoone thing I'd like to work on on theme side is instead the friction we observed lately between upstream and custom themes :)20:36
clobranoI hope in a win-win solution20:36
bashfulrobotYes, easing process and having cross project friction minimized is always a great thing! :-)20:38
clobranototally agree!20:38
diddledanany more questions? I'm happy.20:39
bashfulrobotIt's something many communities could be better at. Haha20:39
bashfulrobotI'm actually good. Having read through the recommendations and such, seems like a pretty solid addition.20:39
clobrano:D, well I believe when people are passionate is even normal20:39
clobranosometimes :)20:39
diddledanok, lets get to the voting then :-)20:39
bashfulrobotOh there is absolutely nothing wrong with passion. 👍20:39
bashfulrobot+1 for me20:39
diddledan#vote clobrano membership application20:40
meetingologyPlease vote on: clobrano membership application20:40
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)20:40
diddledan#voters bashfulrobot diddledan20:40
meetingologyCurrent voters: bashfulrobot diddledan20:40
diddledan#nick wxl20:40
diddledan#action wxl votes +120:40
meetingologyACTION: wxl votes +120:40
diddledan#nick wildmanne3920:41
diddledan#action wildmanne39 votes +120:41
meetingologyACTION: wildmanne39 votes +120:41
bashfulrobot+120:41
meetingology+1 received from bashfulrobot20:41
diddledan#nick msdomdonner20:41
diddledan#action msdomdonner votes +120:41
meetingologyACTION: msdomdonner votes +120:41
wxloh hai20:41
wxl1s20:41
diddledanoh, let me add you to the voters20:41
bashfulrobotHey wxl20:41
wxloh right20:41
wxl+120:41
diddledan#voters bashfulrobot wxl diddledan20:42
meetingologyCurrent voters: bashfulrobot diddledan wxl20:42
clobranohey wxl :)20:42
wxloh i guess you did this already huh? XD20:42
* wxl is apparently behind the times hehehe20:42
diddledan#nick iulian20:42
diddledan#action iulian votes +120:42
meetingologyACTION: iulian votes +120:42
diddledanlast one :-)20:42
diddledan#nick fenris20:43
diddledan#action fenris votes +120:43
meetingologyACTION: fenris votes +120:43
diddledan+1 from me - excellent work :-)20:43
meetingology+1 from me - excellent work :-) received from diddledan20:43
clobrano:)20:43
diddledanwxl: can you re-+1 - you beat me before I added you to the bot's tracking :-)20:43
bashfulrobotwxl: yup yup yup. Haha20:43
wxl+120:44
meetingology+1 received from wxl20:44
diddledanok.20:44
diddledan#endvote20:44
meetingologyVoting ended on: clobrano membership application20:44
meetingologyVotes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:44
meetingologyMotion carried20:44
diddledancongratulations clobrano :-D20:44
wxlwell deserved, for sure20:44
clobranohoray! thanks everybody :)20:44
diddledanunanimous decision !20:44
clobrano:D20:44
bashfulrobotCongrats clobrano !20:44
clobranothanks bashfulrobot20:45
diddledanwith that, I'll end the meeting20:45
diddledan#endmeeting20:45
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Aug  1 20:45:06 2019 UTC.20:45
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-08-01-20.22.moin.txt20:45
diddledanthanks everyone :-)20:45
bashfulrobotThank you all!20:45
wxlthanks, ya'll. i'm going back to lurking.20:45
clobranothanks again :)20:46
* clobrano removing its name from the next meeting list 20:46
popey_clobrano: congratulations!20:55
clobranoThanks popey_ :)20:56
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