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[14:59]  * vorlon waves
[15:01] <waveform> o/
[15:01] <rbalint> o/
[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:03] <juliank> o/
[15:03] <bdmurray> rbalint: You seem to be the chair for the meeting
[15:03] <rbalint> bdmurray, thanks for the reminder
[15:04] <rbalint> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug  1 15:04:43 2019 UTC.  The chair is rbalint. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:05] <rbalint> #topic Lightning rounds
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[15:05] <cyphermox> o/
[15:05] <rbalint> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)
[15:05] <rbalint> vorlon infinity juliank bdmurray cyphermox sil2100 rbalint mwhudson waveform xnox
[15:07] <vorlon> skip
[15:07] <bdmurray> infinity is away
[15:07] <bdmurray> juliank: !
[15:08] <juliank> - back from debconf
[15:08] <juliank> + installed autopkgtest-cloud on my laptop there
[15:08] <juliank> + gave some talks about apt and triehash
[15:08] <juliank> - fighting debflu
[15:08] <juliank> - processing email backlog
[15:08] <juliank> - discussing with lvm2 upstream about the patch I sent them
[15:08] <juliank> - some dpkg SRU rdep autopkgtest regression test triage
[15:08] <juliank> (done)
[15:08] <bdmurray> converting of daisy to python-cassandra
[15:08] <bdmurray> fixed a traceback in oops-repository when writing data to cassandra
[15:08] <bdmurray> removal of unnecessary data from Error Tracker db for EoL releases
[15:08] <bdmurray> discussion with OEM team regarding apport for debugging
[15:08] <bdmurray> SRU reviews
[15:09] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:09] <bdmurray> cyphermox:
[15:09] <cyphermox> him reviews (ours, Oracle, other randoms that were unreproducible/broken)
[15:09] <cyphermox> investigating writable files in /etc on core
[15:09] <cyphermox> spec draft for netplan NetworkManager read/write plugin
[15:09] <cyphermox> spec draft for OVS support
[15:09] <cyphermox> netplan merges: doc fixes, packaging fixes, hashed passwords & dbus activation
[15:09] <cyphermox> more netplan merges / cutting a release in progress
[15:09] <cyphermox> helping slashd with bind9 packaging changes
[15:09] <cyphermox> bug/card work for Japanese era
[15:09] <cyphermox> the first like was "shim reviews"
[15:09] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:09] <bdmurray> sil2100:
[15:09] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[15:09] <sil2100> - New kernel cycle reviews, re-spins and re-respins, oh gosh
[15:09] <sil2100> - Prepared a linux-firmware-dragonboard410 package with the binary blobs
[15:09] <sil2100>   * Not uploaded to NEW yet, staged in a bileto PPA, want to test it with some test classic gadget
[15:10] <sil2100> - Reviewed ubuntu-core u-boot dragonboard patches, pushed them to the u-boot package
[15:10] <sil2100>   * Also in the bileto PPA for now
[15:10] <sil2100> - Refreshed base language-pack's for eoan
[15:10] <sil2100> - disk-space-estimate for snaps:
[15:10] <sil2100>   * Figured out basics of how ubuntu-release-upgrader code works
[15:10] <sil2100>   * Still working on it, but seeing progress
[15:10] <sil2100> - Add handling of block-proposed in sru-report
[15:10] <sil2100> - Looking into ncurses -proposed migration issues
[15:10] <sil2100> - Looking into checking the lvm2 bug on LP builders
[15:10] <sil2100> - Spinning some test images for the kernel guys
[15:10] <sil2100> (done)
[15:10] <bdmurray> sil2100: You could have asked for someone to *mentor* you about u-r-u
[15:10] <rbalint> * verified LP: #1837466
[15:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1837466 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] Please make ubuntu-wsl recommend dbus-x11 " [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1837466
[15:10] <rbalint> * fixed skiboot ftbfs
[15:10] <rbalint> * fixed libnfs autopkgtest
[15:10] <rbalint> * merged systemd, poking it to migrate
[15:10] <rbalint> * other discussions
[15:10] <rbalint> (done)
[15:11] <waveform> * Pi 4 boot work:
[15:11] <waveform> * u-boot working on pi4, but serial only (no USB, no screen yet)
[15:11] <waveform> * got u-boot pi4 patches building a version that also works on pi3 (was missing USB config; should work on pi2 as well - untested as yet), so no need to move to conditional config.txt \o/
[15:11] <waveform> * working on updating our -raspi2 kernel patches to support pi4
[15:11] <waveform> * queried upstream on some more precise details of the bootloader (specifically device tree selection and merges)
[15:11] <waveform> (done)
[15:11] <sil2100> bdmurray: I just didn't want to bother my mentor, you know!
[15:12] <rbalint> .. and xnox is away, too
[15:12] <rbalint> #topic Release incoming bugs
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[15:12] <rbalint> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:12] <bdmurray> sil2100: have you looked at bug 1833758 yet?
[15:12] <ubottu> bug 1833758 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "lvm2: vgcfgbackup in postinst takes several minutes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1833758
[15:12] <sil2100> bdmurray: yes
[15:12] <sil2100> Left a comment even
[15:13] <sil2100> Did you not read it Brian?
[15:13] <bdmurray> whoa!
[15:13]  * bdmurray reads
[15:13] <rbalint> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:13] <bdmurray> vorlon: Do you think we should pass on that bug for EE then?
[15:14] <vorlon> bdmurray: it doesn't look to me like something we should prioritize, no
[15:15] <juliank> I believe they removed some daemons and things are slower now because it's processed in the foreground, but I might be wrong
[15:15] <bdmurray> we could look for a similar debian bug
[15:15] <bdmurray> moving on then bug 1837926
[15:15] <ubottu> bug 1837926 in snapd (Ubuntu) "snapd snap ftbfs in eoan due to python-apt regression" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1837926
[15:16] <juliank> working on that
[15:16] <bdmurray> I'll card it since its a ftbfs
[15:16] <rbalint> are we fixing snap builds in general?
[15:16] <juliank> Well, I have a hack-ish fix already, but want to clean it up a bit
[15:16] <rbalint> i mean i can find all reverse build deps of a package with ratt, but how can i do it with snaps?
[15:16] <juliank> Basically, I broke all code that used md5
[15:18] <bdmurray> that's it for the undecided and high / critical
[15:18] <rbalint> that seems t be all the bugs, let's move to the next part
[15:18] <rbalint> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:20] <rbalint> (skipping bb incoming because there is not much there)
[15:21] <vorlon> looking much better than it was
[15:21] <rbalint> imagemagick is waiting for mir of libheif1
[15:21] <vorlon> thanks for everyone's work on this!
[15:21] <rbalint> for build-essential i have an mp to blacklist linux-oem-osp1
[15:22] <cyphermox> I'll have another look aat the libheif MIR
[15:22] <cyphermox> and obviously netplan.
[15:23] <rbalint> cyphermox, it seems systemd broke netplan but thanks!
[15:23] <rbalint> i'm looking at network-manager for systemd
[15:23] <cyphermox> sure, I'm going to go look at that
[15:23] <rbalint> so anyone for build-essential's regressions?
[15:24] <vorlon> rbalint: link to your mp please?
[15:24] <vorlon> I can take build-essential, I'd already tried retesting those against release pocket last night
[15:24] <cyphermox> rbalint: looks oddly spread out
[15:24] <vorlon> (I expect they're all badtest)
[15:25] <cyphermox> rbalint: what networkmanager for systemd?
[15:25] <rbalint> vorlon, yes, seems so
[15:25] <rbalint> vorlon, https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/britney/autopkgtest-eoan-hints/+merge/370870
[15:25] <rbalint> vorlon, had it in my branch, forgot to file it :-\
[15:26] <rbalint> cyphermox, no, ones for build-essential
[15:26] <rbalint> cyphermox, n-m seems valid :-(
[15:26] <cyphermox> nah, you mentioned you're looking at network-manager for systemd
[15:27] <vorlon> rbalint: ah, I got the version number wrong, thanks I was wondering why those were showing up as failures when I thought I'd already hinted
[15:27] <rbalint> ok, so anyone for nodejs?
[15:28] <cyphermox> rbalint: ok, I see. nm fails because systemd is again trying to be real clever.
[15:28]  * vorlon unfolds a newspaper and hides behind it
[15:28] <cyphermox> probably the same failure for netplan, tbh
[15:28] <cyphermox> nodejs, ok
[15:29] <rbalint> cyphermox, i agree that they are trying pack too much smartness in a single project
[15:29] <cyphermox> (that was me saying I'd look at nodejs)
[15:30] <rbalint> cyphermox, thanks!
[15:30] <rbalint> next is file: makedumpfile
[15:31] <rbalint> i take this one
[15:31] <rbalint> because why not :-)
[15:32] <rbalint> i think mwhudson mentioned pinentry
[15:33] <rbalint> i retried the ones for libglib-perl
[15:34] <vorlon> and everything below that is <1 day old not requiring attention now
[15:34] <vorlon> \o/
[15:34] <rbalint> #topic AOB
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[15:35] <vorlon> nothing here
[15:35] <bdmurray> I'm hoping some people could test bug 1835711
[15:35] <ubottu> bug 1835711 in apport (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu-bug collects bug data but does not upload it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835711
[15:36] <bdmurray> I'm trying to get an idea of how many systems have whoopsie disabled
[15:36] <bdmurray> systemctl is-enabled whoopsie
[15:37] <cyphermox> whoopsie is enabled here
[15:38] <sil2100> It's disabled on my system
[15:38] <bdmurray> sil2100: is it active though?
[15:39] <waveform> bdmurray, would you expect to see it on non-desktop systems?
[15:39] <bdmurray> waveform: "see"?
[15:39] <waveform> it's enabled on my oldxenial desktop, not installed on a bionic container, or an eoan pi image I've currently got running
[15:39] <bdmurray> got it thanks
[15:40] <waveform> sorry - by "see" I meant, would you expect it to be installed (given the lack of installation on the two examples mentioned)
[15:40] <bdmurray> no, not really
[15:40] <rbalint> bdmurray, it is active here on newly installed bionic
[15:40] <bdmurray> rbalint: active and enabled?
[15:40] <rbalint> bdmurray, yes
[15:41] <vorlon> it's active here (as previously mentioned), and that's on an Ubuntu install that's seen some stuff
[15:41] <waveform> also enabled on my ancient xenial server (upgraded from ... gawd knows what, probably precise)
[15:41] <bdmurray> alright I don't think working on bug 1835711 too hard is worth it then.
[15:41] <ubottu> bug 1835711 in apport (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu-bug collects bug data but does not upload it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835711
[15:42] <bdmurray> because its not obvious at all why it is disabled on my system.
[15:44] <rbalint> #endmeeting
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[15:44] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug  1 15:44:36 2019 UTC.
[15:44] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-08-01-15.04.moin.txt
[15:44] <vorlon> thanks!
[15:44] <rbalint> o/
[15:45] <cyphermox> thanks!
[15:46] <sil2100> Thanks rbalint o/
[20:01] <diddledan> Hello Hello
[20:04] <bashfulrobot> Heyo
[20:05] <diddledan> anyone else here?
[20:06]  * diddledan prepares the script
[20:11] <bashfulrobot> Nope. Not so far.
[20:12] <diddledan> clobrano: are you around?
[20:12] <bashfulrobot> I think just the two of us. I also forgot to check the wiki to see if anyone was even lined up for a membership interview
[20:18] <bashfulrobot> diddledan: I guess we call it for this time slot?
[20:19] <diddledan> last call for clobrano ..
[20:21] <clobrano> Hi
[20:21] <diddledan> aha
[20:21] <diddledan> heya :-)
[20:21] <clobrano> :)
[20:22] <diddledan> right, let's get going - with the two of us we don't actually have a quorum, but I have a couple of prevotes that will swing us over the line
[20:22] <diddledan> #startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board
[20:22] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug  1 20:22:41 2019 UTC.  The chair is diddledan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[20:22] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
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[20:22] <clobrano> Oh, I see
[20:23] <diddledan> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for August 1st 2019. The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[20:23] <diddledan> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[20:23] <diddledan> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[20:23] <diddledan> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[20:23] <diddledan> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[20:23] <diddledan> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the majority of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[20:23] <diddledan> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[20:24] <diddledan> #topic clobrano
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[20:24] <diddledan> clobrano: if you could introduce yourself and post the link to your wiki page..
[20:24] <clobrano> hey everybody then :)
[20:24] <clobrano> sure, I'm Carlo Lobrano, from Italy
[20:25] <clobrano> more details here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/clobrano
[20:25] <clobrano> I mostly contributed to the themes in the last years, and in Yaru in particular
[20:26] <clobrano> but I also give some little help in other projects, like snapcraft, snappy and some other gnome apps
[20:27] <diddledan> cool :-) I'll pause here a few minutes to let everyone have a chance to read your wiki page
[20:27] <clobrano> alright
[20:28] <diddledan> I see you've got some great testimonials.
[20:28] <diddledan> Is there anyone else here besides the membership board that wants to jump in with some thoughts on clobrano and their application?
[20:28] <clobrano> yes, I really appreciated their words, very kind of them
[20:30] <diddledan> ok, do any board members have questions they'd like to ask clobrano ?
[20:31] <bashfulrobot> (I am here. Just reading up on the wiki)
[20:31] <diddledan> :-)
[20:33] <bashfulrobot> clobrano: I see that your work is predominately with the theming, but you also mentioned that you would like to work on some additional projects closer to your development experience. What did you have in mind there? Which projects interest you?
[20:34] <clobrano> bashfulrobot: I surely like to work more on gnome-shell and mutter on software side, it just took me a bit to configure the environment (jhbuild) for build and testing
[20:35] <clobrano> I also enjoyed a lot the interaction with nautilus and gnome-calendar mantainer, so I will probably go back there too
[20:35] <diddledan> awesome. I've struggled with jhbuild in the past, too..
[20:36] <clobrano> one thing I'd like to work on on theme side is instead the friction we observed lately between upstream and custom themes :)
[20:36] <clobrano> I hope in a win-win solution
[20:38] <bashfulrobot> Yes, easing process and having cross project friction minimized is always a great thing! :-)
[20:38] <clobrano> totally agree!
[20:39] <diddledan> any more questions? I'm happy.
[20:39] <bashfulrobot> It's something many communities could be better at. Haha
[20:39] <bashfulrobot> I'm actually good. Having read through the recommendations and such, seems like a pretty solid addition.
[20:39] <clobrano> :D, well I believe when people are passionate is even normal
[20:39] <clobrano> sometimes :)
[20:39] <diddledan> ok, lets get to the voting then :-)
[20:39] <bashfulrobot> Oh there is absolutely nothing wrong with passion. 👍
[20:39] <bashfulrobot> +1 for me
[20:40] <diddledan> #vote clobrano membership application
[20:40] <meetingology> Please vote on: clobrano membership application
[20:40] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:40] <diddledan> #voters bashfulrobot diddledan
[20:40] <meetingology> Current voters: bashfulrobot diddledan
[20:40] <diddledan> #nick wxl
[20:40] <diddledan> #action wxl votes +1
[20:40] <meetingology> ACTION: wxl votes +1
[20:41] <diddledan> #nick wildmanne39
[20:41] <diddledan> #action wildmanne39 votes +1
[20:41] <meetingology> ACTION: wildmanne39 votes +1
[20:41] <bashfulrobot> +1
[20:41] <meetingology> +1 received from bashfulrobot
[20:41] <diddledan> #nick msdomdonner
[20:41] <diddledan> #action msdomdonner votes +1
[20:41] <meetingology> ACTION: msdomdonner votes +1
[20:41] <wxl> oh hai
[20:41] <wxl> 1s
[20:41] <diddledan> oh, let me add you to the voters
[20:41] <bashfulrobot> Hey wxl
[20:41] <wxl> oh right
[20:41] <wxl> +1
[20:42] <diddledan> #voters bashfulrobot wxl diddledan
[20:42] <meetingology> Current voters: bashfulrobot diddledan wxl
[20:42] <clobrano> hey wxl :)
[20:42] <wxl> oh i guess you did this already huh? XD
[20:42]  * wxl is apparently behind the times hehehe
[20:42] <diddledan> #nick iulian
[20:42] <diddledan> #action iulian votes +1
[20:42] <meetingology> ACTION: iulian votes +1
[20:42] <diddledan> last one :-)
[20:43] <diddledan> #nick fenris
[20:43] <diddledan> #action fenris votes +1
[20:43] <meetingology> ACTION: fenris votes +1
[20:43] <diddledan> +1 from me - excellent work :-)
[20:43] <meetingology> +1 from me - excellent work :-) received from diddledan
[20:43] <clobrano> :)
[20:43] <diddledan> wxl: can you re-+1 - you beat me before I added you to the bot's tracking :-)
[20:43] <bashfulrobot> wxl: yup yup yup. Haha
[20:44] <wxl> +1
[20:44] <meetingology> +1 received from wxl
[20:44] <diddledan> ok.
[20:44] <diddledan> #endvote
[20:44] <meetingology> Voting ended on: clobrano membership application
[20:44] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:44] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:44] <diddledan> congratulations clobrano :-D
[20:44] <wxl> well deserved, for sure
[20:44] <clobrano> horay! thanks everybody :)
[20:44] <diddledan> unanimous decision !
[20:44] <clobrano> :D
[20:44] <bashfulrobot> Congrats clobrano !
[20:45] <clobrano> thanks bashfulrobot
[20:45] <diddledan> with that, I'll end the meeting
[20:45] <diddledan> #endmeeting
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[20:45] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug  1 20:45:06 2019 UTC.
[20:45] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-08-01-20.22.moin.txt
[20:45] <diddledan> thanks everyone :-)
[20:45] <bashfulrobot> Thank you all!
[20:45] <wxl> thanks, ya'll. i'm going back to lurking.
[20:46] <clobrano> thanks again :)
[20:46]  * clobrano removing its name from the next meeting list 
[20:55] <popey_> clobrano: congratulations!
[20:56] <clobrano> Thanks popey_ :)
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