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lordievaderGood morning06:05
mnms_hi guys! Sorry if posted on wrong channel. I would like to ask if there is any intel cpu which is resistant to most vulnerabilities like zombieland spectre etc.. building server hardware... lga1151 socket08:55
mnms_trying to decide which cpu to take08:55
nacclol @ --^13:22
fricklerjamespage: didn't see you in #openstack-dev, so mentioning here: in https://review.opendev.org/674027 as a drive-by I correct the docs link for the charms projects, please verify that the link is correct13:23
Marethyu1211Hello! Just to make sure, is this the place to ask questions about ubuntu server, or is this one of the dev groups?13:52
rbasakMarethyu1211: you can ask user questions here13:54
Marethyu1211Alright, thanks! So, I'm trying to install ubuntu-server as a multi-boot, alongside windows 10. I've shrunk my windows partitions (running BIOS), deleted one so I have space for linux, and now have about 450 gb unallocated. I've got the installer booted off of a flashdrive, but the Filesystem setup step refuses to recognize the existing partitions,13:59
Marethyu1211 even in manual mode13:59
Marethyu1211Is there a particular trick to getting ubuntu-server to only use the unallocated space for its partition?14:00
weedmicMarethyu1211: Are you sure that's the proper goal?  Would it not make more sense to install a linux server, and have whatever windows servers run in virtualbox - then none of the machines ever need be turned off?14:07
Marethyu1211The issue is that I don't have my original installation media for my computer - so getting a VM inside ubuntu-server might be difficult without that, I think. Running it the other way around (the server as a constant VM inside win10) might cause performance issue, as my desktop is pretty old14:13
Marethyu1211If the latter trick (or anything else) might work, I'd love to hear about it!14:13
weedmicI suggest watching a video about clonezilla.   Also, windows (at least here in Israel) will send you replacement media for about 7euros.14:23
tomreynMarethyu1211: the ##windows channel would be a better place to discuss your windows options. Generally, you can 'move' a physical installation into a VM, a process which virtualization softwares often refer to as "P2V" ("physical to virtual"). Usually, the common denominator for 'server' installations is that they don't have a graphical user interface, saving those resources for something more useful, such as speeding up all other14:34
tomreynprocesses, including the virtualization, and reducing the attack surface (increased exposure to attacks by running GUI softwares on a server system).14:34
Marethyu1211Alright, thanks all!14:40
DammitJimdoes ubuntu/Canonical support openjdk 11 on ubuntu 16?15:09
DammitJimI get confused as to what they support15:09
DammitJimI think the only versions available are 8 and 915:09
tomreyn!YY.MM | DammitJim15:17
ubottuDammitJim: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle15:17
DammitJimlts15:24
tomreynDammitJim: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial&keywords=openjdk is what's on offer for "xenial" (16.04 LTS)15:26
tomreynso you can choose between security supported openjdk 8 and community supported openjdk 915:26
DammitJimok, but not 1115:26
tomreyncorrect, ubuntu itself does not provide openjdk 11 builds for 16.04 LTS.15:27
DammitJimty15:28
tomreynmaybe canonical does, you'd need to contact them directly.15:28
tomreynthere are other parties who probably provide openjdk 11 builds for 16.0415:28
DammitJimthanks15:30
tomreynDammitJim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK#OpenJDK_builds might help finding alternatives15:37
friendlyguyhi there! i am trying to update one of my ubuntu vms, but i have a conflict17:03
friendlyguyperl-modules-5.22 conflicts with perl-modules17:03
friendlyguyhow do i resolve that?17:04
sarnoldfriendlyguy: can you pastebin the output? on my systems apt-cache show says both package names are virtual and thus won't tell me anything about them, heh17:19
friendlyguysarnold: sure17:20
friendlyguyhttps://termbin.com/a97c17:21
sarnoldheh, dang, I was hoping it'd have a bit more detail.. alright then..17:25
sarnoldfriendlyguy: try apt-get install -f perl-modules-5.22 perl-modules- perl-modules:i386-17:30
TJ-where'd perl-modules come from though? is it a Provides: of something, or a 3rd party archive?17:31
friendlyguyi have nooo idea17:31
friendlyguyhttps://termbin.com/22cr17:34
friendlyguytomreyn: hey there! are you around by any luck?17:52
sarnoldfriendlyguy: apt-get dist-upgrade perhaps?17:56
friendlyguysarnold: i can try...18:14
friendlyguysarnold: i think that did the trick18:30
sarnoldfriendlyguy: woot! nothing else looks funny? no held back packages, 0 packages to update, etc?18:31
friendlyguynope18:32
friendlyguyall fine18:33
sarnoldcool :) I wish I knew what exactly it was18:40
tomreynfriendlyguy: did i self-promote this script with you, yet? https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages19:33
friendlyguyyes you did :)19:33
tomreynokay, might want to run this there if you haven't19:33
friendlyguyi did19:33
tomreynalso look at apt-mark showhold19:33
friendlyguythat does return nothing19:34
tomreynokay, maybe a conflict introduced by 3rd party repos then19:35
friendlyguytomreyn: i found another vm with the same problem as my webserver had: boot is full and i guess with the same "migration background" :)19:36
tomreynthat was 14.04 -> 16.04 ? i don't rmeember the details.19:36
friendlyguyi think so19:37
friendlyguyits 16.04 currently19:37
tomreyni think the system we were working on the other day was lacking the linux-* 'tracking' / meta apckages19:37
friendlyguyyup, and i "suspect" that machines suffers the same disease19:37
friendlyguydidn`t look more into it yet19:38
friendlyguyits a teamspeak vm i didn`t give any love in a year or so19:38
tomreynnow it's hard to tell whether this is a generic issue with *some* ubuntu 14.04 (or older, if there were previous upgrades) installer not installing these packages or some third party image which may have been used to setup these systems19:39
friendlyguylet me take a look19:39
tomreynand even if it was an issue in 14.04 and older, we can probably not file a bug about it now since those are no longer maintained (except for !ESM)19:39
friendlyguyyes, but... could you possibly help me again if my suspicion confirms?19:40
friendlyguyi`ll of course try to look at the history on the other machine first.19:41
tomreynfriendlyguy: i'm certainly not the only one who can provide those answers around here, but if i'll be around at this point in time, i'll be happy to help. i think those packages are: linux-generic or (if !HWE) linux-generic-lts-$(lsb_release -rs) or linux-virtual (if a VM)19:45
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