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[06:05] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:55] <mnms_> hi guys! Sorry if posted on wrong channel. I would like to ask if there is any intel cpu which is resistant to most vulnerabilities like zombieland spectre etc.. building server hardware... lga1151 socket
[08:55] <mnms_> trying to decide which cpu to take
[13:22] <nacc> lol @ --^
[13:23] <frickler> jamespage: didn't see you in #openstack-dev, so mentioning here: in https://review.opendev.org/674027 as a drive-by I correct the docs link for the charms projects, please verify that the link is correct
[13:52] <Marethyu1211> Hello! Just to make sure, is this the place to ask questions about ubuntu server, or is this one of the dev groups?
[13:54] <rbasak> Marethyu1211: you can ask user questions here
[13:59] <Marethyu1211> Alright, thanks! So, I'm trying to install ubuntu-server as a multi-boot, alongside windows 10. I've shrunk my windows partitions (running BIOS), deleted one so I have space for linux, and now have about 450 gb unallocated. I've got the installer booted off of a flashdrive, but the Filesystem setup step refuses to recognize the existing partitions,
[13:59] <Marethyu1211>  even in manual mode
[14:00] <Marethyu1211> Is there a particular trick to getting ubuntu-server to only use the unallocated space for its partition?
[14:07] <weedmic> Marethyu1211: Are you sure that's the proper goal?  Would it not make more sense to install a linux server, and have whatever windows servers run in virtualbox - then none of the machines ever need be turned off?
[14:13] <Marethyu1211> The issue is that I don't have my original installation media for my computer - so getting a VM inside ubuntu-server might be difficult without that, I think. Running it the other way around (the server as a constant VM inside win10) might cause performance issue, as my desktop is pretty old
[14:13] <Marethyu1211> If the latter trick (or anything else) might work, I'd love to hear about it!
[14:23] <weedmic> I suggest watching a video about clonezilla.   Also, windows (at least here in Israel) will send you replacement media for about 7euros.
[14:34] <tomreyn> Marethyu1211: the ##windows channel would be a better place to discuss your windows options. Generally, you can 'move' a physical installation into a VM, a process which virtualization softwares often refer to as "P2V" ("physical to virtual"). Usually, the common denominator for 'server' installations is that they don't have a graphical user interface, saving those resources for something more useful, such as speeding up all other
[14:34] <tomreyn> processes, including the virtualization, and reducing the attack surface (increased exposure to attacks by running GUI softwares on a server system).
[14:40] <Marethyu1211> Alright, thanks all!
[15:09] <DammitJim> does ubuntu/Canonical support openjdk 11 on ubuntu 16?
[15:09] <DammitJim> I get confused as to what they support
[15:09] <DammitJim> I think the only versions available are 8 and 9
[15:17] <tomreyn> !YY.MM | DammitJim
[15:17] <ubottu> DammitJim: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[15:24] <DammitJim> lts
[15:26] <tomreyn> DammitJim: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial&keywords=openjdk is what's on offer for "xenial" (16.04 LTS)
[15:26] <tomreyn> so you can choose between security supported openjdk 8 and community supported openjdk 9
[15:26] <DammitJim> ok, but not 11
[15:27] <tomreyn> correct, ubuntu itself does not provide openjdk 11 builds for 16.04 LTS.
[15:28] <DammitJim> ty
[15:28] <tomreyn> maybe canonical does, you'd need to contact them directly.
[15:28] <tomreyn> there are other parties who probably provide openjdk 11 builds for 16.04
[15:30] <DammitJim> thanks
[15:37] <tomreyn> DammitJim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK#OpenJDK_builds might help finding alternatives
[17:03] <friendlyguy> hi there! i am trying to update one of my ubuntu vms, but i have a conflict
[17:03] <friendlyguy> perl-modules-5.22 conflicts with perl-modules
[17:04] <friendlyguy> how do i resolve that?
[17:19] <sarnold> friendlyguy: can you pastebin the output? on my systems apt-cache show says both package names are virtual and thus won't tell me anything about them, heh
[17:20] <friendlyguy> sarnold: sure
[17:21] <friendlyguy> https://termbin.com/a97c
[17:25] <sarnold> heh, dang, I was hoping it'd have a bit more detail.. alright then..
[17:30] <sarnold> friendlyguy: try apt-get install -f perl-modules-5.22 perl-modules- perl-modules:i386-
[17:31] <TJ-> where'd perl-modules come from though? is it a Provides: of something, or a 3rd party archive?
[17:31] <friendlyguy> i have nooo idea
[17:34] <friendlyguy> https://termbin.com/22cr
[17:52] <friendlyguy> tomreyn: hey there! are you around by any luck?
[17:56] <sarnold> friendlyguy: apt-get dist-upgrade perhaps?
[18:14] <friendlyguy> sarnold: i can try...
[18:30] <friendlyguy> sarnold: i think that did the trick
[18:31] <sarnold> friendlyguy: woot! nothing else looks funny? no held back packages, 0 packages to update, etc?
[18:32] <friendlyguy> nope
[18:33] <friendlyguy> all fine
[18:40] <sarnold> cool :) I wish I knew what exactly it was
[19:33] <tomreyn> friendlyguy: did i self-promote this script with you, yet? https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages
[19:33] <friendlyguy> yes you did :)
[19:33] <tomreyn> okay, might want to run this there if you haven't
[19:33] <friendlyguy> i did
[19:33] <tomreyn> also look at apt-mark showhold
[19:34] <friendlyguy> that does return nothing
[19:35] <tomreyn> okay, maybe a conflict introduced by 3rd party repos then
[19:36] <friendlyguy> tomreyn: i found another vm with the same problem as my webserver had: boot is full and i guess with the same "migration background" :)
[19:36] <tomreyn> that was 14.04 -> 16.04 ? i don't rmeember the details.
[19:37] <friendlyguy> i think so
[19:37] <friendlyguy> its 16.04 currently
[19:37] <tomreyn> i think the system we were working on the other day was lacking the linux-* 'tracking' / meta apckages
[19:37] <friendlyguy> yup, and i "suspect" that machines suffers the same disease
[19:38] <friendlyguy> didn`t look more into it yet
[19:38] <friendlyguy> its a teamspeak vm i didn`t give any love in a year or so
[19:39] <tomreyn> now it's hard to tell whether this is a generic issue with *some* ubuntu 14.04 (or older, if there were previous upgrades) installer not installing these packages or some third party image which may have been used to setup these systems
[19:39] <friendlyguy> let me take a look
[19:39] <tomreyn> and even if it was an issue in 14.04 and older, we can probably not file a bug about it now since those are no longer maintained (except for !ESM)
[19:40] <friendlyguy> yes, but... could you possibly help me again if my suspicion confirms?
[19:41] <friendlyguy> i`ll of course try to look at the history on the other machine first.
[19:45] <tomreyn> friendlyguy: i'm certainly not the only one who can provide those answers around here, but if i'll be around at this point in time, i'll be happy to help. i think those packages are: linux-generic or (if !HWE) linux-generic-lts-$(lsb_release -rs) or linux-virtual (if a VM)
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